Corona virus - Covid 19 discussion

[slotplayer]

Look at the guy's mask.

What about between sips?

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[dealer wins]

Clearly labour was always the superior choice, you just needed to see tories in power to realize it.

Ive lived through a Labour government, complete and utter disaster. We need a new political party in this country lol

 

[Kroffe]

Ive lived through a Labour government, complete and utter disaster. We need a new political party in this country lol

Vote @mina1929 next election.
She will sort things out.

 

[sufferinsilence]

Ive lived through a Labour government, complete and utter disaster. We need a new political party in this country lol

What happened with Lord Buckethead?

 

[Kroffe]

What happened with Lord Buckethead?

I totally forgot about Lord Buckethead.
And now when searching for a video, i discovered theres also a Count Binface.

 

[dealer wins]

This guy says it better than I ever can.

 

[dionysus]

well, the problem really was, everyone felt even then, so self-entitled, they couldnt even do the 3 bloody weeks

 

[dealer wins]

well, the problem really was, everyone felt even then, so self-entitled, they couldnt even do the 3 bloody weeks

For the first few weeks EVERYONE obeyed the rules. It was literally like a ghost town everywhere, you could walk in the middle of the road.

It didnt work, the curve was already flattening before they brought in the lockdown, and they didn't remove it when it was obvious the NHS wasnt going to be overwhelmed, and they have lied to us and subjected us to this bullshit ever since.

The government should be held criminally liable for denying its citizens basic human rights.

 

[dionysus]

For the first few weeks EVERYONE obeyed the rules. It was literally like a ghost town everywhere, you could walk in the middle of the road.

but..it really wasn't and they really didnt
Maybe your specifcic community did..the world at large did not
it was a hoax, a myth, some overblown 'over there' issue, a flu, a chinese virus, a political platform

every time a restriction was laid down people cried 'muh rights, muh rights'

 

[dealer wins]

but..it really wasn't and they really didnt
Maybe your specifcic community did..the world at large did not
it was a hoax, a myth, some overblown 'over there' issue, a flu, a chinese virus, a political platform

every time a restriction was laid down people cried 'muh rights, muh rights'

Sorry, but they really did. Everyone had the fear of black death in them. Traffic was 70% down, with only essential workers going to work.

The normally mentally busy Kilburn High Road, my main high Street was deserted apart from people waiting to go into Aldi and Sainsburys. Everywhere else was closed, and it was dead.

Even myself, who didnt want a lockdown, only went out for my daily walk and once a week braved the shops for food.

 

[dionysus]

But again...that might be true for you and your area.

It's a global pandemic, and globally, people did not, and STILL will not...bow down to any sort of preventative measures..because mememememe

You really only, ever, have to look at the current state of well...the states

 

[dionysus]

for every single large group of people who say, 'right, lets sort this shit in 3 weeks and stay home' there's another is like 'well, ef the rules, ef people, ts overblown and IM doing MY shit because i have MY rights' and spread the contagion.

There is truly, no lack of evidence

 

[mack341]

I think it was here in december and therefore was circulating 2 months before the march lockdown

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Juanita Kearns runs the Bulls Head pub in Baildon, just north of central Bradford, the destination for Altogether Now choir members after their weekly practice session in a church hall nearby. Towards the end of January she collapsed, barely able to breathe, and went to bed, sweating profusely. Her doctor called an ambulance.

"My doctor asked if I'd been to China, the ambulance people asked if I'd been to China and the hospital asked me the same. I said no, and explained again about being a pub landlady. They said I appeared to have a lung condition and sent me home," she says.

 

[dionysus]

I think it was here in december and therefore was circulating 2 months before the march lockdown

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ya, this thread alone, dates back to Jan

 

[bowki]

Reading that first post again is so strange. It feels like that was 10 years ago. What a strange and crazy year this has been.

 

[mack341]

ya, this thread alone, dates back to Jan

View attachment 142867

Also from that bbc article:

So when I got an email out of the blue from a Bradford resident saying that she and her friends may have been infected with Covid-19 in January - nearly two months before the first confirmed case of transmission in the UK - I looked for these clues and decided to investigate further.

