Corona virus - Covid 19 discussion

[Webzcas]

Have to somewhat disagree with basic masks protecting people from getting Covid. They don't offer complete protection if much at all IMO, unless the masks you wear are medical grade FPP3 in the EU and UK or N95 masks in the US. This is also the reason why there was so much media outcry last year with the lack of medical PPE in the UK and elsewhere

My wife tested positive on a LFT on Sunday and her PCR taken on Monday confirmed said result. I in turn tested positive on a LFT test on Thurs and this was confirmed with my PCR taken the same day.

With my wife's work the week prior, she had to get in a taxi to go to another site. She was wearing one of these cheap masks, this is most likely where she got it.

Not saying they don't offer some protection, but most certainly don't think you are covered.

Interestingly enough on the vaccines, but myself and my wife have had two doses of Astra Zenica, yet we caught Covid. My son has had one shot of Pfizer a few weeks back at school. His PCR came back negative and every day is still getting a negative LFT. Yet even though we are trying to be careful, he is in a house with his mum and dad and sister all with Covid.

Add to the fact that the UK is only now using Moderna and Pfizer for the booster campaign, seems that AZ is the poor man's vaccine.

 

[paulcr]

I have been waiting for the UK to approve the Novavax vaccine. Seems they rushed through all the others based but the one vaccine based on tried and tested technology is taking an age to get authorisation for use.

I had covid in January, confirmed by PCR but thankfully had no symptoms at all. When the Chinese virus was first muted back on these forums when this thread started I have taken a daily dose of Vitamin D3, Quercetin and Black Seed Oil.

I took loads of precautions at work, FFP3 mask etc, sanitizing things obsessively but caught covid in my own house from my wife.

Are any of the vaccine sceptic members on here also considering the Novavax option?

 

[geordiecolin]

I have been waiting for the UK to approve the Novavax vaccine. Seems they rushed through all the others based but the one vaccine based on tried and tested technology is taking an age to get authorisation for use.

I had covid in January, confirmed by PCR but thankfully had no symptoms at all. When the Chinese virus was first muted back on these forums when this thread started I have taken a daily dose of Vitamin D3, Quercetin and Black Seed Oil.

I took loads of precautions at work, FFP3 mask etc, sanitizing things obsessively but caught covid in my own house from my wife.

Are any of the vaccine sceptic members on here also considering the Novavax option?

I have long been posting the things that we can take to boost immunity although we hear zero about boosting immunity from the health organisations or the mouth pieces pushed forward by the government. Did you take zinc with the Quercetin? If I where to be forced into taking the clot shot I would prefer Novavax

 

[mack341]

I have been waiting for the UK to approve the Novavax vaccine. Seems they rushed through all the others based but the one vaccine based on tried and tested technology is taking an age to get authorisation for use.

I had covid in January, confirmed by PCR but thankfully had no symptoms at all. When the Chinese virus was first muted back on these forums when this thread started I have taken a daily dose of Vitamin D3, Quercetin and Black Seed Oil.

I took loads of precautions at work, FFP3 mask etc, sanitizing things obsessively but caught covid in my own house from my wife.

Are any of the vaccine sceptic members on here also considering the Novavax option?

I think I posted about that one, whole virus deactivated? Subject to how it performs as a standalone jab and any side effects, I'd definitely prefer it over a genetic code based vax.

The thing is you tested positive but had no symptoms, so presumably your immune system went to work early and it couldn't get going, there has been discussion that previous illness with one of the other coronavirus family gives a degree of cross protection to this one.

So on that basis, at my age late forties, do I actually need a vaccine, had some unusually bad chest/throat infection colds in the last 5 years, but beat them off in the end.

If this covid19 was created in the lab, designed to have stronger affinity to bind to our cells, perhaps having a vax is a sensible precaution at my age, I'd want long term protection though not just 12/6 months.

Never heard of black seed oil, had to look it up, sounds like good stuff.

 

[geordiecolin]

I think I posted about that one, whole virus deactivated? Subject to how it performs as a standalone jab and any side effects, I'd definitely prefer it over a genetic code based vax.

The thing is you tested positive but had no symptoms, so presumably your immune system went to work early and it couldn't get going, there has been discussion that previous illness with one of the other coronavirus family gives a degree of cross protection to this one.

So on that basis, at my age late forties, do I actually need a vaccine, had some unusually bad chest/throat infection colds in the last 5 years, but beat them off in the end.

If this covid19 was created in the lab, designed to have stronger affinity to bind to our cells, perhaps having a vax is a sensible precaution at my age, I'd want long term protection though not just 12/6 months.

