Brexit - whats the difference.....

I only appear intelligent for the benefit of this forum. Fact is, just the other day I put my trousers on the wrong way and stared at a bottle of orange squash for 4 hours straight because it said 'concentrate' on the label.
I proudly told my school mates when about 7 years old that I was famous as my name was on all the bread wrappers in the shops.
I was brought down to earth when my mum told me one day, "No, you daft twat, it says 'Thick CUT'! "
 
ive decided to put an end to this nonsense once and for all , leaver , remainer makes no difference here's the whats gonna happen, here it comes,

If we leave with a deal,
the world will keep turning, we wont starve ,the lights wont go out, and every politician from every party will still be a self serving money grabbing troll
If we leave without a deal
the world will keep turning, we wont starve ,the lights wont go out, and every politician from every party will still be a self serving money grabbing troll
phew my brain power is exhausted now time to rest
 
the world may keep turning

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But that's unlikely for a few million liberals.
 
Boris Johnson seeking that Dec. 12 snap election

(Thought I'd use The Sun's link to it, to further confirm my procariat status and nail those colours firmly to the mast. Highbrow persons, please look away now)

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Also: Labour MPs aghast at projected hostility by perma-trolled voters after 3.5 years' Brexit sabotage
 
British Poultry Council tells a pack of lies about Brexit-related labour shortage this year because they like making shit up for a laugh.

National Farmers Union also making up a load of crap about Brexit-related labour shortages too, causing tonnes of crops to rot in fields.

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You think you'll be better off in the long-term then?
Dunno, as I don't have a crystal ball. Unless you happen to be a soothsayer?

What I do know however is that irrespective of what I think, our politicians have a duty to honour the result of the Referendum and stop sabotaging its progress
 
Dunno, as I don't have a crystal ball. Unless you happen to be a soothsayer?

What I do know however is that irrespective of what I think, our politicians have a duty to honour the result of the Referendum and stop sabotaging its progress

So you know that you're going to be worse off in the short-term...and no clue if things improve in the long-term. So yeah let's take that one! Sounds perfect!
 
Hands up who actually believed we'd be better off in the short-term immediately after leaving the EU

That's exactly what Leaving was pitched as.

Britain holds all the cards, easiest trade deal in history, strike out into new markets, they need us more than we need them, everything gets better for everyone etc

This revisionism that's taking place now along the lines of 'Oh well we knew there'd be all kinds of difficulties and we were actually voting to make ourselves and the country poorer because of SOVEREIGNTY' is nonsense.
 
So you know that you're going to be worse off in the short-term...and no clue if things improve in the long-term. So yeah let's take that one! Sounds perfect!

Exactly, very few people would have voted for that.

Sheesh, can you imagine if Johnson's 'deal' was on the ballot paper as the Leave option.....
 
So you know that you're going to be worse off in the short-term...and no clue if things improve in the long-term. So yeah let's take that one! Sounds perfect!
Well, you're quite clearly in favour of politicians reneging on their democratic promise to their voters, then that says a lot about your wonky values
 
That's exactly what Leaving was pitched as.

Britain holds all the cards, easiest trade deal in history, strike out into new markets, they need us more than we need them, everything gets better for everyone etc

This revisionism that's taking place now along the lines of 'Oh well we knew there'd be all kinds of difficulties and we were actually voting to make ourselves and the country poorer because of SOVEREIGNTY' is nonsense.
It could well be the worst thing to happen to the UK for a 'rather long time', and much more has come to light since the Referendum shall we say, but the trump card is and always will be 'teh demokrassy', because not honouring the result has far greater long-term damaging effects, i.e losing the voter/ politician trust.

We can dismantle and undo the waste-laden aftermath of Brexit after it's followed through no doubt. That is, assuming we still exist as a country
 
Well, you're quite clearly in favour of politicians reneging on their democratic promise to their voters, then that says a lot about your wonky values

No I'm not but if politicians or people make stupid decisions that clearly isn't in their favor...I expect them to learn from it and reverse the course. I'm pretty sure there are many decisions that politicians have made that have been reversed in a hurry. But if you like to be stubborn then suit yourself.

