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CasinoExtreme Charge withdraw fee!!! Alert

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by 21kingwu, Dec 9, 2005.

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    Dec 9, 2005
  1. 21kingwu

    21kingwu Dormant account

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    Before you condisder to play at casinoextreme, look at following pic:

    They take the part of winning without notice as the withdraw fee.

    Its a angel(fast withdraw) or eveil, you have your own answer.
     
  2. Dec 9, 2005
  3. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    Rogue?

    They may not have the best reputation, but depositing 750 and giving only 70 of action does somewhat take the p***! (Unless you decision to withdraw is down to a dispute, such as reneging on a promised bonus).
    If you have done this before, I can understand their position. It is common for reputable casinos to ask for 1x wager through of deposits. If not in T & C, it is most likely up to the discresion of management based on previous behaviour. They can get away with this as there is no proper regulation, and they most likely see your patronage as expendable.
    In your favour, their T & C should make their position clear, but 1x deposit should be taken as general guidance. This thread should act as clarification to players that charges may result if little action is given on large deposits.
    Sometimes it IS in T & C, but not in plain language, they rattle on about not allowing the account to be used primarily as a "Money transfer service", this means (in plain language), Don't deposit 750 if only 70 worth of bets are going to be played before you withdraw.
     
  4. Dec 9, 2005
  5. silcnlayc

    silcnlayc Just one more spin pleez! CAG MM PABnonaccred PABaccred

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    I play at eXtreme and others where they have a $1 withdrawal fee which I happily pay because of the promptness of receiving my funds in my account (5 minutes to 24 hrs). That is worth (the promptness) every penny in my opinion!
     
  6. Dec 9, 2005
  7. slotchik

    slotchik Dormant account

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    and why would you deposit 750 and only wager 70???

    if you're only going to wager that much, why not just deposit 100?

    explain that
     
  8. Dec 9, 2005
  9. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    That would be a common thing for money launderers to do Slotchik. Use a casino as an easy way to transfer cash from a to b where other ways either a) cost or b) leave an unwanted paper trail. Most casinos take some sort of preventative action, and this is obviously theirs. Its quite reasonable as the casino would land in hot water if it was proven that they facilitated this offence.
     
  10. Dec 10, 2005
  11. 21kingwu

    21kingwu Dormant account

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    I took the advantage of InstantCash.

    Am I wrong ? if you are the owner of casino , Its your part to cover the cost of those deposit and withdraw through Neteller , I didnt care . Something like
    Merchant pay transauctions fee to Master/Visa.

    I dont Apply/Claim ANY bonus though.

    I play as many hands as I want . vinylweatherman, what your logic on casino side.

    In case if I lose , do they refund back??? absolutely NOT.
     
  12. Dec 10, 2005
  13. 21kingwu

    21kingwu Dormant account

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    Money Laundrying , you must be kidding?

    say A & B heads up , A intend to lost all money to B , thats money laundrying.
    Many Drug seller did that way through landbased casino.

    I am just taking advantage of Instantcash. those damn casinos deserve that.

     
  14. Dec 10, 2005
  15. 21kingwu

    21kingwu Dormant account

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    Thats funny

    Is any casino ruled out that you must lose up to $xx before you can cash out?

    I dont claim any bonus/promotion , totally deposit play , winning is my lucky .

    whats the hell of that saying I cant deposit 750 to wager 70????

     
  16. Dec 10, 2005
  17. thelawnet

    thelawnet Dormant account

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    really? why is that?

    why would they want to act as your banking service for free?
     
  18. Dec 10, 2005
  19. scrollock

    scrollock Senior Member

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    boro, uk
     
  20. Dec 10, 2005
  21. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    Sorry kingwu, i wasn't suggesting that you were money launering. I was merely pointing out to Fruitbat that this is something that has to be tackled by many casinos as part of their legal jurisdictional obligations.

    Cheers

    Simmo!
     
  22. Dec 10, 2005
  23. 21kingwu

    21kingwu Dormant account

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    Hello, Simmo
    Thanks for your pointing out.

    Gambling is not borning to be a polite business , many dark/sneaky/fishy inside.

    No wonder US politican still aim to restrict gambling in some torelable degree.

    Those damn casinos( eg Casinoextreme ) wont refund you if you lose you all

    I just fully commit their terms and conditions , and take advantage of their back hole.

    Do you heard any reputable casino would force player to wager before withdraw
    If the operator cant afford the operating expense( eg deposit fee) , why they run it well..
    Thats the cost of this business.