Never heard of black seed oil, had to look it up, sounds like good stuff.

We have had the gambling site owner tell us to wear a mask and get the jab. Maybe he can throw in a few spins as an incentive?

 

[geordiecolin]

"The World Health Organization's European Advisory Group on Immunization, former vice president Professor Christian Perronne, said yesterday that all vaccinated people must be quarantined through the winter months or risk severe illness.
Perronne specializes in tropical pathologies and emerging infectious diseases. He served as chair of the High Council of Public Health's Communicable Disease Technical Committee.
The infectious disease expert acknowledged the rapidly deteriorating situation in Israel and the United Kingdom, stating, "Vaccinated people should be quarantined and isolated from society."
He went on to say, "Unvaccinated people are not dangerous; vaccinated people are dangerous to others. It's proven now in Israel - I'm in contact with many doctors in Israel - they have big problems, severe cases in hospitals are among vaccinated people, and also in the UK there is the larger vaccination program and there are also problems ."
The current working group on the COVID-19 pandemic in France is said to have "completely panicked" after receiving the news, fearing a pandemic if they follow the experts' instructions.
Israeli doctor Kobi Haviv told Channel 13 News, "95% of seriously ill patients are vaccinated. Fully vaccinated people account for 85-90% of hospitalizations. We are opening more and more COVID branches.
Vaccine effectiveness is declining or disappearing."
(AFD)

 

[mack341]

"The World Health Organization's European Advisory Group on Immunization, former vice president Professor Christian Perronne, said yesterday that all vaccinated people must be quarantined through the winter months or risk severe illness.
Perronne specializes in tropical pathologies and emerging infectious diseases. He served as chair of the High Council of Public Health's Communicable Disease Technical Committee.
The infectious disease expert acknowledged the rapidly deteriorating situation in Israel and the United Kingdom, stating, "Vaccinated people should be quarantined and isolated from society."
He went on to say, "Unvaccinated people are not dangerous; vaccinated people are dangerous to others. It's proven now in Israel - I'm in contact with many doctors in Israel - they have big problems, severe cases in hospitals are among vaccinated people, and also in the UK there is the larger vaccination program and there are also problems ."
The current working group on the COVID-19 pandemic in France is said to have "completely panicked" after receiving the news, fearing a pandemic if they follow the experts' instructions.
Israeli doctor Kobi Haviv told Channel 13 News, "95% of seriously ill patients are vaccinated. Fully vaccinated people account for 85-90% of hospitalizations. We are opening more and more COVID branches.
Vaccine effectiveness is declining or disappearing."
(AFD)

I hope he's wrong, that the vaccinated will get through safely. But the dissenting voices like his, a professor in tropical and infectious diseases, need to be heard and scientifically debated. Apparently he's queried the approach from the outset, and been railed against or censored. Logically he has nothing to gain by dissenting, and everything career wise / status & reputation to lose. Unless we're on the final lap now and covid is becoming less dangerous like a cold but easier to catch, then I worry where we're going.

Edit; I think those comments come from his interview with UK column in July, they seem to match apart from mentioning winter.

 

[dealer wins]

I hope he's wrong, that the vaccinated will get through safely. But the dissenting voices like his, a professor in tropical and infectious diseases, need to be heard and scientifically debated. Apparently he's queried the approach from the outset, and been railed against or censored. Logically he has nothing to gain by dissenting, and everything career wise / status & reputation to lose. Unless we're on the final lap now and covid is becoming less dangerous like a cold but easier to catch, then I worry where we're going.

Edit; I think those comments come from his interview with UK column in July, they seem to match apart from mentioning winter.

The vaxxed are fucked, whether it be via ADE when challenged with a coronavirus, or via the deadly side effects of the vaccine (blood clots, hart failure, heart attacks, cancers, prions, AIDS, dementia etc). Its so wrong and we were warned by many top experts, who all were cancelled and silenced.

 

[dionysus]

The vaxxed will sit home, safe in the comfort, we are less likely to die from a condition - could we, sure. Are we less likely to..also, sure

 

[goatwack]

I'm unvaxxed and sat at home - all I can say is that it's so cold that I'm struggling to find my chub

 

[dionysus]

I'm unvaxxed and sat at home - all I can say is that it's so cold that I'm struggling to find my chub

enh, if youre sitting at home, the chub, is below your boobs and above your belt
not the weiner, just the 6 pack that somehow turned into a keg
it's easy to find...when ya belch, it rumbles and jiggles

 

[ladyhawke]

The vaxxed are fucked, whether it be via ADE when challenged with a coronavirus, or via the deadly side effects of the vaccine (blood clots, hart failure, heart attacks, cancers, prions, AIDS, dementia etc). Its so wrong and we were warned by many top experts, who all were cancelled and silenced.

