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hogexd

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Just a point of note in winz's own terms;

'To participate you need to be registered at the CasinoMeister forum and have an account at Winz.io'

So ....hogexd was permitted to participate when he wasn't a member going by his screenshot dates!
gotta chime back in to correct you on this, I’d like to point out once more that in the OP, it doesn’t say anything about ”only screenshots taken after registration are valid.” Or anything along those terms. Like I said, absolutely no wrongdoing on my part. I started collecting them prior, registered, submitted them in a bulk and they were literally verified by the Casino themselves.

What exactly is still the issue here?
 
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gotta chime back in to correct you on this, I’d like to point out once more that in the OP, it doesn’t say anything about ”only screenshots taken after registration are valid.” Or anything along those terms. Like I said, absolutely no wrongdoing on my part. I started collecting them prior, registered, submitted them in a bulk and they were literally verified by the Casino themselves.

What exactly is still the issue here?
You.
 

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Hello everyone!

First of all huge thanks to everyone who has participated in this contest and shared their winnings.

We will start verifying recent screenshots now, so the last leaderboard update will come soon.

Regarding that "issue" with @hogexd - as we see he has not violated any rules, so I don't see any reason not to count any of his screenshots. We also agree that there were some gaps in terms and there should be added more rules like "posting screenshots in 48-72 hours" as someone earlier advised, so everyone else could see their real positions and chances. Waiting for the last few days to post all the screenshots maybe is not really a fair and friendly move, but we need to admit that it is quite strategic.

Would like to remind you that this was the first testing screenshot contest that we have made with the CasinoMeister community, so we can see where to move and how to improve to make upcoming promotions fairer and more interesting to participate in.

So if you will have any more ideas on how to improve, then feel free to share your thoughts.
 

Kroffe

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'Your screenshots must show the game, bet size, and winnings. You also need to leave your Winz.io nickname, as each screenshot needs to be verified by the casino.'

That combined with the 'To participate you need to be registered at the CasinoMeister forum and have an account at Winz.io'

So screenshots not following the rules from wins obtained before the player was even able to participate in the comp?
I guess you could argue that those replay screenshots show the game because of the GAME ID, but posting the ID was clearly not what the rule was intended to mean, because you know then it would have said 'Post game id'

The whole 'technically it doesnt say its not allowed to do this' is just bs imo.
The comp has no start date, are wins from last year ok? Maybe my grandpa still have documents showing his wins from the 50s.
Is cheating allowed? See no rules against it so must be allowed i guess

Its more like 'Everyone understands the rules thanks to common sense, but because they are a bit vague im going to interpret them different than intended'
Seeing as Winz have already verified the wins i dont see them changing their mind, but imo you have to take on a very loose interpretation of the rules to allow the wins to count for the comp.

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hogexd

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Hello everyone!

First of all huge thanks to everyone who has participated in this contest and shared their winnings.

We will start verifying recent screenshots now, so the last leaderboard update will come soon.

Regarding that "issue" with @hogexd - as we see he has not violated any rules, so I don't see any reason not to count any of his screenshots. We also agree that there were some gaps in terms and there should be added more rules like "posting screenshots in 48-72 hours" as someone earlier advised, so everyone else could see their real positions and chances. Waiting for the last few days to post all the screenshots maybe is not really a fair and friendly move, but we need to admit that it is quite strategic.

Would like to remind you that this was the first testing screenshot contest that we have made with the CasinoMeister community, so we can see where to move and how to improve to make upcoming promotions fairer and more interesting to participate in.

So if you will have any more ideas on how to improve, then feel free to share your thoughts.

I can suggest the following for any screenshot -type competitions in the future:
  1. Screenshots must be posted no later than 24hrs after the win was achieved
  2. Any and all specific rules or guidelines regarding the screenshots, their type, date etc must be very clear so that everyone understands exactly what the rules are, and nobody will start arguing afterwards.
I appreciate the confirmation, thanks
 

dunover

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Hello everyone!

First of all huge thanks to everyone who has participated in this contest and shared their winnings.

We will start verifying recent screenshots now, so the last leaderboard update will come soon.

Regarding that "issue" with @hogexd - as we see he has not violated any rules, so I don't see any reason not to count any of his screenshots. We also agree that there were some gaps in terms and there should be added more rules like "posting screenshots in 48-72 hours" as someone earlier advised, so everyone else could see their real positions and chances. Waiting for the last few days to post all the screenshots maybe is not really a fair and friendly move, but we need to admit that it is quite strategic.

Would like to remind you that this was the first testing screenshot contest that we have made with the CasinoMeister community, so we can see where to move and how to improve to make upcoming promotions fairer and more interesting to participate in.

