Dead or Alive

[catapultaudio]

Definitely some valid points incrediblestuff, and I do agree if it's to be used it should be used with caution and sensibly - although with regards virii, some of the best software available is made by freelance authors (i'm a developer in my day job myself) and to tar all this software with that brush is more than a little unfair - torrents are a different matter, but as with most things IT it's a bit more complicated than that...

Criminals use common well-known piracy dens like the pirate bay et al to spread all kinds of bad stuff in the knowledge it's a sure fire way of getting it onto a whole load of computers, but the torrent mechanism itself is perfectly safe and there are hundreds of perfectly safe private torrent communities around as well where the files available are thoroughly checked.

As ever the best advice is to make sure you have appropriate software installed on your computer to protect you against these threats which can literally come from anywhere in this day and age - even the browsers we all use every day have vulnerabilities found on a regular basis that allow malicious software to get onto our computers regardless of how careful or tech-savvy we are!

Just quickly, with SpeederXP specifically, this is a program which simply increases the speed at which operations are performed on your computer, it doesn't interact with the casino in any way other than causing the requests and sends of data to be executed much more quickly - depending how far you push it, from the casinos side you simply have a very fast computer.

 

[incrediblestuff]

Agreed

some of the best software available is made by freelance authors

Just think of the best virus scanner ever: it was ewido, available for free: then bought and ruined by AVG which also made it partly free..
I use a lot of "free" programs, but softonic, or any other site collecting and offering freeware they did not produce, surrounded by crappy adds, and "free" fixes for your PC, are not on my good list. if i would try some new freeware, i would do some research first.
I am not a beta tester, and also not making my PC available for easy looting

Oh, best all around free ware ever: ccleaner!
Download a version at softonic, and one on the developers site, there might be a difference!

 

[catapultaudio]

Softonic I think is trustworthy but a lot of those sites now force you to use their own download engine which I really hate! My personal favourite is www.filehippo.com as they have very, very quick servers, which is essential if your downloading lots of stuff to do a new machine.

Your absolutely right about their could easily be a difference in copies of freeware on different sites, all this repackaging with MP3 files, browser toolbars and other garbage that even google and adobe are guilty of doing is seriously bad news and when "trusted" names like that are doing it, how can people be expected to realise that similar stuff included with smaller apps is actually malware...?...

A lot of people don't like Windows 8 but a really great thing about it is the Windows store which brings apple like quality checking of third party applications to the windows platform - giving users confidence to try out applications in this way is great news for small developers and I personally think when people realise that Windows 8 brings a mobile phone "app" like experience to their desktop computer they will lap it up and migrate in droves - Windows 8.1 is even better and I'm sure it's going to do well

 

[Nate]

Softonic I think is trustworthy but a lot of those sites now force you to use their own download engine which I really hate!

I noticed this recently. Even if you opt out of changing your search engine or for add-ons they install crap on your system.

I installed one of those last night to try something out. My home page was changed, the search engine and tabs were also affected.

Nate

 

[SubzeroWins]

I've been playing this slot a lot lately because the other netent games have sucked for me
Although i've no data to share with you guys, I did notice that DoA will give you a lot of playtime
For example today i played for like 6 hours on autoplay (was watching a tv series on my 2nd screen )
After that, my net loss was... wait for it.... 1 euro!

 

[PCJACKPOT2008]

I'm done forever with Dead or Alive. Or make that every NetEnt-slot. I've been playing them for many years and one time i've won over 1000x bet.

All my winnings from Microgaming has gone to NetEnt. For example: this past week i've been playing a big higher then I normally do nowadays. €2k deposit total lost with €0,27-€0,9 bets. Yeah, and when I was tilting I raised bet to €9 on Doa and hit freepsins after two spins. Paid a whopping 9x. Not one feature has paid over 100x in a whole week.

DoA has a variance that can't be described. I have done probably over a million spins lifetime on it and never had five wilds on a payline. Only gotten the five extra spins a handful of times. Never seen five scatters either.

This is more whine to NetEnt-slots as a whole. They're absolutely terrible.

 

[Nate]

You're not alone

I have been Bankrolling Netent from MG for months on end now. I have had a hit or two but 90% of the time its losses galore

Nate

 

[PCJACKPOT2008]

I just checked with Live Chat what my RTP was for the last week. 64 %! Yesterday was the worst at 52 % and best one today at 72,5 %.

 

[lotusch]

I'm done forever with Dead or Alive. Or make that every NetEnt-slot. I've been playing them for many years and one time i've won over 1000x bet.

All my winnings from Microgaming has gone to NetEnt. For example: this past week i've been playing a big higher then I normally do nowadays. €2k deposit total lost with €0,27-€0,9 bets. Yeah, and when I was tilting I raised bet to €9 on Doa and hit freepsins after two spins. Paid a whopping 9x. Not one feature has paid over 100x in a whole week.

DoA has a variance that can't be described. I have done probably over a million spins lifetime on it and never had five wilds on a payline. Only gotten the five extra spins a handful of times. Never seen five scatters either.

This is more whine to NetEnt-slots as a whole. They're absolutely terrible.

