Club World Group and Cashout Delays?

[CANADAMAN99]

Hey guys,

This is more of a question for the Club World rep here and definitely not a complaint but when I have requested a withdrawl in the past, Club World has always at least acknowledged it by the next day. Often times it takes a few days to get the money in my acct but they at least process the withdrawl next day. I recently requested a small payout, about 3-4 days ago and it's still sitting pending in my account. When I contacted live help they told me it was because of a snowstorm and no cashiers could come in. Does this seem a little bit off to anyone else? Normally Club World is top notch at cashouts and I find it a bit suprising that they are unable to find anyone to do their cashouts. Can the Club World Rep comment on when this will be fixed and why no one has taken care of pending withdrawls yet? They clearly have the manpower to process deposites? What's going on?

Thank you for your time and again this is not a complaint yet but rather a question.

 

[anniemac]

A snow storm being the cause of a cashout delay is not all that far fetched. PM the rep here and I bet he will be able to help you.

 

[CANADAMAN99]

A snow storm being the cause of a cashout delay is not all that far fetched. PM the rep here and I bet he will be able to help you.

Right, that's what i figured, and like I said I wasn't pointing fingers yet because Club World is so unbeleivably good about it usually. Just wanted to get a clearer idea when they would be able to process. Thanks!

 

[vinylweatherman]

I think Club World "back office" is in the UK, and if this is so, this is actually a VALID excuse, despite the fact it looks rather far fetched.

Many parts of the UK have been "snowed in" since the end of November. Worst hit has been Scotland, the East coast, the West coast, Wales, and Southern England. Many businesses have had many workers not turn up, and processing a cashout is NOT what the authorities would consider an "essential service", even though the businesses might.

Fewer staff means longer waits for customers. Many online stores have simply stopped taking orders in order to catch up on the backlog.

 

[CANADAMAN99]

I think Club World "back office" is in the UK, and if this is so, this is actually a VALID excuse, despite the fact it looks rather far fetched.

Many parts of the UK have been "snowed in" since the end of November. Worst hit has been Scotland, the East coast, the West coast, Wales, and Southern England. Many businesses have had many workers not turn up, and processing a cashout is NOT what the authorities would consider an "essential service", even though the businesses might.

Fewer staff means longer waits for customers. Many online stores have simply stopped taking orders in order to catch up on the backlog.

Yeah thanks and I have heard news of the storms in the UK being absolutely horrible. Peoples' well being is far more important than cashouts so hope that all are safe over there. Guess Ill just have to be a bit more patient but was hoping to get that money for Xmas shopping since it is around the corner eh?

 

[vinylweatherman]

Yeah thanks and I have heard news of the storms in the UK being absolutely horrible. Peoples' well being is far more important than cashouts so hope that all are safe over there. Guess Ill just have to be a bit more patient but was hoping to get that money for Xmas shopping since it is around the corner eh?

It may not be anywhere near as cold as in the US or Canada, but when that cold air comes, it first has to cross a fair bit of WARM SEA, which is where all the snow comes from.
A similar thing happens near the Great Lakes when cold northerlies bring very cold air from Canada over relatively warm lake water, and dumps the resulting snow in places like Chicago, known as "lake effect snow".

Depending on how fast the banks work, you may still have the money in time. The snow has eased off a little today, and it was mainly the South West that got it yesterday.

You had better pray the CWC offices are not in "the Midlands" though

 

[chuchu59]

at least they didnt give me this excuse. my cashout was declined at allstarslots for a reason even live chat staff was unable to answer. maybe their fingers were too frost-bitten to handle the withdrawal.

 

[just play]

at least they didnt give me this excuse. my cashout was declined at allstarslots for a reason even live chat staff was unable to answer. maybe their fingers were too frost-bitten to handle the withdrawal.

Can you share it here?

 

[Nifty29]

It was only a matter of time before this thread was hijacked by those with an agenda.

E.g. I'm sure justplay has a cashout pending at CW, which is why they want more details. Of course, I mean it wouldn't be to kick off another CW bashfest or anything .....

 

[just play]

It was only a matter of time before this thread was hijacked by those with an agenda.

E.g. I'm sure justplay has a cashout pending at CW, which is why they want more details. Of course, I mean it wouldn't be to kick off another CW bashfest or anything .....

WTF are you talking about? I don't play at CW I play at High Noon, and don't believe I have cashed out since my big hit you fucking moron.

Add...I don't bashfest, I state my opinion. I can of course play somewhere and still think they were in the wrong.

 

[just play]

It was only a matter of time before this thread was hijacked by those with an agenda.

E.g. I'm sure justplay has a cashout pending at CW, which is why they want more details. Of course, I mean it wouldn't be to kick off another CW bashfest or anything .....

I guarantee your real life sucks, so you have to "try" and feel superior here, I mean look at your name, your by far anything but "nifty". You have a small dick don't you? Or a more masculine wife than yourself? Something.

He started it, don't come down on me.

