Bonus Term Question

[paul02085]

"3. Please note that bets on some games will not count towards the wagering requirement; the percentage of the bonus which may be wagered on certain games will vary as follows:

* - 100% of the bonus may be wagered on all Slots, Keno and Scratch Card games
* - 10% of the bonus may be wagered on any Roulette, any Video Poker except All Aces Video Poker, or any Blackjack except Classic Blackjack
* - 2% of the bonus may be wagered on Classic Blackjack and All Aces Video Pokers
* - 0% of the bonus may be wagered on Sic Bo, Craps, Baccarat, Table Poker, Casino War or Red Dog"

Does this mean i can play video poker but it only counts as 10% of Wager requirements OR does it mean i can only wager 10% of the bonus i was given ($100) on video poker?

I asked live chat but the person had no clue what i was talking about

Surely it means counts as 10% of wager requirements but i am afraid to play VP without being sure. Anybody?

 

[rainmaker]

Hello

I have not seen this in a T&C before.

As I read it, I would say it means that you only can wager 10% of the bonus on video poker (-all aces V.P). But that just sounds strange.

 

[paul02085]

Hello

I have not seen this in a T&C before.

As I read it, I would say it means that you only can wager 10% of the bonus on video poker (-all aces V.P). But that just sounds strange.

I know it is confusing to me also. If i do what it says i can only wager $10 on video poker. LOL.

 

[3mptyseat]

It is def. worded in a fashion that implies only 10% of the bonus can be wagered on VP. So, if they are not translating and this was the intended semantics, its a predatory term attempting to snag a bonus user with a breach of the terms...

But most likely, if they are on the up n up, its prob. just mis-worded, dontcha think?

 

[rainmaker]

hehe...that is just crazy. For example, if you get $76 in bonuse and wants to play classical Blackjack (2%). You need to use about one hour just to calculate how to bet and play

They have probably messed up something in this section of their T&C. I really don`t know what they mean.

Agree 3mptyseat, probably a mis-worded case .

 

[paul02085]

Its Grand Hotel and i believe they are accredited so i feel sure (almost) its just misworded but the live chat person didnt have a clue and knowing my luck if i play VP i will break the terms. Guess its slots only for this one.

Who was it that said play without a bonus

 

[rainmaker]

...but the live chat person didnt have a clue...

I am quite tired of CS that almost doesn't know what the name of their casino is. It happens all the time that CS either fail to answer the question, or simply don`t understand the question. Especially annoying in casinos where it usually takes two days to get a reply ( William Hill ). First you need to send a question. Wait two days for a reply. Reply don`t answer your question so you need to send a new e-mail. Wait another two days. Takes forever

 

[Rick Deckard]

10% of the bonus may be wagered on any Roulette, any Video Poker except All Aces Video Poker, or any Blackjack except Classic Blackjack

Does this mean i can play video poker but it only counts as 10% of Wager requirements OR does it mean i can only wager 10% of the bonus i was given ($100) on video poker?

I asked live chat but the person had no clue what i was talking about

1. Bonuses (the “bonus”) must be played through 50 times (50x) before they can be transferred from the Player’s bonus balance to cash balance (“wagering requirement”).

I would say it means if you deposit $100 and they give you a "free" match bonus of $100 you would need to playthrough/wager $50,000 (fifty thousand dollars) then after you have completed this task whatever you win from then on is yours to keep up to a maximum of $300.

Maybe look for another casino to play at that offers a better bonus deal on Video poker?

 

[ksech]

You can always contact the casino rep and bypass the CSR to make sure you understand the terms correctly. Unless you want to be ruled by a WR (and sometimes a max cashout rule) why use a bonus? You may get longer playtime, but if you bet differently when using a bonus to burn off the WR, then it's kind of silly to tie up your funds that wahy, JMO.

 

[PlexRep]

Hi Paul,

I don't work for the casino in question, but for what it's worth we have a similar term and I can tell you how it works here.

Rather than create a 'slots only' bonus which can be a bit prohibitive we (and many others) allow people to play a larger variety of games but with less contribution towards the wagering requirement for certain games. If you only want to play video poker then my advice would be to either find another offer or go without a bonus.

Like 3mptyseat, I'm assuming their intention here is the same as ours, but just to be safe I'd pm the rep here as people have suggested to make sure.

Best of luck

 

[petro]

I refer to this as "contribution" or "weighting."

If for instance Slots counts as 100% evey dollar you wager on Slots will counts as a $1 (100%) wager in regards to fulfilling the wagering requirement.

If for instance Video Poker counts as 10% every dollar you wager on Video Poker counts as a 10c (10%) wager in regards to fulfilling the wagering requirement.

It can seem complex at first but you catch on pretty fast.

 

[ksech]

I refer to this as "contribution" or "weighting."

If for instance Slots counts as 100% evey dollar you wager on Slots will counts as a $1 (100%) wager in regards to fulfilling the wagering requirement.

If for instance Video Poker counts as 10% every dollar you wager on Video Poker counts as a 10c (10%) wager in regards to fulfilling the wagering requirement.

It can seem complex at first but you catch on pretty fast.

Nicely written! Even a scatterbrain like me could understand it, simple but to the point without all the hoopla!

 

[vinylweatherman]

Grand Hotel is Microgaming, it's just poor wording. This is the weighting term. Where a game has a weighting of 0%, DON'T PLAY IT, because very often a casino says "doesn't count towards" when they ACTUALLY mean "play on ........... is prohibited", and play on zero weighted games often leads to confiscation of winnings.

There is also a max bet term missing, and which MUST be around in some form. This would prohibit betting the entire starting balance on a single hand of Blackjack (for example), and normally places a limit on the maximum stake that may be used when a bonus is claimed. This limit tends to be around 25% to 30% of the bonus credited, and going higher than this tends to lead to accusations of "bonus abuse".

A 50x WR is HIGH for MGS, the usual is 30x. If you want to play VP with a bonus, look for a place with 30x WR, and even though VP will still be weighted, if this is also 10% you only have to wager $30,000, not $50,000

Avoid the double up feature during bonus play, as this counts as a new bet, and where the amount doubled exceeds the max bet, it is also considered "abusive play" (see Purple Lounge terms, right at the end).

In most cases, bonus players are better off sticking to slots, as any casino that has tried to claim slots play is "bonus abuse" has not been able to substantiate the claim, and often ends up in the pit (see Rival, and it's mass claims that slots play is "bonus abuse").

 

[KasinoKing]

A 50x WR is HIGH for MGS, the usual is 30x. If you want to play VP with a bonus, look for a place with 30x WR, and even though VP will still be weighted, if this is also 10% you only have to wager $30,000, not $50,000

That's what I was going to say! B x 50 is ridiculous when the vast majority of MG's only ask for x30.
As for game weightings - someone round here has a table of all those on the MG page his website...
10% is actually the highest I have listed for VP at ANY MG casino, apart from 32Red (if you can get in to Club Rouge) where virtually EVERY games counts at 100%

KK