Corona virus - Covid 19 discussion

[gonzo fonso]

i just wondered if anyone knows why on the LIL DEVIL slot the picture of the two ladies(the one on the right)is wearing a red mask ??? this game was released much before Covid19 hit ?? just makes me wonder thats all

 

[Kroffe]

I think the flowers you see growing between the two ladies is supposed to be breadseed poppy. (used to make opium,morphine,heroin etc)
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Not sure if they use masks when refining poppy into things like heroin.
Could just be the fact that the poppy field seems to be on fire and unlike the goody two shoes angel the lil devil on the righ actually knows whats burning.

Maybe she grew up in Japan, and is currently fighting a cold.
Wearing a mask while having a cold is pretty common there.

We could ask the BTG rep if they predicted the pandemic, or maybe in a failed attempt at making Bonanza 2.0 they accidentally created covid instead.
Im not sure they would admit to it even if that was the case, its hard enough trying to find out why scatters do not appear in the max megaways spins on some sites.

 

[gonzo fonso]

thanks for the reply,its nice to think its nothing to do with Covid19 for once

 

[Kroffe]

I wouldnt rule it out.
I mean, they did create the megaways pandemic, maybe that was just a warm-up.

 

[mack341]

Generally speaking masks have been handy to evil doers e.g. Bank robbers and ninjas are two that spring to mind. But knowing btg it was probably used to save their artist the hassle of designing the rest of the face.

 

[Kroffe]

Generally speaking masks have been handy to evil doers e.g. Bank robbers and ninjas are two that spring to mind. But knowing btg it was probably used to save their artist the hassle of designing the rest of the face.

So this is your definition of evil doers?
Not cool, Mack.

 

[dealer wins]

Seriously? Are you for real? My 5 year old cat has a larger IQ than you if you believe this BS.

hmmmm.

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The ministry said later in the day that the substance that had been mixed in may have been metal. "It's a substance that reacts to magnets," a ministry official said. "It could be metal."

 

[dealer wins]

Oh look, another wild conspiracy theory, now a conspiracy fact.

I will be totally exonerated on every comment on this thread, within the next year or 2.

 

[mack341]

Giving melinda equal billing provided his foundation with a more friendly & humane image, the bill gates foundation sounds a lot more toxic and self-interest driven.

 

[Kroffe]

Vaccine passports have been around since 1930ish.
Is there anything about this new vaccine passport that makes it scarier than those that have been around 90 years?

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[mack341]

Vaccine passports have been around since 1930ish.
Is there anything about this new vaccine passport that makes it scarier than those that have been around 90 years?

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Have you got one, or ever known someone who has?

They were for travelling mostly to areas with tropical diseases afaik, not a 1 week holiday to spain, where they have the same covid we have.

Now we're going to need them to go to the local nightclub in a few weeks, and the vaccines aren't even that good at stopping you catch covid or passing it on either, so really no point to the passport from a public health angle.

 

[Kroffe]

Have you got one, or ever known someone who has?

They were for travelling mostly to areas with tropical diseases afaik, not a 1 week holiday to spain, where they have the same covid we have.

Now we're going to need them to go to the local nightclub in a few weeks, and the vaccines aren't even that good at stopping you catch covid or passing it on either, so really no point to the passport from a public health angle.

Did the government implement those rules or is it up to the establishment to deicde if they will require it or not?
What date do the new rules take effect?

I dont do tropical countries.
Too hot and too many insects.

 

[dealer wins]

Dont want to sound rude, but my gov can shoe their vaccine passport up their anus.

And lets have another conspiracy truth, they mistakenly released their vaccine passport app, and pulled it within 15 minutes. not before screenshots were taken.

Is this really what people want, even people thank think Im a lowlife cunt?

 

[bowki]

Have you got one, or ever known someone who has?

They were for travelling mostly to areas with tropical diseases afaik, not a 1 week holiday to spain, where they have the same covid we have.

Now we're going to need them to go to the local nightclub in a few weeks, and the vaccines aren't even that good at stopping you catch covid or passing it on either, so really no point to the passport from a public health angle.

You dont have one? Real question. Dont you get one in England when you are vaccinated as a child? Polio, Measles, Hepatitis, ...?

 

[bowki]

Is this really what people want, even people thank think Im a lowlife cunt?

I don't like to call people names, but yeah, that's what we want. Back to normal. We can only achieve that by vaccinating as many people as possible.

You obviously don't trust the vaccine so what is your answer? Do nothing? Whats your solution?

 

[sufferinsilence]

You dont have one? Real question. Dont you get one in England when you are vaccinated as a child? Polio, Measles, Hepatitis, ...?

