COVID-19 Slots

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First of all i am new to here and have created this account to get some opinions from your prospective of how slots have been playing during the lockdown period. It is no surprise that betting shops and casinos etc have had to shut their doors during this pandemic which solely leaves the majority of their income to online play. Now, i strongly believe that slots have somewhat been adjusted to compensate for this lack of income to recover more money from online players during this period. When websites lower their RTP it is usually known by players via website announcements, people talking etc although over this period it has probably gone on everywhere. I have spoke to a couple of people who agree with me that the slots are not behaving as they used to before lockdown and that this is not just the result of lower RTP games but something is going on in the background that we are not being told about. Of course it is very hard to prove this as you will always be met with the slots are random or its all down to a RNG etc but i would not be surprised if something is released one day. Now i'm not going on one due to big losses etc, i'm actually up over my years of playing but i feel at this moment in time players are getting ripped off and there could/should be some sort of light shed on this.

In a somewhat unrelated topic, i enjoy playing thunderstruck 2 but i have noticed when you unlock all the bonus' on the game on one website the game will become extremely difficult to bonus eg ripping £300 in about 10 mins on 60p stakes. If i start fresh on another website the game will freely bonus like it wants you to experience the other bonus rounds you can unlock, i have done this on about 5 different websites so there is clearly a pattern although it will of course be denied. I have reached out to the thunderstruck 2 provider for a comment on this.
 

Harry_BKK

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First of all i am new to here and have created this account to get some opinions from your prospective of how slots have been playing during the lockdown period. It is no surprise that betting shops and casinos etc have had to shut their doors during this pandemic which solely leaves the majority of their income to online play. Now, i strongly believe that slots have somewhat been adjusted to compensate for this lack of income to recover more money from online players during this period. When websites lower their RTP it is usually known by players via website announcements, people talking etc although over this period it has probably gone on everywhere. I have spoke to a couple of people who agree with me that the slots are not behaving as they used to before lockdown and that this is not just the result of lower RTP games but something is going on in the background that we are not being told about. Of course it is very hard to prove this as you will always be met with the slots are random or its all down to a RNG etc but i would not be surprised if something is released one day. Now i'm not going on one due to big losses etc, i'm actually up over my years of playing but i feel at this moment in time players are getting ripped off and there could/should be some sort of light shed on this.

In a somewhat unrelated topic, i enjoy playing thunderstruck 2 but i have noticed when you unlock all the bonus' on the game on one website the game will become extremely difficult to bonus eg ripping £300 in about 10 mins on 60p stakes. If i start fresh on another website the game will freely bonus like it wants you to experience the other bonus rounds you can unlock, i have done this on about 5 different websites so there is clearly a pattern although it will of course be denied. I have reached out to the thunderstruck 2 provider for a comment on this.

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brianmon

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I've got to say, the new HTML5 version of TSII is playing and paying really bad. It literally eats money.
The first HTML5 version of IR was the same, although they have now updated it, and it seems to be paying and playing more like the original Flash version did.
 

pinnit2014

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Run, run for your life; the eye rolls are out.

And, though denied, I’m sure Harry is employed by an international organisation and will not think twice about utilising his Jason Bourne skill set.

Just seen Brian posting; I was really eager when heard that IR was coming to mobile etc but it really sucked. Don’t know if it was clunkier and slower that gave me the impression, at least, that it was as tight as a gnats arse, but saw some early grim sessions.

Might give it another go and confirm via a substantial spin sample of 200 spins.
 

Harry_BKK

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In a somewhat unrelated topic, i enjoy playing thunderstruck 2 but i have noticed when you unlock all the bonus' on the game on one website the game will become extremely difficult to bonus eg ripping £300 in about 10 mins on 60p stakes. If i start fresh on another website the game will freely bonus like it wants you to experience the other bonus rounds you can unlock, i have done this on about 5 different websites so there is clearly a pattern although it will of course be denied. I have reached out to the thunderstruck 2 provider for a comment on this.

You would need a speed of 3,000 spins/hour and 0% RTP to achieve that feat. Good luck with that. 1591543392405.png

FYI, TS2 runs max at 1,500 spins/hour if you have it on Quickspin, the default speed is roughly 600 - 750 spins/hour. Convert that to your 10 mins @ 60p and you would have done 250 spins on high speed and 100-125 spins on standard speed. At 0% RTP, you would have lost GBP150 on high speed and GBP60-75 on standard speed. You might want to revisit that statement!

I also see that your are suffering from the "I have gambled for years and I am up" misconception syndrome. 1591543155035.png
 
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bamberfishcake

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I think if you are seeing any effects it is a result of bad luck.

Still, clutching at straws, I doubt RTP would be noticeable for a good year or so and only really noticeable if you keep a record of deposit and losses for the past year or so and the coming year.

Even then you may have a lucky year and individual effects of RTP will be hard to prove either way. Even though we know there is less in the pot for players and more for casinos if using lower RTP.

Regarding TS2 I did experience a game, cant remember what its called, that dropped and dropped and dropped until you completed the storyline then bonuses seemed sparce. Another member also commented similar.