 

[LHofsdal]

Many parts of the UK have been "snowed in" since the end of November. Worst hit has been Scotland, the East coast, the West coast, Wales, and Southern England. Many businesses have had many workers not turn up, and processing a cashout is NOT what the authorities would consider an "essential service", even though the businesses might.

I hear ya..... Last week it snowed here in Syracuse, NY for 95 hours staight. Had almost 5 feet of snow by the time it all ended. The wind made it even worse, everything here was closed for 2 or 3 days, depending where you lived. The road crews just couldn't keep up with all the drifting snow. I had a snow drift in the front of our hedges that was almost 6 feet high. My daughter loved it, no school and played outside a good portion of the day. I enjoyed the first day, but man I tell ya, I didn't think I was that much out of shape, the second day my body felt like I went 10 rounds with Mike Tyson!

LH

 

[chuchu59]

I guarantee your real life sucks, so you have to "try" and feel superior here, I mean look at your name, your by far anything but "nifty". You have a small dick don't you? Or a more masculine wife than yourself? Something.

He started it, don't come down on me.

nifty is a straightforward person and i wouldnt agree with your comments on this wonderful person.

 

[Nifty29]

I guarantee your real life sucks, so you have to "try" and feel superior here, I mean look at your name, your by far anything but "nifty". You have a small dick don't you? Or a more masculine wife than yourself? Something.

He started it, don't come down on me.

Right.

So, first you insult my intellect , then my penis, then my wife.

Geez mate it ain't me with the issues.

You are one sick puppy.

Now go away it's grown-ups time.

 

[jetset]

Wow, this debate is really not going anywhere good - time to pull back and cool off on the insults, guys.

 

[just play]

nifty is a straightforward person and i wouldnt agree with your comments on this wonderful person.

Maybe your definition of wonderful differs from mine. I'm sick of seeing him spew his rightious attitude at anyone that doesn't agree with his know it all brain.

Chuchu, do you actually read what he writes to people?

 

[just play]

Right.

So, first you insult my intellect , then my penis, then my wife.

Geez mate it ain't me with the issues.

You are one sick puppy.

Now go away it's grown-ups time.

I'm not your mate.

But it's perfectly ok for you to insult anyone you wish? And I am the sick puppy? Nifty, that's ALL you do here...correct peoples spelling, the way they write their posts, their intellect, jeez I could go on forever.

I won't take it, don't really care who likes you, I don't, and wont stand to be insulted and not take a shot back.

 

[ksech]

@LHofsdal: I am about an hour and a half south of you. Please do me a favour and KEEP the snow up there! I would not make a very good eskimo...I hate the snow, I hate the cold, and I hate the wind. (Whoever stole my sunshine, PLEASE RETURN IT!) And as I get older, I dislike winter more and more.

Now, what was this thread about???

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[3mptyseat]

Hey y'all. This thread has lead to an epiphany for me, and I got some chips on a poker table downstairs, but I have to write my take first. I am not taking a side nor am I bashing CWCasinos. I choose to also refrain from kissing their proverbial buttocks as well. I love CWC and their family of casinos, I rarely play at other RTG,s and though I think they should have a 24/7 cashier, I think every casino should have one. What I will say is that they are not always forthwith when it comes to specifics and in fact, I have taken exception with their rhetoric in the past, and currently have been arguing with their CSR's since Monday morning. They advertise here and basically assert their cashouts take 24 hours. They advertise the same elsewhere, and this can be true, weekends excluded, and thats pretty much as good as u can get, but since its not always exactly accurate, people get heated...

I have been arguing with them off and on for months, and I can't insult you readers with a valid excuse. In fact, I am ashamed of it... They represent the top tier RTG's and they get it done all of the time, and they get it done on-time most of the time. I only opine on this topic for one reason: to say, I agree with the assertion that when one trusts a casino, why blast them for a minor issue? I know I have done it and I know why... BC I get mad that I don't have my w/d in the timeline I expect... And in the past, when it postponed or obstructed my immediate gaming, I bitched and moaned and said some things that were out of line. This thread is another chapter in the file of proof that emotions fuel many complaints. Which I for one intend to remember everytime I get upset with a casino I play at and trust.

So I ask, With all the BS rogue RTG's out there, and some of the old 'good guys' clearly on their way to the 'Not Recommended' section, why post negative publicity about the good guys?

I am the first to say that its 100 percent absolutely f%cking ridiculous that 24-72 hour payouts make a casino elite (with a couple other qualities too)... But thats the way it is, and for now, the way it will remain. By blasting a trusted casino which one deposits at, esp. posting this dirty laundry at a highly trafficked site such as CM, one helps put that casino at risk... Bad publicity, potentially less clients, less income, no more casino, potentially... (But in this case I think the way the OP has responded to counter points may discredit this post more than it could ever defame CWC)

I know I have blasted casinos that I trust for BS they were spitting at me, and I realize their is some hypocrisy in those posts and this one. I have admitted my hypocrisy in the past, and I assert that given the unfortunate circumstance as it is (mainly, that I am human) I will undoubtedly contradict myself in the future... I guess my point is, I now wonder if my bitching has not contributed to some of my old fav. casinos getting less business, and in turn, becoming even worse casinos.

