Corona virus - Covid 19 discussion

[Webzcas]

If you don't say no to the mask then you are compliant with those forcing to wear them. Not only do they cause more harm than good, the loss of freedom to choose is a bigger issue. I do not wear one and won't. My body my choice. Had covid, my immune system did its job as always.

If you don't want to wear a mask you do not have to and legally you do not have to prove a medical exemption. Indeed if wearing a mask makes you feel anxious in any way, then right there is your exemption from wearing one.

I wear one as I cannot be bothered with any potential hassle I may receive. In short I do not need to attract any grief, especially as wearing one does not bother me as such.

Although as I now have 'Super Immunity' it makes no difference lol

 

[geordiecolin]

wtf

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[justdoit]

I don't watch much about covi19 too many stories not sure what's the truth, too much fake news about covi19 (MASS MURDER very fake news)

 

[Kroffe]

Either that funeral director has seen Dealers posts, or that funeral director is dealer.
'Everyone will die' 'this is just like WW2' 'if you dont take the vaccine they will kill you' etc.

So hes saying everyone whos had the vaccine will die within 5 years, and the others will be led to camps and killed.
But i never heard him explain the reason for it, like what the goal was, and why all the killing was needed.
What is Gates & Bezos going to do when they are literally the only people left alive? Orgie?
Will there even be enough people left on the planet for a proper one once all the killing is finished?

Also, he makes it sound like people that get the vaccine will live longer (but no more than 5 years of course )

 

[justdoit]

Either that funeral director has seen Dealers posts, or that funeral director is dealer.
'Everyone will die' 'this is exactly like WW2' 'if you dont take the vaccine they will kill you' etc.

So hes saying everyone whos had the vaccine will die within 5 years, and the others will be led to camps and killed.
But i never heard him explain the reason for it, like what the goal was, and why all the killing was needed.
What is Gates & Bezos going to do when they are literally the only people left alive? Orgie?
Will there even be enough people left on the planet for a proper one once all the killing is finished?

Also, he makes it sound like people that get the vaccine will live longer (but no more than 5 years of course )

I had 3 covi19 Vaccine never felt better ?

 

[Kroffe]

I had 3 covi19 Vaccine never felt better ?

According to Looney, the funeral director, you will now die within 5 years.
But if you dont take the vaccines they will just drag you to a death camp and kill you, so the vaccines really are the superior choice here.

He has a very fitting last name.

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"someone deranged and possibly dangerous"

 

[goatwack]

Either that funeral director has seen Dealers posts, or that funeral director is dealer.
'Everyone will die' 'this is just like WW2' 'if you dont take the vaccine they will kill you' etc.

So hes saying everyone whos had the vaccine will die within 5 years, and the others will be led to camps and killed.
But i never heard him explain the reason for it, like what the goal was, and why all the killing was needed.
What is Gates & Bezos going to do when they are literally the only people left alive? Orgie?
Will there even be enough people left on the planet for a proper one once all the killing is finished?

Also, he makes it sound like people that get the vaccine will live longer (but no more than 5 years of course )

I've often wondered what the point of mass-culling would actually be, as it ultimately seems rather counter- productive.

Assuming 'they' have the desired 200,000 population, it's those measly numbers that would ensure the rich don't stay very rich for long. It is after all the unwashed masses that are needed to keep those 'more fortunate' wealthy.

That is, unless we are to believe that Gates, Fauci & Santa Klaus Shwab will be maintaining transport infrastructure, businesses, health, education, research etc all on their lonesome. Just imagine it will you......Boris as toilet cleaner

There's a difference between actively and openly murdering millions in plain sight and wanting populations to go down. I want populations to go down, that doesn't make me a eugenicist. I suggest best starting point would be an education programme or two about stemming poorer peoples of the world to partake in less procreation proclivities, and so then we have more people dying naturally than are being brought into the world. Ta-da!

