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hi guys and gals just a quick query as i never use them and you guys are probably better versed on this stuff than me randomly trawling a website lol.
at the moment i only deposit using a debit card and after withdrawel its in my bank next day for example, if for instance i use paypal or netteller would it go imediatly into that account?, then from those accounts can i transfer it imediatly into my bank account thus bypassing the bank clearing system and waiting that extra day or does it still have to clear in the bank say next day? hope this is clear i just never use paypal or netteller and see some of you do so wondering if its more conveniant for getting funds :D.
 
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hi guys and gals just a quick query as i never use them and you guys are probably better versed on this stuff than randomly trawling a website lol.
at the moment i only deposit using a debit card and after withdrawel its in my bank next day for example, if for instance i use paypal or netteller would it go imediatly into that account?, then from those accounts can i transfer it imediatly into my bank account thus bypassing the bank clearing system or does it still have to clear in the bank say next day? hope this is clear :D.

Neteller does bypass the bank in a way, and you can verify a bank account and then withdraw from Neteller to said bank. Unfortunately, Neteller to bank takes about 7 days and there is a charge of £5. Another drawback is that unlike a bank, money in Neteller is NOT covered by the Investors Compensation Scheme, so you rely on Neteller to have a means (which they do, a trust arrangement) to protect client balances from any failure of Neteller.

Neteller is really designed for those who play regularly, or who deposit sums large enough that the banks repeatedly block the transactions for a fraud check where you have to wait for them to phone you to verify it was a genuine transaction.

If you are playing at places that are able to deliver next day withdrawals to your bank via your card, then there is little to be gained by using a service like Neteller. It is true that once paid by a casino, the money arrives in a Neteller account straight away, rather than the next banking day.

Another downside to using debit cards has been reported though, and it has been that applications for loans have been refused after gambling transactions have been seen on the bank statement. If this is a concern, using Neteller will make it less obvious during a loan application, but opening an account with a different bank solely for gambling via debit card should have the same effect, just don't use these statements when a loan application asks for 3 months worth of bank statements.

Overall, Neteller (and the other one, Skrill) will tend to charge for services that we are used to getting for free from the bank, such as ATM withdrawals from any bank's ATM (not those ones that are not run by banks that you see in the corner shop, they charge anyway). You can get a Net+ card, like a pre paid card, that will allow you to use your Neteller funds to pay in shops for free. Unfortunately, the Net+ card has a habit of suddenly being "unavailable" due to the main Neteller service being down for maintenance, which can be embarrassing if one is at the till ready to pay for something.
 
thanks for your response mate, yeah i had the problem of it showing on my statement when going for a current account with a new bank so i have had that problem luckily i dont need a loan or anything atm :D. i mainly ask simply to find out if theres a way to instantly get my money into my bank rather than waiting for the bank processing (impatiant, greedy call it what you like :D) as i can get my withdrawels processed whitin half an hour usually but then im waiting till atleast 3 the next day for it hitting bank i wasnt sure if i did it with paypal for example i could transfer it straight from there the moment its hits as i heard paypal transactions hit the bank imediatly (heard from girlfriend altho she really isnt clued up on these things so i take it with a pinch of salt :D)
 
thanks for your response mate, yeah i had the problem of it showing on my statement when going for a current account with a new bank so i have had that problem luckily i dont need a loan or anything atm :D. i mainly ask simply to find out if theres a way to instantly get my money into my bank rather than waiting for the bank processing (impatiant, greedy call it what you like :D) as i can get my withdrawels processed whitin half an hour usually but then im waiting till atleast 3 the next day for it hitting bank i wasnt sure if i did it with paypal for example i could transfer it straight from there the moment its hits as i heard paypal transactions hit the bank imediatly (heard from girlfriend altho she really isnt clued up on these things so i take it with a pinch of salt :D)

PayPal may be faster, but they are not too keen on gambling transactions unless they can be 100% sure they are legal. Many casinos don't even show PayPal as an option, however the UK licensed ones are 100% legal, and may well accept PayPal.

I think 3pm the next day is about as fast as it gets. Very few casinos do truly instant withdrawals, so next day is often the best I get with Neteller, which is no better than you get with your debit card.

Maybe stick with what you know for now, but do some more research on these wallets to see if they might be better for you.

I use Neteller, but mostly as a store of money between casinos. I still wait a few days for a bank transfer out of Neteller, and I am a VIP!

If you think you might be wanting to apply for a loan, mortgage, or maybe even a new card or current account, it may be worth moving your depositing off the bank statements so that it doesn't have a negative impact on any application. You will need 3 months worth of "clean" statements to show a prospective lender. It seems many see even one or two gambling transactions as a sign of risk that it could become such a problem that repayments might be missed.

Whilst you are here, a quick look at the listings under "Rogue" and "Not Recommended" will be worthwhile to avoid you getting stung. The "accredited" section are considered the best, but those listed in the "reservation" are generally OK too.
 
Paypal are indeed instant to bank account now, I don't use it much for gambling but for eBay - it's been that way for about 2 years I think now, they used to charge extra for faster payments then they just switched to all transactions processed immediately... great service for sure
 

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