Brexit - whats the difference.....

I'm coming to London next week for ICE and the Meister Meet.
Is anything really changing for us "normal" people before Dec 31st when the transition period is over?
No, not until next year.
 
Is anything really changing for us "normal" people before Dec 31st when the transition period is over?

No not really, you won't notice much of anything to day-to-day, but behind the scenes the slow drain of businesses, headquarters, investments and suchlike will continue away from the UK and into other European countries.

The date to look out for is 1st January 2021, when we face another potential No-Deal cliff edge, if a deal can't be done between now and the end of the year.
 
Something of a sobering read.

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I'm still waiting for someone, anyone, to tell me what Brexit is actually going to make better.

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For in telling businesses so clearly that they have less than a year to prepare for a scenario that is still unknown but which looks to be deeply problematic for them, and which they have repeatedly and explicitly warned against, Javid has sent a message as clear in its own way as
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. For businesses that export, have international supply chains, or which supply such firms, the message to those that can do so is to use the transition period to relocate. For others, perhaps especially SMEs, for whom relocation may not be an option, it may simply mean closing down. The costs and complexities just of new customs procedures, let alone those of future but unspecified regulatory changes, may simply be overwhelming.


But, as suggested
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, we seem now have reached a point where all costs are irrelevant and all that matters is the bright, shining light of Brexiter purity. Which may be a fine and splendid thing to some, but you can’t eat it and it doesn’t pay the bills.
 
Something of a sobering read.

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I'm still waiting for someone, anyone, to tell me what Brexit is actually going to make better.

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Well yes it's always going to be a 'sobering read' if you rely on heavily skewed articles from a remainer. We've been hearing the same bullshit scare stories for years.

If you want 10 reasons for us to be out of the EU, have a look at Dominic Frisby's video where he states his love for the Europeans but not the EU. That should give you a little bit of insight that you're clearly lacking.
 
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Further to Chopley's post, I'll just add that leavers have offered up plenty of reasons to leave the EU, it's just they're dismissed out of hand by remainers. You cannot reason with a brick wall.
 
If free trade with the EU has this balance of trade result below, I'm sure there is every chance a fair deal can be struck to continue tariff free and smooth trade:

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We in Sweden are tired of the negative trade balance with the UK. They are just using us and taking our money. THIS HAS TO STOP!
#MSGA (Make Sweden Great Again)
 
Terrorist? Don't be a dick.
Got her confused with Martina Anderson, the terrorist MEP. Mairead McGuinness is not a terrorist.
 
Diane Abbott you are fooling no one with that mask.

Talking of Brexit i-tunes top 2 at the moment are the following

PosArtist and Title2.95.78.311.214.8
1André Rieu & Johann Strauss Orchestra - Ode to Joy (Final Movement from Symphony No.9, Op.125 / Live)1.00001.00001.00001.00001.0000
2Dominic Frisby - 17 Million F**k-Offs (2020 Update)0.65530.59190.46420.46460.5264

1 Is the official anthem of the EU and is part of a campaign by remainers to get the song into the top 40 on Friday to show the EU we love them,
2 Well go to Youtube to see what that is.
Official Chart Update today Ode To Joy No.22, 17 Million No.38.

So the remainers can claim a victory though they probably go and claim this should mean a 2nd referendum.
 
Christ I'm glad Farage had his mic turned off, I'm amazed they put up with him as long as they did.

Our European friends have shown us nothing but warmth and treated us with endless dignity, and that's what they get in return, the loathsome prick Farage waving his pathetic little flag.

I guess if we're looking for a plus point in all of this, at least the folks there won't have to put up with him anymore. (Not that he ever really showed up to do anything anyway, but of course took his full salary throughout and will take his pension too.)

Every time I see some desperate horseshit like that I feel far more European than I do British.
 
Christ I'm glad Farage had his mic turned off, I'm amazed they put up with him as long as they did.

Our European friends have shown us nothing but warmth and treated us with endless dignity, and that's what they get in return, the loathsome prick Farage waving his pathetic little flag.

I guess if we're looking for a plus point in all of this, at least the folks there won't have to put up with him anymore. (Not that he ever really showed up to do anything anyway, but of course took his full salary throughout and will take his pension too.)

Every time I see some desperate horseshit like that I feel far more European than I do British.

Common decency is no more. :(

Looking forward drinking 10 Guinness and then talk politics at the Meister Meet next week :cheers::lolup:
 
Christ I'm glad Farage had his mic turned off, I'm amazed they put up with him as long as they did.

Our European friends have shown us nothing but warmth and treated us with endless dignity, and that's what they get in return, the loathsome prick Farage waving his pathetic little flag.

I guess if we're looking for a plus point in all of this, at least the folks there won't have to put up with him anymore. (Not that he ever really showed up to do anything anyway, but of course took his full salary throughout and will take his pension too.)

Every time I see some desperate horseshit like that I feel far more European than I do British.
The British flag is not pathetic never will be show some respect to the flag of the country, if you don't want to be British you can give it up.

Farage and the brexiters showed Europe who is superior today and they didn't like it.
 
The British flag is not pathetic never will be show some respect to the flag of the country, if you don't want to be British you can give it up.

