New Slot Announcement Buffalo Rising Megaways (Blueprint)

[nikantw]

I rarely buy it, I always play the game how it is been offered. I mean lets be serious, if the price for buying a feature is x times bet, the avg payout of the feature will be slight below it.
Going mental on feature buy is just a minus EV purchase. Similar to every single bet you place on any single slot game. Variance makes people lucky or very unhappy. But if you only buy features, you increase the variance of a slot for yourself by the multiplier costs of the feature buy.
And imo here comes the fun aspect of extra chilli with their 50x buyin for a feature. You can gamble.

Every slot with a gamble feature and every friend who wants to use the feature I always say: listen mate, your initial bet had a negative expected value. You win? Great! Why would risk a win that was negative on a 50/50?

Opposite:
I think feature buying is great. When I deposit 250 Euros, hit 3 jokers on Joker Pro on a 5 Euro bet and have 5k in my balance. I dont mind buying them.

As far as I can remember: I never bought a feature to chase losses. I only bought them when lucky and feeling to skip those main game hits.

So thats my point of view, problem solved if we all apply the same approach?

Kr.

I almost never buy features in real play. Because I usually don't have the balance for it. Golden rule is not to gamble more than 1%-2% of your balance.
I mean, who would up their average bet 100 times? That is 100% of the balance.

But if your usual bet is $10, buying features with the cost of $10 is a great idea.
UKGC with the SOW has this covered, but they may also add that forced max bet limit < 2% of your balance. I think its a good idea, maybe?

 

[L&L-Jan]

I almost never buy features in real play. Because I usually don't have the balance for it. Golden rule is not to gamble more than 1%-2% of your balance.
I mean, who would up their average bet 100 times? That is 100% of the balance.

But if your usual bet is $10, buying features with the cost of $10 is a great idea.
UKGC with the SOW has this covered, but they may also add that forced max bet limit < 2% of your balance. I think its a good idea, maybe?

Follow my rule, dont take it to the 2nd level mate

 

[L&L-Jan]

No just kidding mate, but i think a regular bet of 2% will not include a feature buy. Because that is not a regular bet.
Anyway, from experience, there is always so much interpertation around termininology applied in gaming.
I'm just simply leaning to: buy it when you feel comfortable, dont when you are chasing.
For me comfortable buying is when im up big time. So crack on

 

[trancemonkey]

I rarely buy it, I always play the game how it is been offered. I mean lets be serious, if the price for buying a feature is x times bet, the avg payout of the feature will be slight below it.
Going mental on feature buy is just a minus EV purchase. Similar to every single bet you place on any single slot game. Variance makes people lucky or very unhappy. But if you only buy features, you increase the variance of a slot for yourself by the multiplier costs of the feature buy.
And imo here comes the fun aspect of extra chilli with their 50x buyin for a feature. You can gamble.

Every slot with a gamble feature and every friend who wants to use the feature I always say: listen mate, your initial bet had a negative expected value. You win? Great! Why would risk a win that was negative on a 50/50?

Opposite:
I think feature buying is great. When I deposit 250 Euros, hit 3 jokers on Joker Pro on a 5 Euro bet and have 5k in my balance. I dont mind buying them.

As far as I can remember: I never bought a feature to chase losses. I only bought them when lucky and feeling to skip those main game hits.

So thats my point of view, problem solved if we all apply the same approach?

Kr.

That's exactly the problem... People don't follow those rules. Sure some do... I do 95% of the time.

But people that would never dream of betting 50 quid a spin are now tempted to bet at 50 quid for a feature. And once you've bet at those levels its very very hard to come back down to 60p.

Which is why I am almost 90% certain we are going to see things like this banned in the next few years because Extra Chilli took it to a whole new level by allowing people to buy a feature which, with a three scatter trigger, was almost pointless to take.

So they basically made gambling a necessity. That, my friend, is where they crossed the line. At least on this you can't gamble and lose the lot...

And the SOW argument is flawed. If I can afford to lose £100 a month, should I also be encouraged to spunk it all on one Bonus Buy where I can gamble and lose it all in 10 seconds.

Gambling should be fun and as an industry we have a duty to protect people from themselves as much as possible. Yes of course they should have self control too... And yes as games providers we are in it to make money and getting people to spend money is our job BUT if we get people to spunk it all in one go, that's not a good experience. We are likely to lose players not keep them coming back - short term gain and possible long term pain. Players that have a good time and lose only what they can afford to lose are likely to be long term players and therefore make you more money overall.

This is just my opinion and I have no real data to say whether extra chilli or any other game for that matter has caused more problem gamblers than any other game. But I wouldn't be surprised that if that data were available that it had helped to produce more self exclusions than most other games.

 

[theapple]

Yeah, played this in demo a few weeks back and amazingly see the lack of winning spins when starting at 10 multiplier....

but but... every spin is random spin. or so they say.

 

[KasinoKing]

but but... every spin is random spin. or so they say.

Every BASE GAME spin is a random spin - the features are pre-determined on this type of slot, I am virtually certain.

The RTP's for each choice of free-spins MUST be the same, otherwise the game could be "exploited" AND it wouldn't be a fair game for players.

e.g. If you NEVER played the base game, but only bought features, then legally the TRTP has to be the same for each choice, because who knows if you choose the same one every time?

KK

 

[trancemonkey]

Every BASE GAME spin is a random spin - the features are pre-determined on this type of slot, I am virtually certain.

The RTP's for each choice of free-spins MUST be the same, otherwise the game could be "exploited" AND it wouldn't be a fair game for players.

e.g. If you NEVER played the base game, but only bought features, then legally the TRTP has to be the same for each choice, because who knows if you choose the same one every time?