*p.s I have these 'discussions' all the time with the missus, so this is rather refreshing being able to vent. Problem is when confronted with alternative viewpoints, these 'sceptics' tend to double-down on their views that all is set in stone, and that they are merely forewarning end times. So thankyou for the therapy

^ (let's hope she doesn't read that)

 

[Kroffe]

I've often wondered what the point of mass-culling would actually be, as it ultimately seems rather counter- productive.

Assuming 'they' have the desired 200,000 population, it's those measly numbers that would ensure the rich don't stay very rich for long. It is after all the unwashed masses that are needed to keep those 'more fortunate' wealthy.

That is, unless we are to believe that Gates, Fauci & Santa Klaus Shwab will be maintaining transport infrastructure, businesses, health, education, research etc all on their lonesome. Just imagine it will you......Boris as toilet cleaner

There's a difference between actively and openly murdering millions in plain sight and wanting populations to go down. I want populations to go down, that doesn't make me a eugenicist. I suggest best starting point would be an education programme or two about stemming poorer peoples of the world to partake in less procreation proclivities, and so then we have more people dying naturally than are being brought into the world. Ta-da!

*p.s I have these 'discussions' all the time with the missus, so this is rather refreshing being able to vent. Problem is when confronted with alternative viewpoints, these 'sceptics' tend to double-down on their views that all is set in stone, and that they are merely forewarning end times. So thankyou for the therapy

^ (let's hope she doesn't read that)

Like you say, it doesnt make much sense for the rich to just straight up murder all the people that are making them rich.
Same goes for the theory that this is all just big pharma milking the pandemic to make money.
You dont make money by killing the people buying your products, it just does not make any sense.

Besides, i found a loophole to the whole thing.
Get 2 jabs, go back a couple pages in this thread and find the chinese vaccine detox and voila, Gates and the gang think you are set to die from the vaccines so they wont send the death squads after you, and you obviously wont die from the vaccines any longer after taking the cure for the vaccine.

After 5 years is up and you are still alive, Gates and the gang will now think you are immortal and probaly leave you alone.
Or like hire you to do poor people stuff because everyone that was doing those things to keep the world spinning are dead except for you of course.


Im not sure how much i believe that Looney video, but i did get some use out of it anyway.
Looking at a channel that uploaded those videos i did find some other very credible ones.

"1992 BARCELONA OLYMPICS OPENING CEREMONY AND THE COVID-19 CONNECTION"​

 

[bamberfishcake]

Whilst the idea of a mass cull seems preposterous to me.

Megalomania springs to mind.

I don't think Fauci is one to worry about and believe he is more of a puppet than anything else, I don't think people like Bill Gates are as concerned with making more money as they are about having power and influence. They have the money, that won't change, they don't want the end days but they do want to display their power and dominance, almost like puffing their chests out with an 'I know best' persona, almost like the world would be a better place if those stupid people were more like me, and then they probably start to look at what their influence can do, rather than being content with their achievements.

If you are in a position to change the world and influence governments and populations, the temptation to use that power for what you think might be of benefit to mankind and the earth must be alluring.

 

[Kroffe]

Whilst the idea of a mass cull seems preposterous to me.

Megalomania springs to mind.

I don't think Fauci is one to worry about and believe he is more of a puppet than anything else, I don't think people like Bill Gates are as concerned with making more money as they are about having power and influence. They have the money, that won't change, they don't want the end days but they do want to display their power and dominance, almost like puffing their chests out with an 'I know best' persona, almost like the world would be a better place if those stupid people were more like me, and then they probably start to look at what their influence can do, rather than being content with their achievements.

If you are in a position to change the world and influence governments and populations, the temptation to use that power for what you think might be of benefit to mankind and the earth must be alluring.

I think i would be more inclined to be like some of the rich Saudis.
A couple lions&tigers as pets, rifles made out of gold, and last but not least, 18p (yes, 18p) spins on Doa.

 

[justdoit]

According to Looney, the funeral director, you will now die within 5 years.
But if you dont take the vaccines they will just drag you to a death camp and kill you, so the vaccines really are the superior choice here.