Now I am not saying this is the case but i do wonder if a slot could be made this way and still meet testing requirements.

Or, again, you may have just experienced a whole lot of bad luck following a whole lot of good.
 

Harry_BKK

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Run, run for your life; the eye rolls are out.

And, though denied, I’m sure Harry is employed by an international organisation and will not think twice about utilising his Jason Bourne skill set.

Just seen Brian posting; I was really eager when heard that IR was coming to mobile etc but it really sucked. Don’t know if it was clunkier and slower that gave me the impression, at least, that it was as tight as a gnats arse, but saw some early grim sessions.

Might give it another go and confirm via a substantial spin sample of 200 spins.

IR actually got a new UI with improved graphics. Plays much smoother than the initial botched HTML5 conversion.

TS2 is in the making! :)

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mack341

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I agree about Thunderstruck 2, the bonuses do seem to land more frequently at the start. playboy not so much. Slots do appear to have patterns, loads of bonuses and then none is one, 20 dead spins on the bounce is another you can experience.

I think pseudo random is the best description, you can still have fun and excitement though. But always be careful, set limits and appreciate the wins is the best long term approach [ something I've failed to do myself :oops: ] short term you can get lucky ignoring that but the variance/volatility will catch up with you in the end.
 

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I'm almost 100% sure that lockdowns have much bigger impact to people psychology than slots behavior. Don't really sure how/why you would start some big development project when you realize that pandemia and lockdowns dropped from sky.

Without any tweaking and be just rigged as before lockdown should be sufficient for providers/casinos as volumes have increased. If they have that spoken long time strategy to make slots more evil and smarter step by step (not speaking about public things like RTP:s but what some players have expressed), why to take some quick action which potentially put your long term plan in danger when you suddenly change it?

With these increases in deposits, there shouldn't be need more than keep on working with that longtime plan for everything connected to everywhere to give personalized journey to all players, take from some and give others which are different part of their journey etc... and what ever else there's planned.

Not that actively playing slots that would be really in these, but getting updates from here from latest trends (see how long provider people keep denying everything, one evening one have few drinks too much and share whole plan with me).

edit: Just to add, it's quite easy to prove if there are any remarkable changes, keep tracking all your gameplay always and differences are not hard to spot if something have permanently changed.
 

Harry_BKK

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I agree about Thunderstruck 2, the bonuses do seem to land more frequently at the start. playboy not so much. Slots do appear to have patterns, loads of bonuses and then none is one, 20 dead spins on the bounce is another you can experience.

I think pseudo random is the best description, you can still have fun and excitement though. But always be careful, set limits and appreciate the wins is the best long term approach [ something I've failed to do myself :oops: ] short term you can get lucky ignoring that but the variance/volatility will catch up with you in the end.

That is a complete misconception, please visit my first Remarkable Day at VS thread and have a look at how much TS2 contributed to those huge wins, playing up to $15/spin. And I played that slot in every session ever since it was released in 2010.

TS2 just like IR can both be "stubborn" at times. Nothing different to any other slots. Nothing unusual at all.
 
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geordiecolin

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You would need a speed of 3,000 spins/hour and 0% RTP to achieve that feat. Good luck with that. View attachment 133689

FYI, TS2 runs max at 1,500 spins/hour if you have it on Quickspin, the default speed is roughly 600 - 750 spins/hour. Convert that to your 10 mins @ 60p and you would have done 250 spins on high speed and 100-125 spins on standard speed. At 0% RTP, you would have lost GBP150 on high speed and GBP60-75 on standard speed. You might want to revisit that statement!

I also see that your are suffering from the "I have gambled for years and I am up" misconception syndrome. View attachment 133687
How pedantic and welcoming are you?
It seems that just about everyone who joins this site and posts these days gets the same treatment then never returns. Its almost as though a few people want the forum for their own little playground
 

mack341

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That is a complete misconception, please visit my first Remarkable Day at VS thread and have a look at how much TS2 contributed to those huge wins, playing up to $15/spin. And I played that slot in every session ever since it was released in 2010.

TS2 just like IR can both be "stubborn" at times. Nothing different to any other slots. Nothing unusual at all.

I've been meaning to read that thread from start for a long time, one day I'll get myself a flask of coffee made up and settle down to a good read.

I'm only going from my experience, I noticed a similar thing on gorillas gone wild and cleopatra plus, once you got everything fully opened the bonus frequency changes.

Btw which bonus feature do you prefer in TS2? Loki has given me a few decent wins recently. I have also lost £100+ on 30p (and then raised to 60p) in very quick time. It is surprising to me how fast this game can wipe a balance on low stakes.
 

Harry_BKK

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How pedantic and welcoming are you?
It seems that just about everyone who joins this site and posts these days gets the same treatment then never returns. Its almost as though a few people want the forum for their own little playground

Really?

Someone signs up and posts some wild conspiracy theory of dozens of game providers and hundreds of casino operators ganging up on players during the lockdown, then makes some wild claim to have lost 300 bucks in 10 mins on 60p bets and you are saying I am pedantic? In what world are you in? 1591545962360.png
 
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