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I did it again! Not a big prize but just to show you guys, it's definitely possible to score some nice hits on DoA. This is my third in about 2000 spins
(470x bet)
(470x bet)
Dead or Alive
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I agree with Nifty on this one, and this is my gripe - NetEnt are churning out these 'Low Variance' slots at a phenomenal pace - They are geared at someone who is happy to go 500 Spins and walk away with $30.
In the same line, I doubt releases like Space Wars and even Reel Rush are low variance. They are terrible with blank spins and there are likely 100 - 300x bet hits sitting there.
The design of the slot spitting out more 5-10x wins doesn't leave much RTP left for the bigger hits. - Again you could easily lose 200x your bet trying to get a 50x PLUS hit...
Nate
Yeah, but it just seems before the slots would go on streaks.. Ive had maybe 10 + cashouts of 3-10 K euros. From winning spreas on different slots. Lets say gonzo starts of paying and then dies down i move on to thunderfist and then it continues to pay. to be honest it seems i could just pick any slot when its paying and it would pay. Ive noticed this behaviour everytime ive won big. Same when im losing i can switch slots but its totally dead! And when my balance gets low it just gives me dead spins for the remaining 20-30 spins almost everytime!
Im having a really hard time beliving that these slots are random. Yeah they might pay the advertised RTP, but im 100% sure there is some kind of "rigging" or something going on. Free spins and features fore example.. Its no way possible that they are random. Im 110% sure the outcome is allready decided for you. Also i know alot of you will disagree but im almost convinced its IP/account based.
Its just so many weird things and patterns that not only me but my friends who play also have noticed. There are clear patterns to the slots behaviour that reoccur and then it cant be random, they are programmed that way. Im not only talking about when im losing but also when im winning. You can usually tell when you start winning that now its payday. And usually you also know when its gonna suck you dry.
Im having a really hard time beliving that these slots are random. Yeah they might pay the advertised RTP, but im 100% sure there is some kind of "rigging" or something going on. Free spins and features fore example.. Its no way possible that they are random. Im 110% sure the outcome is allready decided for you. Also i know alot of you will disagree but im almost convinced its IP/account based.
Its just so many weird things and patterns that not only me but my friends who play also have noticed. There are clear patterns to the slots behaviour that reoccur and then it cant be random, they are programmed that way. Im not only talking about when im losing but also when im winning. You can usually tell when you start winning that now its payday. And usually you also know when its gonna suck you dry.
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Im starting to hate this damn slot now. Seing how people win here, and only get shit myself. Have got the 5 bonus rounds two times, but they never paid more than like 300x bet. Think i gotta stick to starburst.
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Well, i guess they have found out that the lower variance slots are more fun for the average player who doesen't want to spend hours and alot of funds chasing the "big wins".
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I hear you
The only issues is once you go like 100 - 200x bet down on those slots its almost impossible to recover. I have been the lucky recipient of 200 - 300x bet losses on those slots never peaking more than 20x above my start balance.
This is where I get pissed off... I could have rather played DOA with that, and even if I didn't win, I had the chance to hit something. StarBUST and the likes make sure you never get seriously ahead unless you increase your wager.
I have played DOA at all bet sizes - I had the 5 Wilds on 1.80, 90c, 45c, 36c, 27c, 18c and even 9c ... paying well over 1000x bet each time. I low roll often to smack a nice payout and the probability of me hitting that on Space Wars or any other junk low variance netent slot is impossible.
The Game KISS from WMS is more a True Low Variance Slot - Id much rather play that for wagering that any version NetEnt have.
Nate
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I hear you
The only issues is once you go like 100 - 200x bet down on those slots its almost impossible to recover. I have been the lucky recipient of 200 - 300x bet losses on those slots never peaking more than 20x above my start balance.
This is where I get pissed off... I could have rather played DOA with that, and even if I didn't win, I had the chance to hit something. StarBUST and the likes make sure you never get seriously ahead unless you increase your wager.
