Question Can someone be this lucky on slots?

[Steviedoo]

Don't casinos reserve the right to prohibit the winnings or terminate a player's account? I would have thought every one of them has some type of FU clause in there somewhere, surely

I mean the guy's robbing them blind. I'd imagine they expect the game to even out over so many sessions, but it's taking it's sweet time.

Just pull the plug already

Why pull the plug.....And yet when they do....we will yell foul...no mercy for the casino...sorry.

 

[goatwack]

Why pull the plug.....And yet when they do....we will yell foul...no mercy for the casino...sorry.

Hey I'm not pro- casino, just saying they could, not that I'd expect them to. Who wouldn't keep playing there if the slot was that hot

 

[Steviedoo]

Hey I'm not pro- casino, just saying they could, not that I'd expect them to. Who wouldn't keep playing there if the slot was that hot

I’m looking at the divine fortune slot as we speak....

 

[brianmon]

Since it's a NetEnt progressive slot. The player is obviously Scandinavian

 

[cpdnd31]

I would like to know if this is a casino worker or an affiliate giving out this kind of info? I am very confused on how he would know all of these stats as an affiliate?

 

[Jasminebed]

The casino could pay the player any outstanding winnings and close his account. Every casino T&Cs have a clause to terminate the account for any reason, as long as they do retain not the winnings just because they suspect the player is using an exploit.

I rather liked Divine Fortune, I had a few good sessions on it before I could no longer play NetEnt. If I had a game I won on nearly daily, I could see myself playing that exclusively.

 

[Vibroverb]

I am a Casino manager so I can see everything. The player has logged in last night, cancelled 20k, made it into 30k and withdrew. I'm not looking for sympathy and know losing is the nature of the game, but I thought the house always wins, especially the longer you play, and I thought Live Casino is somewhere where players could influence the result with their choices, but slots? 99% of his stakes are 200, when he's down he might lower them but as long as he has over a 1000 on his account, he'll be spinning for 200.

Thanks to all of you for letting me know your opinion, and confirming this is not normal. After Netent's answer that was all I wanted, a 2nd opinion.

 

[Borgie]

I am a Casino manager so I can see everything. The player has logged in last night, cancelled 20k, made it into 30k and withdrew. I'm not looking for sympathy and know losing is the nature of the game, but I thought the house always wins, especially the longer you play, and I thought Live Casino is somewhere where players could influence the result with their choices, but slots? 99% of his stakes are 200, when he's down he might lower them but as long as he has over a 1000 on his account, he'll be spinning for 200.

Thanks to all of you for letting me know your opinion, and confirming this is not normal. After Netent's answer that was all I wanted, a 2nd opinion.

What are you going to do ? Surely our opinions are just opinions ! We have no proof that anything's broken.

 

[trancemonkey]

I am a Casino manager so I can see everything. The player has logged in last night, cancelled 20k, made it into 30k and withdrew. I'm not looking for sympathy and know losing is the nature of the game, but I thought the house always wins, especially the longer you play, and I thought Live Casino is somewhere where players could influence the result with their choices, but slots? 99% of his stakes are 200, when he's down he might lower them but as long as he has over a 1000 on his account, he'll be spinning for 200.

Thanks to all of you for letting me know your opinion, and confirming this is not normal. After Netent's answer that was all I wanted, a 2nd opinion.

So he's playing at 200 and withdrawing 20,000? So he's only really increasing his starting balance by a factor of 4....

My guess is the game is volatile enough that this is possible - any game is at those types of bets. And he's more likely to win the progressives at that bet size - even though as a proportion of the RTP the wins are the same....

Why don't you just reduce the max bet, and therefore max liability - see if he keeps playing. If he's found a bug, he'll just take longer to win but will still win - and you'll notice straight away from his behavior.

Alternatively, if you can't be sure there isn't a bug - remove that game, or ban him. If you DO ban him, pay him first and then ban him - otherwise you might have a court case on your hands. Cut your losses.

 

[homerbert]

Hey!

I believe it is okay, and I'm not sure about statement from casino manager RE 'he is withdrawing 20.000 SEK' ? It's 2k EUR no?

Anyway, as I'm player myself I think it is okay, and sometimes players wins. Sometimes player can win many times in a row. Sometimes lucky streak can be almost on each deposit, and sometimes it is require a lot of time to see customer starting losing. Sometimes customer not return and runs away from casino like a god

It's nature of slots, it will be pointless if you can't be lucky.

Another question - did you sent request to netent to check the player? Imo, it is better than asking players on forum.

And as other suggested - if you think something wrong - pay player and close his account. Simple as that.

Br,

Vitali

 

[Vibroverb]

Thanks, unless the player's found a way to exploit us I wouldn't ban him, I don't like banning players because they're winning, and the game brings enough in TO and revenue that it wouldn't make sense to pull it down altogether.

We will leave it be until the end of the month, see what he does, as we have no proof there is anything dodgy going on, so maybe he's on a lucky 3 month streak, as I checked his account and he wasn't as lucky in the first 3 months so hopefully it'll go back to that. Over the last 3 months, the slot's paid him an average of 103.7% rtp and it should start to go down any day now Just waiting on him to reverse his withdrawals and start again. I can see he's logged in 3 times already today but still hasn't played or reversed.

 

[Supababe]

If you manage to find the bug (I believe it is totally possible as I too have seen very over lucky players), feel free to pm me the details of the bug lol.

I’ll only use it where I have made heavy losses I promise x

 

[DreamRJ]

If you manage to find the bug (I believe it is totally possible as I too have seen very over lucky players), feel free to pm me the details of the bug lol.