100% agree with you buddy...
I have played a few good sessions of MG and Netent slots this past 2 weeks...
Nearly every session on MG ended up either in equal money as deposited or I ended up with some nice winnings/profits...

Netent slots,past 2 weeks,bonusses I can remember:

JATB - €2.00 bet - Free Spins - Net Pay €16.80
Gonzo's Quest - €2.00 bet - Free Falls - Net Pay €11.00
Reel Rush - €1.00 bet - Free Spins - Net Pay €9.80

And this was after being down on these slots a good bit of money.
Had a session on Starburst,€2.00-€4.00 spins and after 500 spins or so highest win was a miserable €64.00 or so,hit nothing on the expanding stars.

DOA,last couple of free spins on several casino's 3x-10x bet max payout,can't even get 3 wilds together lol.

Reel Steel,yesterday €200.00 on €1.80 spins,highest win €10.00 and not a single free spins round.


Netent is history for me,I hate those slots so much and I haven't even played them for so long but I already figured out they are absolutely crap compared with other brands like Bally,MG,Aristocrat.

So I can fully understand what you are saying.
I am up a cool 2k in last 2 weeks in several casino's but it could have been 3k+ if I would have ignored Netent slots.

 

[De Beuker]

I'm done forever with Dead or Alive. Or make that every NetEnt-slot. I've been playing them for many years and one time i've won over 1000x bet.

All my winnings from Microgaming has gone to NetEnt. For example: this past week i've been playing a big higher then I normally do nowadays. €2k deposit total lost with €0,27-€0,9 bets. Yeah, and when I was tilting I raised bet to €9 on Doa and hit freepsins after two spins. Paid a whopping 9x. Not one feature has paid over 100x in a whole week.

DoA has a variance that can't be described. I have done probably over a million spins lifetime on it and never had five wilds on a payline. Only gotten the five extra spins a handful of times. Never seen five scatters either.

This is more whine to NetEnt-slots as a whole. They're absolutely terrible.

And I thought I was the most unlucky DOA player ever..

So, can you believe that there's a player who's making a steady profit from DOA for the past 3 years?
Hitting 5 wilds on a payline just about every 2 weeks, sometimes twice a week?
Hitting 5 scatters 17 times?

I have a VERY hard time believing this is down to luck only.
Looks to me like its somehow possible to force a win on this slot. That it indeed remembers your IP.

So,I'm also done with DOA. Havent played it for a while now, dont miss it.
I just dont trust the games randomness anymore.
Lucky streaks simply dont go on forever. They never do.

 

[aceking123]

well have to say over at redbet theyve been a little better for me netent plently of game time & small wins a few 100X bets after a dead couple of weeks

only to get my arse kicked in no less than 5 sessions on there microgaming side of things, it got so bad i asked for logs via live chat i was fuming tbh first real time ive lost the plot in a long time ,they kinda sent them but didnt have anywhere near what i had requested my rtp% over at redbet on mg is just damn right appauling considering the funds of money played via them i can safely say ive had one ok session to where i was up around 300 quid ive tried a fair ammount of spins on a few machines but its just brutal all the time , was going to ask andy for those logs to see how bad it realy is but havnt got around to it , DOA is a machine & half but it should be played not often if you get suckered into it your get burnt .

 

[Tirilej]

I have a VERY hard time believing this is down to luck only.
Looks to me like its somehow possible to force a win on this slot. That it indeed remembers your IP.

Does that mean that you think I should continue to play that slot?
You might could pay me and if I win I share a little with you

 

[dunover]

And I thought I was the most unlucky DOA player ever..

So, can you believe that there's a player who's making a steady profit from DOA for the past 3 years?
Hitting 5 wilds on a payline just about every 2 weeks, sometimes twice a week?
Hitting 5 scatters 17 times?

I have a VERY hard time believing this is down to luck only.
Looks to me like its somehow possible to force a win on this slot. That it indeed remembers your IP.
So,I'm also done with DOA. Havent played it for a while now, dont miss it.
I just dont trust the games randomness anymore.
Lucky streaks simply dont go on forever. They never do.

PM your size, preference for gold/silver with or without antenna.

 

[De Beuker]

Does that mean that you think I should continue to play that slot?
You might could pay me and if I win I share a little with you

I think what you did on DOA is just pure luck.
Nothing else.

And its still peanuts compared to what the other guy does.

 

[De Beuker]

PM your size, preference for gold/silver with or without antenna.

Silver, and ofcourse WITH antenna.

 

[dunover]

Silver, and ofcourse WITH antenna.

I promise you the hat will not know, nor remember, your IP address. Guaranteed IP-memory proof.

 

[aceking123]

I promise you the hat will not know, nor remember, your IP address. Guaranteed IP-memory proof.

seeing as your giving them out please forward me one in gold with a silver antenna

 

[dunover]

seeing as your giving them out please forward me one in gold with a silver antenna

Unfortunately the antenna is part of the mould, not separate, therefore must be the same foil colour as the hat.