KK

Not necessarily predetermined but each option could use different maths as long as the RTP was the same ....

 

[L&L-Jan]

e.g. If you NEVER played the base game, but only bought features, then legally the TRTP has to be the same for each choice, because who knows if you choose the same one every time?

KK

Correct mate, but dont you agree that variance in the featue is much more volatile as in the main game?

 

[L&L-Jan]

I just realised, I have a problem with my REP account!
I'm talking as a player on my REP account and that shouldnt be the case, or is it fine?
I'm also posting pictures from other casino as a REP.
Shall I ask for two accounts? Player and REP?

 

[ReggieMac]

Well I will be giving this a wide berth. Even in fun mode the bonus buy is incredibly disappointing to the point of looking at it thinking WTF? Out of 30 bonus buys I never once got back the purchase price let alone won anything. As the masochist that I am I even bought 5 with real money to quieten the increasing louder tin foiler in my head. Same crappy result, not one return on investment let alone a win. Hey-ho, got to try it though eh?

 

[dionysus]

I just realised, I have a problem with my REP account!
I'm talking as a player on my REP account and that shouldnt be the case, or is it fine?
I'm also posting pictures from other casino as a REP.
Shall I ask for two accounts? Player and REP?

well, whether you want 2 accounts is your prerogative, but as for talking like a player, reps are players and people too

 

[lotusch]

Feature Buy option is horseshit and in worse case it can strip a player for multiple thousands of Euro's / Pounds in the space of minutes.
It is dangerous and I do not know why this actually was approved to be implemented.
I can see people lose their savings / wages / car / house and I am sure this has happened and is happening as we speak.

Vile and evil, this buy your feature!!!

Has nothing to do with responsible gambling and I don't think this adds anything more than bankrupt and weeping players.

 

[nikantw]

And the SOW argument is flawed. If I can afford to lose £100 a month, should I also be encouraged to spunk it all on one Bonus Buy where I can gamble and lose it all in 10 seconds.

I said that, the SOW, but I also added an extra rule, didn't I? The forced max bet limit < 2% of the balance. Not fair to answer to me without bringing this up, is it?

And what about the other thing I keep mentioning, the option to bet $10 to buy a feature instead of betting $10 on a spin on any other slot?

I agree with you that the option to gamble the feature you bought (and lose it all) in Extra Chilly is too much. But the ban is wrong. The ban is a bad thing.
The forced max bet limit < 2% of the balance, combined with SOW and the option to buy features at a much smaller cost (normal min bet down to $0.01) is exactly what this needs.

 

[KasinoKing]

Correct mate, but dont you agree that variance in the featue is much more volatile as in the main game?

Dunno mate - haven't played it yet!

But if it's anything like Genie Jackpots Magaways, then I would say the base game is higher variance because of the Random Lamp feature.
A friend of mine has hit a couple of x900+ wins off that (Something you will likely never see from normal symbol wins in the base game).
Does this one have a random feature in the base game?

KK

 

[paul7388]

I just realised, I have a problem with my REP account!
I'm talking as a player on my REP account and that shouldnt be the case, or is it fine?
I'm also posting pictures from other casino as a REP.
Shall I ask for two accounts? Player and REP?

It is actually nice to see a Rep joining in and talking as a normal player as well as a Rep.

Up to you if you want another account but don't think there is a need.

You are still here to do your Rep duties but that does not stop you joining in. More Rep's that join in the better. Very few do Mark and a few others just.

 

[BrianGhattas]

They are tempting me.

I had some good wins in Diamond Mine but I have a bad feeling about Buffalo Rising. I’ll probably play it out of desperation.

 

[Playford7]

See’s bonus buy mentioned...
Walks away.
That’s not slotting, that’s a online fobty zzz

 

[trancemonkey]

I said that, the SOW, but I also added an extra rule, didn't I? The forced max bet limit < 2% of the balance. Not fair to answer to me without bringing this up, is it?

And what about the other thing I keep mentioning, the option to bet $10 to buy a feature instead of betting $10 on a spin on any other slot?

I agree with you that the option to gamble the feature you bought (and lose it all) in Extra Chilly is too much. But the ban is wrong. The ban is a bad thing.
The forced max bet limit < 2% of the balance, combined with SOW and the option to buy features at a much smaller cost (normal min bet down to $0.01) is exactly what this needs.

That would be kind of unworkable... Because your max bet would constantly change after every spin. The only workable solution would be Max Bet of no greater than 2% of your deposit. That way if you deposit £100 you can only bet at £2 for the entirety of the session. If you deposit again with a lower amount while you still have funds greater than 1x max bet, the initial max bet limit applies. If you make a higher deposit, the higher max bet would apply.

Something like that could work... But the % of balance would be quite confusing... If you put in 100 you could only bet at 2 once then your bet would have to drop....

 

[nikantw]

My best so far:

A natural bonus of 5 spins starting from x10



And a base game 96 ways 5oak bears

 

[L&L-Jan]

Ow buddy, forgot to say but All British is excluded for this promo

 

[L&L-Jan]

Hit verified, cash prize added.

 

[NeverLucky]

Hit verified, cash prize added.

Any chance you would know if Merkur/Blueprint are planning on becoming available for the German market again in the near future?

 

[robby811]

Any chance you would know if Merkur/Blueprint are planning on becoming available for the German market again in the near future?

I have send you a PM.

It would be my personal dream to get MERKUR back i would do anything for it...

 

[steveh35]

I have just bought 10 bonus rounds on this on free play and only got my stake back on one of the rounds, give it a try for free see if anyone does any better but I will avoid this one I think.

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[TheAverageGuy]

Good, I can stop trying. Worst... Slot... Ever...

until tomorrow.