In theory there is a cyclical and degenerative nature to the "I have a problem with my casino, I get mad, I post the BS, they make it right, which I always thought they would, I post that they made it right, I move on, and everything is okay..." behavior. When it happens enough, the later complaints could very well be borne of the older complaints... And so on.

I am drunk. I think that made sense. I am going to get my chips off of the table downstairs at the Silver Legacy and go to bed. Good day Meisterheads!

 

[The Dude]

WTF are you talking about? ... and don't believe I have cashed out since my big hit you fucking moron.

...You have a small dick don't you? Or a more masculine wife than yourself? Something.

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I won't take it, don't really care who likes you, I don't, and wont stand to be insulted and not take a shot back.

Nifty never insulted your spouse, your sex parts, nor did he call you a fucking moron.

14 day suspension.

jas2587 - 14 day thanking privileges suspended for thanking the "fucking moron" post.

 

[LHofsdal]

@LHofsdal: I am about an hour and a half south of you. Please do me a favour and KEEP the snow up there! I would not make a very good eskimo...I hate the snow, I hate the cold, and I hate the wind. (Whoever stole my sunshine, PLEASE RETURN IT!) And as I get older, I dislike winter more and more.

Now, what was this thread about???

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Ksech,

If your ever up this way, PM me, we can do lunch or something.

Happy Holidays.
LH

 

[Glunn11]

It's quite depressing, actually, how the OP was incredibly considerate in broaching the issue and the thread managed to evolve into yet another bash-fest.

Although I spawned the demon known as "Club World USA -- Proof of Full Time Employment?," I really don't think the CW group would just up and not pay people for no apparent reason. As others have stated, the snowstorm is a pretty legitimate excuse.

Of course, with the recent Betfair fiasco and the GNUF thread, things have proven to be uncertain. Nonetheless, I doubt an organization with such a long-standing reputation as CW would up and turn rogue over a small payout.

Hope you get your funds soon, Canada! Keep us posted

 

[3mptyseat]

Any updates?

I know quite a few of us who requested w/d's from last thursday thru the weekend and beyond are still waiting... Has anyone been paid? I made mine on Saturday, so I am trying to be realistic and optimistic at the same time, today is a longshot I imagine though. And I could just go down to the store and reload a card, or sell some pokerstars or cake funds for netspend on the popular poker forum with the mathematical equation for a name, but I kinda like the suspense.

Oh yeah, someone tell us if and when u get paid...

 

[3mptyseat]

I am updating....

I just check my allstarslots acct, and then my QT, and I have been paid from a Saturday past request. Hope this might help those waiting to estimate when they might get theres. TY CWC, also, we have agreed to disagree so often and so amicably, I feel like you must be family long lost...

 

[blacklabrador]

It was only a matter of time before this thread was hijacked by those with an agenda.

E.g. I'm sure justplay has a cashout pending at CW, which is why they want more details. Of course, I mean it wouldn't be to kick off another CW bashfest or anything .....

I re-read the posts above yours, can you explain to me where it turned into a bashing thread Nifty? Anytime someone expresses their opinion of Club World or 3Dice you get offended if they dont kiss thier ass and say good things about them, so that leads me to believe you play on both of those sites because you defend them as if they are family. I don't get it. Why can't someone express their previous experiences about a casino, good or bad, without someone bitching about it? Why not just let it be for others to read and move onto other threads?

I played on club world and never had an issue with them overall, getting paid, deposits, nothing. My only concern was RTG changed their payouts about 4 months ago and it was so bad that numerous people came on here and had stories of 30+ deposits with no cashouts. I had a string of about 20, then off to the trashbin they went for good. I will never play there again simply because the slots are tight as can be anymore.

I have been playing online since 1997 and I have played on poker sites, sportsbook sites and casinos. If I tell it how it is about so and so casino, I see that as helping others on this board forming their own opinions so they can maybe steer clear of the bad apples. If I have a wonderful experience about a casino, I will do the same thing based on my REAL play and experience I had with that casino in the past. You seem pretty blunt like myself but if others are going to be as blunt as yourself, you have to give and take a little, not just give give give.

 

[CANADAMAN99]

Cashout Processed.......

but not received yet. As far as all the other stuff thats been said I just have to say that the customer service I have encountered at CW is the best in the business. Probably better than many of the brick and mortar places too, as far as some things are concerned. These guys really go the extra mile in most cases to make sure their customers are happy. As far as gaming, often it sucks. But thats gambling and its gonna suck in varying degrees no matter where we play. We'll usually never catch the wins we see in the winners section but even if we win half of that a couple times a year at lest we get that feeling.

