Do slots remember?

9HOURSAWAY

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I've recently had a 1500x and a 720x on Primal Megaways, tonight I put exactly 1003 spins through it on low stakes (£0.60p, £0.80p and £1.00) £400 deposited in total, lost the lot and got ONE bonus which paid 17x..... I'm going to need a new tin foil hat because I swear that fucker knew it was taking some back tonight!
 

shadow123

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I wouldnt say slots remember as such but i would definately say they have phases where they play differently,
Lil Devil and Royal Mint both do the same thing, runs when you dont get a heartstopper for up to 100 games then
3 or 4 in a short space of time, I would defy BTG to deny this is programmed in, I have seen it too many times.
Also Realistic 3 reel games have unnatural runs of of both winning losing spins, no way can the play be random.
so in a way some games could be said to remember.Would be suprized if games remembered historic big wins
but the capability to do so has been around for donkeys years
 

Kroffe

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I would think going 1000 spins on primal and only getting one crap feature is probably not that uncommon.
How else would it be able to dish out those 700-1500x wins you got on previous sessions?
No doubt someone was having crap sessions on the game while you were lucky, and now you are paying for someone else to hit that 1500x.
 

9HOURSAWAY

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I would think going 1000 spins on primal and only getting one crap feature is probably not that uncommon.
How else would it be able to dish out those 700-1500x wins you got on previous sessions?
No doubt someone was having crap sessions on the game while you were lucky, and now you are paying for someone else to hit that 1500x.
It's a fair point you make mate
 

PuddleFish

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This has been discussed and explained by TraceMonkey a number of times in the 'Ask Me Anything about Slots (AMA) 2020 with Trancemonkey' threads so please go though them.

In short, they have no memory but we like to see patterns where there are none. A simple example. Flip a coin 9 times. If you saw 9 heads you would think that this last 10th flip would certainly get a tail. But the coin doesn't remember the previous 9 throws. Only you think it does because we see patterns.
This is why casinos has "last numbers" in roulette games so you think this and feel like it's a sure win. All previous bets where red so now i'm going to bet big because its surely a black this time.
 

deanparkr

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Slots store a players wins / losses etc for audit purposes I am sure, probably both Casino and Provider side. But I don't think it plays into the machines randomness at all.

Primal is a brutal slot. I can absolutely believe going 1000 spins and being wiped out. Always considered that game to be Ultra HV. I play it only from time to time, dont dare bet much higher than min bet. That machine will destroy a balance unless it is in a rare favourable mood.

It sucks, we all have these seemingly crazy dry spells at times and the mind wanders to the nearest tin foil hat. However this is a regulated industry, and there are peeps always on the look out to prove foul play. I don't doubt the community like this one would have smelt a rat if there was one to find!
 

Kingks

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People say they don't but in some cases they do one slot I played changed completely don't know if its because they nerfed it or what
 

johnnybagel

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Our brains are programmed to spot patterns. They are also programmed to find evidence that supports pre-existing beliefs. So basically if you start believing slots remember you will then start noticing 'evidence' that support this all over the place. It's also really difficult to change someone's mind on this stuff. I read a load of psychology books a while back, really interesting.

But anyway, I don't think slots remember and then adjust the way they play to balance things out. Some slots remember things, like the ones where you can come back and pick up where you left off, there's a viking themed one where you have to use your wins to complete patterns to progress, but that's not the same. You're just experiencing the variance and volatility of the game.
 

deanparkr

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Speaking of Viking themed slots, not sure if it is the one you mean but Vikings Go Berserk now I remember it... that is one slot that I can't get my head around. I am sure that one must be dodgy. Its a slot where you have to collect the feature, but as you get closer to the feature the RTP drops massively. It gives the impression that the slot has to rinse the player by X amount or % until the feature is unlocked.

I know this has been discussed on here before and explanations given but it is something I have never got my head around.

It also lets you collect the feature on any bet level and maintains its progress? I just... gah... the mind boggles on that slot.
 

Kroffe

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Speaking of Viking themed slots, not sure if it is the one you mean but Vikings Go Berserk now I remember it... that is one slot that I can't get my head around. I am sure that one must be dodgy. Its a slot where you have to collect the feature, but as you get closer to the feature the RTP drops massively. It gives the impression that the slot has to rinse the player by X amount or % until the feature is unlocked.

I know this has been discussed on here before and explanations given but it is something I have never got my head around.

It also lets you collect the feature on any bet level and maintains its progress? I just... gah... the mind boggles on that slot.
When you unlock the collect feature with one of the vikings, it will be played with the average betsize.
So if you played 100 spins on €1 and one spin on €2 to unlock it, the feature will be based on €1.01 stake.
 

ZoeP

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If you have a feeling and an intuition about something then its probably right.

Take VS and Opal fruits for an example hit my biggest win of 750x on 20p since september i have plowed hundreds and thousands of spins maybe 10k plus and what do you know its just dead spins galore, can barely get a 20x base game win and every bonus starts with dead spins barley getting to 4x or im getting to 10x with about 30x win then 5 dead spins.