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perhaps this is why the lockdown didn't stop cases and a high rate of deaths in the uk, not because it wasn't stringent enough or obeyed but because it was in effect too late to stop transmission. Add on top sending half recovered patients back into care homes to clear the hospital beds, no testing of care home staff and a lack of PPE, and the figures of deaths and cases [even during lockdown] starts to make more sense.

 

[Kroffe]

Im too lazy to go back in the thread and check, but wasnt there articles about house parties, people gathering in parks to sunbathe etc posted during the lockdown?
May have been from the us, but i kind of think it was from the uk.

 

[Kroffe]

The part about sunbathing makes it sound more like US i guess.
You guys have sun in the UK?

 

[dealer wins]

Im too lazy to go back in the thread and check, but wasnt there articles about house parties, people gathering in parks to sunbathe etc posted during the lockdown?
May have been from the us, but i kind of think it was from the uk.

These both started to appear in late May, long after peak covid, when people started to realise that covid wasn't the black death, long after the "peak". And to this day the nightingale hospitals havnt seen a single bum on seat

 

[slotplayer]

I recall it the same way as dealer, I even mentioned it in a post. Everyone was on the same page here in the US, even this forum was united for some time. This thread is a time line of events if someone wants to read all of it to see if it unfolded as we recall.

 

[Kroffe]

These both started to appear in late May, long after peak covid, when people started to realise that covid wasn't the black death, long after the "peak". And to this day the nightingale hospitals havnt seen a single bum on seat

I will have to take your word for it.
I was going to check, but the March part of the thread is like 100 pages so i quickly gave up.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Five welders travel to the Isle of Man under the 'key-worker' category (they were here to do some specialised welding on the railway we don't currently have the people living here to do).

They all had to read and sign a declaration form as to the terms of travelling to the island, (go straight to your hotel, do not stop anywhere else, full food and refreshments will be provided), but instead decided to stop off at Tesco to buy alcohol and snacks.

They were subsequently arrested and each jailed for 14 days.

This bloke from Yorkshire is not happy, whilst pointing out that he would not wear a mask. Note that one of the welders did actually have Covid-19 when he travelled to the island. Also note that his comments about politicians 'not following the rules' don't apply here, because he's talking about UK politicians, none of our politicians have been that stupid/hypocritical and you can be damn sure that if they were they'd be out on their ear in a heartbeat.

Comments are worth a read.

Its due to people like the 'Angry Yorkshireman' that the UK is in such a mess. The Isle of Man have stuck together and got rid of the virus and are now enjoying not having to wear masks, no social distancing, they can go out to pubs, clubs, theatres, concerts and have gone back to completely normal life and businesses are booming.

The borders are virtually closed for leisure travel but is open to key workers that have a special travel permit and have to follow a set of very simple rules. Once on the Island the key workers must go straight to the quarantine hotel where food for the full day is available and then straight to their work where strict covid rules apply.

It's a shame that this angry yorkshireman is stuck on repeating himself that the workers were arrested for simply going to a shop and buying food, when actually they were arrested for risking the spread of the virus on a covid free island....

What he isn't grasping is that one of the welders did actually have corona virus and if he had spread this to other residents then it would of spread like wildfire as normal life has resumed on the Island.. i.e. no social distancing, mask wearing etc. This would then result in another Isle of Man lockdown where lots of businesses would have had to close, lots of jobs lost and potentially people dying.

Now one of these welders has coronavirus in the Isle of Man prison which has now gone into complete lockdown and have stopped any visitors for the next few weeks (I bet the inmates are not happy with them!). Its a real shame that the UK can't get their act together and get back to normal life. I think you need to research the Isle of Man and its covid rules a little more before making a complete prat of yourself on youtube

 

[mack341]

In all fairness I think the angry yorkshireman deserves the right of reply, so I am posting here his youtube reply to the criticism of his vid :

Lads going to work and nipping to a shop should mean prison to you. Tell you What, let's see what happens because if they get any longer you may see a rather large protest appear on your island. Repercussions will come for your island and it's magistrates same as it will over here with "laws" that are against human rights. Prisons are there for real criminals not hard working lads who should have at most been given a talking to. As for laws, why should anyone listen to the laws of an island that allows paedophiles to freely roam and not be jailed or prosecuted and that has been dragged many times, such as in the paradise papers, for being an off shore tax haven and money laundering institution. You have no leg to stand on when those are allowed but lads who went into a shop with masks on and social distancing get prison.