And it's not like you'll trust the politicians no matter what happens in the Brexit.
 
No I'm not but if politicians or people make stupid decisions that clearly isn't in their favor...I expect them to learn from it and reverse the course. I'm pretty sure there are many decisions that politicians have made that have been reversed in a hurry. But if you like to be stubborn then suit yourself.
Hmmm, not sure how things work in Finland, but here we expect politicians to honour their pledge, especially after consistently saying they would prior to the Referendum!

they've done more U-turns than Pacman
 
Hmmm, not sure how things work in Finland, but here we expect politicians to honour their pledge, especially after consistently saying they would prior to the Referendum!

they've done more U-turns than Pacman

Here we expect the politicians to break their promises :P We have a saying for one of the parties too: "Kepu pettää aina". Meaning something like "The Centern party betrays always". Maybe that's why we keep constantly changing who has the power...seems to work well enough!
 
British Poultry Council tells a pack of lies about Brexit-related labour shortage this year because they like making shit up for a laugh.

National Farmers Union also making up a load of crap about Brexit-related labour shortages too, causing tonnes of crops to rot in fields.

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Ah, from that flagship paragon of neutrality, the Gradinua. Actually, they have already been flying in Ukrainian students for temporary contracts (outside EU and not affected by Sterling's fall against the Bluro by the way). The fault for this in the main is our policy of not making able-bodied doleites go and do the work.

I am not sure how we'd survive Christmas without pigs-in-blankets. OH! hang on, I could buy a tray of mini-sausages (made in a factory mechanically) and a pack of streaky bacon and then make our own, like we did last year, the year before etc. No EU labour necessary.

I really would be begging to re-join Shaky's Euro super state though if we couldn't get enough labour in to pack those miniature packs of cards into the supermarket crackers. That would be doom for us all.

In fact, I am actually puzzled about my own existence, as technically I should have starved to death years ago before EU began its interference in earnest back in the 1980's. Would Geldof do a Band Aid II for us in 6 months when famine sets in in the UK? Is Boris already tapping him up? Can I ask some of you nice EU residents to send me a bag of Haribo bears nearer the time?
 
I am not sure how we'd survive Christmas without pigs-in-blankets. OH! hang on, I could buy a tray of mini-sausages (made in a factory mechanically) and a pack of streaky bacon and then make our own, like we did last year, the year before etc. No EU labour necessary.

I've heard your complaining about this with alot of profanity in your slotting videos. I'm pretty sure you need the EU labour :p
 
Ah, from that flagship paragon of neutrality, the Gradinua. Actually, they have already been flying in Ukrainian students for temporary contracts (outside EU and not affected by Sterling's fall against the Bluro by the way). The fault for this in the main is our policy of not making able-bodied doleites go and do the work.

I am not sure how we'd survive Christmas without pigs-in-blankets. OH! hang on, I could buy a tray of mini-sausages (made in a factory mechanically) and a pack of streaky bacon and then make our own, like we did last year, the year before etc. No EU labour necessary.

I really would be begging to re-join Shaky's Euro super state though if we couldn't get enough labour in to pack those miniature packs of cards into the supermarket crackers. That would be doom for us all.

In fact, I am actually puzzled about my own existence, as technically I should have starved to death years ago before EU began its interference in earnest back in the 1980's. Would Geldof do a Band Aid II for us in 6 months when famine sets in in the UK? Is Boris already tapping him up? Can I ask some of you nice EU residents to send me a bag of Haribo bears nearer the time?

Your flippancy underlines the real problem with where Brexit's at now, there's literally nothing left that anyone can point to and say 'This will get better', now we're at 'Let's force unemployed people to be slaves, and make our own pigs in blankets like we did after war, go UK!'

There's nothing left, it's a busted flush, if Brexit were a slot it'd be one of those pirated NetEnt knock off jobs that pays out at 65% RTP run by shady scam artist casinos.
 
