Chance of getting mega moolah "progressive" feature

[fun4all]

Hey anyone have any idea how often this triggers?

I am playing TDK at the moment, no bonus cos I want to play the progressive. Ive gone 2000 spins and not seen the prog jackpot feature - betting around £3 a spin. Seems very hard to get

 

[winbig]

Just up the ante to max bet, I'm sure you'll have a better chance of hitting the feature




But seriously, I have no idea.

 

[Balthazar]

There's absolutely no way to know this (unless you ask MGS but they'll more than likely ignore your question like they always do).

 

[fun4all]

There's absolutely no way to know this (unless you ask MGS but they'll more than likely ignore your question like they always do).

Right, I was just wondering if anyone had done some tests like on immortal romance. I think I read somewhere it changes depending what you bet anyway like winbig hinted at. If I am having this much trouble at £3 a go I would hate to imagine playing it low rolling .

Also checked out KK's site but he said he didn't know there either

 

[winbig]

and actually, my post wasn't meant to be funny, but I'm sure there's some truth to it. I'm sure it's like most slots, where the chance of the jackpot/jackpot round is triggered is based on your bet size. ie: someone playing $3/spin is 7 times less likely to trigger it than someone playing $21....(just pulling numbers out of a hat, but you get the idea.)

So in all fairness, you can trigger it by betting medium/low stakes, but you just don't have the chance that higher stakes players do.

 

[Balthazar]

Right, I was just wondering if anyone had done some tests like on immortal romance. I think I read somewhere it changes depending what you bet anyway like winbig hinted at. If I am having this much trouble at £3 a go I would hate to imagine playing it low rolling .

Also checked out KK's site but he said he didn't know there either

Those stats were made by either stripping the reels and doing the maths (doesn't work on all games, and doesn't apply to your progressive situation) or by running ~1M spins in freeplay (doesn't work for progressive games either). So there's no solution to your problem here.

What has been confirmed in the past by various Reps is this:

1) It's easier to trigger the progressive wheel on larger bets
2) Once triggered, you have the same chance to win the various jackpots regardless of your bet size
3) When you win a progressive, you win the amount shown in your currency even though the total of the jackpot "in the bank" is in £. What's left after the currency exchange (if any) carries over for the next jackpot.

 

[fun4all]

or by running ~1M spins in freeplay (doesn't work for progressive games either).

Oh I did not realise that, so you don't get a progressive feature when you are in fun mode?

 

[Dinahnana]

Right, I was just wondering if anyone had done some tests like on immortal romance. I think I read somewhere it changes depending what you bet anyway like winbig hinted at. If I am having this much trouble at £3 a go I would hate to imagine playing it low rolling .

Also checked out KK's site but he said he didn't know there either

In my experience the Jackpot Feature is really stingy lately with regards to the amount of spins it takes to trigger. In the past I got it quite frequently in sessions mostly the 10 e win but still it did trigger. I also found that it didn't matter the amount of the bet was in order to get this to trigger (my bet was usually between 0.60-1.50 a spin). So stick with bets that you are comfortable with as these Jackpot games have a lower RTP and making bets higher than you normally would will just give you a headache as well as an empty wallet unless you are very very lucky

Other maths minded folks might be able to give more information regarding the chances of getting the feature depending on bets BUT in my experience of playing TDK for 3 years I don't think it matters. It's random

 

[winbig]

Other maths minded folks might be able to give more information regarding the chances of getting the feature depending on bets BUT in my experience of playing TDK for 3 years I don't think it matters. It's random

Yes, indeed it's random, but you have to understand that it's more than likely weighted based on your bet size.....in my opinion, of course ie: It may hit 1 in 1000 times if you're playing .90 or 1 in 100 times if you're playing 9.00.....but of course, in either case, you could spin 10000 times to get it, or get it on the 1st spin...

I'd love for someone to chime in here to set us straight and let us know one way or the other

 

[Dinahnana]

Yes, indeed it's random, but you have to understand that it's more than likely weighted based on your bet size.....in my opinion, of course ie: It may hit 1 in 1000 times if you're playing .90 or 1 in 100 times if you're playing 9.00.....but of course, in either case, you could spin 10000 times to get it, or get it on the 1st spin...