Same in Belgium, as a baby you already get a vaccine passport and they're all stored in your global medical file anyway.

 

[mack341]

You dont have one? Real question. Dont you get one in England when you are vaccinated as a child? Polio, Measles, Hepatitis, ...?

Your vaccine record is kept in your medical file at your GP afaik, I think there use to be a nhs card which may have noted the dates of your baby jabs, but probably lost that years ago. Apparently I had a tetanus jab in january 2001, I do not remember having that, the nurse must've sneak jabbed me

 

[mack341]

Did the government implement those rules or is it up to the establishment to deicde if they will require it or not?
What date do the new rules take effect?

I dont do tropical countries.
Too hot and too many insects.

Not sure if they have voted it through parliament yet but sometime in september is the mooted date, I think labour want a negative test as an added option. It will be as popular as sharing a trapped lift with a person who has the runs. No doubt they'll make having a 3rd jab booster a requirement.

 

[dealer wins]

This is grim too.

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[bowki]

This is grim too.

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And they turned the fricking frogs gay ?

 

[dealer wins]

This is getting evil on another level now. Locking out people from society. What next, death camps, because this is where we are heading make no mistake. 3 weeks to flatten the curve remember.

 

[paul7388]

Got to say this whole vaccine thing is getting out of hand.

In Scotland it was we will follow what JCVI says regarding vaccines. Now that they say there is no real benefits of giving healthy kids the vaccine they will now follow other avenues to get all kids they can vaccinated.

And now flu. Yes there is a flu jag. Many vulnerable get it every year. But most healthy adults do not require or get it.

Yet now we are getting told it is a deadly virus and kills thousands every year. And from tomorrow they will start offering the flu jags to all pupils in Scotland. I get giving it to all young kids. But why now give it to healthy 12 to 16 year olds that have never had it before.

And basically only real reason they are trying to introduce the vaccine passport in night clubs is to try and force the younger adults into getting the jag or they will have no life. Sorry it is getting out of hand now.

 

[mack341]

Enough of the JCVI didn't want the inevitable harm on their conscience imo, basically sociopaths elsewhere, with no such qualms, will now overrule their advice, and then it's left up to the parents, or young children themselves to decide from the mixed messages. The govts are displaying clear signs of vaccine mania, with the real intention to misuse them for other ends, surveillance and further control and power over the public.

 

[dealer wins]

This is chilling.

 

[Mr_Slot5]

Lordy, the drama on this thread over a fecking vaccine. Anyone would think they have been proposing to inject diarrhoea into people.

The benefit to giving the jabs to younger teenagers is quite clear in my mind. The evidence suggests they are less likely to suffer side effects than older teens/young adults and secondly, even these first gen vaccines are shown to cut transmission (even if not by as much as first thought). When you have viral hotbeds like schools, ANY reduction in transmission be it 20/30/40% will have an effect further up the age pyramid. Ergo, even though there may be minimal benefit to the individual, you're effectively immunising to break transmission chains that will affect others.

That last part was not for the JCVI to pass judgement on, and I believe that wasn't part of their reckoning...it was merely to assess the usefulness of the vaccine in preventing severe disease for that particular age group. There is a reason why most other developed nations are vaccinating down to age 12.

There's nothing remotely 'chilling' or 'sinister' in any of this and to be frank, I'm shocked that anyone with even half a functioning brain cell can see it any other way.

 

[mack341]

Isn't the first rule of medicine 'do no harm'...impossible to inject the spike protein into millions of children without some already known effects -myocarditis- and possibly other unknown long term ones happening.

Hospitals have been a hotspot of transmission not schools, children fight it off quickly and natural immunity is broad and durable.

The logic that youngsters should be injected in order to further protect the triple jabbed, [by this winter] rather than themselves, is surely on shaky ground. If this is the argument why stop at 12yrs old, surely nan and grandad will be in frequent contact with grandchildren below that age?

There is no way to my mind that children can consent in the same way an adult can, and yet the uk vaccine minister is suggesting they can override their parent's wishes. This is an outrageous undermining of the family and the parent's rights, it's their child not the state's.

 

[Mr_Slot5]

Isn't the first rule of medicine 'do no harm'...impossible to inject the spike protein into millions of children without some already known effects -myocarditis- and possibly other unknown long term ones happening.

Hospitals have been a hotspot of transmission not schools, children fight it off quickly and natural immunity is broad and durable.

The logic that youngsters should be injected in order to further protect the triple jabbed, [by this winter] rather than themselves, is surely on shaky ground. If this is the argument why stop at 12yrs old, surely nan and grandad will be in frequent contact with grandchildren below that age?

