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Brexit - whats the difference.....

Wot?? The Blatantly Biased Collektiv favouring the remoaners? Well I never! What a revelation. They have a permanent news article background of remoaner stooges defacing the Union Flag with that disgusting artificial E-USSR stars rag whenever they feature a Brexit story anyway. The urban trendies and Guardianistas that make 90% of the BBC staff would never be so biased.....
 
Kroffe said:
When i searched for "BBC" at my favorite casino (pornhub casino) something completely different showed up.
I was just trying to find a slot about British Bolshevik Communists. :(
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oh yeah.I know those news chanels very well :laugh:
and on pronhub there is a casino tab, was thinking it's the porn casino but to redirects to Bao casino, grey zone on CM
so all in one place :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
sorry for off topic :cheerleader:
 
Soubry is the no 1 example of a disgusting self serving mp, would lose in any local election now, yet thinks she can cancel Brexit
 
steveh35 said:
Hahaha some hilarious comments on the internet from unhappy seething remainers, calling for the army to be brought in and arrest the government and some saying this is how the Nazi's started etc etc.

Gotta love remainer tantrums
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Funny that. We have all sorts of rag-tag leftist/neo-marxist democracy deniers clubbing together to try and force out the elected Con/DUP administration and install Lenin and the LieBore party into office without an election, all motivated by the fact they don't want to action the outcome of a people's vote aka the 2016 Brexit referendum!!!

And they call Johnson a Nazi.....pmsl, the irony!

Johnson is playing dirty to make sure we get our wish and get of that bloody EU, as we ordered 3 years ago. Like they themselves have played dirty in the HoC to ensure May's deal and therefore Brexit was never actioned. They can hardly complain can they? Sauce for the goose etc......

 
Hurrah, hail Sir Boris!!
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Cue the @ChopleyIOM YT video, the final scene of the first Planet of the Apes film when they spot the nuked Statue of Liberty "Oh no! They actually went and did it...."
 
Ah, it's a wonderment to see the likes of 'impartial' Remainers like John Bercow spit into their tea and call the whole thing an affront to the democratic process :laugh:

No, it's not satire. This lot are for real
 
It'll be interesting to see how the EU respond now. They will not want a no deal scenario at all.

My guess is they'll backtrack and offer us a tweaked deal more in our favour than the last abomination. A deal will probably pass at the 11th hour.
 
Mr_Slot5 said:
It'll be interesting to see how the EU respond now. They will not want a no deal scenario at all.

My guess is they'll backtrack and offer us a tweaked deal more in our favour than the last abomination. A deal will probably pass at the 11th hour.
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Lol. You gotta be quite delusional or you brits just don't understand english. EU has been very consistant about its position. You don't deserve any kind of special treatment.
 
Sadly, Brexiteers continue to over-estimate the UK’s importance in the world.

We’re a small island nation, with declining industry, dependent on services that we provide to the EU, lead by a government with a working majority of one, and we’re fucked.

If you think the Tories are in it for anyone other than the Tories, you’re deluded. If you think a no-deal Brexit can be anything better than terrible for all, you’re deluded.

You don’t tear up 700 pages of international treaties created over half a century without a plan. Unless you listen to Dave Wetherspoon and Nigel Farage. And Tommeh.
 
The EU has renegotiated and budged countless times.

The deal offered was the result of a UK request.

Why should the EU fuck over 27 other countries because the one leaving has been taken over by spin, spivs, racists and fascists?
 
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danofthewibble said:
The EU has renegotiated and budged countless times.

The deal offered was the result of a UK request.

Why should the EU fuck over 27 other countries because the one leaving has been taken over by spin, spivs, racists and fascists?
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The deal was rejected therefore it needs reopening and changed which eu is refusing so it is down to them to negotiate
 
danofthewibble said:
That’s not how deals work. You offer to buy something the other party doesn’t need to sell. You get given terms. If you don’t like the terms, you don’t get to buy it.
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We are not their buyers we are still part of this horrible club and they won't let us out of it without the withdrawal agreement we are not buying until they let us leave the shop, until we pay them to be let out. So it is a joint agreement to leave not the EU telling us how we go.
 
danofthewibble said:
Why should the EU fuck over 27 other countries because the one leaving has been taken over by spin, spivs, racists and fascists?
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Because it's preferable to fucking over 28 countries as they do now.
 
vorcirion said:
You bring us a good deal and we'll start from there. If you don't come up with anything better...then it's the current deal or no deal brexit.
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What do you mean "us" are you suddenly in charge of this corrupt organisation and working for them in Brussels?