He has a very fitting last name.

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"someone deranged and possibly dangerous"

I am sure Santa will save me ?

 

[justdoit]

maybe Netflix will tell us the truth

 

[geordiecolin]

Either that funeral director has seen Dealers posts, or that funeral director is dealer.
'Everyone will die' 'this is just like WW2' 'if you dont take the vaccine they will kill you' etc.

So hes saying everyone whos had the vaccine will die within 5 years, and the others will be led to camps and killed.
But i never heard him explain the reason for it, like what the goal was, and why all the killing was needed.
What is Gates & Bezos going to do when they are literally the only people left alive? Orgie?
Will there even be enough people left on the planet for a proper one once all the killing is finished?

Also, he makes it sound like people that get the vaccine will live longer (but no more than 5 years of course )

I was interested in his incites from his own experiences not his speculations. His predictions or make me shudder. There are a number of Funeral Directors who have echoed what he had to say where his experiences

 

[geordiecolin]

 

[Kroffe]

I was interested in his incites from his own experiences not his speculations. His predictions or make me shudder. There are a number of Funeral Directors who have echoed what he had to say where his experiences

Well according to him, his personal experience is that doctors and nurses have told him they are euthanizing the elderly, and that they know the vaccine is deadly but they keep giving it to people.
Just sounds a bit far fetched to me, and thats without including the things he says that are just batshit crazy.
The 'i have spoken too suuuuper many experts about this' does not carry much weight without any sort of proof at all.

So either there are thousands upon thousands of doctors and nurses willing to keep euthanizing elderly and keep quiet about it, and not only that, they know about the vaccine being 'death juice' but keep giving it too people.
So the majority of people working with medicine are psycopaths or Looney is a bit looney and is making things up.
I know what i think.

 

[geordiecolin]

Well according to him, his personal experience is that doctors and nurses have told him they are euthanizing the elderly, and that they know the vaccine is deadly but they keep giving it to people.
Just sounds a bit far fetched to me, and thats without including the things he says that are just batshit crazy.
The 'i have spoken too suuuuper many experts about this' does not carry much weight without any sort of proof at all.

So either there are thousands upon thousands of doctors and nurses willing to keep euthanizing elderly and keep quiet about it, and not only that, they know about the vaccine being 'death juice' but keep giving it too people.
So the majority of people working with medicine are psycopaths or Looney is a bit looney and is making things up.
I know what i think.

Our government bought enough sedatives that are used in the last days of life that would normally last years and have had to order much more. I have heard stories of the elderly being given do not resus orders and nil by mouth from folk I worked with. His experiences of things not adding up lead folk like him to seek answers from conspiracy sights.
His experiences and people like him are worth monitoring over the coming months. Critical thinking is listening and making your own mind up

 

[Kroffe]

Our government bought enough sedatives that are used in the last days of life that would normally last years and have had to order much more. I have heard stories of the elderly being given do not resus orders and nil by mouth from folk I worked with. His experiences of things not adding up lead folk like him to seek answers from conspiracy sights.
His experiences and people like him are worth monitoring over the coming months. Critical thinking is listening and making your own mind up

But thats what im saying, to me what he is saying sounds very far fetched.
I did not make my mind up about it before listening to him.

Like why would people confess murders to him?
They keep doing it rather than quit their jobs like a sane person would, but still feel the need to confess their crimes to someone that could put them in jail.
And its not just a few that would notice this, literally all funeral directors and a shitload of doctors and nurses would see this pattern of overdoses and weird deaths, so is everyone else just keeping quiet about it?
To me it does not add up.

 

[geordiecolin]

But thats what im saying, to me it what he is saying sounds very far fetched.
I did not make my mind up about it before listening to him.

