Bovado??

[Dipity]

Are you sure you're not getting confused - some of the 3d machines require the bonus symbols to land on a payline, and I know I was confused since some of those slots have super weird paylines...

 

[weplant]

Have either of you got any screenshots showing this?
Would be very interesting for the rest of us to have a look at. Can you post some shots pretty please?
Failing that - can you name the slots you are talking about here?

KK

I am going to try and attach a screenshot I took..The 3 gold discs should give you the 'click me feature'. I hit it in that position earlier and the feature started..I had a couple of games that did not seem to trigger the bonus, but this is the only one I took a shot of...It only seems to be on the new 3d games..I know for the bonus round things have to line up just right, but I beleive on the cllick me feature it said 3 shields anywhere..I could be wrong..However,it was triggered like that earlier... any feedback would be great..thanks

 

[bobdeer4]

Bovado no way ever again

One thing I want to warn other players about concerning Bovada casino....If you're lucky enough to cashout (I had a very good session there before and won quite a bit), try not to deposit there in the future. Personally, I've made about 12 deposits for smaller amounts after cashing out and have never been able to win again. I know alot of people complain about this sort of thing online, but it somehow does happen.

I'll be closing casino account tomorrow as I am not about to give them back the winnings. When you use one of their bonuses, the play seems pretty good until you're approaching the playthrough requirement. It happened again tonight. I was doing well and then everything started losing. I had $55 left on playthrough and couldn't even make it. I've seen this pattern happen over and over again at Bovada. When I deposit with no bonus, the money goes very quickly. That's the last straw for me, so just a heads up to everyone. Don't go back there if you win...if you do and win again then good for you. It's just been really bad for me.

Hi i am new here and would like to share my frustration with Bovado. I was a winning player on UB, then it went away. I deposited about 1k and cashed 10k over a year and one half.Then i went to Bodog. I deposited about 500 and withdrew 11k. I hit two random jackpots for 5k and the rest was tournament poker winnings. Since Bovado has taken over i am suddenly a losing player---NO MATTER what. I have deposited over and over and over. One nite i was in the casino playing honey to the bee. On a non winning spin, I won 46 dollars. The random jackpot was 4600. As soon as this happened---a message came on the screen that said RANDOM JACKPOT ERROR. I tried unsuccessfully for two hours to get back in to the game. The next day i sent them an email explaining what had happened. They told me I should have taken a picture of it---there is no way they can tell what happened??? HA i believe they can see everything that occurs right or wrong? Since then i have given 2k to the site like a dork---thinking its bad luck. It is not i have several friends who were also consistent poker winners---since bovado ONE OF five friends had one cash out for 500 bucks. Now he can win nothing. This thread mentions the bonuses you must play to meet a quota. I recieved one of those bonuses---to get 50 dollars i had to play thru 2k in the casino. I did this over a period of several days. Right when i got to about 100 dollars till i recieved my bonus--it drained my account right down IMMEDIATELY. I hate to say its fixed but NO MATTER what ---NO matter how you play POKER or casino---you cannot win. I just had a nine dollar bonus from them. It spun off the casino 40 cents at a time. I should have known better when a representative told me i should have taken a pic of the random jackpot error----what a true joke. Save your cash--go to a real casino and get in cash games--or take your chances on the real slots. Dont waste your hard earned money there.

 

[EdieD]

i reopened account one last time and made a deposit about 3 weeks ago. Same story, terrible play and lost deposit. Called them up and closed accout again. I won't play there again. I believe they change account settings or do something after you make a big profit from them.

I don't deposit anywhere now. I'll just wait until the U.S. regulates online gaming sometime in the future. Other than that, I have no interest in playing at unregulated casinos where you have no idea if they manipulate the software. I just don't believe that in a random game, you can lose 25 times or so after you make a nice size withdrawl. That's just me, but I won't test the waters again at Bovado casino.

 

[Nifty29]

i reopened account one last time and made a deposit about 3 weeks ago. Same story, terrible play and lost deposit. Called them up and closed accout again. I won't play there again. I believe they change account settings or do something after you make a big profit from them.