'f*cking sandwich!'

[Just to say, despite not being a lockdown fan I can see the IOM residents pov, having achieved virus free status they want to try to keep it that way, and being a smallish island they perhaps have a more reasonable chance than a country of over 55 million]

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Ivermectin could be a treatment for covid-19, no doubt if it continues to show promise, the msm hive-minds and naysayers will attack it just like HCQ, vit D etc...

 

[ChopleyIOM]

In all fairness I think the angry yorkshireman deserves the right of reply, so I am posting here his youtube reply to the criticism of his vid :

Lads going to work and nipping to a shop should mean prison to you. Tell you What, let's see what happens because if they get any longer you may see a rather large protest appear on your island. Repercussions will come for your island and it's magistrates same as it will over here with "laws" that are against human rights. Prisons are there for real criminals not hard working lads who should have at most been given a talking to. As for laws, why should anyone listen to the laws of an island that allows paedophiles to freely roam and not be jailed or prosecuted and that has been dragged many times, such as in the paradise papers, for being an off shore tax haven and money laundering institution. You have no leg to stand on when those are allowed but lads who went into a shop with masks on and social distancing get prison.

So basically his reply is a threat couched in misinformation and ignorance.

Writing the words laws as 'laws' doesn't mean they're not laws, we make our own laws here, the five men were jailed according to that law, they were tried by a court, found guilty, and jailed according to the law. That's what a law is, it's not a 'law'.

A criminal is someone who breaks the law, by definition they then become a real criminal, and can be tried according to the law.

One of those guys was infectious, he actually had Covid, it's not difficult to imagine the potential consequences on an island that's designated as Covid-free, and therefore we have no social distancing, no shielding, no masks, no extra sanitation, nothing - the possible 'super-spreader' event that could result doesn't bear thinking about.

And it's not about just being horrible to 'hard working lads' either, several island residents were sent to jail during our lockdown for breaking the rules, and we've had island residents return to the island who didn't follow the rules, they got locked up too.

We're not fucking about over here, we're Covid-free and we want to stay that way.

My grandma has just turned 95, she's my last remaining grandparent and she's really not well, given the situation in the UK I'm not even sure I'll be able to get to the funeral if she dies in the next month or two, and if I was able to go, I'd have to abide by the same super-strict self-isolation rules when I returned to the island. If I returned to the island and decided to wander over to the Co-Op to buy wine and pizza (which I wouldn't because I have a functioning concept of my responsibility to others), and I got caught, you can be damn sure I'd end up in jail too, and I'd have deserved it.

 

[Borgie]

17,540 new cases as virus kills 3 times more people than flu and pneumonia

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[paul7388]

More scaremongering.

To put it into perspective here are some figures from a couple of years ago for flu which people are vacinated again.


Flu and cold weather contributed towards 50,000 excess winter deaths last year

03 December 2018

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There were over 50,000 excess winter deaths in England and Wales last winter, the highest recorded since 1975/76, according to data released by the Office of National Statistics (ONS).
The increase is thought to be a result of the prevalence of flu last year, alongside ineffectiveness of the flu vaccine and colder than usual temperatures in the 2017/18 winter period, according to the ONS.
The excess winter mortality rate, which compares the numbers of deaths between December and March to the average number of deaths across the rest of the year, continued to be the highest in females and people aged 85 and over.

