Casinos

Casinos By Status

Popular Filters

By Banking Options

Games

All Games

Bonuses

Popular Bonus Filters

Forums

Popular Forums

Forum User Features

Complaints

Submit A Complaint (PAB)

PAB Rules and Guidelines

Browse PABs

Gambling News

Popular News Sections

About Us

About Us

external image

Do you play LIVE DEALER games?

Do you play online "Live Dealer" games?

  • Yes, me like!

    Votes: 18 31.6%

  • No - computer/browser problem.

    Votes: 2 3.5%

  • No - no interest - wrong games.

    Votes: 21 36.8%

  • No - haven't tried yet. (please post why not)

    Votes: 16 28.1%
  • Total voters
    57
The Dude

The Dude

The artist formally known as Casinomeister
Hall Of Fame Awardee Shield Meister
Joined
Jun 30, 1998
Location
Bierland
I'd like to get some input on live games. Do you play them? If so, why? If not, why not?

Are there games that you haven't seen that you would like to see "live". Seen and quirky Vegas games that haven't made it online yet??
 
What is a live dealer game?

Do you actually see the people and it's real time or do you mean like those BJ computer people when you go into a slots casino

That sounds kind of cool, Im behind the times on this one! Can you explain more?
 
babs7262 said:
Do you actually see the people and it's real time or do you mean like those BJ computer people when you go into a slots casino

That sounds kind of cool, Im behind the times on this one! Can you explain more?
Click to expand...

There is a webcam and you actually interact with a live dealer who deals you extra large cards (so you can see them better) or spins a roulette wheel. It's all live.
 
THat is way too cool! Are any of them accredited Bryan or is this still the research to find out if enough are interested. I would love to see what one looks like even though I cant gamble for a couple of days

This way I can take my time and look it over. That really sounds addicting (for my personality lol) maybe I shouldnt:D
 
32Red and one or two other MG casinos now have them in the lobby with more due. MG have built a system to record all cards/plays and store in a video-vault that can be searched...very clever stuff, cos thats the problem with Live Dealer up to now - no way of proving the dealer screwed up.

I voted "Not yet" but i have a doubt that I would stick with it anyway. Not my types of game.
 
ugaboga said:
Speaking about live games, does anyone have any information about Casino Web Cam? I'm looking for a reputable live dealer casino which uses the CWC gaming platform.

I'd love to see live slots :) :D :lolup:
Click to expand...

Yes I've played blackjack with CWC several months ago. The advantage is there was video w/ audio. The disadvantage I remember is the players constantly flirting with the Costa Rican babes. So you need patience to play "live".

I also played at Kiwi back when they used PLaytech. The Filipina ladies are also cute and flirty, but no voice so that kinda turned me off. The best was when they has a Halloween costume party.
 
I do play live dealer's games ever so often at MG. It's slow, I know, but just the right pace when you want to relax and kick back and maybe have a beer(or cup o' tea).

Yes, you get to play against a man or lady who's just been taught the basics of BJ and barely graduated 'smiling 101' but it's a nice change of pace. And yes, you can use the bonus hunter's chart, there's plenty of time given to decide whether to hit or nit. I mean fold.
 
Well I had to vote "No - no interest - wrong games" because this was the closest thing to my real answer, which would have been "No - no interest - it's ludicrously SLOOOOOW - I'd rather watch paint dry!" if that had been on the list.

I played it at Ladbrokes (which I believe uses the Casino WebCam feed anyway) and it was pretty crap. Far too long between hands / spins of the roulette wheel, bad camera work, and they even announced the wrong number on roulette when the ball clearly went in a different one!!! :eek2:
On the blackjack the feed was so slow you saw what card you were getting on the electronic display before you saw the girl pull it out of the shoe!
If it could be speeded up and the girls were topless it might be more interesting, but as it is, phooey!

KK
 
Fast paced BJ

KasinoKing, I completely agree with you as far as the Playtech live dealers are concerned. Roulette and BJ are painfully slow (well actually, roulette is probably faster than in a land-based casino; but for on-line players, it is slow). Baccarat is somewhat quicker; 30 seconds allowed to place bets.

But at DUBLINBET.com, there is a really fast-paced BJ. It has got some special rules; anyone who is interested can see for himself/herself; the player really has to stay focused because the game is really fast and you have to think and decide really quickly - because of the special rules - it is a kind of a percentage-payout BJ; there is a special name for it but I forgot it.

Not to mention that now they offered me 150% bonus up to 500 EUR - too bad I do not now have the money to take advantage of it. And you can even meet the WR on roulette... really good. Either on live roulette or on online roulette, etc. IMO, a really good choice for live dealer games.

For a low-roller like me, however, the minimum bet of 5 EUR at BJ is discouraging and almost prohibitive...
 
The game I would play would be roulette, but prefer 'quick-spin' on MG casinos because I rarely move my money around... it's horridly slow onland too, even on a sparse table.

I'm getting better at pai gau poker and would probably play that Live online.