Is it just the COVID vaccines you are so against, or all the other vaccines through history that have protected us against Smallpox, Yellow Fever, Rubella, Mumps, Measles, etc. All of which can - and did - cause immense harm to those unfortunate to catch any of these diseases.

 

[Kroffe]

The vaxxed are fucked, whether it be via ADE when challenged with a coronavirus, or via the deadly side effects of the vaccine (blood clots, hart failure, heart attacks, cancers, prions, AIDS, dementia etc). Its so wrong and we were warned by many top experts, who all were cancelled and silenced.

What top experts are saying that cancer and aids are among the possible side effects for the Covid vaccine?

 

[dionysus]

What top experts are saying that cancer and aids are among the possible side effects for the Covid vaccine?

Um, none
Easy answer
AIDS and HIV have their own stigmas attached without added measure
Cancer, is...uterrly, utterly....horrible - and I've been through the horrible, terrible, soul eating process, pre-covid, i feel its evil and spiteful to correlate



Correlation does not imply causation

 

[dionysus]

Fuck, I'm vaxxed
K, you arent vaxxed
We can banter, a slag and a slight
Youre a ding dong; im an ass
Keep...it in the realm of science, however you decide your choices and your preferred choice of sites and science........... keep, please, the posts free of ........welll...hate begets hate, ya?

 

[dionysus]

I've stayed free and clear of this page....for...a yr? Not worth my headache, saw Bry post, so peered in.
Haappy to let this be the 2 man thread again
I'm out
Enjoy

 

[ladyhawke]

What top experts are saying that cancer and aids are among the possible side effects for the Covid vaccine?

Either of the following could have been misinterpreted (trying to be non-contentious here) to believe that vaccines could cause HIV.

1: The University of Queensland is in the process of re-engineering their original vaccine, basing it on molecular clamp technology. The first version "used two fragments of a protein found in HIV to hold together the key part of the SARS-Cov-2 virus, so the immune system could then learn to recognise it."

Regrettably, during trials it was discovered that the vaccine induced false-positive HIV results, and consequently was withdrawn. .

2: A headline on Yahoo by a UNAIDS Chief states that "COVID-19 took toll on AIDS fight". However this was due to people dropping out of being tested/treated due to "long lines at clinics or other public safety measures that impeded access to prevention measures."

 

[mack341]

I did read something recently, a paper by two scientists with chinese names but from stockholm university:

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It's very complicated to me, it's research, who knows if the effect is short lived. I did read elsewhere from a reputable source on twitter tonight, that for the first 28 days following vaccination you are more vulnerable to viruses and infections, as your immune system is slightly suppressed. If true people should probably be extra careful, dose up on vit D for one.

Edit: Actually one is from Umeå University, aka Kroffe town

 

[mack341]

looked up that novavax vaccine mentioned, sounds far more complicated than I thought or I muddled it up with something else. Just a bit of dead virus resting on a sugar cube would do for me.

 

[geordiecolin]

The vaxxed are fucked, whether it be via ADE when challenged with a coronavirus, or via the deadly side effects of the vaccine (blood clots, hart failure, heart attacks, cancers, prions, AIDS, dementia etc). Its so wrong and we were warned by many top experts, who all were cancelled and silenced.

And they argued for it!

 

[dionysus]

argue...for?...against?
Christ, does anyone think its a super spreader of AIDS and cancer ?

 

[Webzcas]

So last night, I join my wife in losing my sense of smell. Even Vics Vapour Rub, I can't smell a thing. I could literally plug both nostrils up with it and not be able to smell it.

Yet, thankfully my son, who is taking a lateral flow test daily, is once again negative, even though he is surrounded by the virus and living in what is currently "The House of Covid"

I am not a conspiracy theorist, but I am convinced that this virus is most definitely man made and some form of bio weapon. I cannot see how it cannot be.

I am glad I had the vaccine, just not so glad I had no choice in which one, that being as I now call it Crap Zenica. As it has done a great job in protecting my sense of smell.

My son though had Pfizer administered and so far he is being able to harness his inner 'Chuck Norris' and ward the virus off.

 

[sufferinsilence]

argue...for?...against?
Christ, does anyone think its a super spreader of AIDS and cancer ?

There's a whole bunch of people that think that way yes. Well, not specifically that one is a spreader of it but that you can get it from being vaccinated.