Your flippancy underlines the real problem with where Brexit's at now, there's literally nothing left that anyone can point to and say 'This will get better', now we're at 'Let's force unemployed people to be slaves, and make our own pigs in blankets like we did after war, go UK!'

There's nothing left, it's a busted flush, if Brexit were a slot it'd be one of those pirated NetEnt knock off jobs that pays out at 65% RTP run by shady scam artist casinos.

The trivia the remoaners trot out is akin to having a national scandal when the blue Smarties went missing from the tubes. We just got on with things and happily ate the replacement brown Smarties instead. Nobody suffered, nobody died.

It's got nothing to do with 'after the war' as it's completely f*cking unnecessary to have pre-packed pigs-in-blankets, same as how I traumatized the poor kids by not buying bottled water packs and adding to plastic waste - I invested in a nice Filter Water jug and got reusable water bottles. True, the psychological effects were severe at first, them having to top the jug up from the tap, put it back in the fridge and fill their own bottles but with care and counselling they came through.

So 8-10 quid an hour is slavery? Is that how you see those poor agricultural workers we imported - slaves? Did the UK farmers chain them together and beat them? Were they not paid?
 
Your flippancy underlines the real problem with where Brexit's at now, there's literally nothing left that anyone can point to and say 'This will get better', now we're at 'Let's force unemployed people to be slaves, and make our own pigs in blankets like we did after war, go UK!'

There's nothing left, it's a busted flush, if Brexit were a slot it'd be one of those pirated NetEnt knock off jobs that pays out at 65% RTP run by shady scam artist casinos.
BINGO!!!
I have got a full house on my remainer card thanks to Chopley
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Hands up who actually believed we'd be better off in the short-term immediately after leaving the EU

Who knows? But as someone looking things outside the UK, I wish you'd get it done. One way or another. Whatever the final outcome may be, I do wish you're happy with your choice in the end. The UK is a great country (it says so in the name), so I'm pretty sure you'll manage after you've gone your merry way from the European club.

In a larger scale, the UK leaving might not be that dramatic for the rest of us (EU) after all.

But I do have to thank the British for supplying the rest of us with a show that could only come from Britain. Along with Trump's ongoing reality show, the Brexit has been a classic such as Fawlty Towers & The Fast Show. :thumbsup:

Edit: typo due to intoxication :drink:
 
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one off radio show

Can you imagine the right-on happy-clappy view this would have of the EU....

I'm sure leavers would be portrayed (as with anybody considered to be to the right of Stalin by the anti-BBC) as knuckle draggers, skinheads, racists, white-only, uneducated and on benefits.
 
So who pays for the adverts the Gov have been blasting us with for weeks saying we will be leaving on 31st Oct
and telling businesses they need to prepare, must have cost millions all down the drain, given up totally on the twats.
Only good thing is that the coming election should wipe out the Labour shower of shit and give a dose of reality
all the candidates who went against their constituents referendum votes
 
So who pays for the adverts the Gov have been blasting us with for weeks saying we will be leaving on 31st Oct
and telling businesses they need to prepare, must have cost millions all down the drain, given up totally on the twats.
Only good thing is that the coming election should wipe out the Labour shower of shit and give a dose of reality
all the candidates who went against their constituents referendum votes

If the opposition hadn't frustrated the process yet again, we would have been out. I just hope the electorate realise this and don't turn on Boris at the polls. The last thing we need is the leave vote split.
 
Turns out no one was really that bothered about the EU after all. Marc Francois said that 'the UK will explode' if we don't leave on the 31st October.

Countdown time chaps, three days to Doomsday!

Honestly, prior to 2016, how many people, if you asked them what needed fixing in the UK, said something like 'Ahhh well what I'm most concerned about is the EU parliament passing legislation that may in certain circumstances override what our own UK parliament wishes to do. Oh yes and the EU Army I've just made up, that's keeping me awake at night too.'

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Even the Lib Dems and Snp voting for the election, Ira and Hezbollah main man Corbyn and Labour running scared as the main remain party they were from day 1, total liars...time FOR LABOUR TO BE DESTROYED AND WIPED OUT
 
Dunno, as I don't have a crystal ball. Unless you happen to be a soothsayer?