May I remind "us" that we are still part of this club and therefore we don't need to bring you anything as we are asking to leave at the moment nothing else.
 
If we leave the “club”, why expect to retain any benefits of the same?

Don’t be ludicrous.

Leaving is ludicrous, but if you’re happy with the chaos to come as a result, fine. But you can go to the back of the food queues when the ports are backed up because there’s no free trade agreements. I think that’s fair.
 
vorcirion said:
Lol. You gotta be quite delusional or you brits just don't understand english. EU has been very consistant about its position. You don't deserve any kind of special treatment.
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Well considering that the UK is one of only a few EU states that have a net positive contribution to the EU budget, can you explain how the shortfall in contributions will be made up and how countries relying on grants will feel about having their payments cut (unless Germany and France are willing to contribute more?) Genuine question by the way.

Lol.
 
danofthewibble said:
If we leave the “club”, why expect to retain any benefits of the same?

Don’t be ludicrous.

Leaving is ludicrous, but if you’re happy with the chaos to come as a result, fine. But you can go to the back of the food queues when the ports are backed up because there’s no free trade agreements. I think that’s fair.
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Who said I want to retain any "benefits", not that I can think of many, we leave the club we leave it why would i want to keep anything we will be our own country with our own rules.
 
Mr_Slot5 said:
Well considering that the UK is one of only a few EU states that have a net positive contribution to the EU budget, can you explain how the shortfall in contributions will be made up and how countries relying on grants will feel about having their payments cut (unless Germany and France are willing to contribute more?) Genuine question by the way.

Lol.
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Well you have contributed around 9 billion a year. So your 39 billion donation to the EU will last for 4,5 years thank you very much <3. And I hope EU negotiators will make some nice deals for us with the UK so maybe getting some extra cash from there. But after that...yeah there will need to be some cuts of course! I'm sure EU can handle it.
 
vorcirion said:
Well you have contributed around 9 billion a year. So your 39 billion donation to the EU will last for 4,5 years thank you very much <3. And I hope EU negotiators will make some nice deals for us with the UK so maybe getting some extra cash from there. But after that...yeah there will need to be some cuts of course! I'm sure EU can handle it.
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Exactly it. The whole point of a union. Stronger together.

Sadly, we’re about to float off on our own. As Trump said, The EU was an anchor.

Now we’re off to drift aimlessly.

Say bye to the NHS. Food standards. Free trade for years to come.
 
danofthewibble said:
Exactly it. The whole point of a union. Stronger together.

Sadly, we’re about to float off on our own. As Trump said, The EU was an anchor.

Now we’re off to drift aimlessly.

Say bye to the NHS. Food standards. Free trade for years to come.
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Grow up goodbye to NHS crap typical remainer nonsense when you have run out of excuses and I work in NHS and NOBODY in nhs even mentions Brexit it's all in your remainer heads.

We are not stronger in a EU union we never have been we subsidise the poorer nations and have to agree with 27 other nations on our own we decide things for ourselves.
 
steveh35 said:
Grow up goodbye to NHS crap typical remainer nonsense when you have run out of excuses and I work in NHS and NOBODY in nhs even mentions Brexit it's all in your remainer heads.

We are not stronger in a EU union we never have been we subsidise the poorer nations and have to agree with 27 other nations on our own we decide things for ourselves.
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What’s wrong with helping poorer nations? That’s being part of a good society.

You think Boris won’t sell the NHS down the river for a trade deal with the US?

You think the UK will be in any position to bargain?

The NHS is already struggling to recruit staff. Not enough people in the UK want to be in medicine.

This country is a minnow and it’s about to be eaten alive.

But still, you got your blue passports.
 
danofthewibble said:
What’s wrong with helping poorer nations? That’s being part of a good society.

