CasinoExtreme Charge withdraw fee!!! Alert

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umberto

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This guy has done this before so he just uses the casino for money transfering procedures. I m totally on the casino's side at this. Casino extreme is not a rogue operation... They pay instantly and there are no complaints lately as their representative said. They try to run a trusted bussiness and they are in the right way. Adding the 1x's in terms and conditions would be the perfect thing to do. Other than that I do not blame at all the casino for its action.
 

Slotmachine

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HenryMacN said:
This is not the first time 21kingwu has done this. This was in fact the fourth time doing exactly the same thing.

Regardless of said player's behavior (and I'm definitely not taking 21kingwu's side in this matter), it is inexcusable for the Casino to publicize confidential information of this kind. A player's transactions with a casino are sensitive information and Casino Extreme should know better than to post this kind of information publicly.

Even if a player chooses to bash a casino in the forums, however unfairly, the casino should maintain professionalism and respond without disclosing ANY such information.

Tsk, tsk

SM
 

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Slotmachine said:
Regardless of said player's behavior (and I'm definitely not taking 21kingwu's side in this matter), it is inexcusable for the Casino to publicize confidential information of this kind. A player's transactions with a casino are sensitive information and Casino Extreme should know better than to post this kind of information publicly.

Even if a player chooses to bash a casino in the forums, however unfairly, the casino should maintain professionalism and respond without disclosing ANY such information.

Tsk, tsk

SM

I'm not trying to take sides but what he said was actually not very confidential. He barely mentioned that it's the 4th time doing so only. Nothing much more than that. He didn't say anything like how much he deposit and etc. He didn't even mention when or how many total deposits/withdrawals he made so far.

All he said was that he made such things 4 times before. It's not entirely unfair, come to think of it.
 

21kingwu

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I fully abided your terms and conditions , otherwise you wont let me cashout.

Thats your stupidity or non-professional knowledge to leave a hole , you should thank me for giving you pigs a wonderful lesson.

No wonder I can quick in and quick out , let you bagholder take the loss.

The fact shows that you casinoextreme and supporters is not a reputable one , at least not DEEP one.

Do you heard Bodog, VIPcasinos sth would change their terms and conditions temporaily by their online support

LOL, your defence disclose yourself. I think the audience should have answer now.:p
 

21kingwu

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Thanks for your head up.
Now everyone should be aware that casinoextreme would exposure him in case of casino operator is angry, thats their so called "professioanl attitude" towards player.

We have our way to protect ourselves.

Actually, Back to topic , I dont bash them or negative evaluate them.
See the title , I just demostrate a fact they charge $40 fee without any prior notice on NT withdraw
which is totally under complying its terms and conditions.

So next time they mabye void your winning without notice just they feel you play too quick, I just asume, a probability problem. Of course , you know Bodog, Inetbet wont do that. but be cautius with any suspicious one.

Audience should be aware of that and have your own decision.

Slotmachine said:
Regardless of said player's behavior (and I'm definitely not taking 21kingwu's side in this matter), it is inexcusable for the Casino to publicize confidential information of this kind. A player's transactions with a casino are sensitive information and Casino Extreme should know better than to post this kind of information publicly.

Even if a player chooses to bash a casino in the forums, however unfairly, the casino should maintain professionalism and respond without disclosing ANY such information.

Tsk, tsk

SM
 

umberto

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you should thank me for giving you pigs a wonderful lesson.

You should know how to write in a proper manner. Do you call the casino pigs???

Your forum account suspension must be close...




PS: This is my 100th POST...!!!!!!
 

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21kingwu said:
I fully abided your terms and conditions , otherwise you wont let me cashout.

Thats your stupidity or non-professional knowledge to leave a hole , you should thank me for giving you pigs a wonderful lesson.

No wonder I can quick in and quick out , let you bagholder take the loss.

The fact shows that you casinoextreme and supporters is not a reputable one , at least not DEEP one.

Do you heard Bodog, VIPcasinos sth would change their terms and conditions temporaily by their online support

LOL, your defence disclose yourself. I think the audience should have answer now.:p

Sorry, it seems that some people search nowadays only mistakes/"holes"/etc from rules/T&C/etc. While some people use their common sense :)

I recommend common sense... :thumbsup:

But... if you are lawyer, then i understand ;)
 

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A couple of things to note here IMHO:

1. It would be beneficial if all casinos made their requirements in this area clear in their T&C's
2. Players need to be aware that activity like this can be construed as money laundering

Finally, 21kingwu - please try to keep your observations more "constructive" and your tone less "personal". You have made your thoughts more than clear in this instance so please conduct yourself from hereon in in a civil manner. Thanks.