There's also a shitload of people who think JFK is still alive. So there's that.

Personally I'm still waiting for the return of Elvis. He went to the toilet and didn't come back yet.

 

[sufferinsilence]

Either of the following could have been misinterpreted (trying to be non-contentious here) to believe that vaccines could cause HIV.

1: The University of Queensland is in the process of re-engineering their original vaccine, basing it on molecular clamp technology. The first version "used two fragments of a protein found in HIV to hold together the key part of the SARS-Cov-2 virus, so the immune system could then learn to recognise it."

Regrettably, during trials it was discovered that the vaccine induced false-positive HIV results, and consequently was withdrawn. .

2: A headline on Yahoo by a UNAIDS Chief states that "COVID-19 took toll on AIDS fight". However this was due to people dropping out of being tested/treated due to "long lines at clinics or other public safety measures that impeded access to prevention measures."

Just wait until the troll farms on Facebook and Twitter start spreading that the Omicron variant has a piece of HIV RNA code in it. And omit that the same code can be found in a human coronavirus

 

[dionysus]

I am not a conspiracy theorist, but I am convinced that this virus is most definitely man made and some form of bio weapon. I cannot see how it cannot be.

I am..I truly am, sorry for your suffering
But, personally, I cannot fathom how its a bio weapon, as it does not target an age, or class or ethnicity and can infect anyone, or anywhere' if its a bio agent, it's an immensely poorly designed one

 

[sufferinsilence]

So last night, I join my wife in losing my sense of smell. Even Vics Vapour Rub, I can't smell a thing. I could literally plug both nostrils up with it and not be able to smell it.

Yet, thankfully my son, who is taking a lateral flow test daily, is once again negative, even though he is surrounded by the virus and living in what is currently "The House of Covid"

I am not a conspiracy theorist, but I am convinced that this virus is most definitely man made and some form of bio weapon. I cannot see how it cannot be.

I am glad I had the vaccine, just not so glad I had no choice in which one, that being as I now call it Crap Zenica. As it has done a great job in protecting my sense of smell.

My son though had Pfizer administered and so far he is being able to harness his inner 'Chuck Norris' and ward the virus off.

The reason your son might not have caught it is because his antibodies should be in full effect right about now if he has been vaccinated a couple of weeks ago like you said yesterday.

 

[dionysus]

There's a whole bunch of people that think that way yes. Well, not specifically that one is a spreader of it but that you can get it from being vaccinated.

There's also a shitload of people who think JFK is still alive. So there's that.

Personally I'm still waiting for the return of Elvis. He went to the toilet and didn't come back yet.

pfftm JFK is just a ding dong lullaby
Of cousrse, Elvis, is still kicking, naturally

 

[sufferinsilence]

pfftm JFK is just a ding dong lullaby
Of cousrse, Elvis, is still kicking, naturally

He's just caught in a trap and can't walk out.

But I have faith!

 

[dionysus]

He's just caught in a trap and can't walk out.

But I have faith!

well, he might have had a little less conversation to have spread shit

 

[Webzcas]

The reason your son might not have caught it is because his antibodies should be in full effect right about now if he has been vaccinated a couple of weeks ago like you said yesterday.

Oh yes I am sure that is the case. That and he had a vaccine that is recognised as one of the more effective ones, hence Pfizer is being used for the UK's booster campaign, but the UK Govt have 'dropped' Crap Zenica.

 

[dionysus]

Oh yes I am sure that is the case. That and he had a vaccine that is recognised as one of the more effective ones, hence Pfizer is being used for the UK's booster campaign, but the UK Govt have 'dropped' Crap Zenica.

I 'suppose' we are lucky here
Pfiizer is the go to here

 

[dionysus]

It's funny
Not haha funny...funny...odd
Still a hotbed of topic and contention


Here, we just still wear our masks, take our jabs, it's what we do
Call it complacency or govt grrrrrr....we just do, and go about our days

 

[The Dude]

What top experts are saying that cancer and aids are among the possible side effects for the Covid vaccine?

This top expert for one - loads of morons listen to this guy.

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[dunover]

Just had the booster today, PfizzPfazz or whatever. The same one my daughter had and still er... caught covid afterwards.

Now people are following me, I am convinced of it.

haven't heard of anyone I know having the Modern Earner one.

 

[geordiecolin]

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[mack341]

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I don't think the various govts can afford another full lockdown and furloughs, and who in their right mind will invest in the travel holiday sector. The next six months decide the outcome, a lifetime of boosters and domestic freedom restricted unless you comply, (with the vax passport used as digital id for everyday activities), or a stripped back version focusing on international travel only.

