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There should be a rule regarding forum contribution as well. There are few people whose only contribution is submitting screenshots and one random post. Members should have a minimum post requirement(every month) to enter comps and contest post should not be counted. Players should be allowed to complete the post requirements before the contest ends.
Last year @conker said - "A
reminder to everyone taking part in Casinomeister comps. We fully expect those that are taking part in comps to be active in the Casinomeister community. It is not fair to all the other members if you are simply visiting the forum to enter our comps.

If it comes to our attention that a member is only taking part in comps, then we may choose to put you in the Dog House - which means no access to the comps until further notice."
Trying the thin the field down a bit eh? You sly old viper... 😜
 
Trying the thin the field down a bit eh? You sly old viper... 😜
Well.... we may lose some members from our contests, but It's a sacrifice I am willing to make!!!
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Any wins over 50x account for an entry. No extra bets or bonus buys. Min bet .30. Any slot allowed.

This allows for a more natural contest of people who get lucky and post their hit when actually gambling instead of depositing just to try and gain entries on min bet. Will also likely limit the work on your end so people arent spamming endless .10 betting.
Agree with this. How about just 5 entries of a particular brand each month and 5 entries allowed only with no swap outs? What you post is your entry and thats it for the month. That almost averages 1 entry per week so is fair enough,I think. And always have one random prize for anybody provided its over 50x?
 
@Webzcas I hope the rules in the future comps are going to be rigid regarding screenshots accompanying bet history. In the current Multiplier Mayhem comp lots of people are posting screenshots without bet history. You can't tell if it was a bonus buy or natural bonus. I understand that UK people can't do bonus buys so they dont have to what about others?
For example post #14, #17,#74, #77 and a few more.
 
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@Webzcas I hope the rules in the future comps are going to be rigid regarding screenshots accompanying bet history. In the current Multiplier Mayhem comp lots of people are posting screenshots without bet history. You can't tell if it was a bonus buy or natural bonus. I understand that UK people can't do bonus buys so they dont have to what about others?
For example post #14, #17,#74, #77 and a few more.
sobeks godly spins does not have a feature buy option
 
What if the people who win a prize in this competition are asked to pick a slot and everybody has to play those 10 games for August. Same point system - all hits upto 249x- 1 point, upto 499x 3 points and above 500x 5 points.
Screenshot entry limits can be decided later.
 
Let us all use the painfully popular slot "Bonanza" for the August comp.

Maybe use the "Target Challenge" idea for the structure of the comp to make it fair for all.

No tiers either this time CM (You?) just chooses 'X' hidden targets and closet gets top prize and so on.

Possibly 50x lowest entry with no upper limit. Should you choose for example 111x as the first target a screenshot / hit of exactly this amount (or really close) could walk away with the top prize, meaning a hit of over 1K x could walk away with a smaller prize (depending on the mystery targets set)

Just an idea....
 
A way to make a comp more appealing for moderate players could be to instead of limiting entries per day, you limit them per week.
Would probably need to lower the amount, but using the current comp as example, instead of 3 per day the limit could be 10 per week.
Then you could participate and have a chance even if you are only playing during the weekends, and it would still be a comp that is engaging the whole month.

I prefer comps that stay 'active' the whole month over those that you can finish the first day by maxing out your entries or whatver it may be.

Another way to make comps more appealing for everyme would be to bring back Whos the bride to the Swedish market, so working on getting that done should probably be priority #1
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Penny up the x wall challenge

Nice Target- 300x: Max. 5 entries.
Mega Target - 800x: Max. 10 entries.
Epic Target 1300x: Max. 15 entries.

The maximum entries total would be 30 so would work out to 1 bonus a day on average.

Everyone would be able to take part in all targets. Players who hit a 500x-1000x can still submit them and build up the score with smaller bonuses but it won't be over as others could still get a better score using multiple smaller bonuses.

Will make it more of a challenge and the max entry limits should make it fair for all.