Like why would people confess murders to him?
They keep doing it rather than quit their jobs like a sane person would, but still feel the need to confess their crimes to someone that could put them in jail.
And its not just a few that would notice this, literally all funeral directors and a shitload of doctors and nurses would see this pattern of overdoses and weird deaths, so is everyone else just keeping quiet about it?
To me it does not add up.

Doctors issued NBM and do not resus orders over the phone in the UK and in the nursing home where I heard these stories from the staff and those diktats where foisted on GP's by their superiors.

 

[Kroffe]

Doctors issued NBM and do not resus orders over the phone in the UK and in the nursing home where I heard these stories from the staff and those diktats where foisted on GP's by their superiors.

To me it sounds unlikely that the vast majority would just start murdering the elderly because they got told to do so.
But like you say, everyone has to make their own mind up what to believe, i think we will have to agree to disagree about this.

 

[goatwack]

We don't agree to disagree round these parts. Just keep calm and carry on gentlemen ?

 

[justdoit]

if you can prove it you will get £120.000

 

[justdoit]

last night I roll one longer than oxford street ? I start playing slots every slot was pay me 1000x 2000x 3000x till I wake up this morning I find my balance 0 ?

 

[sufferinsilence]

 

[goatwack]

Can't fathom how he'd take this angle and proclaim himself a saviour of the nation - I thought he was going for another run at the presidency. D'oh!

 

[Kroffe]

'I came up with a vaccine...with three vaccines, all are very very good

- Trump'

What a guy.

 

[justdoit]

TB was much bigger than Covi19 in the 1930s and they need over 10 years to find a vaccine..
By the dawn of the 19th century, tuberculosis—or consumption—had killed one in seven of all people that had ever lived.
we should be very luck they made vaccine so fast

 

[geordiecolin]

Can't fathom how he'd take this angle and proclaim himself a saviour of the nation - I thought he was going for another run at the presidency. D'oh!

I hope he doesn't run. The political thread would have a bloody good workout

 

[Kroffe]

Name one thing that Democrats and Trumps knees have in common.

I hope he doesn't run.

 

[geordiecolin]

4th jabs are booked in for March in Nottingham

 

[geordiecolin]

Name one thing that Democrats and Trumps knees have in common.

I dunno?

 

[Kroffe]

I dunno?

I included the answer in the previous post. =)

 

[Kroffe]

Would probably be a good time for a third party to run.
I think people are pretty tired of both Trump&Biden.

 

[goatwack]

Maybe a coalition of QAnon and Flat Earthers? Call it the Common Sense Party ?

 

[Kroffe]

Maybe a coalition of QAnon and Flat Earthers? Call it the Common Sense Party ?

The flat earthers have been growing in numbers recently.
I hear they have members all around the globe.

 

[goatwack]

They need to be rounded up.

Then blasted into space. Where they can see the error of their ways ?

 

[geordiecolin]

Maybe a coalition of QAnon and Flat Earthers? Call it the Common Sense Party ?

I'm quite taken by your new profile picture. Velcro friction springs to mind

 

[sufferinsilence]

 

[dionysus]

We don't agree to disagree round these parts. Just keep calm and carry on gentlemen ?

 

[mack341]

Croatian footballer Marin Cacic tragically dies aged 23 following collapse in training​

This is going beyond the elephant in the room, do pro vax folk really think there is no connection, or frightened to admit one? The article doesn't mention whether he has had a covid jab, they don't even want to allude to it, or say what some are thinking. Fancy being that beholden to something all discussion or questions are forbidden every time a fit sportsmen collapses or worse dies.

 

[geordiecolin]

 

[Kroffe]

Croatian footballer Marin Cacic tragically dies aged 23 following collapse in training​

This is going beyond the elephant in the room, do pro vax folk really think there is no connection, or frightened to admit one? The article doesn't mention whether he has had a covid jab, they don't even want to allude to it, or say what some are thinking. Fancy being that beholden to something all discussion or questions are forbidden every time a fit sportsmen collapses or worse dies.