What I do know however is that irrespective of what I think, our politicians have a duty to honour the result of the Referendum and stop sabotaging its progress

not true. Politicians have to put what is in the best interests of their constituents first. What they often do is put what they think will keep them in their seat first. Not the same thing.
 
not true. Politicians have to put what is in the best interests of their constituents first. What they often do is put what they think will keep them in their seat first. Not the same thing.
Not the same thing? Even when those constituents have made a 70-30 decision in favour of leave?
 
not true. Politicians have to put what is in the best interests of their constituents first. What they often do is put what they think will keep them in their seat first. Not the same thing.
As they clearly can't cater to every individual constituent's whim and personal needs is why a generalized vote was the only practical solution. Better put, however technical one wants to fish for wordplay, it's MPs' responsibilty to honour their (overall) wish.

But as you say, they are and always will be self-serving
 
No. Because if they know supporting the leave vote will make their constituents worse off, they are not voting in their interests.

They don't 'know' anything, it's all conjecture and project fear. Like they didn't 'know' what would happen if the referendum was a leave decision. But naturally they told us with straight faces they did know. Amazing how all the UK's clairvoyants are remainers. Last time I give Gypsy Rose £5 at the fair.
 
But surely both Labour and Conservative stood on a manifesto to uphold the referendum result, and they were elected based on that manifesto so how come they havent honoured their constituents wishes?

because facts change.

We elected this parliament to serve for a fixed five years. And the last parliament. Both have been/will be ended early because the Tories don’t like the results they’re getting.

it’s how democracy works. It’s not a one-off event. It’s fluid.
 
because facts change.

We elected this parliament to serve for a fixed five years. And the last parliament. Both have been/will be ended early because the Tories don’t like the results they’re getting.

it’s how democracy works. It’s not a one-off event. It’s fluid.
'facts' lol. You mean the unproven speculation that changes each day. We elected this Parliament to serve a MAXIMUM of 5 years. Doesn't democracy decree that the people to choose a new Parliament if the government can't govern? Oh, I see! The opposition, despite losing the last election, are opportunistically denying us an election now they have some combined power, power that would surely be removed from them if we had a democratic election to change things. There you go. Catch-22. Impasse. Stalemate. Stagnation. Corbyn.
 
Has Boris dug out or found the ditch he wants to die in?
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Funny how you can all slander politicians that they don't do their work or execute the result of a referendum or keep their promises etc etc. Will you demand that Boris keeps his promise in the same way you demand it from others? And if he says no, will you slander him the same way you did with others? :rolleyes:

I guess we all know the answer. You'll come up with all sorts of excuses. :rolleyes:
 
@Harry_BKK

Do you really beleive the majority who wanted to leave the EU realistically trusted in May? Or was she perhaps, as what seems so repetative in my eyes, just the lamer/leader who was provided for those who wanted to leave :p
I know I for sure as shit I didn't trust or like her from the day she stepped into number ten. Same goes for Boris. But then I've never once looked at a PM here in the UK and thought hmm, he/she seems like a genuine person.
A gutt feeling always told me they were all untrustworthy scumbags. Every. Single. One. (And feeling has occured since before i begun to grow pubes, before i had a ckue what politics was about, hence i never became interested in this whole shit show).

And so, It literally wasn't even until Trump got elected I even read one thing in regards to politics. I just followed my gutt from when I was a child, and believed it was a waste of time - because all I could see everytime the TV had one of these people on was a bunch of untrustworthy (possibly selected, rather than elected) goons .

So, for me personally, I feel that question is both pointless and irrelevant.. I mean, if such a question were put to the people who voted for your favourite guy years ago, Trump ( :p) , who voted on the soul basis that they disliked the status quo and felt he was the only available option to change it, despite not having great optimism. What would you expect them to answer that question with?

He was the only available option put forward as a possible answer for many who were wanting a change, gifted by the corrupt system of which so many people are tiresomely divided and arguing over. And millions of Americans who voted for him have since cast him into the toilet with the rest of the lying traitorous puppets, many literally thinking it's all just a show and the whole left/right are just 2 sides of the same coin, etc.