SOME RANDOM THOUGHTS PUT TOGETHER VERY POORLY:

Anyway, what Im realizing is that the casinos have free reign on the gambling market and theres nothing we can do about it. As has been said many times before, just don't play if you don't like what happens. I love the idea of an accredited casino and I love this website, but sometimes I feel like the accredited section should be trimmed down a bit. I feel like some of those places don't have what it takes to be on CM's accredited list. Sometimes I feel like player experience should have some say in this list but I have no idea how this would work. I've often thought it would be cool to take $100 and play it and show results at every one of those casinos. I think that would be cool. Even though it may not give a "real" picture into what will happen for each player, at least we would be able to see how some of the smaller wins play out. CM is a wonderful site though and I'm not saying I know what's best for it, because it is clearly doing a great job on it's own.

I dont beleive what they say about the high cashout percentages at the online casinos.....but than again I always lose at land based casinos too, so am I supposed to not beleive them? Actually now that I think about it, I always have better luck online than at land based casinos, at least sometimes when I play online I cashout. That rarely if never happens at land based.

We are gamblers and will never win huge unless we lose huge. Me, I like to find myself somewhere in the comfortable lower part. Don't lose my a@@ and don't win a fortune. That keeps me in the game. I have been extremely mad at the CW group after losing $250 and not hitting more than a $15 hit but the fact is that that could happen anywhere I play. This stuff is completely random and in that randomness, the CW group has been one of the best and most consistent places for me to play. I have also won $30 betting in .20 cent incraments so it goes both ways even if it is a little lopsided.

Thanks Club World, Cobie especially and all the other customer service folks who keep me coming back to that casino. I'd appreciate it if you could arrange a huge jackpot to hit in my account soon but if not, Ill settle for a grand or two. Even though after many long losing streaks I swear Ill never game with you again, your customer service always makes up for the huge losses.

Thanks again ya'll for always being able to answer questions immediately and Happy Holidays.

 

[silcnlayc]

blacklabrador: I played on club world and never had an issue with them overall, getting paid, deposits, nothing. My only concern was RTG changed their payouts about 4 months ago and it was so bad that numerous people came on here and had stories of 30+ deposits with no cashouts. I had a string of about 20, then off to the trashbin they went for good. I will never play there again simply because the slots are tight as can be anymore.

Very well put blacklabrador. You were smarter than many of us in quitting early...I was in denial for a long time and when I hit 100+ DEPOSITS, it then hit me the stupidity of what I was doing at these casinos that have never taken more than a few deposits before a withdrawal which used to be the norm..I fell into the catagory of..."the next one" surely will be better and I continued in this denial until that benchmark...the 100+....

I agree, players, expecially newbies need to be warned about the changes in the air..even if others are still in denial..that does not make it right to allow this not to be voiced..and LOUDLY! Games have changed..payouts have changed...money to be won is scarce...

So, I agree...opinions are just that, but when one EXPERIENCES something that others are too...the only way to know is if one SPEAKS out about it, no matter how hard others try to shout over you and say it is imagination etc ...this is the only way many can come together and compare their experiences...not just those that stand on the sideline shouting how wrong we are and who do not have a clue of what they say because they have not gone and did what we did..deposited continuously....they would rather speak from their own fantasy world...and not invest a penny at the same places we played at to prove us wrong...

(This is in no way a reflection on CWC...I already stated this earlier that it is the one casino that I trusted in the utmost and I continue playing there and at their sister sites. Just wanted to clarify this.)

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[bryand]

FWIW, I just received my last withdrawal from Club World into QT just 18 hours after requesting it. I have been a member of CWG for several years and have never had a problem with payouts. I wonder if some of the CWG-bashing is actually sour grapes over bad sessions.

Whenever this type of thread comes up I think it helps for members to briefly report their recent experiences - good or bad - with the casino in question in order to give the thread some context.

 

[blacklabrador]

Very well put blacklabrador. You were smarter than many of us in quitting early...I was in denial for a long time and when I hit 100+ DEPOSITS, it then hit me the stupidity of what I was doing at these casinos that have never taken more than a few deposits before a withdrawal which used to be the norm..I fell into the catagory of..."the next one" surely will be better and I continued in this denial until that benchmark...the 100+....

I agree, players, expecially newbies need to be warned about the changes in the air..even if others are still in denial..that does not make it right to allow this not to be voiced..and LOUDLY! Games have changed..payouts have changed...money to be won is scarce...

So, I agree...opinions are just that, but when one EXPERIENCES something that others are too...the only way to know is if one SPEAKS out about it, no matter how hard others try to shout over you and say it is imagination etc ...this is the only way many can come together and compare their experiences...not just those that stand on the sideline shouting how wrong we are and who do not have a clue of what they say because they have not gone and did what we did..deposited continuously....they would rather speak from their own fantasy world...and not invest a penny at the same places we played at to prove us wrong...

(This is in no way a reflection on CWC...I already stated this earlier that it is the one casino that I trusted in the utmost and I continue playing there and at their sister sites. Just wanted to clarify this.)

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I agree with you 100 %

Unfortunately , just like on any other message board, there will be people that are ........