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However, the rate also doubled among males aged 0-64 years between 2016/17 to 2017/18.
Over one third (34.7%) of the excess deaths between 2017/18 were caused by respiratory diseases.
There were also 28% more deaths from circulatory diseases compared with non-winter months, which accounted for nearly a quarter of the excess deaths.
Nick Stripe, health analysis and life events statistician at the ONS, said: ‘Peaks like these are not unusual – we have seen more than eight peaks during the last 40 years.’
But Dr Jennie Harries, deputy medical director at Public Health England (PHE), highlighted the importance of all vulnerable groups receiving the flu jab to avoid excess winter deaths.
Dr Harries said: ‘The winter of 2017/18 saw an intense flu season and some very cold weather. Such weather particularly affects people who are already vulnerable, increasing the risk of heart attack and stroke.
‘We have made new flu vaccines available, including a more effective vaccine for all adults aged 65 and over.’
But her comments come as global supply issues affecting the new over-65s flu vaccine has

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Some 2.5m elderly people in England

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, while in Scotland

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[mack341]

taken from twitter:

I would certainly not like to get influenza, it is a killer and mutates each season, so the vaccine strain used is a best guess. I never realised though that you can get it in summer but apparently you can.

I think one of the best things the average person can do with all respiratory viruses is make sure you get enough vitamins, esp vit d/c and zinc. If you're deficient of these you're worsening the odds for how your immune system will cope.

a 1-year study of 420 nursing home patients who daily were administered 50% of the United States Department of Agriculture Recommended Daily Allowance for vitamins and minerals found that participants with plasma concentrations of zinc greater than 70 μg/dL had a significantly lower risk of pneumonia requiring antibiotics than did participants with plasma zinc levels of less than 70 μg/dL.

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[Mr_Slot5]

What those guys did on the IOM was wrong, but I agree that prison was not necessary. A hefty fine would have made the same point without the need to put other prisoners at risk too. Bit of an own goal really.

 

[sufferinsilence]

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[dealer wins]

Hi guys, gonna bow out of casinomeister today, been great fun over the last 15 years, but playford being banned has been the final straw.

I wish you all the best of luck in your slotting and gambling, and in life.

Its been emotional xx

 

[dionysus]

take care and safe in a tough 2020

 

[dionysus]

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Ontario tightens restrictions in 3 major areas amid 939 new cases of COVID-19

 

[slotplayer]

The covid stats for my city. The city has run more tests than population so some people were tested more than once or they were from another city.

Cases:

Deaths have leveled off in the state:

 

[Mr_Slot5]

Hi guys, gonna bow out of casinomeister today, been great fun over the last 15 years, but playford being banned has been the final straw.

I wish you all the best of luck in your slotting and gambling, and in life.

Its been emotional xx

I'd urge you to have a rethink mate. One of the better members of the forum; easy to get along with, knowledgeable etc. You'll be missed.

Sleep on it at least

 

[Slottery]

PHE had set up an automatic process to pull this data together into Excel templates so that it could then be uploaded to a central system and made available to the NHS Test and Trace team as well as other government computer dashboards.

The problem is that the PHE developers picked an old file format to do this - known as XLS.

As a consequence, each template could handle only about 65,000 rows of data rather than the one million-plus rows that Excel is actually capable of.

And since each test result created several rows of data, in practice it meant that each template was limited to about 1,400 cases. When that total was reached, further cases were simply left off.

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How drunk you need to be to choose XLS to be your "database" "technology" in year 2020 IT-project....

 

[sufferinsilence]

 

[dionysus]

well, at least theyre safe at home, on 123 Fake St

 

[shadow123]

Wifes funeral is on Friday but Nottingham has new Covid restrictions being announced on Monday,coming
into force on Wednesday, hope it doesnt mess things up, spent so much time with the arrangements over the
last week, there wont be many mourners anyway I think tier 2 rules restrict the number to 15, and with
Nottingham suppossed to be the worst area for new infections it could be tier 3, i cant find out how that
affects funerals.We were having a couple of relatives back to the house after but sounds like thats may not be possible even on tier 2.I cant really postpone the funeral as people are sending flowers on the day and
its too near to the date now anyway, the cremetorium slot is booked and it could be weeks before it could
re arranged
Pretty annoyed that things were not thought through when they started easing the lockdown,sending all the
kids back to school and letting the university students have the fun they seemed to be entilted to.Many of them
are now having go back home to do the courses online,and there is going go be a lot of secondary disruption
from the new restrictions.My faith in Boris and co is down to zero, Just going to have to wait till Monday now
and see what happens.Pretty down about the whole thing, not being able to see or say goodbye to my wife in hospital and now possibly not being able to give her the sendoff I wanted to.Really hate 2020, been shit all the way through.