Too bad for the wire act and all that crap... it would be fun to have a casinocam and an iphone and blog and take bets in person myself :)
 
I like live BJ online -except!- when the dealer and/or casino boss/flunky try to get me engaged in chitchat. Trying to read the dealer's chat, type, and watch the deal, and the cards, is not fun. :rolleyes: I'm not that coordinated. :D

I'd like to play PaiGow live.

Hell, I'd like to play anywhere live... is there a live dealer casino for US players?
 
Mousey said:
I like live BJ online -except!- when the dealer and/or casino boss/flunky try to get me engaged in chitchat. Trying to read the dealer's chat, type, and watch the deal, and the cards, is not fun. :rolleyes: I'm not that coordinated. :D

I'd like to play PaiGow live.

Hell, I'd like to play anywhere live... is there a live dealer casino for US players?
Click to expand...

Baccarat, blackjack, euro roulette at riverbelle :)
 
I think the last time I played live BJ online was at Dr. Ho's. The dealer drove me nuts trying to talk (type) to me. She took a break, another dealer came in who said very little but then the 'host' came over to our table and started talking... where did I learn to play? How long had I been playing.. yada yada... I never played there again.
 
Are there any games you'd like to see excluding strip poker? :p

I've had a tour of the live dealer office that Playtech uses in Manila. Fascinating stuff.

It's pretty popular with the Asian market - just wondering if a western style of play prefers fast machines instead of slow dealers. Maybe they can pump the girls full of amphetamines :D
 
:lolup::lolup::lolup:

I might be able to overcome the slow gaming if there were 'rooms' and you could look at six or seven other players, voice chat, that kind of thing. But, no, too slow for roulette, haven't played any others yet. Will probably play pai gau when I get better at it and it comes to an online casino near me :thumbsup:
 
I played with "live dealer" at Casino Del Rio. Is pretty good IMO. A lot of chatting going on and the dealer was responding, so it took way more time than it should.
I prefer the live dealer over the computer software.
This casino was in a little room with the dealer the table and a camera on her, all asian girls.

There is also another one that has the camera in the actuall land based casino and it feeds the link to your computer.. no chatting here, you just watch the live Roulette wheel and the patrons of the casino around the table..
 
Yes I played the Live dealer Games at different Playtech Casinos, like Tropez and Europa.

But it is too slow, not the dealer, but the other guys playing with you, the are thinking one minute about what to do next.
And I am not a BJ Player, my favourite games are the video slots.
 
So, Are these live dealer games only in Playtech? Because I wont be able to sign up. let me know if there are any that take US players, I just wanna watch for a bit. Maybe ill try delrio just to see if I can atleast get in and look
 
RiverBelle has them , iassume nugget and all their sisters do to, but I don't know.
 
I tried some live games a few years ago with a casino that was pretty new . I don't even know if they are around anymore . At that time The feed was choppy and they lost connection a bit . I bet now things are alot different so I would at least try it again if it was a good casino.
 
I played these at Dr. HO several years ago and more recently at a sportsbook casino and Ladbrokes. The action is quite clumsy and I have my doubts as to the shuffling of these monstrous cards. The Baccarat is too streaky for my liking. There were instances where the live hands did not match the animated display on the screen so it is advisable that once you notice an error you write down the hand number immediately and call the pit boss. The BJ seemed okay.
 
Janek12 said:
But at DUBLINBET.com, there is a really fast-paced BJ. It has got some special rules; anyone who is interested can see for himself/herself; the player really has to stay focused because the game is really fast and you have to think and decide really quickly - because of the special rules - it is a kind of a percentage-payout BJ; there is a special name for it but I forgot it.
Click to expand...
It's called "early payout" blackjack. There are no hit/stand/double strategy decisions. Instead the dealer plays your hand with (close to) basic strategy, and you have choice to either continue or take an early payout with each hand. The early payout is usually about 97% of the hand's value if the play is continued.

With VueTec software, I prefer their standard computerized blackjack to the live "early payout" blackjack. The standard blackjack has a slight player edge with optimal strategy due to the early surrender, allows you to make typical strategy decisions, and does not have typical live game limitations like slow play, shuffle breaks, and forcing decisions within a specified period.
 
I like "live dealer" games, in spite of they're tooooo slow :(
But I always prefer to play "live dealer" games cause every dealer is almost ideal RNG :D
 
I<3Microgaming said:
Yes - I've played them all substantially.

I'm still not convinced that online casinos are not rigged, but with live dealer I can be positive it isn't! :thumbsup:
Click to expand...
How do you know that they are not stacking the deck, dealing seconds or shuffle the cards in a way that's beneficial for the casino? Land based casino have done all of these things.
 
I have played at several live dealer casinos. When US players were allowed I had tried at Europa group and other Playtechs. They were "ok" but live dealers are WAY too slow because invariably you have someone playing who either answered the phone or ran to check on the kids or whatever... thus making you wait for them to stand on a 18 or something. So it is mind boggling slow even compared to Land Based Casino play and especially next to On Line casino play.
Casino Web Cam is a nice place and reputable from everything that I have seen. One BIG WARNING:
Stay away from Londons casino. They are exclusively live dealers and excruciatingly rogue. I have seen multiple player complaints and the biggest "bet" is if you will get paid there or not.
The upside to live games is Chatting with other players AND the dealers (who are usually extremely attractive females, BTW :thumbsup:).
 