Think it would be quite fun for the regulars. Allow everyone to take part and even make use of bonuses they would consider rubbish otherwise!
  • Only bonus rounds can be used, no base game wins.
  • Players have to get as close to the target as possible.
  • Exact or over is not allowed. Can either let the player know entry not eligible or they just put themselves out the comp. Second one would be more fun imo :eek:
  • No maximum entry per slot game. Let everyone play whatever they like.
  • A minimum of two entries per target (Prevent one hit being the winner of a target)
  • No swapouts.
  • One entry can be used to decimal x win i.e. 157.32x. Probably would be the last ones for most. Even a 0.45x win could nick it at the end.
  • Have to be posted on the same date as shown in the screenshot. I'd add within 2 hours to prevent hoarding and then picking the best over a day.
  • Screenshot can only be used for 1 target not all 3.
  • Could have small gameweek prizes for closest during that week or other criteria.
Posting format:
Nice Entry #1
Casino
Slot Name 152x
Old Score: 0
New Score: 152x

Nice Entry #2
Casino
Slot Name 32x
Old Score: 152x
New Score: 184x
 
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Blackjack Bad Beat

Min bet US$/EUR/GBP 1

All entries must show a full UNCROPPED desktop clearly showing date and time.
Maximum entries per day 3, no total max
Submit an entry where you have BJ/21 and the dealer gets BJ

All entries go into raffle at the end, max 1 prize per player.
 
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The easiest way with minimal complaints is to make them profitable for those who play for that reason and cap entries. I suspect thats what the vast majority here want and to be able to compete on level footing for ~20eur etc.

ie 10x100eur prizes capped at 3 15x+ entries per player and random draw winners:
  • The for-profit competition people will be happy as it's a profitable structure for them with upwards of 30 regular entrants
  • Players with smaller bankrolls can compete/win with the same odds as highrollers/volume players
  • The UK/regulated players will be happy because 3 15x wins is easy enough to get without autospins etc within an hour or so.
Downside:
  • Competition engagement in the thread heavily reduces, no reason for casual conversation/checking thread once you fire in 3 entries, no bigwin prizes to chase(could still have the odd one for provider comps with larger prizepools). Maybe enforce forum engagement rules stronger if you go this route.

You can't make everyone happy, everyone has their own motives or things they enjoy. I love chasing/competing in bigwin leaderboards even if it does not make financial sense but thats certainly not for everyone. I would love if the bigwin part was still an occasional thing for the provider(pragmatic etc) comps where we sometmes get a larger prizepool.

The current June/July comp could have had the prizes randomly drawn(but weighted by player points) so even people with a single 100x entry could have got to sweat the chance of winning the 400EUR etc which would have kept some happier that a qualifying entry earned during their normal play has value.
 
  • Pick a slot that is available to everyone, has a low minimum bet and doesn't have any of that ante bet/bonus buy/hyper spins bollocks on it
  • Invite all participants to play that slot for the entire month and send in their big wins (100x or more)
  • Distribute the prizes accordingly -
    1. First 3 entries per player go into a weighted draw for 10x€25 prizes, max one prize per player
    2. All entries per player go into a weighted draw for 20x€25 prizes, no limit on prizes per player
    3. The top 5 incidental highest wins across the month get paid out - €100, €60, €40, €30 and €20 for 1st to 5th respectively
This means there is something for everyone, and everyone has a chance at something -
  • Casual players on weekends can get 3 entries for the 1st band of prizes and have an equal chance
  • Frenzied maniacs can try to get as many entries as possible in order to 'buy' prizes from band 2
  • Anyone can hit a big win for a prize from band 3, although the more you play the better your chance
  • The slot would have a low min bet and be available to everyone, although in some territories it might have turbo and auto play
I can't think of anything else right now. The target game was pretty good last time round though. Fucking genius whoever came up with that, quite frankly...
 
ie 10x100eur prizes capped at 3 15x+ entries per player
This is a bit of reductio ad absurdum, obviously the maxcap shouldn't be that small.

Ideally it should be set such that whales blow through it in 1-2 days, heavy players will get it done by the end of the month no problem, moderate players might reach it depending on how their luck goes and minnows won't reach it but may still get lucky in the raffle.
 
This is a bit of reductio ad absurdum, obviously the maxcap shouldn't be that small.

Ideally it should be set such that whales blow through it in 1-2 days, heavy players will get it done by the end of the month no problem, moderate players might reach it depending on how their luck goes and minnows won't reach it but may still get lucky in the raffle.

It's to an extreme yes but not far off the provider comps capped at 5 entries which more forum regs play.
 
This is a bit of reductio ad absurdum, obviously the maxcap shouldn't be that small.

Ideally it should be set such that whales blow through it in 1-2 days, heavy players will get it done by the end of the month no problem, moderate players might reach it depending on how their luck goes and minnows won't reach it but may still get lucky in the raffle.
That's exactly how I thought of the idea I posted above. It's basically the hidden target challenge modified to give it a bit of strategy and let everyone compete regardless of their play style.