There is no way to my mind that children can consent in the same way an adult can, and yet the uk vaccine minister is suggesting they can override their parent's wishes. This is an outrageous undermining of the family and the parent's rights, it's their child not the state's.

Schools are a hotbed of transmission, you only need to look at the correlation between school term starts and case numbers to see that. The correlation is clear.

Of course, vaccinations should happen via consent and it should not be forced...but I've never suggested it should be forced. However, if a parent wishes their child to be vaccinated then this should be permitted just as by the same token a parent should be able to refuse. For this decision to be afforded, the vaccine has to be approved for use for that age range (like it is in many other countries).

As for myocarditis, the risk is less in a 12 year old than it is in a fully consenting 18 year old.

It all boils down to a fundamental point. Even if the vaccines block one transmission chain, that's potentially one life saved further down the line. The reality is that many transmission chains will be blocked by vaccinating younger teens. It's OK pointing to triple jabbed individuals, but there are people who cannot have the jab at all or who are so immunocompromised that the jab is not as effective as it is on a healthy person. The government has to look at all angles and make a decision...that's simply not the job of the JCVI and is why the government has the casting decision. It's what they are elected in to do...make the tough decisions.

 

[mack341]

Schools are a hotbed of transmission, you only need to look at the correlation between school term starts and case numbers to see that. The correlation is clear.

Of course, vaccinations should happen via consent and it should not be forced...but I've never suggested it should be forced. However, if a parent wishes their child to be vaccinated then this should be permitted just as by the same token a parent should be able to refuse. For this decision to be afforded, the vaccine has to be approved for use for that age range (like it is in many other countries).

As for myocarditis, the risk is less in a 12 year old than it is in a fully consenting 18 year old.

It all boils down to a fundamental point. Even if the vaccines block one transmission chain, that's potentially one life saved further down the line. The reality is that many transmission chains will be blocked by vaccinating younger teens. It's OK pointing to triple jabbed individuals, but there are people who cannot have the jab at all or who are so immunocompromised that the jab is not as effective as it is on a healthy person. The government has to look at all angles and make a decision...that's simply not the job of the JCVI and is why the government has the casting decision. It's what they are elected in to do...make the tough decisions.

Covid: Schools aren't infection hubs, says public health boss -bbc 3rd sept 2021.

An unwell person, say in a hospital setting, will host a greater reservoir of virus load than a healthy youngster, other patients in for something else then catch covid while in the hospital. I also haven't seen reports of school teachers being at greater risk than say shop workers.

The vaccines already permit a fair degree of transmission so those immunocompromised will still likely be isolating now, and taking extra precautions. I think even with every 12-15 yrs old jabbed that won't change a lot. I believe though an effective therapeutic medicine could make a difference to public fear levels in that regard.

Israel has vaccinated youngsters and yet they currently have some of the highest infection rates in the world.

I'm glad we agree on consent, however that is being slightly undermined by high levels of censorship, suppressing dissenting voices of scientists and docs, and accounts of potential vaccine injury/side effects. Informed consent needs full disclosure and open scientific debate, then as an individual/parent you make your mind up, it's not perfect but the alternative of no free choice is worse.

Communist style regimes always ride roughshod over the individual and his rights, the clip posted of dan andrews shows a belligerence towards the individual, let's not discard our long-held civil freedoms in western societies because of covid, it's not sensible.

 

[Bunbu]

Guess what has been trending in the last hour across all social networks.

"NEWLY RELEASED documents provide details of US-funded research on..coronaviruses at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
The Intercept has obtained more than 900 pages of documents detailing..work of..EcoHealth Alliance..at the Chinese lab.."

"The materials further reveal that the the grants also supported the construction--in Wuhan--of novel chimeric MERS-related coronaviruses that combined spike genes from one MERS-related coronavirus with genetic information from another MERS-related coronavirus."

 

[dealer wins]

All the actual truth coming out now.

Its coming thick and fast, and people in power will need arresting soon for crimes against humanity.

 

[sufferinsilence]

Who are we arresting? The American presidents from 2014 and 2019/2020 who funded and re-funded this? Or the Chinese scientists who did the research?

 

[dealer wins]

Anyone involved in funding or authorising gain of function research.

 

[geordiecolin]

Anyone involved in funding or authorising gain of function research.

I admire your romantic outlook yet you are vilified in here? Most have no idea about what is about to come.

 

[mack341]

The independent now running an article referring to ivermectin as a horse dewormer, is this why it's discoverer won a nobel prize and it's listed on the WHO list of essential medicines. A blatantly, disingenous tactic to smear a wonder drug that may help, especially when given early.