GrandMaster said:
How do you know that they are not stacking the deck, dealing seconds or shuffle the cards in a way that's beneficial for the casino? Land based casino have done all of these things.
Click to expand...

In Playtech casinos, they shuffle the cards in front of you; they deal in such a way that you can clearly see the way they do it. In one of the versions of live dealer Baccarat, they have a TV next to the dealer with CNN running all the time so as to prove the game really takes place in real time.
As for roulette, that is IMO also indisputable; cheating would be really complicated; not that I did not think about it - the only way they could cheat (and I stretching this really far :)) is that they would have to calculate the total bets placed by hundreds, more likely thousands or tens of thousands players all over the world and then put in seamlessly a video recording of a roulette spin with the most advantageous outcome for the casinos (because it is one roulette wheel for all the Playtech casinos). I tend to be paranoid but for me, live dealers in Playtech casinos are trustful and I would trust them far more than any
RNG; not only that "seeing is believing" but if you get a bad run at BJ, and I DID get 11 consecutive losses at live BJ, playing basic strategy, at least I can be absolutely sure there was nothing rigged.
 
GrandMaster said:
How do you know that they are not stacking the deck, dealing seconds or shuffle the cards in a way that's beneficial for the casino? Land based casino have done all of these things.
Click to expand...

Believe me, I have probably played more hands of BJ and Baccarat at Casinowebcam software casinos than any member on this board. I have a pretty good feel for the place, their shuffles are real and authentic and you can always track the cards.

They have been operating for a few years now, 24/7, they have dealt thousands and thousands of hands. They have never been subject of any scrutiny. 100% not rigged.
 
Blackjack Secrets by Wong has a chapter on cheating in which he describes various methods that have been used by casinos. A skilled cheater can cheat right in front of your eyes and you won't notice it unless you know exactly what to look for, and you have no hope of noticing cheating over a webcam.
 
GrandMaster said:
Blackjack Secrets by Wong has a chapter on cheating in which he describes various methods that have been used by casinos. A skilled cheater can cheat right in front of your eyes and you won't notice it unless you know exactly what to look for, and you have no hope of noticing cheating over a webcam.
Click to expand...

Well, in the thousands of hands I have played at blackjack at Casinowebcam and their skin sites, in part due to the large wager requirements of their bonuses, I have always won a little, broken even, or lost a bit flat betting. Nothing beyond the scope of the standard statistical distributions of blackjack. When I lost big it was because of my own bad bankroll management. Same for baccarat (although baccarat isn't riggable, the average hand usually has the same amount of action on B and P).

And well, if you suspect the reputable live dealer casinos are cheating, I'd be interested to know what you think goes on some of the more reputable software operations!
 
I am not saying that they are cheating. I am saying that just because you see the dealer and the cards, it does not mean that there is no scope for cheating.
 
GrandMaster said:
I am not saying that they are cheating. I am saying that just because you see the dealer and the cards, it does not mean that there is no scope for cheating.
Click to expand...

I agree with GrandMaster about it doesn't mean that there is no scope for cheating when playing with Live Dealer. But I must say that there more less methods to cheat, than when you are playing usual games (not Live, I mean). On one of russian online forums I found many threads marked smthng like "How they can cheat..." and players discussed it many times. The main goal is that Live Dealer is limited in his/her actions to cheat, especcially if you can see him/her. But...casinos may use roulette wheel which are made with some "upgrade" (width of one-number section may be changed, f.e., or may install special mechanism which allow a little acceleration/inhibition of roulette wheel - using these methods dealers may enforce the wheel to stop when they want). And if you have slow or bad connection (or casinos may transmit low-quality video) - you cannot see these small details.
And in this case casinos may decrease players's chance to win.
 
Agreed. Not only would it be really risky but it isn't as if these games arent built to have a fairly sizeable house advantage. There is no reason to "rig" anything because the advantage is already built into the games. I never understood why some casinos/software would do this. It is amazing.
 
gaydave said:
Agreed. Not only would it be really risky but it isn't as if these games arent built to have a fairly sizeable house advantage. There is no reason to "rig" anything because the advantage is already built into the games. I never understood why some casinos/software would do this. It is amazing.
Click to expand...

Indeed.
 

Similar threads

Webzcas
The Evolution of Online Casino Games
Replies
12
Views
962
hughdal
hughdal
S
Videoslots sort out the new games before making them live
Replies
1
Views
499
YouTubeSlots
YouTubeSlots
D
Jackbit Casino - Withdrawal Issues
Replies
1
Views
136
Nate
Nate
Nate
Need your input: Which Software provider do you trust most?
Replies
33
Views
714
Casinos Hate Winners
Casinos Hate Winners
H
Evolution Live Dealer Holdem tables won't load, any suggestions?
Replies
3
Views
494
HerculesRockafellar
H

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 1 (members: 0, guests: 1)

Accredited Casinos

Read about our rating system and how it's done.
Back
Top