A) Bullies

B) In denial

C) Just plain full of shit

Most people on this board don't fall in any of these categories which makes it a great site, some do however, I would say 10% or so. It's great to share knowledge of online gaming with others that have been playing as long as myself, we can all help each other. If that other 10% can grow up and just refrain from being Aholes when they dont agree with someones post, it would be a MUCH cleaner board . But hey, who am I to say how to run things here, I am still a newbie I guess only been here for less than 6 months or so i think.

It just irks me when people want to twist words around to make others look like they are completely bashing a casino when in fact, they are sharing REAL LIFE EXPERIENCES because they have spent their hard earned money on some of these shams that call themselves casinos. I wouldnt want my worst enemy to go through what that poor guy did that won 80K and didnt get paid. I know the feeling about hitting big and wondering if I would get paid when I hit 31k. Fortunately I hit it on Riverbelle and they never gave me nothing but a warm feeling playing with them, timely payouts, and great customer service. The money was in my account within 7 days of the hit. Oh, and not to mention FAIR slots and video poker that people can actually win on, not some home-made casino .

 

[blacklabrador]

FWIW, I just received my last withdrawal from Club World into QT just 18 hours after requesting it. I have been a member of CWG for several years and have never had a problem with payouts. I wonder if some of the CWG-bashing is actually sour grapes over bad sessions.

Whenever this type of thread comes up I think it helps for members to briefly report their recent experiences - good or bad - with the casino in question in order to give the thread some context.

Bryan it has nothing to do with people getting paid in a timely manner, it has to do with their slots no longer paying out like they use to. When a couple people start noticing a casino isnt paying like it use to, then there is a little skeptisism, but when you have HUNDREDS of people talking about how many losing sessions they have had in a row over a short time of a couple months, that is a SCREAMING red flag. That is when I deleted Club world, thank god I did, I probably saved myself 5 grand over 2 months, the $2000 that i deposited, and the 3 grand I won on another casino during that time

Customer service and 24 hour payouts go only so far, if i get average customer service, and I have to wait 48 hours to get paid but their casino is much looser, give me that casino over places like club world/3D any day of the week. I am interested in cashing out, not being friends with people in a chat room. Call me crazy, but thats just how I roll.

 

[LaurieJim]

Wow , peeps getting banned for saying whats on their minds and @ Nifty as much as I heart you, you have been acting like the forum policeman on the block imo, now Cindy's thanks button taken away from herWhat the hell is this place coming to, just not the same as in the past.

I have spoken my peace, am I banned? Oh what the fuck, ban my ass too


Im sure Just Play didnt mean to insult you but when backed in a corner and picked on, people say things, most of all when they are baited, seems to be alot of baiting going on around here, your either in the" in" group or your made to feel like an outsider, I for one think its all a bashfest and not worthy of my time and getting upset over, so I will just continue to read and watch, a lurker, may end up being alot of lurkers if this shit keeps up imo

Lurking Laurie

 

[silcnlayc]

blacklabrador: I am interested in cashing out, not being friends with people in a chat room. Call me crazy, but thats just how I roll.

Would you mind etting out of my head...or just skip over the iirevelant parts in it that do not pertain to the forum!...

lauriejim Wow , peeps getting banned for saying whats on their minds and @ Nifty as much as I heart you, you have been acting like the forum policeman on the block imo, now Cindy's thanks button taken away from herWhat the hell is this place coming to, just not the same as in the past.

I have spoken my peace, am I banned? Oh what the fuck, ban my ass too


Im sure Just Play didnt mean to insult you but when backed in a corner and picked on, people say things, most of all when they are baited, seems to be alot of baiting going on around here, your either in the" in" group or your made to feel like an outsider, I for one think its all a bashfest and not worthy of my time and getting upset over, so I will just continue to read and watch, a lurker, may end up being alot of lurkers if this shit keeps up imo

Lurking Laurie

Yes, I have become somewhat of a semi lurker also until I am tweaked to the point I must speak to help others...as you just did saying what you just posted, which is said very well...thank you for putting it as well as you have..I totally agree with all you said..lurking seems to be the way to go for many of us lately IMO..Thanks for speaking your views, observations of what is happening. going back into the corner till further "tweaked" ...

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[gloria460]

I don't know what's goin on this month but my god simmer down. He needed to be banned for what he said. speaking your mind is one thing but going the extra mile to call someone what he said isn't right.

I don't know if you guys are losing a lot of money or what but jeez Louise. It doesn't matter what the topic is it turns into something negative.


Glory

 

[Nifty29]

Wow , peeps getting banned for saying whats on their minds and @ Nifty as much as I heart you, you have been acting like the forum policeman on the block imo, now Cindy's thanks button taken away from herWhat the hell is this place coming to, just not the same as in the past.

I have spoken my peace, am I banned? Oh what the fuck, ban my ass too


Im sure Just Play didnt mean to insult you but when backed in a corner and picked on, people say things, most of all when they are baited, seems to be alot of baiting going on around here, your either in the" in" group or your made to feel like an outsider, I for one think its all a bashfest and not worthy of my time and getting upset over, so I will just continue to read and watch, a lurker, may end up being alot of lurkers if this shit keeps up imo

Lurking Laurie

Laurie.