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"To further understand the scale of the problem, a study, commissioned by FIFA and carried out by Saarland University, named the FIFA Sudden Death Report (FIFA-SDR) was published in 2020.[7] The report recorded worldwide deaths attributed to Sudden cardiac arrest or other unexplained sudden death while playing (or shortly after playing) football between 2014 and 2018. There were 614 cases during the four-year period. In the majority of cases where an autopsy was carried out, the cause of death was Coronary Heart Disease."

Does seems slightly higher than the average when looking at the 'selected deaths' whatever that means, not by much tho.
And if its caused by the vaccines, you would think the difference would be bigger considering how many people have taken it, no?

17 in 2021 with most common cause being heart failure in some way.
In the years leading up to 2021 there are many with 10-15, also heart failure as the most common cause.

Is it something new, or are people trying to create links that are not there because they have other agendas?

 

[Kroffe]

I dont know how the vaccine rollout looked in other countries, but not many had it in Jan-Feb here.
And if you look 4-6 months later when a shitload more people would have gotten the vaccine, the deaths/month is actually lower.
Maybe the vaccine is saving people from heart attacks, not causing heart attacks.

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Somewhere around 1 in 100 is born with some sort of heart defect, and about 25% or 1 in 4 out of those are born with a serious defect.
A good way to find out if you have a heart defect is to put the heart under considerable strain by running 90 minutes chasing a ball.

 

[mack341]

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"To further understand the scale of the problem, a study, commissioned by FIFA and carried out by Saarland University, named the FIFA Sudden Death Report (FIFA-SDR) was published in 2020.[7] The report recorded worldwide deaths attributed to Sudden cardiac arrest or other unexplained sudden death while playing (or shortly after playing) football between 2014 and 2018. There were 614 cases during the four-year period. In the majority of cases where an autopsy was carried out, the cause of death was Coronary Heart Disease."

Does seems slightly higher than the average, not by much tho.
And if its caused by the vaccines, you would think the difference would be bigger considering how many people have taken it, no?

17 in 2021 with most common cause being heart failure in some way.
In the years leading up to 2021 there are many with 10-15, also heart failure as the most common cause.

Is it something new, or are people trying to create links that are not there because they have other agendas?

614 professional league footballers - not pie munching and fry ups, washed down with a few pints, sunday leaguers?

My agenda is to question the force fed, mustn't question msm narrative, on the other hand the affected players in question are not blaming the vax - yet.

I can remember only two from the premier league, that's 30 years, it could be coincidence but I think not as links to heart inflammation in young boys has been admitted with the pfizer iirc. Still rare but unless it's accepted as a risk will not be looked into fully by the makers, who are making a mint.

 

[sufferinsilence]

614 professional league footballers - not pie munching and fry ups, washed down with a few pints, sunday leaguers?

My agenda is to question the force fed, mustn't question msm narrative, on the other hand the affected players in question are not blaming the vax - yet.

I can remember only two from the premier league, that's 30 years, it could be coincidence but I think not as links to heart inflammation in young boys has been admitted with the pfizer iirc. Still rare but unless it's accepted as a risk will not be looked into fully by the makers, who are making a mint.

The more people die from their vaccines or other drugs the less customers they have in the future... Would be stupid to kill them off like that

 

[mack341]

I dont know how the vaccine rollout looked in other countries, but not many had it in Jan-Feb here.
And if you look 4-6 months later when a shitload more people would have gotten the vaccine, the deaths/month is actually lower.
Maybe the vaccine is saving people from heart attacks, not causing heart attacks.

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Somewhere around 1 in 100 is born with some sort of heart defect, and about 25% or 1 in 4 out of those are born with a serious defect.
A good way to find out if you have a heart defect is to put the heart under considerable strain by running 90 minutes chasing a ball.

Is there a similar page for years before the vax rollours? It looks like a big list, 4-6 months after feb is probably off season for most?

It's really the young and active age players that are of interest with this potential issue.