Farage and the brexiters showed Europe who is superior today and they didn't like it.

Oh please :rolleyes:
 
He certainly did after the embarrassment of the Auld Lang Syne and the crocodile tears he was very impressive.

Farage showed us what we all knew already. That he's a little man with no class or substance. An empty shell exiting true to his nature. Pathetic beyond words.

You found that glorious and a show of superiority?

Don't get me wrong. I'm glad Britain got what they wanted. Now you're going to be free. But like Rousseau has famously said: "People were free only on election day". Enjoy :thumbsup:
 
Farage showed us what we all knew already. That he's a little man with no class or substance. An empty shell exiting true to his nature. Pathetic beyond words.

You found that glorious and a show of superiority?

Don't get me wrong. I'm glad Britain got what they wanted. Now you're going to be free. But like Rousseau has famously said: "People were free only on election day". Enjoy :thumbsup:
I certainly didn't find the vomit inducing auld lang syne nonsense glorious and proved the reason was justified to leave, they EU are an embarrassing shambles and good riddance to them.
 
I certainly didn't find the vomit inducing auld lang syne nonsense glorious and proved the reason was justified to leave, they EU are an embarrassing shambles and good riddance to them.

stick to your favourite dailyfail newspaper mate - I’m sure you will be alright !:thumbsup:
 
I certainly didn't find the vomit inducing auld lang syne nonsense glorious and proved the reason was justified to leave, they EU are an embarrassing shambles and good riddance to them.

What I find ridiculous is the on-going ramblings about the evil EU/EUSSR crap and the Union Jack flag waving nonsense like it's something to be proud of. We all know the end result of populism. And this is the aspect I despise about the Brexit. Not the Brexit itself.
 
What I find ridiculous is the on-going ramblings about the evil EU/EUSSR crap and the Union Jack flag waving nonsense like it's something to be proud of. We all know the end result of populism. And this is the aspect I despise about the Brexit. Not the Brexit itself.
There is nothing wrong with waving a damn flag of the country you live in why are the British so ashamed to celebrate their country most other countries in the world love flag waving and being proud of their country.
 
There is nothing wrong with waving a damn flag of the country you live in why are the British so ashamed to celebrate their country most other countries in the world love flag waving and being proud of their country.

There is not, I agree.

But when it's used in a way trying to show superiority (your words), it becomes something else than being proud of your country.
 
Farage showed us what we all knew already. That he's a little man with no class or substance. An empty shell exiting true to his nature. Pathetic beyond words.

You found that glorious and a show of superiority?

Don't get me wrong. I'm glad Britain got what they wanted. Now you're going to be free. But like Rousseau has famously said: "People were free only on election day". Enjoy :thumbsup:
*Brexiting true to his nature
 
There is nothing wrong with waving a damn flag of the country you live in why are the British so ashamed to celebrate their country most other countries in the world love flag waving and being proud of their country.

They waved the flag in the EU parlament!!
This is like standing in the stands of the home team at Etihad Stadium waving the ManUtd flag. Its just a stupid and totally unnecessary provokation.
 
They waved the flag in the EU parlament!!
This is like standing in the stands of the home team at Etihad Stadium waving the ManUtd flag. Its just a stupid and totally unnecessary provokation.
What a load of tripe the eu is supposed to be 27 countries so of course they can endorse their country since when did the eu suddenly become superior to any of the 27 countries?
 
Farage's final speech in EUSSR 'parliament' today!

Silenced temporarily by the terrorist Mairead for waving Union jack



People can say what they like about Farage but over the years he has promoted a political earthquake. He had one aim, one goal and he never stopped until he got it. He followed through, unlike some of the other flimsy, fair weather politicians we see.

I don't dislike the guy at all, I actually think he commands a fair amount of respect.
 
The reality is that Boris has a massive majority and he's going to do exactly what the fuck he wants for the next five years.

The plus side of this is that Brexit will be owned by him and his party, no 'Remainer Parliament' to blame or 'MSM bias' or any of that stuff.

As such we'll see it all pan out over the next five years, and he and the Brexiteers will own it.


(There was a report on Bloomberg yesterday that the total predicted cost to the UK economy of Brexit will exceed all of the UK's contributions to the EU. Ever.)

But yep, Remain lost, Labour lost (badly), Brexit will happen and Boris and the Tories will own it. Let's see what happens.

As long as I've got wine, videogames (especially Hearthstone), fruit machine emulation, slots, access to fanny, and Netflix - I'll cope.

They won't own it, they'll still blame everyone but themselves if the final deal is far from optimal. Just have a look at Trump, he owns it when the stock market goes up or job numbers are great and that's absolutely fine but when something goes wrong it's Obama's, Hillary's and CNN's fault.
 
Also, I've just read a bit more of the thread...what on earth is wrong with waving your country's flag :what: :what: :confused::confused:

When the hell did people become so sensitive and snowflakey??

I'm proud to be British and in my book there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with waving a flag to show this...I mean, come on now.
 
No one's said there's anything wrong with flag-waving and showing patriotism? The issue is how those berks made Brits look like a bunch of nationalist saddos relieving past glories, and served no purpose other than to antagonize.

It's not the Eurovision Song Contest
 

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