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pinnit2014

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IR actually got a new UI with improved graphics. Plays much smoother than the initial botched HTML5 conversion.

TS2 is in the making! :)

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Playing now; yeah, a massive improvement on that initial horrific version

No autoplay; boo
First foray, no bonus yet with no achievements. I was under the impression this would be bonus daft :p
 

snorky510238

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It’s almost a guarantee slots will be programmed in this way on games where you have to collect tokens or unlock certain things to achieve the freedom of choice or certain enhancements. Your bonus rounds will be using different reel strips once everything is unlocked (well at least that will be the excuse that is considered acceptable).

Imo games absolutely have to play differently, depending on stakes also. Take games like Bonanza for instance that has a bonus frequency on average of about 1 in every 450 spins. It’s not unusual for players to go 2,000 spins without a bonus. Now that’s bad enough on min stake, where depending on the base hits you could have lost 1000x stake.

That means a net loss of £200, bloody annoying, it would piss you off at the time etc, etc but probably not likely to prompt you to complain to anyone of authority.

Take the same scenario with a player playing max bet and they have lost £20,000. Would providers seriously have the games set this way to screw over high rollers, the very players they want to keep?

No of course they wouldn’t but at the same time they wouldn’t want to be exposed to the max “potential” some of these games have at the highest stakes either. Therefore on max bet you will get a softer but still controlled base game but on the flip side in bonus rounds the reel sets available will not allow the same potential as playing on min bet.

People don’t believe these things happen or are possible. Go ahead believe what you want to believe it’s only my opinion and life’s about opinions isn’t it? I am not saying you have to believe it just highlighting that sometimes you have to think outside the box.

Here is another bit of food for thought for the purists to digest. On DOA and as far as I am aware on DOA 2 (only done a few thousand spins) have you ever noticed, how you never see 5oak tens, jacks or queens in the base game. That win is available obviously so if it was totally random you would see it from time to time surely but no never.
 
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Jono777

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Here is another bit of food for thought for the purists to digest. On DOA and as far as I am aware on DOA 2 (only done a few thousand spins) have you ever noticed, how you never see 5oak tens, jacks or queens in the base game. That win is available obviously so if it was totally random you would see it from time to time surely but no never.

This, yes!

Said to the wife and commented on here over the years, exactly as you describe mate!

Also when the HTML5 upgrade came along, the frequency of the 5OAK lower premiums (glass, boots, hats) were more forthcoming than the flash version.

Another thing a 3 reel tease fail (scatter on 1&2 but no feature) will 90% of the time next spin result in a scatter on either 3, 4 or 5. DoA is not the only game which does this, another occurrence which removes "true random" for me from the equation.

I agree with random, but random within defined and pre set parameters for sure ;)
 
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Don't be rigged now

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Bit more on thunderstruck 2, i have noticed that after pressing spin if you a met with a 1-2 second delay then you a guaranteed a bonus tease at the very least but this only occurs on some websites - thought this a strange observation and not like the pause you would get on spinal tap or goonies when you know a feature is incoming.

I enjoy this slot as you can turn a £20 deposit into a couple of hundred quid in just a few spins, granted you haven't unlocked every bonus of course :D
 

Kroffe

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This, yes!

Said to the wife and commented on here over the years, exactly as you describe mate!

Also when the HTML5 upgrade came along, the frequency of the 5OAK lower premiums (glass, boots, hats) were m,ore forthcoming than the flash version.

Another thing a 3rd tease fail (scatter on 1&2 but no feature) will 90% of the time next spin result in a scatter on either 3, 4 or 5. DoA is not the only game which does this, another occurrence which removes "true random" for me from the equation.

I agree with random, but random within defined and pre set parameters for sure ;)
Random, but in a very controlled, predetermined & compensated way.

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Harry_BKK

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It’s almost a guarantee slots will be programmed in this way on games where you have to collect tokens or unlock certain things to achieve the freedom of choice or certain enhancements. Your bonus rounds will be using different reel strips once everything is unlocked (well at least that will be the excuse that is considered acceptable).