Not sure why I'm so interested in this as I don't even play them but I think that the comps should be more like a fun thing for slot playing members to possibly win as a bonus over the month not something that is the main goal.
 
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The hidden target comp looked like a lot of fun and it might be an idea to run two comps sometimes with the hidden target comp as a secondary comp.

Maybe just have one reasonable target (between 200x-800x???) or the two bronze/silver targets and only one winner for each.

Regulars might be happy to have a chance to win 50/100 through the hidden target challenge and then take part in whatever the other comp is if they want.

Might not even be a lot more work as the entries could be collated at the end of the month when the target is revealed. Or just don't collate them and let the players figure out who won!
 
There should be a significant change made to ensure that "fly by nighters" and "bare minimal contributors to the forum" (OUTSIDE of the comp threads) are weeded out, by making them ineligible to enter comps until they have clearly demonstrated a willingness to regularly assist in driving forum engagement.

Just look at a couple of "members" who won in last month's Target comp.

Jovan? m4nuel? WHAT contribution to the forum have they made exactly?
DIDDLY SQUAT, THAT'S WHAT.

And yet they can just waltz into a comp after being in the forum for five minutes and walk off with (in some cases) more than one prize?
I'm sorry (well no actually I'm not sorry at all), but that's just total bullsh1t.

And then, once the comp is over and the fly by nighters have collected their loot, they immediately crawl back under the stone from which they emerged until the next comp comes along, while continuing to contribute MORE DIDDLY SQUAT to the forum :rolleyes:

There was a time when members who "abused" the comps were given the ban hammer (anyone remember nikantw?)

No one should be allowed to enter a CM comp until they have been members for at least three months.

AND there should be a minimum post requirement as well. Not a total of 5.
There should be a proper look at their average weekly post count (EXCLUDING COMPS), calculated across the ENTIRE LENGTH of their membership .

Some of these comp abusers aren't even averaging ONE POST PER WEEK outside of the comp threads.
Despite being members for more than a year.
Doesn't take a genius to work out what suddenly made them get their post counts up, does it?

Yet they get the privilege of walking off with the majority of the comp prizes while making the smallest of contributions.

Frankly, it stinks.
 
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Perhaps lowering the entry for min win type things from 100x to 50x makes it less of a grind to get those good hits? More likely you can hit that on your random crappy game you enjoy rather than have to try and grind high volatility slots at min bet looking for the big hits. Also makes base game hits become realistic too.

No harm in higher rewards for the higher x's (500+, 1000+ or whatever) but I do like lowering the bottom level.
 
Very good points by @mcgameboy :thumbsup: (....and yes I remember nikantw VERY well, the ultimate gold digger lol)

Also in life in general, lets look at "The more the Merrier" - more (smaller) prizes IMO would create more happier members who'd (hopefully) come on the forum more often.

I'd err that the majority of regular contributors on here are low rollers who are going to be happy with a prize of €25 - €50 and a better chance of getting one than expecting an outside chance of a larger prize.
 
Last months prizes I was generally happy for the winners.

With the contest going on right now I almost feel sorry for them. "Damn they must be losing alot playing all day every day"

Which is fine I guess. If they dont care no one else should.

Im more about group inclusion of all the members who cannot afford to lowroll for a month or two every single day. It excludes them right away because most people do not want to get chasing and go real deep.

The minimum weekly post thing would have to be at the moderators discretion. People may be very busy with work most days and clearly arent freeloaders.

Maybe a PM to freeloaders would be best. Hey "insert name here" If you dont have 20 forum posts this month (outside of the comp) then you will forfeit your prize.



As for the contest:

Something like 3 entries per day max, minimum 10 x win to qualify and at the end..all the entries go into a random draw is about the best way to go about it. Then maybe have a bonus. If you get over 1000x, you get 2 bonus entires up to a maximim of 6 extra points per contest..just so the big hitters are somewhat rewarded.

Then maybe the odd time have one of the accumulator type contests where people who love to chase all day can have their fun and be rewarded.
 
There should be a significant change made to ensure that "fly by nighters" and "bare minimal contributors to the forum" (OUTSIDE of the comp threads) are weeded out, by making them ineligible to enter comps until they have clearly demonstrated a willingness to regularly assist in driving forum engagement.

Just look at a couple of "members" who won in last month's Target comp.

Jovan? m4nuel? WHAT contribution to the forum have they made exactly?
DIDDLY SQUAT, THAT'S WHAT.

And yet they can just waltz into a comp after being in the forum for five minutes and walk off with (in some cases) more than one prize?
I'm sorry (well no actually I'm not sorry at all), but that's just total bullsh1t.