You think Boris won’t sell the NHS down the river for a trade deal with the US?

You think the UK will be in any position to bargain?

The NHS is already struggling to recruit staff. Not enough people in the UK want to be in medicine.

This country is a minnow and it’s about to be eaten alive.

But still, you got your blue passports.
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So childish I would say it's the most ridiculous thing I have heard today had I not just seen people comparing Boris Johnson's suspending of parliament to Hitler and the Nazis in 1933.

You remainers really are a spanner short of a toolbox.
 
steveh35 said:
Grow up goodbye to NHS crap typical remainer nonsense when you have run out of excuses and I work in NHS and NOBODY in nhs even mentions Brexit it's all in your remainer heads.

We are not stronger in a EU union we never have been we subsidise the poorer nations and have to agree with 27 other nations on our own we decide things for ourselves.
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I urge you just like I did mack to read the US proposal for a trade deal! I posted a link to the document earlier in this thread, I doubt you made the effort to read it because you rather believe what Farage and Boris tell you.

Agreeing to just 50% of what they ask will make you a slave of the US. Yeeehaw!
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Vaya con dios! Please leave as planned! :D

By now most in the EU will be happy to just see the door hitting you on the way out. You had three years to come to an agreement and failed although your negotiators knew exactly what is written in the EU statutes (they - including Farage - and other UK elected officials wrote them themselves to a good part).

By the way, EUR1.3 Trillion in capital is moving from London to Frankfurt. Good luck replacing that!
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shadow123 said:
Love him or hate him, Boris is actually doing something after years of May fannying around,probably end in disaster but
I think hes got the EU, s attention.
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With what exactly? :rolleyes:

The main issue is the backstop to which Boris has not shown any viable alternatives until now.

You do realize that Boris has played the entire UK? He could have taken May's spot in the first place but he knew very well that the negotiations were doomed to fail (backstop issue) and waited for the right moment to present himself as the saviour of the UK. It is all a political game to him.
 
"Brexit: What is the Irish border backstop?" (bbc)

The backstop is a position of last resort, to maintain a seamless border on the island of Ireland. [the uk has stated it has no intention of making changes to the current border arrangements, so it can only be the eu and the republic planning to enforce border checks otherwise there is no issue or threat to the seamless border]

It would involve the UK retaining a very close relationship with the EU for an indefinite period.

It will apply if the UK and EU have not agreed a final deal at the end of a standstill transition period or if that final deal does not guarantee a soft border.

[one has to ask, what would be the likelihood of this if the eu and uk remainer civil service can see the prize of a backstop around the corner where the uk would be tied to the eu indefinitely]

....attorney general Geoffrey Cox, concluded that "the legal risk remains unchanged" that if a post-Brexit trade agreement cannot be reached due to genuinely "intractable differences", the UK would have "no internationally lawful means" of leaving the backstop without EU agreement.


Who in their right mind would agree to such terms, prior to trade deal negotiations, that gave you no legal right to exit and locked you in to an arrangement which took away sovereignty :confused:

The EU is using the troubles in N.Ireland and the sensitive issue of the border for political gain, keeping their federalist project going. And it's likely remainers in the higher echelons of the british civil service assisted the EU to come up with this machiavellian plan. All it needed was labour's approval, I can only think it was the lack of a 'free movement of people' clause that meant they chose not to back it.

The EU won't even compromise to set a time limit on a backstop; let's just get out on the 31st and live with tariffs, that's how we trade with most of the rest of the world anyway. The big german and french brands will suffer and I'm sure they won't be happy about that. There is plenty of anti EU sentiment in europe, likely to grow when the EU's mask slips a bit more.
 
I agree with Harry in that this is part of a political game for Boris, I think its a win win for him.
If it’s no deal and goes tits up he will say the EU wouldn’t negotiate, if it’s blocked by l parliament he will say his hands are tied and will probably call an election. I think his manifesto will mainly be focused on leaving the EU and that’s going to appeal to a lot of voters who have just had too much of the will they won’t they for the last 3 years. I think that JC and the Lib Dem’s may be in for a surprise if it goes to an election.....
 

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