Imo games absolutely have to play differently, depending on stakes also. Take games like Bonanza for instance that has a bonus frequency on average of about 1 in every 450 spins. It’s not unusual for players to go 2,000 spins without a bonus. Now that’s bad enough on min stake, where depending on the base hits you could have lost 1000x stake.

That means a net loss of £200, bloody annoying, it would piss you off at the time etc, etc but probably not likely to prompt you to complain to anyone of authority.

Take the same scenario with a player playing max bet and they have lost £20,000. Would providers seriously have the games set this way to screw over high rollers, the very players they want to keep?

No of course they wouldn’t but at the same time they wouldn’t want to be exposed to the max “potential” some of these games have at the highest stakes either. Therefore on max bet you will get a softer but still controlled base game but on the flip side in bonus rounds the reel sets available will not allow the same potential as playing on min bet.

People don’t believe these things happen or are possible. Go ahead believe what you want to believe it’s only my opinion and life’s about opinions isn’t it? I am not saying you have to believe it just highlighting that sometimes you have to think outside the box.

Here is another bit of food for thought for the purists to digest. On DOA and as far as I am aware on DOA 2 (only done a few thousand spins) have you ever noticed, how you never see 5oak tens, jacks or queens in the base game. That win is available obviously so if it was totally random you would see it from time to time surely but no never.

With all due respect but that is some baloney! 1591548787509.png

I lost over 12K on Bonanza playing it for a long session on $20 bets. It didn't play one iota different and no one appeared miraculously to crank up the RTP or whatever just to keep me happy.

This was my best hit during that day:

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Who cares about the frequency of 5OAK 10s, Js or Qs on DOA I or II? They barely cover the bet.
 
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Kroffe

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No Autoplay is probably the version for the UK and Sweden. Don't like it at all. :oops:
Hey, we are big-boys over here when we are gambling.
We are allowed auto-play.

Just no bonuses.
So if anyone wanna trade auto-play for some bonuses im willing to negotiate.
 

Harry_BKK

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Hey, we are big-boys over here when we are gambling.
We are allowed auto-play.

Just no bonuses.
So if anyone wanna trade auto-play for some bonuses im willing to negotiate.

Ooops, sorry, got that wrong... you have the 3-second delay, just as bad IMO. :oops:

I'll give you my bonuses, happily. Problem is, I rarely get some as my country of residence is mostly excluded from those sweet offers. :rolleyes:
 

Kroffe

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Ooops, sorry, got that wrong... you have the 3-second delay, just as bad IMO. :oops:

I'll give you my bonuses, happily. Problem is, I rarely get some as my country of residence is mostly excluded from those sweet offers. :rolleyes:
Alrighty then.
Just give me remote-access to your computer and tell me how many spins you want me to make for you.
You need to specify betsize, losslimit, winlimit etc.

Or you can press:
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and download an autoclicker for your pc.
The downside to using an autoclicker is there is no option to set a loss-limit, only how many spins you want to make.
So i recommend giving me access so i can do the auto-spins uh..manually.
 

snorky510238

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With all due respect but that is some baloney! View attachment 133699

I lost over 12K on Bonanza playing it for a long session on $20 bets. It didn't play one iota different and no one appeared miraculously to crank up the RTP or whatever just to keep me happy.

This was my best hit during that day:

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Who cares about the frequency of 5OAK 10s, Js or Qs on DOA I or II? They barely cover the bet.
You are basing your response on one long session? We are told you can’t make judgments from that you need to millions of spins remember. :rolleyes:

From you post it leans to what I said, as in your best hit was in the base game. As for 5oak low paying symbols “who cares”. Produce evidence that slots aren’t random and that’s the best argument you have. I recommend you take up politics Harry.
 

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People don’t believe these things happen or are possible. Go ahead believe what you want to believe it’s only my opinion and life’s about opinions isn’t it? I am not saying you have to believe it just highlighting that sometimes you have to think outside the box.

That's right and one of few real freedoms we all have, we believe different things and have different opinions and all have right to their own.