Firstly, I had nothing to do with Cindy having her privileges revoked. Absolutely nothing at all. Cindy is the one responsible for that.

Secondly, if you think it is OK for someone to make remarks about someone's genitals, wife, and mental capacity then you are not the person I thought you were. You are stating that anyone should be able to say anything they like. Well, sure they can....but they have to take responsibility for what they say and take whatever sanction is imposed if they break the rules. Justplay not only broke the rules of the forum, they broke the rules of decency. How would you like someone to make remarks about your chest size or your partner? Think about that for a minute.

What's with the 'ban my ass for speaking my piece' comment? Nobody has been banned for 'speaking their piece' here. If one cannot speak their mind without resorting to degrading others personally then they don't deserve to be allowed to speak their mind. Remember, it's a privilege to post on these forums, not a right.

Justplay was 'cornered' and 'picked on'? Come on Laurie, this isn't the playground. We are all adults. I did not ever 'pick on' or 'corner' them - I made a comment which I will explain in a moment about where this thread was headed. How can anyone 'corner' anyone on a forum anyway?? Sorry, but that is BS. As for 'baiting'...oh geez. Where did I ask justplay to fire off a mouthfull of oral gutter trash at me? They chose to avoid the issue and attack the person, which is as low as it gets IMO. Everyone has a choice regarding how they respond to others and their views - nobody held a gun to their head forcing them to take the 'personal insult' option. I suppose it is also my fault for being offended about what was said?

Insofar as lurking and not posting, that is a personal choice. However, if you want to post in a public forum you should be prepared to have your views questioned and challenged. It is unreasonable to expect everyone to agree with your point of view, and just as unreasonable to be unprepared to present any kind of evidence etc to back up any claims that you make.

I re-read the posts above yours, can you explain to me where it turned into a bashing thread Nifty? Anytime someone expresses their opinion of Club World or 3Dice you get offended if they dont kiss thier ass and say good things about them, so that leads me to believe you play on both of those sites because you defend them as if they are family. I don't get it. Why can't someone express their previous experiences about a casino, good or bad, without someone bitching about it? Why not just let it be for others to read and move onto other threads?

I didn't say it had turned into a bashfest - I said I believed the posters' intention was to start one.

What I mean is, there is only 3 good reasons I can think of why a member would want another member to elaborate on exactly why they had their cashout declined:

1. They have a cashout pending at the same casino and so would be concerned about their own situation, or

2. To take a shot at the casino

3. Just interested.

Normally I would consider it to be #3, but given the discussion about the CW group has been closed and the obvious intention of some members to get it started/continue it elsewhere, IMO it was too much of a co-incidence considering the person involved has been vocal in their opposition to the CW situation.

justplay indicated they did not have any pending cashouts, so there is #2 gone.

The only reason left was to get another CW bashfest started via the 'back door' using ChuChu's situation as a catalyst. It is important to note that Chu did not ask for any assistance or indicate that he needed any, so IMO is wasn't about helping him either.

Now, it's possible I got it wrong - after all, it was just my opinion. However, the refusal of justplay to actually reply with any kind of reasonable argument and their incredible speed at which they descended to taking personal swipes just convinced me that I was more than likely right. I could see how someone might feel 'cornered' if they were caught out doing something - still doesn't excuse the behaviour.

Blacklabrador, you post something negative in just about every 3Dice thread going around and have done for quite some time...and you seem strongly offended by anyone who mentions this.

How is that any different from someone posting something positive in just about every 3Dice thread going around????

Everyone is welcome to voice their experiences about casinos - you said that yourself above...and, as I said, everyone is welcome to comment on your experiences and challenge any claims that you make. What's the point of posting if you don't want feedback? If you want to just make remarks etc without anyone having the opportunity to disagree, go start your own blog - at least you can just delete everything except what you write.

Anyway, the whole point is that there is no place in these forums for filth like we saw earlier in this thread, and there is no excuse for it either...and for anyone who doesn't think I practice what I preach, feel free to search all my posts and find the ones where I sink to anywhere near that level. Good luck.

 

[LaurieJim]

Im not saying what she did was right infact it was wrong and im sure she did it out of feeling baited and didnt mean it. We all are adults here and 99.9% of us have feelings and feelings can get hurt easily, when this happens things are said out of fear and the heat of the moment, its just human nature imo.

I just hate to see all the bitching and bickering and some who think they are both judge and jury here, everyone is on = common ground, its Bryans home and we all are his guests.

No, I wouldnt like anyone to say those things to me, you are right there.

Just Play is a sweet person and its not like her to say those sort of things, its just not her posting style.

Its so close to the holidays, we should all be thankful, we are alive and have our health and our familes and friends.

Heres to 2011!!!!!!!!


Laurie (Lurking)

 

[oldtrvlagt]

Nifty....if you analyze everything that is written you are going to come to a conclusion that fits. Maybe she just wanted an answer to a question. I've noticed in a couple of threads recently you do put the "snark" in to get a response and then justify your reasons. I may not agree with what she said, but, come on...you knew there would be some kind of a response, some retaliation and it would be "who, what, I didn't do anything". This is one of the reasons I don't post much anymore. I'll join the "lurkers club". Pretty soon there won't be too many people left to antagonize...wouldn't that be boring.