 

[Guntis]

 

[slotplayer]

 

[Mr_Slot5]

Don't know if anyone has seen this but this guy shares some data analysis of the current situation and his view on lockdown measures etc. An interesting watch for sure-

 

[incrediblestuff]

This is the thing, we didnt survive thousands of years without them. Vaccines have increased life expectancy by 30 - 40 years over the last few centuries, vaccines have eradicated numerous diseases over the last 100 years, i.e small pox, and vaccines have greatly increased human health.
Where would we be today without vaccines? Probably living in a world with less than a billion people and a life expectancy of 35 - 50 years.
But the choice to take a vaccine will be yours alone, I know that when any fully tested vaccine comes along I will be in the queue to get it.

Actually we did, you do realise vaccins have only been introduced since a few 100 years - aside from the 'evidence' that smallpox inoculation was practised in China, Africa and Turkey around the year 1000 CE - we did not (officially) start to use any form of vaccin for humans until the end of 1700 CE, and in the western world, the more 'topical' flu vaccines were introduced to the public around 80 years ago. Children's vaccines were started around the 60's of the last era.

My opinion: i would love to live in a world with 'only' one billion people and have zero issues with a 50yr life expectancy (and i'm 44) but nothing in your sentence 'Where would we be' is based on facts, just a feeling you have, based on your trust in said vaccines. Maybe i should counter, i would love to see what the state of our world would be if we hadn't started using vaccines...

As that's very hard to 'imagine' i can only point to some of the indigenous rural communities that now are almost extinct in the world, that have lived in such a manner, who i really find to be great specimens of our species, with more 'value' than your average modern man, and most definitely less of a strain on our world

By the way these isolated tribes used to have a n average lkife expectancy of about 80-90 yrs old, and these days some of the tribes that have 'moderate' contact with the rest of the world have dropped to 60-65 yrs (As example the Jarawa - after they were 'forced to relocate' by the Indian government)... just saying!

Just to be clear: i'm not attacking you, or trying to say you're wrong to trust in vaccines and our WHO's and governments, i'm just giving you some material to contemplate, And to say we really were doing fine for thousands of years, at least in health and life expectancy: in my view, if we wouldn't have focused on healing and eliminating disease (which is already proving to be near impossible - just read up on the mutation of the flu strains and our failing antibiotics/antimicrobial resistance) we most likely weould have focused on adapting and preventation, which to me has always made more sense

And this has all been known as fact, since way before the covid-virus, fake news and social media induced mass hysteria were a thing.. food for thought?

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In something Malta got top of Europe

A questionable honor but it may end up solving a lot of casino related issues (bad joke, i know)

No we didnt....not on a large scale
We died young and often

edit what @cncas2123 said i was a page behind

See my reply to cncas above. Add to that, we still die young and often, mainly because from what i've seen, we as a a species have actually become weaker, due to overuse of medication, extreme polution, years of unhealthy food preservatives and so much more, most worrying i find the lack of basic fitness of our general population, i'd say people like you and me were perhaps the last generation that actually got outside enough to build up some sort of resistance and general health, which as a general statement definitely seems 'out there' but i swear it worries me a great deal..changes have to be made, and i mean yesterday

If we're 'debating' about vaccines then things have properly gone into the uncanny valley and we may as well start a new thread about whether or not the moon is made of cheese.

I'm tapping out of this one for a bit.

Feel free to tap, you generally seem like a decent chap and someone who likes to think throrughly about things, but i've seen you display some unwillingness to exert lateral thinking on some topics in this thread, going as far as comparing some actual scientific questions that are still up for debate by the worlds 'most established experts' to baltant bollocks, so i suggest you take the off-time to study said topics some more..