(below not any more reply to quoted post but in general this thread)

Of course in developing of slots are many factors like these teasers, two scatters and one next round etc... which are meant to be there to keep them exciting as possible and players to make some patterns when trying to analyze game, these both often keep player interested about game which often also means that player is coming back and deposit.

If slots would just return less than your bet in every spin and only have one huge jackpot win which triggers not very often, there would be really few playing it. If player wouldn't believe having some chance to win, not many would just play games which slowly takes your money. They also would be much less tempting with RTP range 30-40% when you could end up to withdraw something once a year or what ever (easier for KYC though).

WOW, that's a killer headline here... COVID-19 Slots, hmm...
I guess next is going to be Donald Trump Slots.

That maye could be whole serie of slots from different things happened on his time of president and in part 6 or 7 maybe something before and after. Have to throw idea to some developers :D
 

Harry_BKK

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You are basing your response on one long session? We are told you can’t make judgments from that you need to millions of spins remember. :rolleyes:

From you post it leans to what I said, as in your best hit was in the base game. As for 5oak low paying symbols “who cares”. Produce evidence that slots aren’t random and that’s the best argument you have. I recommend you take up politics Harry.

You think I played Bonanza or other slots for that matter only once on $10 or $20 bets? :rolleyes:

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DOA and DOA2 have both roughly 54% of the RTP for bet line wins in the base game. Due to the relatively high pays for the premiums, you won't have many 5OAK of the low symbols. It's simple math, really.
 

snorky510238

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Yes I sort of get that but when you have more chance of hitting 5 scatters than 5oak tens, then it being random has to be questioned.


It’s not that you see very few 5oak low paying symbols in the base game, it’s that you never see any. Obviously if it was using a rng and every symbol position stop was available you would hit them at some point. Which leans towards the assumption slots are programmed and that is missing from the possibilities.
 

Gaz237

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How pedantic and welcoming are you?
It seems that just about everyone who joins this site and posts these days gets the same treatment then never returns. Its almost as though a few people want the forum for their own little playground

I don't agree.

It's become very tedious of late, the amount of newbies joining up to claim slots are rigged.

The OP was talking crap anyway and doubled down on any creditworthiness by claiming to be up on slots over the years, like it added merit to justify his claim. :rolleyes:
 

Harry_BKK

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Yes I sort of get that but when you have more chance of hitting 5 scatters than 5oak tens, then it being random has to be questioned.


It’s not that you see very few 5oak low paying symbols in the base game, it’s that you never see any. Obviously if it was using a rng and every symbol position stop was available you would hit them at some point. Which leans towards the assumption slots are programmed and that is missing from the possibilities.

Please observe the game for a while. There are not many instances of the low symbols on reel 4 and even less on reel 5. Simple math, again!

The scatter pay on DOA and DOA2 is roughly 17.5% of the RTP and is one of the attractions to play it. Scatter pays on "normal" slots are only about 5% of the RTP
 
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Casinomeister

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Really?

Someone signs up and posts some wild conspiracy theory of dozens of game providers and hundreds of casino operators ganging up on players during the lockdown, then makes some wild claim to have lost 300 bucks in 10 mins on 60p bets and you are saying I am pedantic? In what world are you in? View attachment 133691
This is a new member, and it should not take guts to post a new thread for fear of being reprimanded my an oldtimer. Please try to be a bit more welcoming. Not everyone has the same experiences as you have. Thank you.
 

sufferinsilence

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You would need a speed of 3,000 spins/hour and 0% RTP to achieve that feat. Good luck with that. View attachment 133689

FYI, TS2 runs max at 1,500 spins/hour if you have it on Quickspin, the default speed is roughly 600 - 750 spins/hour. Convert that to your 10 mins @ 60p and you would have done 250 spins on high speed and 100-125 spins on standard speed. At 0% RTP, you would have lost GBP150 on high speed and GBP60-75 on standard speed. You might want to revisit that statement!

I also see that your are suffering from the "I have gambled for years and I am up" misconception syndrome. View attachment 133687

I'll have you know that I am up from gambling! Albeit from sportsbetting.

And if I didn't play slots... Oh well.

:rolleyes: :p
 
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