 

[Kroffe]

The independent now running an article referring to ivermectin as a horse dewormer, is this why it's discoverer won a nobel prize and it's listed on the WHO list of essential medicines. A blatantly, disingenous tactic to smear a wonder drug that may help, especially when given early.

Would you be happy if they referred to it as a people dewormer?
Its main use is to treat conditiions caused by parasitic worms, no?

Its probably used more on livestock (and anti vaxxers at the moment) than people, so calling it a horse dewormer i a pretty accurate description of the drug and what its used for.

 

[paul7388]

Would you be happy if they referred to it as a people dewormer?
Its main use is to treat conditiions caused by parasitic worms, no?

Its probably used more on livestock (and anti vaxxers at the moment) than people, so calling it a horse dewormer i a pretty accurate description of the drug and what its used for.

They could now call it covid curer tho and let the poor horses keep their worms.

 

[Kroffe]

They could now call it covid curer tho and let the poor horses keep their worms.

Im not sure they want to keep them.

Its a bit ironic that the same group of people that like to call vaccinated people 'sheep' are now ending up in the hospital after overdosing on medicine made for livestock.
Sad and funny at the same time.

 

[geordiecolin]

They could now call it covid curer tho and let the poor horses keep their worms.

Im not sure they want to keep them.
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Its a bit ironic that the same group of people that like to call vaccinated people 'sheep' are now ending up in the hospital after overdosing on medicine made for livestock.
Sad and funny at the same time.

That was made up bullshit. Sad but funny at the same time. Research it.
As for ivermectin being an animal de-wormer goes I suggest you doing some research on it.

Animals have been treat by countless medicines that are commonly known to treat humans. Again,do some research

 

[mack341]

Would you be happy if they referred to it as a people dewormer?
Its main use is to treat conditiions caused by parasitic worms, no?

Its probably used more on livestock (and anti vaxxers at the moment) than people, so calling it a horse dewormer i a pretty accurate description of the drug and what its used for.

If you think this is 'straight honest' reporting/journalism then there is nothing I can say.

 

[geordiecolin]

If you think this is 'straight honest' reporting/journalism then there is nothing I can say.

Totally pointless Mack

 

[Kroffe]

That was made up bullshit. Sad but funny at the same time. Research it.
As for ivermectin being an animal de-wormer goes I suggest you doing some research on it.

Animals have been treat by countless medicines that are commonly known to treat humans. Again,do some research

Thats why i said they could call it a people dewormer instead if that would make the article seem more honest.
Thats the main use for the drug, right?

 

[geordiecolin]

Thats why i said they could call it a people dewormer instead if that would make the article seem more honest.
Thats the main use for the drug, right?

No it is not correct. Do some research instead of simply drinking the kool aid.

 

[paul7388]

Suppose on the bright side if it does not cure covid at least you would die without an itchy head .

 

[Kroffe]

No it is not correct. Do some research instead of simply drinking the kool aid.

You could share your knowledge since you seem to have done the research?
What is it mainly used for if not for fighting parasitic worms in people and animals?

 

[paul7388]

You could share your knowledge since you seem to have done the research?
What is it mainly used for if not for fighting parasitic worms in people and animals?

Head lice

 

[Kroffe]

Head lice

Hmm, then why does people using it cause so many doctors to scratch their heads?
Seems counterproductive.

Is it fair to say its an antiparasitic drug used for paraistes on the inside and outside of the body?

 

[mack341]

Just call it a wonder drug, that's what it has been since its discovery, reducing it to 'horse dewormer' is an attempt to belittle it, to try to stop its use for covid gaining traction.

Edit: Just reading it is also being explored as an anticancer medicine with great potential.

 

[Jono777]

Nice to see the love is still going strong in this thread, yup nothing better to do or post.

 

[sufferinsilence]

Looked up then why it got its Nobel prize in particular.

"William C. Campbell and Satoshi Ōmura discovered a new drug, Avermectin, the derivatives of which have radically lowered the incidence of River Blindness and Lymphatic Filariasis, as well as showing efficacy against an expanding number of other parasitic diseases."

It doesn't say "coronavirus related diseases". It clearly got its Nobel prize for different reasons.

I don't have issues at all with drugs being tested and researched for other reasons. But in this instance there's quacks all around the world selling this drug for 10-100x the price of what they paid for it, just making a quick buck because they know there's demand for it in particular circles. Meanwhile there's people and animals who need this drug and can't get it because it's sold out...

 

[dealer wins]

Does no one think its weird that Ivermectin is still "In trails" and not allowed to be used in the US or UK, even though it has a perfect safely record when given to humans, but brand new mRNA technology vaxxines, with zero medium or long term safely trials, are going into billions of peoples arms, including children, and under extreme coercion, blackmail and threat of being locked out of society.