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Evolution Live Roulette - the most awesome thread of conspiracy theorists

Devontheman said:
Omfg every roulette is rigged even landbased just give up playing...
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I know of at least 2 people that do ok from roulette and one syndicate that I know of that made in excess of 400k last year, how is this possible if its all rigged? ( to my last knowledge they play on evo tables )

Surely its about how you bet? Methods, bankroll, discipline and of course a little luck, but compared to slots a 2.7% house edge isnt impossible to overcome? UK B&M based are even better with the outside bets being only 1.35% edge.


Most people that moan about it being rigged talk about the 50/50 bets which are the hardest to consistently win on or the ones that only leave a half dozen numbers not covered which is a major risk vs reward issue mostly.

Its surely a case of more that people are not catering for standard deviations and not sticking around for as many spins as they need to. ???

Most systems people talk about fail mainly due to they aren't adaptive.
 
Reelsoffun said:
I know of at least 2 people that do ok from roulette and one syndicate that I know of that made in excess of 400k last year, how is this possible if its all rigged? ( to my last knowledge they play on evo tables )

Surely its about how you bet? Methods, bankroll, discipline and of course a little luck, but compared to slots a 2.7% house edge isnt impossible to overcome? UK B&M based are even better with the outside bets being only 1.35% edge.


Most people that moan about it being rigged talk about the 50/50 bets which are the hardest to consistently win on or the ones that only leave a half dozen numbers not covered which is a major risk vs reward issue mostly.

Its surely a case of more that people are not catering for standard deviations and not sticking around for as many spins as they need to. ???

Most systems people talk about fail mainly due to they aren't adaptive.
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Ive played roulette for about 15 years, ive tried everything. Yes you win some and lose some, thats gambling.. but i just cant recall ever winning 10/15 spins in a row on colours, in comparision to losing such amount of spins on colours. Chances are if i keep betting black that max i'd get is 4 or 5 come in, ive never had 14 wins in a row on a single colour or section of the table (voisins being my main section to bet on)
And yes i also bet on 2 x dozens, its really remarkable the amount of time the other doesnt comes in like you say.
 
bradztheman said:
Ive played roulette for about 15 years, ive tried everything. Yes you win some and lose some, thats gambling.. but i just cant recall ever winning 10/15 spins in a row on colours, in comparision to losing such amount of spins on colours. Chances are if i keep betting black that max i'd get is 4 or 5 come in, ive never had 14 wins in a row on a single colour or section of the table (voisins being my main section to bet on)
And yes i also bet on 2 x dozens, its really remarkable the amount of time the other doesnt comes in like you say.
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Surely thats because 10+ in a row is only gonna happen so rarely in comparison.

Personally IMO this is where your going wrong, a good, disciplined roulette player isnt trying to win 10/15 spins in a row or even every spin, you can lose 200 spins on a session and still be up whether you have won only 50 spins or 201 spins in that session its all about the betting, which is the only real defense you have against the house edge.

Like all roulette players I have tried a zillion methods, some good, some bad, and some just plain ugly! But ( and im sure i will get shot down in flames here ) im a firm believer that roulette can be beaten on a honest game, due to having encountered people in the past that have proved it over many months and many thousands of spins.

However its not easy, its very much a game of patience if anything and unless your using a size able bankroll with strict play, your not gonna make your millions lol

Like all gambling it should really be just seen as entertainment with a chance to win a few £££
 
Reelsoffun said:
Surely thats because 10+ in a row is only gonna happen so rarely in comparison.

Personally IMO this is where your going wrong, a good, disciplined roulette player isnt trying to win 10/15 spins in a row or even every spin, you can lose 200 spins on a session and still be up whether you have won only 50 spins or 201 spins in that session its all about the betting, which is the only real defense you have against the house edge.

Like all roulette players I have tried a zillion methods, some good, some bad, and some just plain ugly! But ( and im sure i will get shot down in flames here ) im a firm believer that roulette can be beaten on a honest game, due to having encountered people in the past that have proved it over many months and many thousands of spins.

However its not easy, its very much a game of patience if anything and unless your using a size able bankroll with strict play, your not gonna make your millions lol

Like all gambling it should really be just seen as entertainment with a chance to win a few £££
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Exactly. There is no winning method or system
 
Reelsoffun said:
Surely thats because 10+ in a row is only gonna happen so rarely in comparison.

Personally IMO this is where your going wrong, a good, disciplined roulette player isnt trying to win 10/15 spins in a row or even every spin, you can lose 200 spins on a session and still be up whether you have won only 50 spins or 201 spins in that session its all about the betting, which is the only real defense you have against the house edge.

Like all roulette players I have tried a zillion methods, some good, some bad, and some just plain ugly! But ( and im sure i will get shot down in flames here ) im a firm believer that roulette can be beaten on a honest game, due to having encountered people in the past that have proved it over many months and many thousands of spins.

However its not easy, its very much a game of patience if anything and unless your using a size able bankroll with strict play, your not gonna make your millions lol

Like all gambling it should really be just seen as entertainment with a chance to win a few £££
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I dont aim to make millions, just a few hundred or couple hundred at a time, and i cant even do that with a £200 or £500 deposit most of the time.
 