 

[Jasminebed]

To be honest, the OP asked a legitimate question in a respectful manner. I think it was answered pretty well, and it looks like storms have let up enough for business to be back to usual.

Justplay asked a question of Chuchu I was wondering myself. Because I'm nosy. Because I play there, and maybe someday I'll be trying to cash out with a bonus someday. Because I care what happens with players and their money. Because sometimes terms change, and I want to know that. Oh, and I'm nosy. And I like to see how casinos solve problems too.

She wrote a simple "can you share". I don't see that as the beginning of a bashfest.

Nifty, you got that woman's back up, and I do think you jumped on her. Still, no excuse for the way she lashed back, and it's out of character for her, and I sure hope justplay returns to the fold in a couple of weeks.

Chuchu, I know you don't spend as much time at CM as you used to, but as justplay so nicely asked:

Can you share?

 

[Nifty29]

To be honest, the OP asked a legitimate question in a respectful manner. I think it was answered pretty well, and it looks like storms have let up enough for business to be back to usual.

Justplay asked a question of Chuchu I was wondering myself. Because I'm nosy. Because I play there, and maybe someday I'll be trying to cash out with a bonus someday. Because I care what happens with players and their money. Because sometimes terms change, and I want to know that. Oh, and I'm nosy. And I like to see how casinos solve problems too.

She wrote a simple "can you share". I don't see that as the beginning of a bashfest.

Nifty, you got that woman's back up, and I do think you jumped on her. Still, no excuse for the way she lashed back, and it's out of character for her, and I sure hope justplay returns to the fold in a couple of weeks.

Chuchu, I know you don't spend as much time at CM as you used to, but as justplay so nicely asked:

Fair point about the wondering/nosy thing, and I did mention that is what I would usually think. My opinion at the time, rightly or wrongly, was that justplay was asking for a different purpose - and I was trying to stop another CW thread emerging as it wasn't the place.

Upon reflection, I would have waited until Chu replied and see where it went. You're right in one aspect - I shouldn't have jumped in so quickly. I do believe however that there is a difference between 'jumping in' and 'jumping on'. To me, 'jumping on' is abusing and putting someone down the minute they say something......and I don't believe I insulted her at all. As I said, I agree that I did 'jump in'. I should not have done that.

I still maintain that the response was completely disproportionate. If I had gone off the deep end, I would expect (and deserve) it right back.

Could I have avoided all this by not posting in the first place? Yes.

Would I do it again given the chance? No. I've learnt my lesson in this regard. I'm quite capable of admitting errors.

Did I say anything at all to deserve what was thrown at me? No.

I hope everyone (including justplay) has a Happy Christmas and doesn't too much!

N.B. I'm going to make it a new years resolution to be more tolerant and less 'snarky'. I refuse to turn off my BS radar though....

 

[dcpam39]

I cashed out from Club World on Monday, and have not yet been paid. Today support told me that the cashier has still not been able to come to the office, and all payouts will be delayed until after the Christmas holiday, very disappointing,
Pam

 

[Tengil]

I cashed out from Club World on Monday, and have not yet been paid. Today support told me that the cashier has still not been able to come to the office, and all payouts will be delayed until after the Christmas holiday, very disappointing,
Pam

What a professionally run business..

 

[dcpam39]

My biggest disappointment was that Wed, i was told via chat, that all of the delay issues were solved, and that every attempt would be made to make the payments by Friday. I even received an email from one of the cashiers, Stephen, on Thursday, asking to update my banking information, which was odd because i cashed out via qt.

Isn't inetbet located in the uk-did they have processing issues also due to the massive snow storm?

All casinos can do a better job of proactive communication. Instead of waiting for customers to ask, if there are issues such as delays due to natural disasters, etc, just let the customer know. I, for one, understand, and am patient. However, i get quite annoyed, when the support either doesn't provide an answer, gives inconsistent answers, or unrealistic answers.

 

[blacklabrador]

My biggest disappointment was that Wed, i was told via chat, that all of the delay issues were solved, and that every attempt would be made to make the payments by Friday. I even received an email from one of the cashiers, Stephen, on Thursday, asking to update my banking information, which was odd because i cashed out via qt.

Isn't inetbet located in the uk-did they have processing issues also due to the massive snow storm?

All casinos can do a better job of proactive communication. Instead of waiting for customers to ask, if there are issues such as delays due to natural disasters, etc, just let the customer know. I, for one, understand, and am patient. However, i get quite annoyed, when the support either doesn't provide an answer, gives inconsistent answers, or unrealistic answers.

As tight as those slots are on CW, they should have millions on hand to pay the 2 or 3 people that cashout every day. Pathetic excuse using a snowstorm.