NHS staff have until april to be vaxxed, however not sure if the booster will be part of an ongoing requirement.

 

[geordiecolin]

I don't think the various govts can afford another full lockdown and furloughs, and who in their right mind will invest in the travel holiday sector. The next six months decide the outcome, a lifetime of boosters and domestic freedom restricted unless you comply, (with the vax passport used as digital id for everyday activities), or a stripped back version focusing on international travel only.

NHS staff have until april to be vaxxed, however not sure if the booster will be part of an ongoing requirement.

I think governments around the world are being slapdash with their spending because they know we will move into digital currency.Reset worldwide currencies and they can start all over again with every penny earned by every person on the planet taxed fully,they will claw back every penny spent on pandemics and domestic spending. Financial criminality will be crushed. No cash in hand work could take place. Economies would prosper massively.
My mate owned a B&B in Brighton and he made a fortune with folk paying in cash. Greece had a huge problem with folk paying their taxes by using cash in hand and that was why they got into so much dept with the EU.

 

[mack341]

I think governments around the world are being slapdash with their spending because they know we will move into digital currency.Reset worldwide currencies and they can start all over again with every penny earned by every person on the planet taxed fully,they will claw back every penny spent on pandemics and domestic spending. Financial criminality will be crushed. No cash in hand work could take place. Economies would prosper massively.
My mate owned a B&B in Brighton and he made a fortune with folk paying in cash. Greece had a huge problem with folk paying their taxes by using cash in hand and that was why they got into so much dept with the EU.

True there is that, maybe it would be better if the govts were upfront, then again too much tax thwarts effort, taken to the extreme in the soviet system, everything, all proceeds, belonged to the state, then they hand it out - but give themselves much more.

 

[electronictonic]

Stephen Kelly is a 28 year police veteran who has spent the majority of his career in the Coronial Law Unit assisting the Coroner with inquests. He has an excellent understanding of medical practice and the law.

 

[geordiecolin]

Stephen Kelly is a 28 year police veteran who has spent the majority of his career in the Coronial Law Unit assisting the Coroner with inquests. He has an excellent understanding of medical practice and the law.

Just make sure your shots batch does not end in 20A or 21A

 

[electronictonic]

Just make sure your shots batch does not end in 20A or 21A

I seen a video about this yesterday, a woman was saying there was I think 4 1. Placebo, 10mg, 20mg , 30mg the higher the does the worse the reactions, will see if I can find it again.

 

[Webzcas]

My boy is still testing negative on his daily LFT tests. Today quite a bad day for me, ended up sleeping from late morning into the mid afternoon. Just feel generally exhausted. Breathing bar the coughing fits, seems to be ok. Sense of smell has not returned lol

Likewise my wife also feeling incredibly tired too. While my daughter seems to be over the worst now.

 

[bamberfishcake]

My boy is still testing negative on his daily LFT tests. Today quite a bad day for me, ended up sleeping from late morning into the mid afternoon. Just feel generally exhausted. Breathing bar the coughing fits, seems to be ok. Sense of smell has not returned lol

Likewise my wife also feeling incredibly tired too. While my daughter seems to be over the worst now.

Hope you all feel better soon and am glad your children are ok.

 

[bamberfishcake]

Unbelievable.....

 

[electronictonic]

Dr speaks out.

 

[Kroffe]

Cool video, and very credible.
Not fearmongering and lies like you get from the MSM, this is high quality stuff.

Just wondering, is 'random person making wild claims' all there is, or was there anything to back up or verify a single thing she says?
Trust me, i really want to believe, but i need a little more than that.

- Mulder

 

[mack341]

 

[goatwack]

So Boris The Dipstick's pulled out the 'Plan B' card after all, with the advent of the relatively mild Omicron variant ravaging through the nation in its tens.

So that's more masks, Work From Home (businesses will be enthralled at that one) and of course the classic 'Papers please', coming to a town near you!

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[bamberfishcake]

Cool video, and very credible.
Not fearmongering and lies like you get from the MSM, this is high quality stuff.

Just wondering, is 'random person making wild claims' all there is, or was there anything to back up or verify a single thing she says?
Trust me, i really want to believe, but i need a little more than that.

- Mulder

Must admit, I watched the video and just thought 'well there is nothing to back what she is saying'.

It's a well-made video with high impact but I couldn't find much logic in what she was describing. Maybe I missed the point but anyone could say they spoke with lots of doctors and physicians and we are all being pumped full of poison.

 

[mack341]

Time's running out....?