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Think I was one of the few driving to walk my dog today as the weather was absolutely vile, but the roads were almost
as busy as pre covid times.I am baffled as well where everyone is going, no school runs so its not that,
can only think there are a lot of essential workers and people who cant work at home which is all within the law
but if you posted a photo of the roads and told folks from other countries we were in mid lockdown, they
would say we (or our betters) were crazy and wouldnt be suprized at our current death rates.
You only have to look at how busy the supermarkets are and other 'essential' businesses to see where they're going.

It's a joke. People will never learn.
 
Even left wing rags realise we are effectively committing child abuse

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you know what else affects childrens mental health? Seeing their parents and grandparents die.
Still not answered my question.
Heres an even easier one for you, can you link to the data you used when you said suicides were up by 300%?
 
you know what else affects childrens mental health? Seeing their parents and grandparents die.
Still not answered my question.
Heres an even easier one for you, can you link to the data you used when you said suicides were up by 300%?
Oh shut up talking bollocks mate seriously. My grandparents died when I was 10 and 12. Both died of flu funny enough. Did everything lockdown to try to save them NO, should it NO
 
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No bedwetting, hysteria, lockdowns or closing society then.
you reduced to recycling links, that I showed was bullshit last time you posted it?

Oh shut up talking bollocks mate seriously. My grandparents died when I was 10 and 12. Both died of flu funny enough. Did everything lockdown to try to save them NO, should it NO
What? That doesn't even make sense?

Still not answered my question.
Heres an even easier one for you, can you link to the data you used when you said suicides were up by 300%?
 
Oh shut up talking bollocks mate seriously. My grandparents died when I was 10 and 12. Both died of flu funny enough. Did everything lockdown to try to save them NO, should it NO
I get the distinct impression that you may have assets in a business that is currently prevented from opening? Just a wild guess but you do seem very vocal about lockdowns.
 
I get the distinct impression that you may have assets in a business that is currently prevented from opening? Just a wild guess but you do seem very vocal about lockdowns.
I am a full time sports arber, and am only earning money due to elite footie and rugby being resumed. I vehemently disagree with them being allowed to play whilst us plebs are locked down, even if it means more months of zero income like March - July.
 
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I think that was pretty common knowledge, they hadn't booked any acts so was unlikely to go ahead at this short notice.
Anyone who expects any large scale events to take place this summer, certainly with anything close to capacity crowds, are going to be very disappointed I think :(

There seems to be a common theme being murmured about that schools are likely now to be off till Easter (which is what I said at the start), if thats the case, there is no way at all any spectator events will be operating by July/August at even 30% capacity. I think the best we might see, if they allow spectators it will be only for those with a vaccination and/or a negative test within 24 hours before entry, but that in itself would cause major problems with logistics.

The Euros seem likely to be held in one country, theres no way they are going to want fans travelling all over the world to watch a football match. If I were a betting man, then my money would be on Russia.
 
I had my first jab today, the Pfizer CAF injection ( Cold as Fook).
So I am going to monitor my body over the coming weeks and I will report back if I grow a third nipple, a tail, a fourth testicle etc etc...
:eek::eek2: Where is your....deep breath....THIRD testicle exactly?

"You really don't wanna know" is an answer that I am more than prepared to accept....

EDIT:

Initially putting the word "gulp" beside third testicle maybe wasn't my smartest move....
 
'Lockdowns don't work'

IOM to fully reopen on February 1st following a lockdown that looks to have eliminated the virus locally. See you down the pub.

(Note - we are currently on Day 10 of no new community cases (and Day 4 of no new cases at all), if we get to February 1st and there have still been no new community cases, lockdown will be completely lifted, and it will have lasted just under a month. Our borders will remain closed though.)