Simmo!
 

21kingwu

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Its clear of Affiliate's attitude, they are Financially depend on casinos' subscribations.

umberto
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I understand they just hope every newbie jump those traps and better lose all before any meaningful cashin.

If you are a pure player , you would understand my point , be aware of this.

I am traning and encouring more players do like this .

:lolup: :lolup: :lolup:
 

21kingwu

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Sorry , Gambling actually is not a causual game.

Actually its a war between players and casinos , Win or Lose. I treat it a serious business.

common sense will hurt your pocket eventually.

Sodax77 said:
Sorry, it seems that some people search nowadays only mistakes/"holes"/etc from rules/T&C/etc. While some people use their common sense :)

I recommend common sense... :thumbsup:

But... if you are lawyer, then i understand ;)
 

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21kingwu said:
Its clear of Affiliate's attitude, they are Financially depend on casinos' subscribations.

It's actually in an affiliate's best interests to present players with casinos they trust in and would play themselves. I and many others hereabouts would never represent or defend a casino with a bad reputation and i think affiliates who do deserve what they get.

In this instance, while not a casino i personally choose to represent, there is evidence to support the claim that they are a vastly improved outfit in recent months. I don't think the aforementioned affiliate members are influenced by their affiliations in any way personally. I think that opinions on this particular "case" are based on a very clear cut right/wrong issue.

21kingwu said:
common sense will hurt your pocket eventually.

Ah so you are a lawyer then :D

Cheers

Simmo!
 

21kingwu

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Do I do that on Bodog. Inetbet. Vipcasinos. SciFi Group
Absolutely not.
Reason is simple : they take good care of players , winning and losing due to probability
What we can do is keeping good sources live.

For those who defend for casinoextreme , you'd better play at casinoextreme to support your master , or you indeed knew whats the rogued game inside :lolup:

No more useless paper debating , If u support , you go to play and show us your winning.

If you take on my side , lets do it in my way , win 1 or 2 hands and run , punish those bagholders :D :D :D

In some sense, thats the meaning of Player Unions.
 

umberto

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21kingwu , everything is in fact common sense. I dare to say that unfortunately you have a lack of it.
 

gfkostas

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It doesn't state in the terms and conditions that a fee gets deducted if you don't wager what they think as 'enough'.Assuming that what he did hasn't repeated itself in the past I find the fee taken off him as unjustifiable given the facts at hand.I do agree with the points raised from previous honourable members that the casino is not a bank but still that doesn't bear in mind the unlikely event at which one might have to withdraw earlier than anticipated.Casinos can't get by with hypothetical terms that don't exist but only assumed.
 
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liquidsoap

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hmmmmmm this is a tricky one, i agree with the player on this one, even though i think this is wrong, if casino extreme says hes dont this before they could have made a point to put it in the T & C's, i also feel that the casino was totaly wrong displaying info to the public like that.
 

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liquidsoap said:
hmmmmmm this is a tricky one, i agree with the player on this one, even though i think this is wrong, if casino extreme says hes dont this before they could have made a point to put it in the T & C's, i also feel that the casino was totaly wrong displaying info to the public like that.

he doesn't do his case any good by being so rude and abusive, but you're probably right. They should say 'next time you do this, we will charge you the full fee'. They probably shouldn't do it without warning.
 

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a very stupid to do

if you dont like a casino dont play at there ppl usually dont do that kind of things like deposit 650$ with insta cash and get back to neteller after with out there is something is nasty there should be wagering becouse casino pays fees .i once did something like i was gonna bet 5k for lakers to be champ i deposit 5000k odd was 1.85 then i found a site who were giving 2.45 i explained them why i did deposit 5000then withdrawed they allowed me to withdraw i lost my bet :(
 

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For those casinoextreme supports , I just cant help laughing.
Snowing sunday is boring , its really funny to see you guys show here.

I won several in a row , and everytime secured my win of $100 , then withdraw.
Whats wrong with that ?