And then, once the comp is over and the fly by nighters have collected their loot, they immediately crawl back under the stone from which they emerged until the next comp comes along, while continuing to contribute MORE DIDDLY SQUAT to the forum :rolleyes:

There was a time when members who "abused" the comps were given the ban hammer (anyone remember nikantw?)

No one should be allowed to enter a CM comp until they have been members for at least three months.

AND there should be a minimum post requirement as well. Not a total of 5.
There should be a proper look at their average weekly post count (EXCLUDING COMPS), calculated across the ENTIRE LENGTH of their membership .

Some of these comp abusers aren't even averaging ONE POST PER WEEK outside of the comp threads.
Despite being members for more than a year.
Doesn't take a genius to work out what suddenly made them get their post counts up, does it?

Yet they get the privilege of walking off with the majority of the comp prizes while making the smallest of contributions.

Frankly, it stinks.
LOL a couple of names I remember there who contribute the cube root of sod-all and had I not been sacked I would have disqualified.

nikantw was not banned for abusing the comps as such but for sending a rep who ran one of the comps some highly coercive messages by PM which were reported. Shame, because hitherto a good forum member.

Anyway, BONANZA is the answer to the comps for the rest of the year, say up until November 30.

We have a 1000x - plus challenge, real play minimum 20p/c stakes. Each month from August all comp money is put by in an accumulator so someone wins 4,000 euros paid out just before Christmas.

This means @Webzcas has nothing to do regarding issuing prizes between August and November, these petty little 25 and 50e invoices. Only 1000x - plus hits qualify, either in Max Ways spins or feature returns. The winner-takes-all is paid 4,000e for the highest hit over 1000x, Everyone else can bugger-off. We might even get Nik Robinson to chip in a coffee mug to add to the prize pool given that Nov 2016 is the 10th. anniversary of the demo release.

In the likely event nobody wins it, the money will be split 50-50 in a retrospective @conker and @dunover redundancy payment.
 
Maybe a PM to freeloaders would be best. Hey "insert name here" If you dont have 20 forum posts this month (outside of the comp) then you will forfeit your prize.
The problem I see with this is that those member will just post any old crap to reach 20 posts if they really want to join the comp. Otherwise they would already post more, even if it is just screenshots in those threads.

You didn't mention it but I also don't really think it's fair to exclude screenshot only posters either as that is a big part of the forum and they are contributing in some way. It's often the most used thread and does have discussions going on.

It's difficult for @Webzcas because its probably enough work to manage the comp itself without all the extra that would be needed to cover all the bases of who is eligible. Unless his AI is now doing all the work :laugh:

I wonder if a better option would be to just let the members 'police' the comp themselves.

I'm sure someone called out one of the users @mcgameboy mentioned because I seem to remember checking the comp winners after seeing it and wondering if they would be removed.

Should just make a rule that anyone in the comp that is flagged by members can be removed from the comp at any time if it does seem like they are 'comp abusers' or not eligible in any way.
 
Can we require fullscreen images for all PC entries(no cropped entries)? It's way too easy for people to cheat and crop a years old screenshot of a win and represent it as their own/a recent win. I know it's only for ~100eur etc but its open to abuse.
Following the suggestion of my "nemesis" (I will get you! Road rage for 5 seconds, I want to make you run) can we also show provider/ingame proof/casino history for entries? @Webzcas

My other suggestion is to have more than 10 winners. The Golden boot comp was incredibly stressful 😨
 
The problem I see with this is that those member will just post any old crap to reach 20 posts if they really want to join the comp. Otherwise they would already post more, even if it is just screenshots in those threads.

You didn't mention it but I also don't really think it's fair to exclude screenshot only posters either as that is a big part of the forum and they are contributing in some way. It's often the most used thread and does have discussions going on.

It's difficult for @Webzcas because its probably enough work to manage the comp itself without all the extra that would be needed to cover all the bases of who is eligible. Unless his AI is now doing all the work :laugh:

I wonder if a better option would be to just let the members 'police' the comp themselves.

I'm sure someone called out one of the users @mcgameboy mentioned because I seem to remember checking the comp winners after seeing it and wondering if they would be removed.

Should just make a rule that anyone in the comp that is flagged by members can be removed from the comp at any time if it does seem like they are 'comp abusers' or not eligible in any way.
You are correct. It was geordiecolin and he was perfectly right to do so.