    Unfortunately I did successfully. hiahia , Happy to hunter over $1000 in a week and they still overpay the instant 8.9% fee. hiahia,
     
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  25. 21kingwu

    21kingwu Dormant account

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    Once you lose your pants , they took far more than deposit fee from you.

    such mania zealots are dark casino badly need. LOL.

     
  26. Dec 10, 2005
  27. aodat2

    aodat2 Senior Member PABnononaccred PABnoaccred2 PABaccred2

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    This is what I have to say...

    If I were the casino, I would have kept your money for 6 months or so then only pay up. Why? Well because it would be a reasonable thing to do. To deposit via Neteller will cost the casino money. If you think a casino should take the fees up right, then think again. 1 or 2 persons doing so would not be a problem at all. I'm sure the fees are bareable but what if everyone does this?

    Lets just take a small scenario. Each Neteller Deposit & Withdrawal cost $5 per $100. If 1 person makes a $1000 deposit and withdrawal and playing only $10, the casino would be losing $90 (in and out) even if the player loses the $10. Now that's for 1 person. If 1,000 people do it, that would be $90,000 loss in fees alone.

    1x WR is to keep money launderers away and at least giving themselves the chance of getting back the fees from the player itself.

    If you still feel that Casino Extreme is wrong on this, then I suggest you open up a casino and let me try doing this to you everyday. I just wanna see how long you can last before you start doing the same thing.

    I'm totally sorry but I'm totally on Casino Extreme's side on this. It's a VERY GOOD thing that they pay you. They could have easily cosidered you as a Money Launderer and locked your account without a second thought.

    Don't just think of yourself. Think of it on the casino's POV as well. What would you have done if you're the casino?
     
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  29. 21kingwu

    21kingwu Dormant account

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    I doubt you played at Casinoextreme before .
    Once you know how rogue it is , you would agree with my point
    I wont be stupid as you to collect my money in 6 month.Only play instant payout or 1-2 day payout reputable casinos

    Since you cant afford such expense , why you bother to run this business???

    BTW , you are right , I am encourging more PPL did this way to revenge on such stupid casino. LOL
     
  30. Dec 10, 2005
  31. aodat2

    aodat2 Senior Member PABnononaccred PABnoaccred2 PABaccred2

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    Perhaps you might wanna try doing it at InterCasino, 32Red, iNetBet, or anywhere which is reputable and see what happens.

    I would like to know their response in this. I bet their decision would be the same as mine. Either hold the account, report you to the Feds. and/or lock the account with the money still in it and if they are good enough, return it to you after a certain period of time.

    Trust me, doing so constitutes to you being a Money Launderer.

    Try opening your own casino and allow me to do this a few times to you and you'll start saying the same thing Casino Extreme is. Better yet, just open an account with those I mention above and do the same thing. See what they do. Do tell us the result :)
     
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  33. 21kingwu

    21kingwu Dormant account

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    Hiahia , you must be kidding

    If they dare to report Fed or FBI, they would open their business in America instead of those no regulation judirsation.
    Dare they ?

    I appericiate BODOG , INETBET, VIPSPORTS, there are the only reason keep me playing online, I deposit and play long , I think they wont do some ugly in backside.

    For such dumpester like casinoextreme , in case they hold my money
    I call my banks to reverse charge includes all the previous deposits

    WHO fear who .
     
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  35. 21kingwu

    21kingwu Dormant account

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    I am not money laundrying ,wager 70 winning 56 is not laundrying
    norther opening a casino
    You know how many ppl died/suicide due to lost all in casino ,
    GOD eyes open, will punish those rogued operator eventually.

    I fully complied the terms and conditions , its a Fair Business
    If they request 1x wager , I wager 1x , nothing required, I play as long as I like

    I play on my own freedom

    Its funny to see too many ppl jumps out to speak for casinos, I knew your guys are affiliate concern, MONEY talks . LOL, LOL.

     
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  37. aodat2

    aodat2 Senior Member PABnononaccred PABnoaccred2 PABaccred2

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    Now, this is what I call someone who should be put in security alert!

    Anyone who put this words outright and straight from their mouth should not be allowed to play in ANY online casinos at all.

    "...in case they hold my money I call my banks to reverse charge includes all the previous deposits"

    Wonderfully said. I guess I should actually show this post to Bodog, iNetBet and VIPSports.

    Goodness... the people we are getting in these boards now-a-days.
     
  38. Dec 10, 2005
  39. 21kingwu

    21kingwu Dormant account

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    You are sick , do you miss the the pre-condition:

    If they dare to froze my account . then I will request reverse charge.

    I wonder which casino are you from?
     
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