I’ll only use it where I have made heavy losses I promise x

I second that. If if it a bug then feel free to let me know too. I will also promise not to exploit it yeah I know right lol

 

[Vibroverb]

Deal! If I discover a bug I will let you guys know before contacting Netent, of course, I will have to test it out myself so I don't waste your time and money

 

[DreamRJ]

Deal! If I discover a bug I will let you guys know before contacting Netent, of course, I will have to test it out myself so I don't waste your time and money

lol good sport

 

[Jasminebed]

Thanks, unless the player's found a way to exploit us I wouldn't ban him, I don't like banning players because they're winning, and the game brings enough in TO and revenue that it wouldn't make sense to pull it down altogether.

We will leave it be until the end of the month, see what he does, as we have no proof there is anything dodgy going on, so maybe he's on a lucky 3 month streak, as I checked his account and he wasn't as lucky in the first 3 months so hopefully it'll go back to that. Over the last 3 months, the slot's paid him an average of 103.7% rtp and it should start to go down any day now Just waiting on him to reverse his withdrawals and start again. I can see he's logged in 3 times already today but still hasn't played or reversed.

If he's logging in without playing, I suspect he's waiting for the jackpots to be sufficient size to make the game +EV. If it wasn't him, another player would win them, and fits with the game's overall RTP being expected overall. So I'd say this player is not hurting your bottom line in any way, as these jackpots would be won regardless.

You might want to look at your policies for the large volume of withdrawals and reversals. I'm sure this must incur some administrative costs.

 

[Vibroverb]

Very good points here, thank you. He's just logged in, reversed 20k and is back on the (divine fortune) horse @ 200 per spin. If I do find the bug or something, my deal is still valid....just like the guy selling winning strategies on Dreamcatcher

 

[gilliebean]

Very good points here, thank you. He's just logged in, reversed 20k and is back on the (divine fortune) horse @ 200 per spin. If I do find the bug or something, my deal is still valid....just like the guy selling winning strategies on Dreamcatcher

Haha, my first thought when you made that offer was of him and his ‘strategies’

Could it be the high stakes affecting the RTP? Are other players who are high rolling at a similar level getting a similar RTP etc?

I have no idea how it all works to be honest - I cringe placing 80p stakes, let alone £200 (or the equivalent)

(Feel free to PM any bug details - unless your casino is in Nigeria... )

 

[Vibroverb]

He's just amde that 20k in 30k and withdrew it all....less than 30 minutes of playing.

The reason I say it's the 200 per spin is that he is the only one spinning that much, consistently. I don't recall any other players on Divine Fortune playing at the same stakes as him, so at least that is what is unique about him, other than his rtp%. There are no other players playing 200 per spin so consistently so that I could compare their rtp%. He has won the most from all the winning players on Divine Fortune over the last 3 months.

 

[dionysus]

As others have mentioned can you not simply lower the stake of the game? There's nothing untoward about a casino protecting their bottom line.

 

[greylady]

Why would someone log on and just not play or anything, seems to be he is waiting for something to 'happen', which he then takes advantage off - does sound strange.

 

[zap987]

If he's logging in without playing, I suspect he's waiting for the jackpots to be sufficient size to make the game +EV. If it wasn't him, another player would win them, and fits with the game's overall RTP being expected overall. So I'd say this player is not hurting your bottom line in any way, as these jackpots would be won regardless.

Only the top jackpot is progressive on this game, the two smaller 'jackpots' are just 20 and 100x the bet. RTP of the game is 96.59% with 3.7% going towards the jackpot. The mega jackpot would have to get pretty big to push rtp over 100%. Definitely strange that someone can be that lucky on a game with about 93% rtp but we don't know over how many spins it is.

 

[iterativ]

Excuse me ? I can't believe what I am reading on this thread. We all understand that the odds are against the players. So, if someone by luck manage to win something, sure go on, ban them. If casinos employ such strategies, let me know, so I am not going to deposit anymore.

Certainly, it doesn't appear to be a "small" player, but even so, I don't understand the animosity towards a winner. Is Casinomeister a site for players or casino representatives and affiliates ? Netent even conformed that is nothing wrong with the game.

If you turn 20K to 30K with a stake of 200 is similar to winning 10 with the min stake 0.2. Many here did that repeatedly, I assume ?

As others mentioned, the casino can very well change the max allowed bet if they are not comfortable with it. There are many online casinos nowadays that offer stakes for all types of players.

 

[DreamRJ]

He's just amde that 20k in 30k and withdrew it all....less than 30 minutes of playing.

The reason I say it's the 200 per spin is that he is the only one spinning that much, consistently. I don't recall any other players on Divine Fortune playing at the same stakes as him, so at least that is what is unique about him, other than his rtp%. There are no other players playing 200 per spin so consistently so that I could compare their rtp%. He has won the most from all the winning players on Divine Fortune over the last 3 months.

Are you talking about euros? or sek or nok ? 200sek spins would only be 20 euro spins and not 200euro spins. The max bet on on divine fortune is £100 So it must be in sek or nok then. So €20 euro bets. Cos it is a ratio of 10/1 to euro.

 

[DreamRJ]

Haha, my first thought when you made that offer was of him and his ‘strategies’

Could it be the high stakes affecting the RTP? Are other players who are high rolling at a similar level getting a similar RTP etc?

I have no idea how it all works to be honest - I cringe placing 80p stakes, let alone £200 (or the equivalent)

(Feel free to PM any bug details - unless your casino is in Nigeria... )

It is not in euro. Max bet on divine fortune is only €100 so 200sek or 200nok is €20 euro bets!