You may say wager 70 win 62 is the way of too quick , thats my gambling skill. :D :D

Do you guys notice I am "21king"

No wonder Casinos can consistently make money on slaughtered Pxxs , I think i found the answer this time.
 

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21kingwu said:
For those casinoextreme supports , I just cant help laughing.
Snowing sunday is boring , its really funny to see you guys show here.

I won several in a row , and everytime secured my win of $100 , then withdraw.
Whats wrong with that ?

You may say wager 70 win 62 is the way of too quick , thats my gambling skill. :D :D

Do you guys notice I am "21king"

No wonder Casinos can consistently make money on slaughtered Pxxs , I think i found the answer this time.


stop being so cocky, i am starting to think about taking the casinos side :D
 

21kingwu

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The money game is nothing rude but Brutal , I would rather see it a war.

Do you experience 20 lose a row in RTG soft, dealer makes 5/6 cards soft everytime. Thats called Rude/Rogued , Not this one.

I apperaciate the Structure of Vegas Already built , they are really nice to players and thats indeed natural real random. As to online , no one protect players benefit except ourself. The so called software regulation and test are totally attract here.

They can do the soft part, we can do on other parts to get it back.

Stock market has SEC to protect small investors. God inhints some balance here.

From now on , I will teach some tricky here. hope it helpful to some real players.:D :D :D

thelawnet said:
he doesn't do his case any good by being so rude and abusive, but you're probably right. They should say 'next time you do this, we will charge you the full fee'. They probably shouldn't do it without warning.
 

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Simmo! said:
Sorry kingwu, i wasn't suggesting that you were money launering. I was merely pointing out to Fruitbat that this is something that has to be tackled by many casinos as part of their legal jurisdictional obligations.

Cheers

Simmo!
By the way, Yes, I'm FRUITBAT....

but ONLY to Simmo! LOL:D
 

slotchik

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Are you sure you're in NY because you type in broken english.
Also, to deposit 750 and wager 70 ....is FISHY at the least!!!

Why didn't you just deposit $250 ????

I take the casino's side here.


21kingwu said:
The money game is nothing rude but Brutal , I would rather see it a war.

Do you experience 20 lose a row in RTG soft, dealer makes 5/6 cards soft everytime. Thats called Rude/Rogued , Not this one.

I apperaciate the Structure of Vegas Already built , they are really nice to players and thats indeed natural real random. As to online , no one protect players benefit except ourself. The so called software regulation and test are totally attract here.

They can do the soft part, we can do on other parts to get it back.

Stock market has SEC to protect small investors. God inhints some balance here.

From now on , I will teach some tricky here. hope it helpful to some real players.:D :D :D
 

21kingwu

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For every new player , How much casino pay you :eek2: :D :D :D

slotchik said:
Also, to deposit 750 and wager 70 ....is FISHY at the least!!!

Why didn't you just deposit $250 ????

I take the casino's side here.
 

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Vanishing points...

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21kingwu

You're overselling your case (and stuff I'm not even sure about... God, your being "21 king", new money, ect...). With a small line-up of supporters that's quickly fleeing, I was in agreement with you in your opening post of this thread (in some ways). The more you say everything that's on your mind and on the tip-of-your-tongue, the more it seems that CasinoExtreme has hired you to make them look good. Stop, take a break, you're just grinding metal-on-metal at this point. You're making Henry (who is one of THE worst online reps. I've ever dealt with, IMHO) look good. His 3 postings (at CM.com) display a HEAVY upgrade over the etiquette I was accustomed to (hey, customer support is VERY important).

There are MANY casinos that are worse than CasinoExtreme. And there are so many better ones as well. They generally do pay their players, IF the player can win anything off of their EXTREME-ly tight games.

Actually, I was quite high (I must have been) on CasinoExtreme a few months back, and I even PM'd the Casinomeister himself out of curiousity as to why they weren't a part of the accredited list. I never did get a response (and I did hear the part about not having time to get to everyone's email in his most recent Webcast, so weez cool ;) ), but I could see for myself that this wasn't such a great casino. Yes, instant withdrawals are wonderful, but it's not the end of the world if you have to wait 24-48 hours either. :cool:

Sidenote: What's up with the cheap photo of that 1980's club dancer on the start-up page at CasinoExtreme? It's like it was taken out of a Poison Video or something. The graphics look as though they were taken off of a 8-bit Nintendo machine.


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