I don't deposit anywhere now. I'll just wait until the U.S. regulates online gaming sometime in the future. Other than that, I have no interest in playing at unregulated casinos where you have no idea if they manipulate the software. I just don't believe that in a random game, you can lose 25 times or so after you make a nice size withdrawl. That's just me, but I won't test the waters again at Bovado casino.

It's called gambling.

In a random game, ANYTHING can happen and probably will. You could lose 50 times after a big cashout. It doesn't mean the software is crooked.

Mind you, you're the one who deposited again, even after "knowing" they are "cheating'. What that really says is that you don't even believe it yourself.

People who insist that casinos have special systems to make sure you don't win xx times or that control your personal RTP at the flick of a switch are simply ignorant of the facts regarding RTP, variance, etc....and usually have no idea about bankroll management.

I just wonder why US players think they have to play at these places....there are plenty of other choices.

 

[EdieD]

U.S. players don't have to play at these places. That's why I said I don't play any online casinos anymore. NJ will most likely be the first state to regulate online gaming. Other states will follow. Once this gets started, there would be no reason to play at places like Bovado or anywhere else that's not regulated. All U.S. players take a chance right now with casinos based in Costa Rica, etc. They won't have to in the future. For me, I would never deposit offshore again if I could play at a reputable, regulated casino.

 

[dreamguardian1]

Bovada used to be really good, whenever i play there i pretty much count on losing money, never seen a casino where u have 200 spins of losses but thats how their new 3d ones are set up. Told them a few times they need fixed but they dont care long a sthey keep the customers spending. While the new 3d games are nice graphics, kinda not why we play them (cept for a few). Really limited my time with them when they used to be my top casino, now CWC is pulling ahead.

 

[dreamguardian1]

I am going to try and attach a screenshot I took..The 3 gold discs should give you the 'click me feature'. I hit it in that position earlier and the feature started..I had a couple of games that did not seem to trigger the bonus, but this is the only one I took a shot of...It only seems to be on the new 3d games..I know for the bonus round things have to line up just right, but I beleive on the cllick me feature it said 3 shields anywhere..I could be wrong..However,it was triggered like that earlier... any feedback would be great..thanks

Ya thats one of the ones i totally avoid, had same problem with them and yes they are lined up on a payline. Some of the games now also you to have 4 bonus boxes on a pay line rather than 3 (talk about house odds lol). I didnt save any of my screenshots from Bovado cause until they fix the 3d slots really not wort guaranteeing a total loss in 5 minutes.

 

[EdieD]

I saw them go downhill fast about a month before putting in the 3d slots. Those games are total losers in my opinion. I think they adjusted alot of things over there including total payout %, etc. This includes all of their newly created slots and previous RTG's. I agree they used to be good and games felt fair. They must be really hurting because they're trying alot of different things now to quickly drain the players account.

 

[Nifty29]

I saw them go downhill fast about a month before putting in the 3d slots. Those games are total losers in my opinion. I think they adjusted alot of things over there including total payout %, etc. This includes all of their newly created slots and previous RTG's. I agree they used to be good and games felt fair. They must be really hurting because they're trying alot of different things now to quickly drain the players account.

How do you know they changed the payout %? Do you keep a record of every bet in a spreadsheet? It's the only way you could really know, and it would only say something about your personal play and not the RTPs.

I assume, since you believe the slots been "tickled", that you now refuse to play there?

 

[bigjohn]

It's just luck

or lack thereof. For instance I can't seem to win anything on any RTG slots, it just doesn't happen for me. To me they seem rigged, I wouldn't deposit there, etc, etc. On the other hand I am having great luck at Bovada right now. And for those who question why we would play there when there are other options available it goes kinda like this: of fully accredited casinos we, in the US, basically have 3D (awesome casino, hard to deposit at right now, extremely trustworthy IMO) or a bunch of RTG casinos that don't seem to be interested in coming up with creative, entertaining new games. To me Bovada is a much needed break from the mundane and they are fully accredited here so why not play there, if you have a problem with them I am confident they will fix it satisfactorily or they wont be listed here for long. Not for nothing but a lot of people who post problems here or in other threads just seem angry that they lost.