I have played DOA at all bet sizes - I had the 5 Wilds on 1.80, 90c, 45c, 36c, 27c, 18c and even 9c ... paying well over 1000x bet each time. I low roll often to smack a nice payout and the probability of me hitting that on Space Wars or any other junk low variance netent slot is impossible.
The Game KISS from WMS is more a True Low Variance Slot - Id much rather play that for wagering that any version NetEnt have.
Nate
Personaly im such a lowroller i rarely go down that much before busting. Usually i deposit like 10-20 and play on 0.2-0.4 If i loose half of the deposit i change slot, However when it comes to Starburst i have often had sessions where i win 30-40x that many times i can cashout 100-200 Euros.
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Personally - I hate the Slot
But IF its your cuppa tea and you more importantly Cash Out from your deposits then it makes sense why you would enjoy playing it... Wager On SpotOn
Nate
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I'm sorry, but your comment about the payouts being "IP/account based" has more than qualified you for the coveted tinfoil hat. I believe dunover has some he seldom uses these days that he may be able to lend you.
Honestly....you really need to educate yourself about how slots and RTP ACTUALLY works, or you're destined to lose all enjoyment from your gambling. You could start by reading and learning from those who know what they're on about.
I'm sure you're a nice person, but I stop taking people seriously when I read stuff like you just posted.
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Has anyone ever tried playing Dead or Alive in two windows on the same casino site at the same time?
I have been doing this to speed up the game play. But something very strange happens when the bonus round comes out. ..Try it.
I have been doing this to speed up the game play. But something very strange happens when the bonus round comes out. ..Try it.
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Hysterical. Yes, the first reel of the other slot disappears, then you get a bonus round on BOTH slots getting played out with different reels, but the other slot gives you a ZERO round as opposed to the other you actually get the real one on.
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Hysterical. Yes, the first reel of the other slot disappears, then you get a bonus round on BOTH slots getting played out with different reels, but the other slot gives you a ZERO round as opposed to the other you actually get the real one on.
...and free spin bonus rounds are COMPLETELY random, each spin COMPLETELY independent of the next... Definitely not just eye candy with a pre-determined outcome.
Funny.
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Hysterical. Yes, the first reel of the other slot disappears, then you get a bonus round on BOTH slots getting played out with different reels, but the other slot gives you a ZERO round as opposed to the other you actually get the real one on.
The predetermination of the free spins is tied into the music used on the slot, both are pretty dire.
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...and free spin bonus rounds are COMPLETELY random, each spin COMPLETELY independent of the next... Definitely not just eye candy with a pre-determined outcome.
Funny.
Ah, I might get some foil-hatting in here, because I have investigated this curious matter further and it certainly needs some explanation.
I opened DoA on 3 and 4 screens too. I have worked out what it does. It plays a spin in turn on each opened game, i.e. you will get first spin on top left game, second on top right game, third on bottom left game and fourth on bottom right game etc. The interesting thing is that the cards (wilds) will then appear on all 4 screens the same as if you were playing on one screen i.e. IF you hit say top of reels 3 and 4 first spin, these will 'stick' to the other 3 screens too. At the end of the freespins (which are very quick as with 4 slots open you only get 3 quick ones per slot) EACH slot will give you in winnings whatever events occurred on the 3 spins they each did. Weird. Yet you can get non-freespins wins individually and independently. This suggests the bonus rounds work in a different way, and from some sort of 'pool' separate to the game. Mmmmm. Time to bring in Vinyl.
P.S. Wild Rockets - you can play 3 separate bonus rounds - I tried this by setting 3 slots on autoplay to stop at bonus award and then played all bonus rounds together. No problem (apart from the sheer racket in my headphones lol). Playboy you can too. Yet when I tried another HV game, but an MG one Megaspins BDBA, I was playing freespins on one, when the 3 safes dropped on the second of 3 slots - this crashed them all to grey screens....
In case you ask, I played 3 DoA's on autoplay to stop at freespins to see if I could run 2 bonus rounds at once I had got them on 2 or more slots. As soon as the first one dropped in, it overrode the 'stop at bonus' autoplay setting and just started the freespins in the same odd manner described above, splitting the spins between the 3 slots.......
