Gambling Federation joins iGGBA

[Kitty_23]

iGGBA is delighted to announce that Gambling Federation has joined its ranks and become the most recent of 50 members.

iGGBA believes that by supporting a broad and diverse membership base, reaching from content developers over testing companies and law firms to operators, every necessary aspect can be considered in the interplay between the different parties. This premise has proven especially helpful in iGGBAs latest efforts liaising between industry and government to further the developments of the UK Draft Gambling Bill.

Flaviano Fogli, CEO of Gambling Federation, comments the membership: We are delighted to join the iGGBA, an organization dedicated to improve the gaming industry. We look forward in working together to ensure that the industry achieves its true potential.

About iGGBA interactive Gaming, Gambling and Betting Association
iGGBA is the primary industry body in the EU representing companies involved in the operation or provision of interactive platforms for gaming, gambling and betting. With 50 members, the Association aims to work with the Government and regulators in formulating fair and proper regulation, upholding the probity and trustworthiness of the industry, and supporting standards of appropriate social responsibility. For further information, please contact the iGGBA secretariat at +44 (0) 20-7620-2770 or via email at [email protected].

Contact
Talia Paschini
Email: [email protected]
Public Relations Manager
www.gamblingfederation.com

 

[BrettS]

GF ok?

Is this company ok and can their casinos be trusted?

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[caruso]

GAMBLING FEDERATION ARE CHEATS.

I have the evidence of a blackjack session of about 900 hands with an overall loss amounting to FIVE STANDARD DEVIATIONS. Aside from the Casino Bar experiment (6.83 SDs), this is the most statistically improbable occurance that I have ever seen documented in my nearly four years of play.

I have the proof. Any GF rep wanting to call my bluff - go right ahead. You won't like it one bit.

Patronize Gambling Federation at your own risk. They can cheat and do cheat.

 

[The Dude]

Not to stir the shit in my own forum, I'm wondering if there has ever been a reported RF in their video poker. I know this was an issue a while back, and I don't think any player has come forward stating they had one. Please correct me if I am wrong...

 

[Kitty_23]

Thank you for your question Bryan,

We have regular RFs in our software as in any other gaming software. Please bear in mind that we are an international company serving 15 different languages. The English market is only a small portion of our business. We do have a lot of RF winners, evenly dispersed throughout the other languages including English.

This might explain why the RF might seem a rare accuracy but in fact its not.
Cheers,
Talia

 

[The Dude]

Hi Talia,

Thanks for the explanation. I've just never heard from a player who has received one, nor have I seen a screenshot of one either. I'm not saying they aren't happening, it's just that the players who receive RFs aren't spreading the word. If anyone has a screenshot of a GF Natural Royal Flush, please post it. Thanks!

 

[Dirk Diggler]

Here's a screenshot of one

 

[padanian]

mmmhhhh.....

iGGBA is delighted to announce that Gambling Federation has joined its ranks and become the most recent of 50 members.

iGGBA believes that by supporting a broad and diverse membership base, reaching from content developers over testing companies and law firms to operators, every necessary aspect can be considered in the interplay between the different parties. This premise has proven especially helpful in iGGBAs latest efforts liaising between industry and government to further the developments of the UK Draft Gambling Bill.

Flaviano Fogli, CEO of Gambling Federation, comments the membership: We are delighted to join the iGGBA, an organization dedicated to improve the gaming industry. We look forward in working together to ensure that the industry achieves its true potential.

About iGGBA interactive Gaming, Gambling and Betting Association
iGGBA is the primary industry body in the EU representing companies involved in the operation or provision of interactive platforms for gaming, gambling and betting. With 50 members, the Association aims to work with the Government and regulators in formulating fair and proper regulation, upholding the probity and trustworthiness of the industry, and supporting standards of appropriate social responsibility. For further information, please contact the iGGBA secretariat at +44 (0) 20-7620-2770 or via email at [email protected].

Contact
Talia Paschini
Email: [email protected]
Public Relations Manager
www.gamblingfederation.com

.......too many Italian names to be something serious....

 

[Petunia]

** Seeing is believing. I have now seen Pigs fly.... How about a screen shot? **

 

[The Dude]

.......too many Italian names to be something serious....

