Do slots remember?

aceking123

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Still stand by that all important information that has never ever been proven from anyone, although many have tried, I myself still stand by the games at the server do in fact have a memory, ip, player etc etc all info sent via casino what is all the info sent ? Players are told its just a little but I just don't believe it.

To many years playing I guess.

One thing is true once you hit a large 2000x bet upwards the chances of hitting the same again or above are slim, until you've played that back & more.

The current slots are terrible in terms of play its either hit or nothing. Gone of the days of building, then getting your moneys worth.
 

Halvor

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Once I get a massive win on a slot, I put it in the note pad not to play again, as like many once the big hit has been gained the rtp wants it back...

HERE IS THE BIGGIE....

If a slot cant remember how does it work out the rtp?
Well... the slot do not "work out" the RTP, games run on pre defined maths. It does not matter what have happened the hour, day, week or year before, the pre defined RTP remains the same.
 

ZoeP

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Ah yes Zoe, straight from the Donald Trump school of what counts as proof and what does not


Ahh straight from the indoctrinated.

As for Trump he's a puppet like the rest of the presidents before him, i wonder do any of you have thoughts for yourself? or do you watch n read crap then regurgitate it?

You can try n belittle me all you want but, I think and speak for myself i don't let Governments or media do it for me.
 

cncas2123

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Ahh straight from the indoctrinated.

As for Trump he's a puppet like the rest of the presidents before him, i wonder do any of you have thoughts for yourself? or do you watch n read crap then regurgitate it?

You can try n belittle me all you want but, I think and speak for myself i don't let Governments or media do it for me.
So now that you are armed with the knowledge that the slots remember, if you win you wont win again etc, I am presuming you dont play slots any more? Because if you did that would either mean you are an addict or you dont really believe they are rigged and remember?
Which is it, if you still play?
 

Halvor

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So now that you are armed with the knowledge that the slots remember, if you win you wont win again etc, I am presuming you dont play slots any more? Because if you did that would either mean you are an addict or you dont really believe they are rigged and remember?
Which is it, if you still play?
I would suggest she does neither and approach the regulators. Her ground breaking finds will put us all out of business :)
 

ZoeP

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You forget all the shady and corrupt things that have gone on in the last 100 years.

You think you are clever when in fact you are nothing more than a number in a system, least i can think for myself and not regurgitate crap.
 

cncas2123

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You forget all the shady and corrupt things that have gone on in the last 100 years.

You think you are clever when in fact you are nothing more than a number in a system, least i can think for myself and not regurgitate crap.
But you still play the slots that you say are rigged? That sounds more like feeding the addiction than playing the slots for fun.
Why else would you play when you know that they are rigged against you?
 

Halvor

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Even odder given it's someone who has their 'eyes open' to all this duplicitous goings on :rolleyes:
There's an argument to be made that many of the tin foil posters on this forum would be better off if they had never heard of RTP, at the very least they would not have a misconception that RTP reflect itself correctly in a small sample of a few 100 or 1000s of spins. Or that they should expect 100x+ on every feature, even games that's fairly easy to trigger.

I had a 11k+x win on Iron bank the first time I played the game, never managed to get that again afterwords. For me that indicates random, for a few that would somehow indicates the game got rigged against me afterwards.
 

Beeswax

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Feels like it today, won a nice amount last night, back on same site £70 on minimum stake not 1 bonus even on steam tower, was quite annoyed but I’m sure it’s just bad luck...
 

Halvor

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Feels like it today, won a nice amount last night, back on same site £70 on minimum stake not 1 bonus even on steam tower, was quite annoyed but I’m sure it’s just bad luck...
Yes it is in that case bad luck but it happens. Just as having 2 features within a few spins are luck.

There's not a industry wide conspiracy between the suppliers to manipulate the games. And as have been repeated to death by both me and Trance, the casinos can not make any changes to games or in any way affect the outcome - the games are hosted by us, the providers, and we can not control who wins or not either.
 

Slotplayer83

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There's an argument to be made that many of the tin foil posters on this forum would be better off if they had never heard of RTP, at the very least they would not have a misconception that RTP reflect itself correctly in a small sample of a few 100 or 1000s of spins. Or that they should expect 100x+ on every feature, even games that's fairly easy to trigger.

I had a 11k+x win on Iron bank the first time I played the game, never managed to get that again afterwords. For me that indicates random, for a few that would somehow indicates the game got rigged against me afterwards.

Very interesting theory; but if you'd play in a regular way like any other punter i would bet a 100 quid that you had to recycle the 11k to even get anything good out of it. And thats the point of this thread.

It's questioned if slots do remember, if you win 10k and it takes a equal amount like 10k in order to start seeing considerable wins in return, then yes there is a cycle going on in the back.

Ive had it too many times; hitting big in any casino, withdrawl, come back and play against a huge wall which is impossible to "break" through. Slots where supposed to be random; but they are'nt in this obvious case that many many many players could confirm this behaviour.