I will - and i expect to do so lol...call Boris every name you've heard of, and some I can guarantee of which you have not.. when he inevitably screws us over ;p

Oh, but why do you want out of the EU... if you can't trust your own politicians? (One might ask, though I'm sure someone said something like this in this thread before too :rolleyes:)

But what can I do other than roll my own eyes at the idea that whatever prick that is assigned to carry out what I would like to see happen, is the prick I am supposed to put my faith into. lol.

So I would like to say that last sentance is one mighty bold assumption in that post Harry. Not everyone takes a side of this corrupt shit show they call politics and then defends the tard of the week to the death ;)
 
The majority in Parliament is ensuring the minority government is not getting away unchecked with things the majority don’t want. Democracy.

That's the wrong kind of parliament taking back control!
 
Has Boris dug out or found the ditch he wants to die in? View attachment 116179

Funny how you can all slander politicians that they don't do their work or execute the result of a referendum or keep their promises etc etc. Will you demand that Boris keeps his promise in the same way you demand it from others? And if he says no, will you slander him the same way you did with others? :rolleyes:

I guess we all know the answer. You'll come up with all sorts of excuses. :rolleyes:
Oh no we can't have an election in December it will be dark and those poor students will be out getting drunk for Christmas and the elderly don't go out in the winter... If Jeremy Corbyn has ever looked more stupid than he did declaring it will be dark then I would like to see it.

The Labour party have alienated the voters like never before and they will suffer for their antics over the last few weeks saying it is too dark for an election will go down in political folklore.
 
@Harry_BKK

Do you really beleive the majority who wanted to leave the EU realistically trusted in May? Or was she perhaps, as what seems so repetative in my eyes, just the lamer/leader who was provided for those who wanted to leave :p
I know I for sure as shit I didn't trust or like her from the day she stepped into number ten. Same goes for Boris. But then I've never once looked at a PM here in the UK and thought hmm, he/she seems like a genuine person.
A gutt feeling always told me they were all untrustworthy scumbags. Every. Single. One. (And feeling has occured since before i begun to grow pubes, before i had a ckue what politics was about, hence i never became interested in this whole shit show).

And so, It literally wasn't even until Trump got elected I even read one thing in regards to politics. I just followed my gutt from when I was a child, and believed it was a waste of time - because all I could see everytime the TV had one of these people on was a bunch of untrustworthy (possibly selected, rather than elected) goons .

So, for me personally, I feel that question is both pointless and irrelevant.. I mean, if such a question were put to the people who voted for your favourite guy years ago, Trump ( :p) , who voted on the soul basis that they disliked the status quo and felt he was the only available option to change it, despite not having great optimism. What would you expect them to answer that question with?

He was the only available option put forward as a possible answer for many who were wanting a change, gifted by the corrupt system of which so many people are tiresomely divided and arguing over. And millions of Americans who voted for him have since cast him into the toilet with the rest of the lying traitorous puppets, many literally thinking it's all just a show and the whole left/right are just 2 sides of the same coin, etc.

I will - and i expect to do so lol...call Boris every name you've heard of, and some I can guarantee of which you have not.. when he inevitably screws us over ;p

Oh, but why do you want out of the EU... if you can't trust your own politicians? (One might ask, though I'm sure someone said something like this in this thread before too :rolleyes:)

But what can I do other than roll my own eyes at the idea that whatever prick that is assigned to carry out what I would like to see happen, is the prick I am supposed to put my faith into. lol.

So I would like to say that last sentance is one mighty bold assumption in that post Harry. Not everyone takes a side of this corrupt shit show they call politics and then defends the tard of the week to the death ;)

I recall a few years ago political satirists joking saying "imagine Trump and BJ were in power at the same time". Miraculously it has come true. Yesterday we have Trump posting a picture of a dog "That caught and killed the ISIS leader". BJ is just subservient to his banking masters. Wouldn't surprise me if this was all part of some shorting scheme on Sterling.
 

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