I've met Flaviano Fogli a number of time; I don't think he's Italian...

...but I'm a screwhead. Of course he's Italian.

 

[Kitty_23]

Hi Bryan,

As requested, please find attached the last RF's we have registered in our database. (3 screenshots)

Cheers,
Talia

 

[padanian]

I've met Flaviano Fogli a number of time; I don't think he's Italian...

Name and surname are definitely Italian. And Fogli is a very common family name of the area where I come from. Maybe they could be from Ticino in Switzerland.
From what I can see the web sites promoting Gambling Federation casinos in my language are just shameful (I think there was an old thread with some interesting posts from Caruso and Dominique). It's a pity that those sites represent the only info available to Italian speaking players. I'm just sorry not to have enough time to provide some alternatives...
Of course I can make bad jokes on Italians, being an Italian myself. But it is worth to remember that in Italy also the state run Casino' di Venezia was rigging its slots...

 

[caruso]

Maybe an Italian forum at Casinomeister - there's a German one, and clearly there are Italian gamblers out there who'd benefit.

Just a thought.

I'm wondering whether or not the iGGBA would be interested in evidence that their newest client almost certainly cheats at blackjack. I'll send them an email - can't do any harm.

 

[amandajm]

This Firm have some

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I think your email Caruso should be information they seek, not have pushed upon them after they ignored your words in this thread.

 

[caruso]

That is sickening. Entry no. 44: British Telecom. Entry no. 49: Gambling Federation.

I give up.

What is the screening process? Pay up and your in?

Haven't contacted them yet, but will do so this week, and will post feedback.

 

[padanian]

Hi Bryan,

As requested, please find attached the last RF's we have registered in our database. (3 screenshots)

Cheers,
Talia

It would be nicer to have players sending their screenshots...

 

[Petunia]

** Kitty, where did these come from if I may ask? You cannot blame one for being just a leeeeeeetle sceptical BUT thanks anyway!! **

 

[Kitty_23]

Hi Petunia,

Here is the data you requested :
The casino is www.videopokerclassic.com, currency is USD.
Image Name >royalflush1.gif> Country: United States > Win Date:08-MAY-04
Image Name >royalflush2.gif> Country: France > Win Date:08-MAY-04
Image Name >royalflush3.gif> Country: United Kingdom> Win Date:11-MAY-04

Cheers,
Talia

 

[cipher]

Hi Petunia,

Here is the data you requested :
The casino is www.videopokerclassic.com, currency is USD.
Image Name >royalflush1.gif> Country: United States > Win Date:08-MAY-04
Image Name >royalflush2.gif> Country: France > Win Date:08-MAY-04
Image Name >royalflush3.gif> Country: United Kingdom> Win Date:11-MAY-04

Cheers,
Talia

Kitty:

I'd much rather hear something from you in defense of the comments made here by Caruso.

"I have the evidence of a blackjack session of about 900 hands with an overall loss amounting to FIVE STANDARD DEVIATIONS. Aside from the Casino Bar experiment (6.83 SDs), this is the most statistically improbable occurance that I have ever seen documented in my nearly four years of play.

I have the proof. Any GF rep wanting to call my bluff - go right ahead. You won't like it one bit.

Patronize Gambling Federation at your own risk. They can cheat and do cheat." Have a good one.

 

[sw2003]

Hi Bryan,

As requested, please find attached the last RF's we have registered in our database. (3 screenshots)

Cheers,
Talia

There are no dates, time, players' user id (ok may be you should not reveal that). But the screenshots meant nothing, it could be the programmers having a tests run and took the screenshots! It could be done in fun mode! Or these could have been hit 5 years ago! Or they could be generated by means other than in actual play! They don't carry a lot of weight as far as proving that people do hit RF in your casino. Sorry, you need to do better than this!

If you were a defense lawyer, you would be teared to shreds by the other side.

 

[ftg]

Hi Bryan,

As requested, please find attached the last RF's we have registered in our database. (3 screenshots)

Cheers,
Talia

Which one do you mean:

1. Your player(s) sent you the screenshots for those RFs?

2. You can generate the screenshots for those RFs from your database?

In either case, it's not convicing at all:

1. I won't send screenshots to casino except to solve some technical problem.

2. You can generate whatever you like.

 

[The Dude]

If you were a defense lawyer, you would be teared to shreds by the other side.