Slots dont actually use a real random generator, but a pseudo random generator, which is almost the same, but still not a genuine random as you would expect to have on a roulette wheel for example.

Its something very common i see as well; i always seem to play my deposit straight; for example, putting in 50; at some point getting back to that 50 or near around it, and then chrashing down like no tomorrow, no matter what strategy or game i play.
 

Halvor

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It's not a bloody theory, the games use random number generators.

I work in the industry, I do know how slots work and yes my access level is high enough to know if anything was wrong.

But go ahead, show your extensive proof of how it actually work, I dare you to come back with facts and not some bullshit about how you know what you see.
 

Mr_Slot5

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Very interesting theory; but if you'd play in a regular way like any other punter i would bet a 100 quid that you had to recycle the 11k to even get anything good out of it. And thats the point of this thread.

It's questioned if slots do remember, if you win 10k and it takes a equal amount like 10k in order to start seeing considerable wins in return, then yes there is a cycle going on in the back.

Ive had it too many times; hitting big in any casino, withdrawl, come back and play against a huge wall which is impossible to "break" through. Slots where supposed to be random; but they are'nt in this obvious case that many many many players could confirm this behaviour.

Slots dont actually use a real random generator, but a pseudo random generator, which is almost the same, but still not a genuine random as you would expect to have on a roulette wheel for example.

Its something very common i see as well; i always seem to play my deposit straight; for example, putting in 50; at some point getting back to that 50 or near around it, and then chrashing down like no tomorrow, no matter what strategy or game i play.
Agree completely, I'd be very shocked if there isn't some form of 'compensation' algorithm running in the background. Played slots for nigh on 10 years now and as you say, it's uncanny how the same set of circumstances recur time and again. At this point I feel it more of an insult that certain people with vested interests say that there isn't. If there's nothing of the sort happening then why do these industry individuals get so aerated and keen to discredit people as loons or problem gamblers?

It's quite obvious if you look at a game like BOD...on those sessions where the scatters disappear you can see the same reel configuration being pulled by the RNG two or three times- which to me says the RNG is pulling from a limited pool of (bad) results.

BUT it doesn't bother me, it is what it is, I don't play to win money I play to have a bit of fun for an hour or two. Certainly not worth ranting and raving about something that will never be proven. If the wins roll in then all good.

In essence, I trust what my eyes and brain tell me over people with a vested financial interest. Instinct doesn't fail me often :)
 

Slotplayer83

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It's not a bloody theory, the games use random number generators.

Yes, a pseudo random generator. Thats less intensive then having a real random generator. And why re-invent the same thing over and over again if you could just use a psuedo and generate a sequence of near as random numbers in the first place, that within parameters do what they are supposed todo.

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I mean ive seen quite a few things by now, that none of you mentioned here since you got your so called high level access. On how casino's do tackle volatility by selecting a lower version, or removing certain aspects of the (original) games that might give the player any benefit. We've seen the change in the last few years. Let alone the various RTP's being nerved down some more, in esp lockdown times.

Your trustworthy is as good as the director of Marlboro claiming that there's no such thing of addiction when smoking sigarettes. Obviously you serve your own interest here and i woud'nt take something from you if you cant claim otherwise.


Agree completely, I'd be very shocked if there isn't some form of 'compensation' algorithm running in the background. Played slots for nigh on 10 years now and as you say, it's uncanny how the same set of circumstances recur time and again. At this point I feel it more of an insult that certain people with vested interests say that there isn't. If there's nothing of the sort happening then why do these industry individuals get so aerated and keen to discredit people as loons or problem gamblers?

It's quite obvious if you look at a game like BOD...on those sessions where the scatters disappear you can see the same reel configuration being pulled by the RNG two or three times- which to me says the RNG is pulling from a limited pool of (bad) results.

BUT it doesn't bother me, it is what it is, I don't play to win money I play to have a bit of fun for an hour or two. Certainly not worth ranting and raving about something that will never be proven. If the wins roll in then all good.

In essence, I trust what my eyes and brain tell me over people with a vested financial interest. Instinct doesn't fail me often :)

There's something very remarkable about some streamers on the net; they all never seem to really got ahead of their deposit ratio vs winning ratio. I remember Rocknrolla previous year slamming 85k or so on this brittish casino, to win that all back in december 2020. It reminds me of quite a few wins too, that these such big wins never came without proper investing.

It's like he paid to be entertained watching him win back his own money.

It's just that the next big phat win i'll grab ill just self exclude myself from life from now on into a particular casino. Because i've bin through that mangle too many (obvious) bloody times to know by now, it's not random. And how a 'streak' of bad luck like suddenly hits me for the wager of 10 grand (lol) after hitting withdrawl of 10 grand.
 
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cautioned about the misinterpretation of a PRNG as a truly random generator, and joked that "Anyone who considers arithmetical methods of producing random digits is, of course, in a state of sin."

Could somehow agree with this statement.
 
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