 

[mack341]

The more people die from their vaccines or other drugs the less customers they have in the future... Would be stupid to kill them off like that

You could say that about any meds linked to serious adverse effects or death, even an acne med has been linked to suicide, it's not normally the makers leading the effort to look for these risks.

 

[Kroffe]

Is there a similar page for years before the vax rollours? It looks like a big list, 4-6 months after feb is probably off season for most?

It's really the young and active age players that are of interest with this potential issue.

Have you looked at it from the other side?
Covid also causes vascular issues, so could an increase not just simply be from people that have had Covid?
Not done any reading regarding that myself, but maybe you have since you seem to have been reading about covid related heart failures.

If there has been an increase in young people dying on the fields, did it start with the pandemic or with the vaccines?
Not trying to defend msm or shoot down questions in any way, but there are alot of people seemingly fighting to make any connection they can between the vaccine and deaths, no matter how vague the link may be.

Same as you said that jabbed people may be scared to admit a connection between vaccine and death, i think anti-vaxers are scared to admit that the virus actually kills people aswell.
And i said 'aswell' because i know there have been deaths linked to the different vaccines, and a much higher % of deaths when compared with other vaccines.

 

[geordiecolin]

I dont know how the vaccine rollout looked in other countries, but not many had it in Jan-Feb here.
And if you look 4-6 months later when a shitload more people would have gotten the vaccine, the deaths/month is actually lower.
Maybe the vaccine is saving people from heart attacks, not causing heart attacks.

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Somewhere around 1 in 100 is born with some sort of heart defect, and about 25% or 1 in 4 out of those are born with a serious defect.
A good way to find out if you have a heart defect is to put the heart under considerable strain by running 90 minutes chasing a ball.

Around 6 years ago during an unrelated operation my heart went haywire and a 45 minute op ended up taking 4 hours. When I came around I was informed that I had a condition called Wolff Parkinson White Syndrome which I had been born with. I had always been quite sporty. During my last sports day at school I was determined to beat the best runner at school who was a cocky fecker. He just beat me in the mile and we where half a lap ahead of the others and I collapsed on the line with a racing heart.
Before that op I ran,played squash was at the gym 4/5 time a week. I was told that I could have died at any point during my life due to it so yeah, conditions can go undetected.
An ablation made my heart as good as new

 

[Kroffe]

Around 6 years ago during an unrelated operation my heart went haywire and a 45 minute op ended up taking 4 hours. When I came around I was informed that I had a condition called Wolff Parkinson White Syndrome which I had been born with. I had always been quite sporty. During my last sports day at school I was determined to beat the best runner at school who was a cocky fecker. He just beat me in the mile and we where half a lap ahead of the others and I collapsed on the line with a racing heart.
Before that op I ran,played squash was at the gym 4/5 time a week. I was told that I could have died at any point during my life due to it so yeah, conditions can go undetected.
An ablation made my heart as good as new

Watched a player collapse with what later turned out to be a heart attack when i was 14 (may have been 15)
A player from the other team went up for a header and just blacked out mid air.
He just sort of ragdolled to the ground and everyones first thought was that he somehow got knocked out by the ball, but he didnt wake up.
Very eerie.

Since he was from another team i never heard much more detail than the fact that it was related to his heart in some way, and that he did not die from it. He had to give up playing tho.

 

[geordiecolin]

Watched a player collapse with what later turned out to be a heart attack when i was 14 (may have been 15)
A player from the other team went up for a header and just blacked out mid air.
He just sort of ragdolled to the ground and everyones first thought was that he somehow got knocked out by the ball, but he didnt wake up.
Very eerie.

Since he was from another team i never heard much more detail than the fact that it was related to his heart in some way, and that he did not die from it. He had to give up playing tho.

Back in the 80's I would probably have had to have open heart surgery and it could have effected the rest of my life so I was pleased it was detected when I was much older.
Professional footballers have access to the best medics and they obviously communicate with each other. The question of sportsmen and women's health is one I stick in the box labeled "Wait and see"