That's "torn".

 

[Petunia]

** Kitty, thanks for that information. I have a problem phrasing my questions and comments right this week. Like SW says, I wanted to know if this was from players, and if you said yes, my next question was going to be directed the same way SW had. And yes, I would also like to hear your thoughts on the black jack accusations. Then again... maybe I don't. **

 

[caruso]

I posted about this at WOL last year. Note the comments from recognized blackjack authority Ken Smith: "very disturbing data" and "...this one in 202,463 event is very bad indeed." - those found on page 6.

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[Clayman]

Hi Caruso

I was just wondering if you flat-bet every single hand - can't find if you ever explicitly said so.

 

[caruso]

Yup, $10 flat bets on this occasion.

 

[Clayman]

Yup, $10 flat bets on this occasion.

Glad to hear it. I never would have picked you for a flat-better for 600+ hands.

Even I have trouble doing that, especially when I'm losing.

You're the MAN! :notworthy

 

[Kitty_23]

On Carusos Topic:
As the PR Manager, one of my tasks is to inform the public on new things or events running at Gambling Federation. If, along the way, I can also accidentally help players, thats great. However, it is not my main purpose here and any grievances or problems of such a nature as Caruso has brought up, should be addressed through the proper channels.

With this said, if Caruso wishes to file complaints with us or with any other organization that we are affiliated or a member of, is of course his choice. We have previously provided detailed logs and explanations to Caruso, and have tried to resolve his issues with us to the best of our abilities without Caruso being satisfied with the result. If you (Caruso) would like to again address the situation with us, our door is as open as it has been before.

Id like to remind everyone that I am available to answer questions, should there be questions I am able to handle, but the best avenue is and will always be to bring it up with our Support department or any Manager that Support might direct your inquiry to.

On Royal Flush Topic:
Our Technical department, when mining the databases for the requested information on Royal Flushes, also provided a number of screenshots built up from actual player data from the Game Servers / Databases. The query that was asked of our technical department did not specify that the screenshots were to be the very latest, therefore the ones that were provided were from the dates listed previously.

These screenshots accurately describe the end result status of a wager made in the software, from the amount in the players bankroll at that moment, his result on his wager to his GFED Points at that time. They are built up from result data stored from real players game details.

To state any more information than we have already done in regards to the Royal Flushes, would in part break the Privacy Policies that we have in place. While the screenshots themselves are not containing any identifiable information, without prior approval, we can not provide more.

Regarding player testimonials about hitting Royal Flushes; we do not think we need to provide more details in this than what has currently been posted. If the Meister would like more details to verify the validity of data we have provided, that could possibly be arranged, but more data about the Royal Flushes will not be given.

In closing, I would like to remind everyone that if you wish to refuse the validity of the press releases we are currently posting, we can not really stop you. However, if you simply have doubts, you can ask me directly for more details which i will be happy to provide.

Until next Press Release - Best Regards,
Talia Paschini

 

[caruso]

We have previously provided detailed logs and explanations to Caruso, and have tried to resolve his issues with us to the best of our abilities without Caruso being satisfied with the result. If you (Caruso) would like to again address the situation with us, our door is as open as it has been before.

???

I have no idea what you're talking about.

1) I requested the logs.

2) They were sent ("detailed explanation"? What's that about? All I got was the logs and a "here are your logs" note from the CSR who sent them).

That's it. There was no other communication - I requested none, and none was offered. There was no official "dispute". Nobody tried to "resolve" anything because there was nothing to resolve. I played, requested my logs and posted the results on the forums. That's all there ever was to it. That's all there CAN be - we are not talking about payment disputes, we're talking about rigged games. How do you "dispute" such a matter? All I could say is "they cheat". Not much room for a dispute there.

That you tried to "resolve" any "issue" to my eventual dissatisfaction is an absolute myth. The only communication between myself and GF was my requesting the logs and GF sending them.

 

[caruso]

Yiiiiiiiii, the iGGBA have a booth at the ICE next month.

I know what's high on my Stalk 'n Slash list.