Reelsoffun said:
one syndicate that I know of that made in excess of 400k last year, how is this possible if its all rigged? ( to my last knowledge they play on evo tables )
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i wonder if that's some sort of bonus abuse over multiple accounts that manage to get a good deal somewhere and use it over and over. sounds a lot to make over 1 year, so must be some kind of consistancy or insane luck going on there.
Anyway, we should catch up for a drink. bring your m8s of course.. :thumbsup:
 
Devontheman said:
In future play immersive that’s as fair as u can get
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Ive just logged into my williamhill account and had a look at immersive roulette, have to say it looks alot better than the playtech tables, the ball moves alot more freely and they even show you an action replay straight after!!
Going to do my best to stay away from roulette for a while though and just stick to football and sports bets i think
 
I'd also say that if i were to play roulette again i would definately use supercasino, they are a uk landbased casino. With supercasino i never experienced the things i have with playtech. I used to do £1000 spins on supercasino and it was fair. They are uk based, just shows..
 
It’s like hippodrome casino it s just rigged that’s why I stop going Leicester Square hippodrome land based they always made it avoid my numbers so I know how you feel
 
bradztheman said:
Just came across a table called 'grand roulette' on william hill. Not sure what country its based in but it shows real people betting at the table too!!
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Grand Roulette is streamed from the Grand Casino in Bucharest, Romania. It's one of many live streamed tables that Evolution and Authentic Gaming offer.

I've kept a
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of all the casinos offering such tables. It's pretty much up to date.
 
neilw said:
Grand Roulette is streamed from the Grand Casino in Bucharest, Romania. It's one of many live streamed tables that Evolution and Authentic Gaming offer.

I've kept a
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of all the casinos offering such tables. It's pretty much up to date.
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What about aspers neil ????
 
adamtheaddict said:
i wonder if that's some sort of bonus abuse over multiple accounts that manage to get a good deal somewhere and use it over and over. sounds a lot to make over 1 year, so must be some kind of consistancy or insane luck going on there.
Anyway, we should catch up for a drink. bring your m8s of course.. :thumbsup:
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In the good old days they took a fair chunk of bonus funds but since a year ago they dont even take them or very rarely anymore as most are not worth having.

400k might sound a lot but its actually not when you break it down, 8 of them playing across several casinos 365 days a year it is only about £140 a day each average, but they do have losing sessions, but when they running hot they have been known to clear 10k in a day.

Before roulette they used to travel around milking the clubbers in casinos like grand slams etc but those days are long gone.

I dont know all the ins and outs as i never had the start up bankroll to join as was something crazy like 5 or 10k each.
 
bradztheman said:
Just a question. Are you mods pro gamblers or people who just like a flutter?
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Only speaking for myself, I'm not a Pro Gambler, but I do spend every day researching, writing about and playing live casinos games. I prefer card based games but do dabble with roulette and other variants - always live though.

I win, lose and break even. Over the course of the past 5 years i'm probably even or just slightly down. That's mainly due to the way I bet, little and often, rather than large bets. I set myself profit and loss limits. When I hit either I stop playing.

Of course i'm not always that disciplined and on those occasions I tend to chase losses and end up losing everything! It's controlling that urge that decides whether I end up breaking even or sustain large losses.
 
neilw said:
Only speaking for myself, I'm not a Pro Gambler, but I do spend every day researching, writing about and playing live casinos games. I prefer card based games but do dabble with roulette and other variants - always live though.

I win, lose and break even. Over the course of the past 5 years i'm probably even or just slightly down. That's mainly due to the way I bet, little and often, rather than large bets. I set myself profit and loss limits. When I hit either I stop playing.

Of course i'm not always that disciplined and on those occasions I tend to chase losses and end up losing everything! It's controlling that urge that decides whether I end up breaking even or sustain large losses.
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How do you play? What betting patterns do you make? Flat betting? Of slight increase when you lose? After years and years of plying ive not really found any way of playing that works apart from slightly increasing the bet on a loss, not quite doubling
 
bradztheman said:
How do you play? What betting patterns do you make? Flat betting? Of slight increase when you lose? After years and years of plying ive not really found any way of playing that works apart from slightly increasing the bet on a loss, not quite doubling
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I will either bet red/black and try and follow trends, much like in I do when playing Baccarat. I wouldn't call it a system and very much depends on how the wheel is behaving when I arrive at the table. Otherwise I might just bet on one section of the wheel, again depending on the tendancy of the wheel. I do know that the last spins are not representative of what's going to happen next, but it's an approach that has served me well.

I also manage my bankroll. If I start with £100 then i'm only pacing bets up to 10% of my bank roll, no more.

There's no science to it, but works for me most of the time.

If I want the big payouts for small bets I go play slots, and normally spunk my money there lol.
 
neilw said:
I will either bet red/black and try and follow trends, much like in I do when playing Baccarat. I wouldn't call it a system and very much depends on how the wheel is behaving when I arrive at the table. Otherwise I might just bet on one section of the wheel, again depending on the tendancy of the wheel. I do know that the last spins are not representative of what's going to happen next, but it's an approach that has served me well.

I also manage my bankroll. If I start with £100 then i'm only pacing bets up to 10% of my bank roll, no more.

There's no science to it, but works for me most of the time.

If I want the big payouts for small bets I go play slots, and normally spunk my money there lol.
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I NEVER win on slots. Its always a downwards spiral!!
 
I had about € 80 bonus money lying around.
Lost all nine spins aaaaand it was gone.

At least half of the spins, the ball initially landed on a good number, but Evo performed the old familiar trick again: the ball popped back out and slowly started searching for the nearest losing spot.

It's like watching the ball play "the floor is lava" with your numbers. If you put aside your financial interests for a moment, it's genuinely impressive to see how accurate it is.
 

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