 

[dcpam39]

Update-my withdrawal was just paid, pleasant surprise, Pam

 

[xpsch]

Lucky red

Payout Request on 24 dec. whit neteller still pending and they say beceuse It is a festive season and all withdrawals takes much longer

 

[The Viking]

i Remember gettin paid by 3 casinos on christmas day the 25th last year slotocash,box24 and gowild, so some casinos go beyond what you would expect from them i dont expect a withdrawal to be paid on the 25th as im sure cashier just like the rest of us like the day off then didnt have any pending withdrawal this year so wouldnt know and thos 3 casinos above got an ekstra point from me for that although im not to happy about box24 right now i asked them why i havent gotten any cashback all year i have deposit $2300 more then withdrawn there and they cant give me a valid answer

 

[LHofsdal]

I made a deposit with a gift card that my hubby got me for the holidays. Not a big one. 35 dollars so that my mother could play. Well we did quite well. Turned that money into 500 dollars. So after reading the new posts on here I decided to check when our withdrawal would be processed. Well this is what I got for my withdrawal requested on 12/26:

Jackson: It is still bank holiday here and the banks are not open until wednesday.

Your chat transcript will be sent to Lxxxxxxxxxxx.com at the end of your chat.

Lori: Okay so I will be processed on Wednesday?

Jackson: The withdrawals are done in a que system so if your withdrawal comes up on wednesday it will be processed,#

Lori: what?

Jackson: There are many withdrawals requested Lori and so we use a que system,

Lori: okay thank you, just no other casino has said anything about the banking holidays and not being open until wednesday

Lori: Thank you for your time have a good day.

So who knows, I would think that processesors are up and running today because if there weren't how would the money flow to the casinos? Maybe I am wrong here, but who knows. There is nothing on any wesite, or the generated e-mail of the delay now. When you cashout you still get the generated e-mail stating that withdrawals are usually done the next business day, blah blah blah....

I will just give my mother the 500 when she leaves on Wednesday. Then wait for the casino to pay me. What else can ya do right?

All the best,
LH

 

[CANADAMAN99]

Thouhghts on Club world have changed Greatly

After going to Vegas over x-mas break, I now realize what all the compaints are about regarding how awful these online casinos are. Online Casinos are a joke compared to regular ones that are monitored. I couldnt beleive how much fun I had in Vegas because unlike the online casinos I was actually winning. I hadnt been to a brick and mortar place in many many years and didnt know what to expect but after playing there for a couple days and seeing what a real casino should be like I don't know that Ill ever be able to look at the joke online casinos again. I came back and played at CW betting 2-5$ a spin and out of $650 the highest hit I got was for $27. LOL what a freaking joke. At a real casino things would have been different.

These online casinos should take a hint. Real casinos make money and keep customers happy. You dont have to tighten the slots to a 1% payout to make money. I'm going to highly think about ever pllaying with Club World again after being at a real place that actually allows you to win. WOO HOO was it fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[vinylweatherman]

As tight as those slots are on CW, they should have millions on hand to pay the 2 or 3 people that cashout every day. Pathetic excuse using a snowstorm.

It was not just "any old snowstorm", it broke records in some places. These records date back over 100 years, more in some places.

The UK doesn't cope well because the government consider that this kind of weather is so rare that it is better to take the risk of everything grinding to a halt once or twice in a lifetime, rather than invest in the kind of equipment that would be standard in much of the northern states of the US, Canada, and the rest of Northern Europe.

The effects differed considerably over relatively short distances. The south saw only brief periods of disruption, whilst places such as Scotland and Northern Ireland, along with parts of the east coast, saw WEEKS of solid disruption.

The thaw started just after Christmas, and now the ENTIRE UK is bathed in a mild southerly flow, and temperatures well above freezing. This should mean that staff will have little or no trouble getting in after the new year, and the payments should all be made by the end of next week.

UK based operators should be VERY careful when picking on the WEATHER to provide an excuse, as I will be able to tell when they are "faking it"

For the record, CWC were NOT "faking it", this was a GENUINE situation that hit many parts of the UK, and is only now just clearing away in the worst affected regions.

 

[anniemac]

Not taking up for CW but I can see where extreme weather would cause major delays. Look at what happened in New York over the holidays.

I'm in Texas and believe you me, when, and it's a long stretch, it snows in my neck of the woods, the whole damn area shuts down. We are not equipped for even 2 inches of snow much less several feet.

 

[Webzcas]

I came back and played at CW betting 2-5$ a spin and out of $650 the highest hit I got was for $27. LOL what a freaking joke. At a real casino things would have been different

Whilst I have played many a time at a B & M casino and done my proverbial whats its. I have also done the same online. But I have also won handsomely online, much more so than in a land based casino.

As a slot player you should know that you can have long cold spells as well as long hot spells, regardless whether it is online or in a land based casino.

Indeed the other week in November, I met up with Simmo and we went to the Empire Casino in Leicester Square, before the planned meeting we had with a couple of people.

I lost several hundred, yet Simmo won over a grand playing Book of Rah! ( I certainly went Rah! that is for sure lol )

My point being is that stating an online casino has low payouts compared to land based casinos is incorrect.