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we (ie my area) just got...well, *ucking hammered hard, making national news; rough stuff

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key points for the TL;DR crowd:

Forty-eight hours after the outbreak began, 55 residents and staff were sickened with the virus. As of Thursday, 122 of the home’s 130 residents had tested positive for COVD-19, including 25 who have died. Another 72 staff and two essential visitors were also sickened with the virus.

Fourteen cases of a COVID-19 variant have been found in Ontario as of Jan. 16, according to the province’s weekly epidemiologic summary. Roberta Place is the first known case of a highly contagious variant finding its way into a long-term care home in Canada – a sector that has been hard hit by the coronavirus.


I'm sure it will worsen as more numbers trickle in over the next 2 weeks. Remember, those 72 staff would have gone home nights to their families.

Mom works in a local nursing/care facility so this shit scares the bejeezus out of me
 
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FTR, those of the oh, it's a bla bla 99.9 recov rate- that's about a fifth of the resdents infected that died (and yeah, you can harp on aout young v old but, really does that matter, because it aint all about 'you' specifically)
 
we (ie my area) just got...well, *ucking hammered hard, making national news; rough stuff

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key points for the TL;DR crowd:

Forty-eight hours after the outbreak began, 55 residents and staff were sickened with the virus. As of Thursday, 122 of the home’s 130 residents had tested positive for COVD-19, including 25 who have died. Another 72 staff and two essential visitors were also sickened with the virus.

Fourteen cases of a COVID-19 variant have been found in Ontario as of Jan. 16, according to the province’s weekly epidemiologic summary. Roberta Place is the first known case of a highly contagious variant finding its way into a long-term care home in Canada – a sector that has been hard hit by the coronavirus.


I'm sure it will worsen as more numbers trickle in over the next 2 weeks. Remember, those 72 staff would have gone home nights to their families.

Mom works in a local nursing/care facility so this shit scares the bejeezus out of me

Thats really awful, shows how dangerous this virus can be,live opposite a care home, waiting for the day when a queue of
ambulances pull up outside,just hope they have all been jabbed and its effective.
 
Thats really awful, shows how dangerous this virus can be,live opposite a care home, waiting for the day when a queue of
ambulances pull up outside,just hope they have all been jabbed and its effective.
We're on a shortage here.
Mom was due her 2nd jab today as an essenital care worker, and all staff appts were cancelled :(
 
I tell ya, I so very, rarely get angry - never mind forum angry - in life, in general by my own patience and nature

But, it pisses me off to to end, there's anyone's mother or granny (or whomever) out there that, sure, may have an underlying condition, but could be 'round for another year...or 2...or ten...cut short, because junior thinks it's his gods-given right to go maskless and play tough and drink with his mates and spread it round back home and everywhere when it takes so LITTLE consideration.
The sheer selfishness of that boggles the mind.
 
yes and this is what i'm trying to get across to dealer and his made up shite.

If you weren't an essential worker, and your workplace was closed, your fellow workers were furloughed and following the rules, would your 3 mates be in ICU and would your mate be on his way to hospital? No? That shows lockdown is working. Dealer thinks in that situation, MORE people would catch it.

But it is not just the essential workers that are continuing to work. You got all and sundry that can't work from home and doing non essential work mixing and going about their business as per Government advise.

I am sure that during the first lockdown construction and the like were not operating but this was then changed during the following lockdown?
 
But it is not just the essential workers that are continuing to work. You got all and sundry that can't work from home and doing non essential work mixing and going about their business as per Government advise.

I am sure that during the first lockdown construction and the like were not operating but this was then changed during the following lockdown?
No but not sure what that has to do with what I posted. My point was dealer says infections increase during lockdown. I say if people aren't going out, how can they increase?
I do think the lockdown should be stricter to a degree, with more workplace checks being done. Some businesses are safer now due to putting measures in place, some are just like before, factory workers working side by side etc
BJ screwed up when he first announced lockdown by saying all non essential businesses had to close. What he meant was non essential retail, which lead to thousands of businesses closing that didn't need to.
 