So if you will have any more ideas on how to improve, then feel free to share your thoughts.
Yes, there are more holes in the rules than in Fred West's back garden.

It's not the first time this has happened, as sometimes for what seems like a simple competition the rules need to be exhaustive otherwise any weakness will be spotted and exploited.

The SPIRIT of this comp is clearly meant to be for those players who were CM members at the time of commencement and screenshots beginning then as well.

Unfortunately this was not comprehensively specified thus people have taken advantage of the loophole. As I've already said, this isn't fhe first time it's happened and invariably leads to complaints, suspicion and arguments.

At the end of the day, the rep's decision counts here even if they're stuck between the devil and the deep blue sea as they say.

I suppose it's like having a sample stall at a market promoting a new canned drink and asking people to help themselves - most will just take one, but someone will always walk off with several because it doesn't say you can't. That's life.
 

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Hello everyone!

First of all huge thanks to everyone who has participated in this contest and shared their winnings.

We will start verifying recent screenshots now, so the last leaderboard update will come soon.

Regarding that "issue" with @hogexd - as we see he has not violated any rules, so I don't see any reason not to count any of his screenshots. We also agree that there were some gaps in terms and there should be added more rules like "posting screenshots in 48-72 hours" as someone earlier advised, so everyone else could see their real positions and chances. Waiting for the last few days to post all the screenshots maybe is not really a fair and friendly move, but we need to admit that it is quite strategic.

Would like to remind you that this was the first testing screenshot contest that we have made with the CasinoMeister community, so we can see where to move and how to improve to make upcoming promotions fairer and more interesting to participate in.

So if you will have any more ideas on how to improve, then feel free to share your thoughts.
Sorry but he wasn't even a member when some of those screenshots were taken 'To participate you need to be registered at the CasinoMeister forum and have an account at Winz.io'! If he wasn't even registered when some of those screenshots were submitted, what was the point of the rule?

It doesn't affect me and some people might think 'butt out then' but as an advocate to fairness with no personal interest in the outcome, I am totally bemused!!

Over and out!
 

chiya

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Others basically summed up exactly how I feel about this whole situation. Wins from before he was a member literally should not be counted as that's what the rules say.

If you let this guy get away with exploiting the rules you're just encouraging further exploitation by him and others in future comps. As long as the rules aren't extensive to block out any and all possible ways to cheat, someone is gonna come in and do it.

The fact you're still defending your position even after all this just tells a lot about you as a person. Despicable..

@Winz.io casino You really need to consider carefully what your rules actually say and if you're gonna let this go. You're doing a long time standing member dirty by letting a cheater win.
 

Kroffe

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I suppose it's like having a sample stall at a market promoting a new canned drink and asking people to help themselves - most will just take one, but someone will always walk off with several because it doesn't say you can't. That's life.
I always put in some effort to aovid the embarrassment, if they dont know im taking more than one sample nobody will think less of me for doing it.

'Can i have another one sample please and thank you'

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Wait!What?

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I would not interpret the current absense of the Winz Casino Rep as an escape.

However i think twice about to participate in another contest with this casino.
I was just lighting up the mood.
Hope next time we have a less controversial ending. Contests like this are good for members. We get a chance to win something extra. The contest was great in its inception and hope the casino comes back.
 

alcatraz

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I was just lighting up the mood.
Hope next time we have a less controversial ending. Contests like this are good for members. We get a chance to win something extra. The contest was great in its inception and hope the casino comes back.

I think that Winz is not a bad casino at all. At least you wont get bs bonuses like to most others. What bothers me in this case is the handling of the current situation which i find very unfortunate.
 

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Hey everybody, just a little patience - our rep is justifiably absent today, but will give his best to update the leaderboard and the contest winners asap :)
 

chiya

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I figured a shitstorm would brew if I posted about this, so I was afraid to do so earlier. I wanted to post before the competition ended but I kept going back and forth with the idea. In the end however, it didn't sit well with me and if I was Viking I'd be really mad about it. He's just too good of a guy to post anything himself so ah, here we are.

I'm not worried about absence of Winz, I'm sure they'll come back to update us whenever they can. And as for the casino themselves, I'm a fan in general. *A lot* of games and instant withdrawals, and the weekly friday wager-free promos are very nice. Just the way they handled this comp, especially after the complaints, leaves something to be desired.
 

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'Your screenshots must show the game, bet size, and winnings. You also need to leave your Winz.io nickname, as each screenshot needs to be verified by the casino.'