 

[dreamguardian1]

YOu can tell Bovado is going downhill by the number of complaints submitted as well as the type of complaints. I have played many of their games across the board including 3-D. They have lowered their payout amounts, winning combinations(which have gotten very weird) as well as the amount of win per spin even when you bet a high amount. Example: 1.00 bet per spin if you get even three good ones on a line win u win .04ents to .12 cents, in order to get a good win you need multiple winning lines with multiple wilds in there. Then there is the issue of disconnects during winning spins and this is happening A LOT and Bovado is refusing to accept responsibility for these errors, huge threads going on right now in America the Beautiful on this.

 

[Shejm]

TY and I totally agree

Bovada used to be really good, whenever i play there i pretty much count on losing money, never seen a casino where u have 200 spins of losses but thats how their new 3d ones are set up. Told them a few times they need fixed but they dont care long a sthey keep the customers spending. While the new 3d games are nice graphics, kinda not why we play them (cept for a few). Really limited my time with them when they used to be my top casino, now CWC is pulling ahead.

Please tell me what casino is CWC/ And I totally agree with you about BOVADA..I have given them way to many chances and so sorry for doing that now. Again, and finally, I am finished with that crap of a casino......

 

[Shejm]

i reopened account one last time and made a deposit about 3 weeks ago. Same story, terrible play and lost deposit. Called them up and closed accout again. I won't play there again. I believe they change account settings or do something after you make a big profit from them.

I don't deposit anywhere now. I'll just wait until the U.S. regulates online gaming sometime in the future. Other than that, I have no interest in playing at unregulated casinos where you have no idea if they manipulate the software. I just don't believe that in a random game, you can lose 25 times or so after you make a nice size withdrawl. That's just me, but I won't test the waters again at Bovado casino.

The same exact thing happened to me. Won a nice jackpot last year and haven't seen anything in over 10 months now. I am truely sick of Bovada. I hate to admitt this but I deposit at least 3 times a week with 0 return....Finally see the light, No more Bovada for me!

 

[BMWSTACK]

Please tell me what casino is CWC/ And I totally agree with you about BOVADA..I have given them way to many chances and so sorry for doing that now. Again, and finally, I am finished with that crap of a casino......

Club World Casinos

 

[weplant]

The same exact thing happened to me. Won a nice jackpot last year and haven't seen anything in over 10 months now. I am truely sick of Bovada. I hate to admitt this but I deposit at least 3 times a week with 0 return....Finally see the light, No more Bovada for me!

Boy , do i hear you...I deposit at least 3 times a week them and have never had a payout...I am also unistallling...

 

[bpb]

The same exact thing happened to me. Won a nice jackpot last year and haven't seen anything in over 10 months now. I am truely sick of Bovada. I hate to admitt this but I deposit at least 3 times a week with 0 return....Finally see the light, No more Bovada for me!

I know how this story is going to end if you actually believe that your "luck" is going to change at another casino. But nothing anyone says will deter you, so at least try to enjoy yourself.

 

[dreamguardian1]

Most everyone here knows my opinion of Bovada so i wont beat a dead horse. That said each players experience are going to be unique.

 

[cappync]

I used to play at Bovada. It seemed like a good option since I am in the US, but I never seemed to have any luck there. Now I have switched to Buzzluck, Lucky Red (CWC) and Slotastic. I also really liked the look of the 3d slots- but when it comes down to it, if your not winning (at least occasionally) you're not going to have fun no matter how cool the slots look.

By the way, Buzzluck is a good one if your looking for a different take on the same old RTG games.

 

[EdieD]

They have a game there called cash money something which was great when it first came out. After a while, they took it down..guess it paid too much. Now it's back and I think they removed the bonus round entirely. When I was depositing there, I tried the game a few times and could tell it wasn't the same.

It's like what they did with crystal waters...tight as anything now. When these things happen in land based casinos, it's so obvious because the machines that were so popular now have empty seats in front of them.