 

[SubzeroWins]

I finally hit something on DoA, sadly I was only betting 9 cents a spin But I had fun playing and thats what counts right? First one is 233x bet and second is 428x bet

 

[007sam]

Played this today on 45p for good while, two features both about x10 and me feature on £1.80p at again x10. Right load garbage IMHO.

 

[Mozaik]

Played this today on 45p for good while, two features both about x10 and me feature on £1.80p at again x10. Right load garbage IMHO.

I guess I belong to the DOA losers as well lol. On average 49/50 free spins sessions award me trash - 20x/30x/50x and rarely 100x bet. I've played this slot a lot and untill now only got the 5 wilds in Free spin sessions twice. One time 500x bet (€0,90 bet) and one time 1000x bet (€0,45 bet).

 

[Nate]

DOA is a volatile game - Which I appreciate. I have no issues losing on it. I would prefer playing it to the JUNK that NetEnt spits out every month.

NetEnt seem to believe that a few chickens shaking their asses and you having 10x Bet automatically qualifies you for 20 blank spins.

The junk they spit out - Space Wars, Thief, Starburst, Reel Rush, That stupid submarine game and other games are designed to make you believe via dumb animations that you are actually winning when it takes 20 blank spins to hit 5x bet.

The more I play ALL their other Slots... the more I despise they way they design them. I love DOA and have no issues losing - I have had some good sessions and some bad sessions.

With everything else, NetEnt is intent on ripping a hole through your wallet. Got 50 Free Spins on Reel Rush today, 2.90c win? That was probably from 10 spins paying between 5 and 10c and the other 40 being BLANK.

The only reason NetEnt is spitting out crap is because its making them money - Just like MGS spits out 243 Way slots constantly, they have found something that works for them and they exploit it.

If I ever had a direct line to NetEnt i would say "Yes I know you make Slots to make money but FFS stop making it so blatantly obvious and gift wrapping shit and selling it to us as ice cream."

Nate

 

[aceking123]

ive done ok on a few cant complain realy that much but im thinking you have some valid points nate

 

[whodatrec]

I also noticed this.. My incredible losing streak also begun after i started playing their new games such as: Space wars, Silent run, Reel rush, Fisticuffs and so on.. These games are a joke! As you said Nate its basically giving you a 5x or 10 x win and then BOOM 20-30 blank spins in a row.. Mind you if you get lucky and hit a feature paying around 50x, its going to eat twice the amount back with blank spins and fractional pay outs.

But to me all their slots seem to pay less now than they used to.. Like a regular NetEnt feature used to always pay me around 30-50x bet on a feature. But now its 0-10x bet that seems to be the standard, if you can get the feature at all. And then it goes on these dry spells with 20-30 dead spins if your unlucky. But these new games they keep pushing out keeps getting worse and worse. Lets take Fisticuffs and Real Rush for example. Is it even possible to win a substantial amount on these? To me that really big win just seems so far gone on these slots.

Only slots that iv`e won big on several times are: Gonzo,Thunderfist and JATBS. But these to seem alot tighter these days than they used to.

I think my biggest win on DOA was 500x bet with 5 wilds. So i havent really hit anything amazing on that. I won around 10 000 USD on one single Free Fall bonus on Gonzo once on a 10 USD bet so that would be 1000x bet and thats my biggest win ever.

 

[Nifty29]

I also noticed this.. My incredible losing streak also begun after i started playing their new games such as: Space wars, Silent run, Reel rush, Fisticuffs and so on.. These games are a joke! As you said Nate its basically giving you a 5x or 10 x win and then BOOM 20-30 blank spins in a row.. Mind you if you get lucky and hit a feature paying around 50x, its going to eat twice the amount back with blank spins and fractional pay outs.

But to me all their slots seem to pay less now than they used to.. Like a regular NetEnt feature used to always pay me around 30-50x bet on a feature. But now its 0-10x bet that seems to be the standard, if you can get the feature at all. And then it goes on these dry spells with 20-30 dead spins if your unlucky. But these new games they keep pushing out keeps getting worse and worse. Lets take Fisticuffs and Real Rush for example. Is it even possible to win a substantial amount on these? To me that really big win just seems so far gone on these slots.

Only slots that iv`e won big on several times are: Gonzo,Thunderfist and JATBS. But these to seem alot tighter these days than they used to.

I think my biggest win on DOA was 500x bet with 5 wilds. So i havent really hit anything amazing on that. I won around 10 000 USD on one single Free Fall bonus on Gonzo once on a 10 USD bet so that would be 1000x bet and thats my biggest win ever.

The TRTPs are the same as they always were AFAIK I.e. they do not pay less.

What you're seeing is a trend toward low variance slots that are designed to give you smaller wins more often, which is good for meeting WR, but not if you are after some nice 1000xbet+ hits.

The games you said you have won big on are high variance, which means you WILL hit bigger wins, but they're few and far between. Its the reason why you "think" they "seem" to pay less than before. Without a detailed history or some RTP figures for your play over time, there's no way to tell if you're doing worse then before. If you examined your play history you'd probably be surprised as to how high your RTP actually is in comparison to what you think it might be.

One thing is for sure....the longer you play, the more you will lose, and the more your personal RTP will gravitate towards the TRTP of the slot.