I'd love for someone to chime in here to set us straight and let us know one way or the other

I see what you are saying but there have been occasions in the past where I hit this feature 3 or 4 times in a hundred spins on a 0.60 bet. I do understand the mechanics of slots and how they are weighted just don't give me the mathematical formulas as they give me a headache

 

[fun4all]

I just got it after about 2400 spins (paid the smallest one but don't care )

Interesting nobody has any clue about the chance really, everything else seems to have been looked at closely on here

 

[RichyJ75]

I have had the Mega Moolah progressive bonus come up 3 times now, normally at £1.25 or £2.50 a spin. Never hit anything more than the lower pot around £9!! Most exciting time was when the wheel stopped just one click away from the mega jackpot. Nothing special about spins or anything or pattern, just random.

 

[Balthazar]

I just got it after about 2400 spins (paid the smallest one but don't care )

Interesting nobody has any clue about the chance really, everything else seems to have been looked at closely on here

It's not "interesting" it's just normal, I just explained why a few replies up.

Unless you're willing to be the one to play 1M spins at 0.30/spin and share the stats? That's $300k worth of spins and that should cost you around $8000 with a 92% TRTP (assuming you're not hitting one of the two big jackpots). And then, you do it for 0.60/spin and compare. That 2nd part of the experiment will cost you 16k. Then 0.90/spin and so on...

Still find it "interesting" that nobody knows?

 

[fun4all]

Still find it "interesting" that nobody knows?

Hey no need to rip my question apart, I know what you are saying is true and your maths is right but for your information yes I do find it interesting that nobody on here knows. No need to put the fact I find it interesting down if you don't

I should clarify that I mean nobody on here knows, the truth is somebody does know out there and yes I would find the answer to this question interesting.

 

[xxshepxx]

TDK has been especially stingy lately, I haven't seen a freespins round in months

 

[winbig]

It's not "interesting" it's just normal, I just explained why a few replies up.

Unless you're willing to be the one to play 1M spins at 0.30/spin and share the stats? That's $300k worth of spins and that should cost you around $8000 with a 92% TRTP (assuming you're not hitting one of the two big jackpots). And then, you do it for 0.60/spin and compare. That 2nd part of the experiment will cost you 16k. Then 0.90/spin and so on...

Still find it "interesting" that nobody knows?

A high roller losing $8k is chicken scratch when you consider they have the chance to win millions.

 

[Jasminebed]

I quite like Mega Moolah and TDK. You can't play the progressives in fun mode at all.

I usually find I'll get the wheel once or twice in a session (500 tp 800 spins) if I am playing at 90 cents. Obviously, sometimes not at all, and other times maybe five or six of them.

Biggest hit ever was a minor on TDK for just about $225. Still remember hitting $100 plus wheel on an 11 cent bet on Mega Moolah though (my last 11 cents of course).

Some, but not all, casinos allow progressive slot play on bonuses, be sure to check terms.

 

[goatwack]

It's funny, I recall hitting the feature on TDK with the jackpot wheel back when I first started slotting, I picked the Joker and I swear I thought I was going to win the whole lot, the wheel spun soooo slowly and stopped about one away from the big one lol.

It was a right tease, obviously looking back now I realized there absolutely no chance of EVER winning, especially considering I was playing at 30p a spin (!!!) but it was amusing how 'close' I came!

You can't go into the mindset of forcing a jackpot by playing high bets such as eg £10 - 30 per spin on games like this, you have to play the slot because you enjoy it and see the jackpot as a secondary bonus or else you might find yourself extremely disappointed. And out of pocket

Perhaps if every punter highrolled on this or any other jackpot game your chances of triggering would be higher and there would be some sense of parity in regards to realistic odds of getting a fair crack of the whip.

 

[09237653]

On minimum stakes I NEVER get it, on 2 coins (50-60p/spin) it comes in about once per 1000 spins, but is ALWAYS the mini (£9-£10 "jackpot")

 

[Nicola]

Yes bet size does matter and also how many players are wagering at the time you are playing.