 

[Nifty29]

They have a game there called cash money something which was great when it first came out. After a while, they took it down..guess it paid too much. Now it's back and I think they removed the bonus round entirely. When I was depositing there, I tried the game a few times and could tell it wasn't the same.

It's like what they did with crystal waters...tight as anything now. When these things happen in land based casinos, it's so obvious because the machines that were so popular now have empty seats in front of them.

You have proof that they "rigged" these slots? You should show us. After the Finsoft fiasco you could really get some attention and action.

Did you know that an operator doesn't necessarily need to "take a game down" to change the RTP? It can be done with a simple software update.

How do you know that crystal waters doesn't pay what it used to? If you have a spreadsheet with all your bets, which you must do, then post it so we can see.

The reason machines becomes less popular is because the newer ones are drawing players away. The older a machine gets, the less play it gets as a rule. It's why they remove machines after a while when the turnover is not high enough. Common sense really.

 

[EdieD]

Common sense is using your best judgement. When players don't play at machines anymore, regardless if they are old or new, it's because they are not paying. When restaurants have been in business for 6 months and you walk in at dinner time, if no one is in the restaurant that's a sign too. Common sense says something is not good here. I don't need a spreadsheet to tell me if a machine is paying or not, particularly over multiple efforts.

It's funny, but I've never seen anyone using excel in the casino other than maybe a business manager...but no players. They know when a machine doesn't pay and they don't play. That's common sense (or good sense). You can analyze your play and experience anyway you want as long as it's your money.

If I determine machines don't pay online or landbased over a period of time trying, it's my decision to continue playing or not. I can communicate this to a forum as my opinion, and not thesis based or excel analyzed. There are some things that you just feel. I am an analyst by profession and use Excel everyday at work. I don't need advanced formulas or programming to know the results in this situation.

 

[bpb]

There are some things that you just feel.

I feel like you aren't qualified to speak about payout percentages on slots.

Bovada is a solid outfit with an impeccable history of payouts. There's zero evidence that their games are anything but fair. Maligning them because you lost is irresponsible.

 

[X-Raided]

I feel like you aren't qualified to speak about payout percentages on slots.

Bovada is a solid outfit with an impeccable history of payouts. There's zero evidence that their games are anything but fair. Maligning them because you lost is irresponsible.

Wow, 6 thanks given over 9 years of membership. Are you competing with VWM?

Also, I agree to a certain extent with regards to your post, but don't you think you
may have come down a little to daunt on EdieD? He was just expressing his opinion.
He's entitled. He's a member of CM and a depositing player at Bovada.

 

[Nifty29]

Common sense is using your best judgement. When players don't play at machines anymore, regardless if they are old or new, it's because they are not paying. When restaurants have been in business for 6 months and you walk in at dinner time, if no one is in the restaurant that's a sign too. Common sense says something is not good here. I don't need a spreadsheet to tell me if a machine is paying or not, particularly over multiple efforts.

It's funny, but I've never seen anyone using excel in the casino other than maybe a business manager...but no players. They know when a machine doesn't pay and they don't play. That's common sense (or good sense). You can analyze your play and experience anyway you want as long as it's your money.

If I determine machines don't pay online or landbased over a period of time trying, it's my decision to continue playing or not. I can communicate this to a forum as my opinion, and not thesis based or excel analyzed. There are some things that you just feel. I am an analyst by profession and use Excel everyday at work. I don't need advanced formulas or programming to know the results in this situation.

Restaurants and slot machines are so far apart I don't know where to start.

Slots don't "stop paying"......unless they're rigged.

You're entitled to your opinion of course. I'm only arguing with the opinions you're passing off as facts when they are not.

If as an analyst you don't think data and facts are relevant, then either you don't analyze anything important or......

Just because YOU don't win on a slot doesn't mean that it is not paying generally.....it is just not paying YOU.

Crystal waters is a very high variance slot. The fact that you think it has been "altered" shows that you don't understand how slots work.....which is fine, but its hardly reasonable to be making accusations of "rigging"(which you did by saying they removed the bonus round etc) when you obviously don't know what you're on about.