Of course the moon is made of cheese! Seriously - I'm afraid uncanny valley is the most interesting place in our world, where there's a lot yet to be discovered..

All of the above is not as clear as it could be, i put that down to my non-English nativeness, and the excessive amount of weed i smoked in the last few years due to my medical shite and simultaneously trying to block out all the shit in our world..i had so much more to say but i can't remember...

And @shadow123 ..i'm really sorry for your loss
Can't even fathom what you must feel like now, i just hope you'll stay strong and find joy somewhere..

 

[cncas2123]

Actually we did, you do realise vaccins have only been introduced since a few 100 years - aside from the 'evidence' that smallpox inoculation was practised in China, Africa and Turkey around the year 1000 CE - we did not (officially) start to use any form of vaccin for humans until the end of 1700 CE, and in the western world, the more 'topical' flu vaccines were introduced to the public around 80 years ago. Children's vaccines were started around the 60's of the last era.

My opinion: i would love to live in a world with 'only' one billion people and have zero issues with a 50yr life expectancy (and i'm 44) but nothing in your sentence 'Where would we be' is based on facts, just a feeling you have, based on your trust in said vaccines. Maybe i should counter, i would love to see what the state of our world would be if we hadn't started using vaccines...

As that's very hard to 'imagine' i can only point to some of the indigenous rural communities that now are almost extinct in the world, that have lived in such a manner, who i really find to be great specimens of our species, with more 'value' than your average modern man, and most definitely less of a strain on our world

By the way these isolated tribes used to have a n average lkife expectancy of about 80-90 yrs old, and these days some of the tribes that have 'moderate' contact with the rest of the world have dropped to 60-65 yrs (As example the Jarawa - after they were 'forced to relocate' by the Indian government)... just saying!

Just to be clear: i'm not attacking you, or trying to say you're wrong to trust in vaccines and our WHO's and governments, i'm just giving you some material to contemplate, And to say we really were doing fine for thousands of years, at least in health and life expectancy: in my view, if we wouldn't have focused on healing and eliminating disease (which is already proving to be near impossible - just read up on the mutation of the flu strains and our failing antibiotics/antimicrobial resistance) we most likely weould have focused on adapting and preventation, which to me has always made more sense

And this has all been known as fact, since way before the covid-virus, fake news and social media induced mass hysteria were a thing.. food for thought?




A questionable honor but it may end up solving a lot of casino related issues (bad joke, i know)



See my reply to cncas above. Add to that, we still die young and often, mainly because from what i've seen, we as a a species have actually become weaker, due to overuse of medication, extreme polution, years of unhealthy food preservatives and so much more, most worrying i find the lack of basic fitness of our general population, i'd say people like you and me were perhaps the last generation that actually got outside enough to build up some sort of resistance and general health, which as a general statement definitely seems 'out there' but i swear it worries me a great deal..changes have to be made, and i mean yesterday



Feel free to tap, you generally seem like a decent chap and someone who likes to think throrughly about things, but i've seen you display some unwillingness to exert lateral thinking on some topics in this thread, going as far as comparing some actual scientific questions that are still up for debate by the worlds 'most established experts' to baltant bollocks, so i suggest you take the off-time to study said topics some more..

Of course the moon is made of cheese! Seriously - I'm afraid uncanny valley is the most interesting place in our world, where there's a lot yet to be discovered..

All of the above is not as clear as it could be, i put that down to my non-English nativeness, and the excessive amount of weed i smoked in the last few years due to my medical shite and simultaneously trying to block out all the shit in our world..i had so much more to say but i can't remember...

And @shadow123 ..i'm really sorry for your loss
Can't even fathom what you must feel like now, i just hope you'll stay strong and find joy somewhere..

This says it better than I could, and while I appreciate that its not all down to Vaccines, I believe that Vaccination has helped in the reduction of child mortality.

The turn of the Century marked the beginning of a steady decline in infant mortality. In 1901,1 in every 7 live-born infants died; by 1930 this had dropped to 1 in 15 and in 1973 the proportion was 1 in 592.