But it is not just the essential workers that are continuing to work. You got all and sundry that can't work from home and doing non essential work mixing and going about their business as per Government advise.

I am sure that during the first lockdown construction and the like were not operating but this was then changed during the following lockdown?
There are definitely more people travelling to work this lockdown as @colinsunderland has said previously in the first lockdown offices let staff work at home but this time these people are going into work. Why when they have already proved they can work at home ? Just adds to the people wandering round spreading infection.
 
'Lockdowns don't work'

IOM to fully reopen on February 1st following a lockdown that looks to have eliminated the virus locally. See you down the pub.

(Note - we are currently on Day 10 of no new community cases (and Day 4 of no new cases at all), if we get to February 1st and there have still been no new community cases, lockdown will be completely lifted, and it will have lasted just under a month. Our borders will remain closed though.)

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What's the principal reason(s) for the different results lockdown has achieved then Chop, between mainland and IOM?
 
Speaking from the UK and more specifically West Midlands

This 2nd National lockdown, simply is not a lockdown, it just ain't

Just come in from work and It is almost as if as I left the house Boris appeared on TV and said, "Virus gone, go back to normal"

Unsure if this is countrywide but places I go (for work as a key worker FTR) not many appear to be listening or following any of the guidelines !
 
Maybe the reason numbers infected are going down is not only the lockdown but the amount that have already had it.

If the figures for some areas are correct then the amount of positive cases recorded added to the amount that would not have been even tested although having it then a hell of a lot of people will have had it.

The cases will then obviously drop a bit .

For example if you have a group of 1000 people. In first few months 100 had had the virus. Then over a week period 50 a day had tested positive for the virus. Adding the ones that were not tested then after the week period even if it was still spreading between that group the numbers testing positive would drop dramatically.
 
Bojo saying now that the new variant seems to have a higher mortality rate than the original one :(
if the local (mine) example above is any example, I'd say that's spot on, and more highyly virulent (transmissable/contagious) as well :(
 
we (ie my area) just got...well, *ucking hammered hard, making national news; rough stuff

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key points for the TL;DR crowd:

Forty-eight hours after the outbreak began, 55 residents and staff were sickened with the virus. As of Thursday, 122 of the home’s 130 residents had tested positive for COVD-19, including 25 who have died. Another 72 staff and two essential visitors were also sickened with the virus.

Fourteen cases of a COVID-19 variant have been found in Ontario as of Jan. 16, according to the province’s weekly epidemiologic summary. Roberta Place is the first known case of a highly contagious variant finding its way into a long-term care home in Canada – a sector that has been hard hit by the coronavirus.


I'm sure it will worsen as more numbers trickle in over the next 2 weeks. Remember, those 72 staff would have gone home nights to their families.

Mom works in a local nursing/care facility so this shit scares the bejeezus out of me

So sad to see this happen in your area and I am sure your mum is doing everything she can to protect herself from this wicked virus. Stay safe Dion.
 
i do not know what to beleive anymore,funny how Taiwan has had no lockdown and only 7 deaths ???
How is it funny?
They have a completely different society, and although they didn't have a lockdown, they did have very strict measures in some things. They also acted a lot earlier than us and made everyone coming into the country quarantine before most people over here had heard of Covid-19.

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One thing seems obvious and that is that they strongly believe it is not going to be over any time soon. When, yet again , Government cronies and donors are given £350M contracts without putting the contract out for tender for testing over the next 2 years. They awarded the contract to a company owned by that tax dodger Lord Ashcroft. Where is their obligation to ensure value for money or for accountability?
 
One thing seems obvious and that is that they strongly believe it is not going to be over any time soon. When, yet again , Government cronies and donors are given £350M contracts without putting the contract out for tender for testing over the next 2 years. They awarded the contract to a company owned by that tax dodger Lord Ashcroft. Where is their obligation to ensure value for money or for accountability?
I've mentioned it before in this thread, I think there should be criminal trials once this is over and the contracts are looked into. Look at the food parcels they were sending out, most schools are going to vouchers now (which they should have been from day 1) but no mention of the company who ripped kids off having to pay any money back.
 