From experience, play between 5AM and 6AM UK time and you will frequently hit the jackpot wheel even at lower bet sizes as it's very quiet. My best session was 10 jackpot wheels in a single hour, but the prizes were nearly always 10.01 - 10.08. As it's random, you never know you may get one of the bigger jackpots!

Looking at the stats, the majority of £1m+ and £10k+ jackpots are won between 7PM and 8PM GMT.

 

[Balthazar]

Yes bet size does matter and also how many players are wagering at the time you are playing.

What? That doesn't make sense. I highly, highly doubt that the maths behind this are some kind of raffle between active players.

 

[Nicola]

What? That doesn't make sense. I highly, highly doubt that the maths behind this are some kind of raffle between active players.

As players with higher bet sizes take priority, if you play when their are less players it seems to be easier. You always know when the big-time players are there because the MINI and MINOR are rising rapidly. This is very usual during the evenings and weekends.

 

[dunover]

Imagine each 1p is one chance in the raffle so-to-speak. So playing 30p gives you 30 chances at billions-1 of hitting it. Playing £9 a spin gives you 900 chances per spin, therefore you are 30x more likely to hit the random on any given spin. That's essentially how these work, and why high-rollers usually (but not always) win them.

Of course pots rise faster when more players are present but that's not necessarily because of the high-rollers being there, but simple play volumes at certain times of day mainly consisting of 'normal' players. Following on from this, the mini/minor prizes are more likely to go in these periods, as well as the mega and major.

 

[Balthazar]

As players with higher bet sizes take priority, if you play when their are less players it seems to be easier. You always know when the big-time players are there because the MINI and MINOR are rising rapidly. This is very usual during the evenings and weekends.

That would imply that it's a raffle because they have a predetermined number of times that they give shots at the progressive (to get to that "more people = fewer chances to get it" theory).

The thing is, this isn't necessary in any scenario with proper maths so I don't know why MGS would do that, especially since it takes away fairness and goes against how pure randomness and RNG's work. Your result would be dependent of the action of other players which is usually a big no-no.

 

[Balthazar]

Imagine each 1p is one chance in the raffle so-to-speak. So playing 30p gives you 30 chances at billions-1 of hitting it. Playing £9 a spin gives you 900 chances per spin, therefore you are 30x more likely to hit the random on any given spin.

Yes, and they can do that regardless of how many people are actively playing. The way it should work (and probably the way it works TBH) is there's a separate check from the RNG to see if you trigger the progressive wheel or not on each spin. You could be alone playing and it wouldn't change anything.

 

[RichyJ75]

Was wagering £5 a spin in last few minutes and had the progressive bonus round come up.

It was close, but not close enough for £7.6m !!

 

[imteaz]

Was wagering £5 a spin in last few minutes and had the progressive bonus round come up.

It was close, but not close enough for £7.6m !!

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Wow that was very close... arghh i would have heart attack!

 

[dionysus]

Was wagering £5 a spin in last few minutes and had the progressive bonus round come up.

It was close, but not close enough for £7.6m !!

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A niggle perhaps, but no, not actually close. The wheel isn't in any way actually representative of the odds and no such beast as 'near' in slots.

 

[TheUnluckyOne]

I got stuck last night when Microgaming Blackjack ripped me off again, for the dealer to make 4 consecutive blackjacks on $50 bets, where as before I was playing $5-$10 a hand and kinda winning. Also, looking up the odds in a matter of 100+ games played, Dealer ended up with natural 20's 4:1 vs the player. And the very few times I got natural 20's , the dealer found a way to push me or make 21. Atlantic city 8 decks blackjack. Call that random. My *ss.
Anyway, once I finished with the blackjack, I was left with $100 with my account which I played in Mega Moolah doing 0.25 cent bets. In an hour the money were gone. No bonus,no progressive bonus. I ended up depositing another $150, which I played on max bet $6.25 and after 10 or so spins I hit the Jackpot Bonus ! ... only to pay out the mini. Few spins later those money were gone too.

So yeah, I`m pretty done with that for the week