Thats a huge drop from 1901 onward, and if i delve deeper down the centuries I am sure the figures will be just as stark.

 

[cncas2123]

This says it better than I could, and while I appreciate that its not all down to Vaccines, I believe that Vaccination has helped in the reduction of child mortality.

The turn of the Century marked the beginning of a steady decline in infant mortality. In 1901,1 in every 7 live-born infants died; by 1930 this had dropped to 1 in 15 and in 1973 the proportion was 1 in 592.

Thats a huge drop from 1901 onward, and if i delve deeper down the centuries I am sure the figures will be just as stark.

If you go back to 1800 the rate is 340 deaths per 1000 child mortality rate, so we did struggle to live without vaccines.

 

[dionysus]

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[shadow123]

Nottingham has been placed in tier 2 so my wifes funeral can go ahead as planned,relieved as I didnt want to
pick which mourners coundnt come if the allowed number was lowered.
Been trying to work out the new tier 2 rules, just as confusing as ever and illogical,you cant socialize with anyone outside your household in a pub, so you go in a pub and a friend happens to be in there,are you breaking the law if you speak to them,but ok if you ignore them.Is it me being thick?
My sister is coming to the funeral and as far as i can tell she cant come back to my house after for a cuppa,
we cant go to a pub or any other indoor place, all we can do is stand in the pouring rain to chat.
I have no problem with restrictions but I think again these have not been thought through properly.
Still trying to get my head round support bubble rules they are even more confusing.

 

[Playford7]

Nottingham has been placed in tier 2 so my wifes funeral can go ahead as planned,relieved as I didnt want to
pick which mourners coundnt come if the allowed number was lowered.
Been trying to work out the new tier 2 rules, just as confusing as ever and illogical,you cant socialize with anyone outside your household in a pub, so you go in a pub and a friend happens to be in there,are you breaking the law if you speak to them,but ok if you ignore them.Is it me being thick?
My sister is coming to the funeral and as far as i can tell she cant come back to my house after for a cuppa,
we cant go to a pub or any other indoor place, all we can do is stand in the pouring rain to chat.
I have no problem with restrictions but I think again these have not been thought through properly.
Still trying to get my head round support bubble rules they are even more confusing.

Just wanted to send my genuine and sincere condolences albeit a bit late as not long been back.
the way your dealing with this is a utter credit to yourself.

 

[colinsunderland]

Nottingham has been placed in tier 2 so my wifes funeral can go ahead as planned,relieved as I didnt want to
pick which mourners coundnt come if the allowed number was lowered.
Been trying to work out the new tier 2 rules, just as confusing as ever and illogical,you cant socialize with anyone outside your household in a pub, so you go in a pub and a friend happens to be in there,are you breaking the law if you speak to them,but ok if you ignore them.Is it me being thick?
My sister is coming to the funeral and as far as i can tell she cant come back to my house after for a cuppa,
we cant go to a pub or any other indoor place, all we can do is stand in the pouring rain to chat.
I have no problem with restrictions but I think again these have not been thought through properly.
Still trying to get my head round support bubble rules they are even more confusing.

Sorry for your loss.
Yes, pretty much everything you have said is correct.
Up here they are the rules we are supposed to have been following for about a month now. I literally don't know a single person who has taken any notice of them.

 

[shadow123]

Thanks

Glad it wasnt me being thick(very good chance I was).

 

[colinsunderland]

Thanks

Glad it wasnt me being thick(very good chance I was).

You can meet in your garden though, which is something we can't do, so fingers crossed the weathers ok. Or just do what everyone else is, and let her in, as long as you don't have loads round, no one will know.
There was a kids party in my street the first day of the increased restrictions, about 8 kids, 6 of them in the same class at school, with a bouncy castle. Some sad twat rang the police on then, makes no sense that you could take your child to an indoor soft play where they could be mixing with 30 other kids they have never met, yet outside your house, they can't play on the same thing, less people, with kids they sit next to, play with, eat with, 5 days a week for 6+ hours a day.