I've mentioned it before in this thread, I think there should be criminal trials once this is over and the contracts are looked into. Look at the food parcels they were sending out, most schools are going to vouchers now (which they should have been from day 1) but no mention of the company who ripped kids off having to pay any money back.
It has been quoted that pretty much every contracted tendered from the start was awarded to one company or another that have direct links to either conservative MP's or have a history of donating to the party.
Can you recall the huge shipping contract awarded to a company with no ships or history of it? I hate the political class because I find most Countries around the World corrupt to some degree.
Who thinks that they live in a Country these days where their Political class's corruption is at a minimum?
For me I would choose Sweden
Edit. Did those food parcel contracts get paid to those companies in full for legal reasons?
 
It has been quoted that pretty much every contracted tendered from the start was awarded to one company or another that have direct links to either conservative MP's or have a history of donating to the party.
Can you recall the huge shipping contract awarded to a company with no ships or history of it? I hate the political class because I find most Countries around the World corrupt to some degree.
Who thinks that they live in a Country these days where their Political class's corruption is at a minimum?
For me I would choose Sweden
Edit. Did those food parcel contracts get paid to those companies in full for legal reasons?
Yep, or the multi million £ PPE contract awarded to the company who had £100 in the bank and no PPE, owned by a Tory party donor. The people who awarded the contracts should be jailed for that.
 
Yep, or the multi million £ PPE contract awarded to the company who had £100 in the bank and no PPE, owned by a Tory party donor. The people who awarded the contracts should be jailed for that.
I bet that company had that government money in the bank before a single item of PPE was produced.
I have had a look about and despite it being over a week since the food parcel issue raised its head and there being a switch to vouchers I can find nothing about these companies being paid in full or not. I bet we will never know?
 
I bet that company had that government money in the bank before a single item of PPE was produced.
I have had a look about and despite it being over a week since the food parcel issue raised its head and there being a switch to vouchers I can find nothing about these companies being paid in full or not. I bet we will never know?
They did, which begs the question, if that company could get paid, the order the stuff from china, get it delivered then pass it to the government, then why couldn't the government just cut out the middle man. I could understand it if the company had stock ready to go, it was needed urgently.

Today's figures, while bad, at least are showing signs of slowing down, infections are down a lot and all the other figures are slowing down to what they were a week ago. Not sure how thats possible when Dr Dealer tells us lockdowns increase the figures, but there you go. A glimmer of hope maybe. Vaccination figures are excellent.

128 cases in Sunderland. -14
4 deaths in Sunderland. +2
24 patients admitted to hospital in South Tyneside & Sunderland. -1
234 patients in hospital in South Tyneside & Sunderland. +9
15 patients on ventilation in South Tyneside & Sunderland. +1

1,176 cases in the NE. -85
47 deaths in the NE. -7
472 patients admitted to hospital in the NE & Yorks. +79
3,793 patients in hospital in the NE & Yorks. +209
325 patients on ventilation in the NE & Yorks. +41

33,552 cases in the UK. -7,794
1,348 deaths in the UK. +53
4,125 patients admitted to hospital in the UK. -407
37,899 patients in hospital in the UK. +424
4,076 patients on ventilation in the UK. +287

665,330 tests conducted.

Sunderland 7 day rolling average:
315 cases per 100,000 using backdated data. -56
367 cases per 100,000 using daily data. -105

389 cases per 100,000 for the UK using daily data. -120

5,861,531 (478,248) people have received 1st dose of vaccination in the UK. +2,302,352
468,617 (1,821) people have received 2nd dose of vaccination in the UK. +21,356

+/- compared to one week ago. Figures in brackets for doses = daily total.
 

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