That combined with the 'To participate you need to be registered at the CasinoMeister forum and have an account at Winz.io'

So screenshots not following the rules from wins obtained before the player was even able to participate in the comp?
I guess you could argue that those replay screenshots show the game because of the GAME ID, but posting the ID was clearly not what the rule was intended to mean, because you know then it would have said 'Post game id'

The whole 'technically it doesnt say its not allowed to do this' is just bs imo.
The comp has no start date, are wins from last year ok? Maybe my grandpa still have documents showing his wins from the 50s.
Is cheating allowed? See no rules against it so must be allowed i guess

Its more like 'Everyone understands the rules thanks to common sense, but because they are a bit vague im going to interpret them different than intended'
Seeing as Winz have already verified the wins i dont see them changing their mind, but imo you have to take on a very loose interpretation of the rules to allow the wins to count for the comp.

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Hey,

Your screenshots must show the game, bet size, and winnings.
- this rule was made only to avoid players posting something like "oh, I didn't make any screen, but there was a big win in some game from Pragmatic, not sure what the name it had as I am playing many different slots, and the winnings were something like x1,400 or maybe less".

This specific rule requires the player to make a screenshot that shows his winnings and there was no requirement to make it during the game session or after through history. As we thought that there could be some problems, like the player was really happy with his winnings and forgot to make a screenshot, or something went wrong where the player misclicked and accidentally started new spin, etc. Our main goal was to make this contest more interesting and it should not disturb somehow from a gaming session.

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That combined with the 'To participate you need to be registered at the CasinoMeister forum and have an account at Winz.io'
- here the main goal was to motivate players to join CasinoMeister community and post only screenshots from Winz.io Casino, as we have checked some other similar contests on other websites and there were players who have published some random casino screens that should never get verified.

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If I am not mistaken then during the contest nobody complained about these terms and we have also not realized that such strategies could be used, but we will definitely review this when preparing terms for any new contest or promotion.
 

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Final update of the leaderboard:
1 - hogexd - PlayStation 5 (or 500 EUR) - x10076
2 - TheViking - 250 EUR (+250 EUR) - x7879
3 - chiya - 150 EUR - x4000
4 - alcatraz - 100 EUR - x3436
5 - bowki - 50 EUR - x547
6 - hhhelllo - 500 FS - x511
7 - Wait!What? - 400 FS - x437

The list of usernames will be sent now to our support, who will credit rewards ASAP!

Update: As many of you have suggested we have decided to reward TheViking for his loyalty and fantastic activity, so he will also get the equivalent of the first prize, but in cash money. This decision is final and it will not affect anyhow any other players who have participated!
 
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Kroffe

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Hey,

Your screenshots must show the game, bet size, and winnings.
- this rule was made only to avoid players posting something like "oh, I didn't make any screen, but there was a big win in some game from Pragmatic, not sure what the name it had as I am playing many different slots, and the winnings were something like x1,400 or maybe less".

This specific rule requires the player to make a screenshot that shows his winnings and there was no requirement to make it during the game session or after through history. As we thought that there could be some problems, like the player was really happy with his winnings and forgot to make a screenshot, or something went wrong where the player misclicked and accidentally started new spin, etc. Our main goal was to make this contest more interesting and it should not disturb somehow from a gaming session.

__

That combined with the 'To participate you need to be registered at the CasinoMeister forum and have an account at Winz.io'
- here the main goal was to motivate players to join CasinoMeister community and post only screenshots from Winz.io Casino, as we have checked some other similar contests on other websites and there were players who have published some random casino screens that should never get verified.

__

If I am not mistaken then during the contest nobody complained about these terms and we have also not realized that such strategies could be used, but we will definitely review this when preparing terms for any new contest or promotion.
I thought it just was someone that had hoarded screenshots, which is a valid tactic imo.
Posting wins when you get them just shows everyone else what they need to beat.

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It is more fun if people post them tho, so something like already mentioned about posting within 24h/same day is a good rule to encourage participation in the thread.
I still think its a bit iffy allowing screenshots from before a player was registered for the comp, swooping in at the last minute and posting a bunch of wins gives you an advantage over the players registered from day 1 because they didnt even know you existed.

Not really my place to complain i guess, if the people taking part are happy im happy.
Was a good comp, also cool goodwill gesture to Mr. Viking.
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Well well that sure was intresting to follow 😉
Firstly congrats to all the winners 🙂
As regular members know im pretty easy going and dont complain a lot or argue and just play by the rules, perhaps thats why i havent had to PAB since i began to play 18 years ago 😀
I really dont wanna go into whats right and wrong with this Comp, but for any feature Comps i suggest a much clearer Terms 👍
But i know i enjoyed it especially the first 10 days 😉
Anyway thanks for the cash 👍
I have already withdrew 450 to Neteller got paid within min and withdrew to bank account
Got 2 grown up boys and they knew about this comp so might put into a new PS5 they cost €720 up here 😮
Again congrats all and have a smashing day 😀
P.S still think @Winz.io casino is one of the best around with the fast cashout, promos and support.
 
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