Although I would concede that if we are going to question whether someone should be eligible to participate in a comp, it needs to be done early on (ideally with @Webzcas being tagged/alerted to it so he can make a ruling), not after the winners have been announced.
 
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Although I would concede that if we are going to question whether someone should be eligible to participate in a comp, it needs to be done early on (ideally with @Webzcas being tagged/alerted to it so he can make a ruling), not after the winners have been announced.
I agree. I think if it was made an explicit rule then participants would keep an eye on it from the start.
 
We had a problem with 'sleeper' accounts from Poland and E. Europe, some stupid enough even to use the same monikers they used on AG and other forums to game the comps. They were contacted and banned from comps, but not the forum. Then they showed their true colours and sent snotty abusive PMs, validating our decisions.

This was actually pointed out in a message to mods by a concerned forum member who noticed BigWhineBoard had banned the same names already for gaming the comps.
 
We had a problem with 'sleeper' accounts from Poland and E. Europe, some stupid enough even to use the same monikers they used on AG and other forums to game the comps. They were contacted and banned from comps, but not the forum. Then they showed their true colours and sent snotty abusive PMs, validating our decisions.

This was actually pointed out in a message to mods by a concerned forum member who noticed BigWhineBoard had banned the same names already for gaming the comps.
:laugh::laugh::laugh: :thumbsup:
 
The problem I see with this is that those member will just post any old crap to reach 20 posts if they really want to join the comp. Otherwise they would already post more, even if it is just screenshots in those threads.

You didn't mention it but I also don't really think it's fair to exclude screenshot only posters either as that is a big part of the forum and they are contributing in some way. It's often the most used thread and does have discussions going on.

It's difficult for @Webzcas because its probably enough work to manage the comp itself without all the extra that would be needed to cover all the bases of who is eligible. Unless his AI is now doing all the work :laugh:

I wonder if a better option would be to just let the members 'police' the comp themselves.

I'm sure someone called out one of the users @mcgameboy mentioned because I seem to remember checking the comp winners after seeing it and wondering if they would be removed.

Should just make a rule that anyone in the comp that is flagged by members can be removed from the comp at any time if it does seem like they are 'comp abusers' or not eligible in any way.
I think what we all need to remember here is this is to help drive traffic on the forum and im sure a part thanking members for using their affy links.

If we do these contests where its just making people chase, it will only reward the small handful who partake and not attract or increase traffic. If those results prove long term, the owners here will end up removing the comps as they will see it as useless and that would suck.

So I think we all need to keep that in mind and Webcaz will need to find what works and what doesnt.

At least with this contest there is still a random draw where anyone can win and its not all just chase chase chase.

Members policing a contest themselves would turn into nothing but forum brawls imo. Someone def needs to be the boss and oversee it.

At the beginning of every comp maybe make a disclaimer at the top. We expect participants to be active on the forums or we reserve the right to forfeit your prize (minimum posts needed etc)
 
I have to be honest here and thought this months comp was just a raffle again where you gather "tickets".

Won't bother much anymore because I can't commit that much time and money and I'm chronically unlucky on slots the past months. Good luck to those who do tho.

Yeah, I've decided to sit this one out too mate

Hit a 2,700x on DoA and a 654x on Chilli the DAY BEFORE the comp went live which obviously can't count and thought that's my luck done for this month so why bother even trying lol :o

I was spot on as my luck has been a disaster since :p
 
Members policing a contest themselves would turn into nothing but forum brawls imo. Someone def needs to be the boss and oversee it.
I agree. I meant more towards just checking and flagging members who might be 'comp abusers' or any other eligibility breaches.

It could even just be made clear that this should be done via dm to @Webzcas rather than users explicitly calling out each other on the threads.

I think what we all need to remember here is this is to help drive traffic on the forum and im sure a part thanking members for using their affy links.

If we do these contests where its just making people chase, it will only reward the small handful who partake and not attract or increase traffic. If those results prove long term, the owners here will end up removing the comps as they will see it as useless and that would suck.

So I think we all need to keep that in mind and Webcaz will need to find what works and what doesnt.
Good point. I haven't really thought about this part.

Maybe keeping some kind of small random prize draw as part of the monthly comp would help, like the hidden target comp.

Another idea could be to make a small prize draw that just randomly picks users who have fulfilled some contribution criteria over the previous 1/2/3 months etc. Maybe 1 ticket to the prize draw per post? Could just exclude certain threads if needed i.e monthly winners screenshot, bonanza ( :laugh: ) or any others that could be used to 'game' the draw.

I think someone might have mentioned something similar already.
 
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