These casinos are running algorithms where they give you one decent hit then then until you have doubled that back in play you will never get another.

Been at VS since 2016 Won one freeroll One paid battle and maybe 2 1000x bonuses in normal play.

You see these fake streamers hitting daily whoppers and it's all CONtrolled. Nothing random about these slots anymore the greed has taken over and now were paying for it steeply.

Normal people get screwed while those in it get rewarded.

I don't need a reply with all your Tin Foil hat CONspiracy digs, i know what i play n see everyday and it aint what you ppl say.
 

Halvor

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i would say its more do casinos remember ?
Your constant claims of conspiracy would be so much more believable if you at the very least could understand that casinos have no way to affect the outcome of slots.
If you have a feeling and an intuition about something then its probably right.

Take VS and Opal fruits for an example hit my biggest win of 750x on 20p since september i have plowed hundreds and thousands of spins maybe 10k plus and what do you know its just dead spins galore, can barely get a 20x base game win and every bonus starts with dead spins barley getting to 4x or im getting to 10x with about 30x win then 5 dead spins.

These casinos are running algorithms where they give you one decent hit then then until you have doubled that back in play you will never get another.

Been at VS since 2016 Won one freeroll One paid battle and maybe 2 1000x bonuses in normal play.

You see these fake streamers hitting daily whoppers and it's all CONtrolled. Nothing random about these slots anymore the greed has taken over and now were paying for it steeply.

Normal people get screwed while those in it get rewarded.

I don't need a reply with all your Tin Foil hat CONspiracy digs, i know what i play n see everyday and it aint what you ppl say.
You don't want accusations of tin foil, but at the same time you voice accusations with no proof what so ever. If this was so blatant as you claim, surely it should not take you long to prove it by analysing your game play. You know... actually provide some proof.

Unfortunately the "my gut feeling tells me so, so its true because reasons" do not count as proof and frankly is just conspiracy bullshit.

Outcome of slots are decided by random number generators. Even if a casino WANTED to change the outcome of a game round they can not. The games are not hosted by them, they do not have access to change anything related to the game play and yes, they do not need to rig the game, by default the house will always win.
 

ZoeP

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The Proof is with my own 2 eyes and every spin I watch. Ppl think you need stats and video for something to be proved these days to voice what you see, sorry but that's not true otherwise an eye witness account wouldn't hold up in court.

I have been a player at VS since 2016 when they were fair and honest since then i have watched this Corporation slide down further and further, felt the game play/RTP be adjusted while calling it out on other forums only to be proved right when they finally admitted it on CM.

I now See Watch with my own 2 Eys what's going on.

We also have other matters at VS Which other Forums have covered.

I have no interest in debating my fellow people just the Corporations who all employ the same tactics.
 

cncas2123

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The Proof is with my own 2 eyes and every spin I watch. Ppl think you need stats and video for something to be proved these days to voice what you see, sorry but that's not true otherwise an eye witness account wouldn't hold up in court.

I have been a player at VS since 2016 when they were fair and honest since then i have watched this Corporation slide down further and further, felt the game play/RTP be adjusted while calling it out on other forums only to be proved right when they finally admitted it on CM.

I now See Watch with my own 2 Eys what's going on.

We also have other matters at VS Which other Forums have covered.

I have no interest in debating my fellow people just the Corporations who all employ the same tactics.
With this knowledge that the slots at Videoslots are rigged and all the good wins have been taken away from them, do you still play them? If yes, why?
 

Halvor

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The Proof is with my own 2 eyes and every spin I watch. Ppl think you need stats and video for something to be proved these days to voice what you see, sorry but that's not true otherwise an eye witness account wouldn't hold up in court.

I have been a player at VS since 2016 when they were fair and honest since then i have watched this Corporation slide down further and further, felt the game play/RTP be adjusted while calling it out on other forums only to be proved right when they finally admitted it on CM.

I now See Watch with my own 2 Eys what's going on.

We also have other matters at VS Which other Forums have covered.

I have no interest in debating my fellow people just the Corporations who all employ the same tactics.
Yes lets take something irrelevant like being witness to a crime, and apply it to something that's not even remotely similar or relevant. You CAN check your stats with VS, and you can analyse if your theory holds any validity. But instead you chose not to. I think we both know you have not been a victim of foul play.

And please enlighten me on the other matters with VS on this forum where they have been found to breach their licensing and risk their entire business? Is it the case where you threatened them with a PAB for a browser specific problem you encountered?

And for the record I work for a game provider, and I can guarantee you that no casino, VideoSlots included, have the ability to change our games or in any other way make an impact on the certified games we do create and host.
 

michaelwilson

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I can't agree that slots remember and as well I can't deny. Usually, after big wins a have a huge lose streak that can continue by weeks. On the other hand I had moments when I was lucky for one full week. I know one old legend from the time I played live slots, if you have a big win take a break or at least change a slot you are playing.
 

sledge13

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Once I get a massive win on a slot, I put it in the note pad not to play again, as like many once the big hit has been gained the rtp wants it back...

HERE IS THE BIGGIE....

If a slot cant remember how does it work out the rtp?
 
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