New Slot Announcement Bonanza by Big Time Gaming

[dogshead1]

Well opened up Bonanza tonight and first 10 spins at £2 stake it dropped GOL 7 times in a row. Never seen that before not one of them was followed by a cascade. In the first 50 spins a total of 17 GOL only 2 cascaded blank.

Drops GOLD straight in after 70 spins so I'm thinking after an alright return on base game it's on one MEGA.......only to hit a 25x feature again PPffffft

 

[dogshead1]

Then naturally the next 100 spins after the feature it returns to 42% RTP and acts as if the feature just dropped 1000x

 

[nikantw]

My bonanza play at VS

For a fan I don't play that much do I?
I think my RTP is that low because I did some max bets back in late 2017 without "D".

 

[dogshead1]

There you go I keep posting it cant even be assessed to play through 1000 spins again just short of 600 and 56% RTP its getting lower every session...

Fuck this slot its pure legalised robbery.

 

[dogshead1]

Dropped to £1 stake an it drops in in 3 spins on a cascade

 

[dogshead1]

And I win a mega 16x stake [fff

 

[snorky510238]

The trouble is the way all these slots are programmed.Its alright having a steady base game but the reality is how often do you get massively ahead from a win that drops straight in!!!I have only ever had 1x300 and 2x200 out of how many millions of spins so your relying on the bonus rounds to give you that win but that rarely happens because they are compensated by the steady base game.

 

[goatwack]

According to Videoslots' excellent new RTP tracker I'm at about 81% on this game, though I don't play it there as often as say Leo Vegas.

81% may as well be 21% though with the ever- AWOL bonus rounds on it. I may as well be playing Starburst then.

I find it incredible that the bonuses can go missing for so long, so often. With a projected 460 spin ratio it beggars belief how it's almost always over 1000 spins.

Spare a thought for Danger HV though. Got 71% on that with next to no free spins. Utterly devoid of meaning

 

[nutnut]

According to Videoslots' excellent new RTP tracker I'm at about 81% on this game, though I don't play it there as often as say Leo Vegas.

81% may as well be 21% though with the ever- AWOL bonus rounds on it. I may as well be playing Starburst then.

I find it incredible that the bonuses can go missing for so long, so often. With a projected 460 spin ratio it beggars belief how it's almost always over 1000 spins.

Spare a thought for Danger HV though. Got 71% on that with next to no free spins. Utterly devoid of meaning

how do you get your rtp. I want to get it from willhill as im intrigued how much ive been raped.

 

[goatwack]

how do you get your rtp. I want to get it from willhill as im intrigued how much ive been raped.

It's a new tool Videoslots have, check the thread.

I don't think WH will ever have one

 

[snorky510238]

According to Videoslots' excellent new RTP tracker I'm at about 81% on this game, though I don't play it there as often as say Leo Vegas.

81% may as well be 21% though with the ever- AWOL bonus rounds on it. I may as well be playing Starburst then.

I find it incredible that the bonuses can go missing for so long, so often. With a projected 460 spin ratio it beggars belief how it's almost always over 1000 spins.

Spare a thought for Danger HV though. Got 71% on that with next to no free spins. Utterly devoid of meaning

Thing is with both of them even when you trigger the bonus there are so many dead spins.Lately on bonanza I can't get the multiplier above x12 and DHV pays so poor.I hate it when the multiplier goes to x55 but there is no win(total p••s take that 1). It's not just these 2 lately though.I have found the following have all taken a massive nosedive.Junglle spirit,Gonzo's quest,pink elephants,Montezuma,Doa,falcon huntress(don't think that was any good to start with),raging rhino and a whole lot of others all seem to take twice as long to trigger and top hit is about a quater of what it used to be. Of course that's just my bad luck and I keep getting on the wrong side of random (allegedly).

 

[greylady]

According to Videoslots' excellent new RTP tracker I'm at about 81% on this game, though I don't play it there as often as say Leo Vegas.

81% may as well be 21% though with the ever- AWOL bonus rounds on it. I may as well be playing Starburst then.

I find it incredible that the bonuses can go missing for so long, so often. With a projected 460 spin ratio it beggars belief how it's almost always over 1000 spins.

Spare a thought for Danger HV though. Got 71% on that with next to no free spins. Utterly devoid of meaning

That's what I was getting at earlier! For me, it plays totally different to anywhere else I played it at, at least I get bonus rounds even if they are not that great but I find at VS it's nigh on impossible to trigger.

It's mute now as I won't be slotting there again

 

[goatwack]

Thing is with both of them even when you trigger the bonus there are so many dead spins.Lately on bonanza I can't get the multiplier above x12 and DHV pays so poor.I hate it when the multiplier goes to x55 but there is no win(total p••s take that 1). It's not just these 2 lately though.I have found the following have all taken a massive nosedive.Junglle spirit,Gonzo's quest,pink elephants,Montezuma,Doa,falcon huntress(don't think that was any good to start with),raging rhino and a whole lot of others all seem to take twice as long to trigger and top hit is about a quater of what it used to be. Of course that's just my bad luck and I keep getting on the wrong side of random (allegedly).

I could swear with Danger, you get the first reel to crawl to 55x you know it will almost always blow hot air. Almost like some troll move put in by the programmers for a laugh!

Had the pleasure of using pseudo- play money on this earlier, must have jizzed close to £80 on 40p bets to get.............

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about £6

 

[slotmaster]

weeeeeeeeeeee 5 ways 6oak DIAMONDS hit in base game! 200x win.

 

[gtpaul]

To all the seasoned hard headed veterans who dont believe playing with bonus money makes any difference.
Last night I was given a "Free" bonus no deposit required, the amount of bonuses triggered was unbelievable.

What amazes me more is the way the games played including bonanza.

How can it be that if games are "random" that when on a bonus the gameplay changes so much?

I have been online gambling since 2003, the industry sure got wiser, as did technology.

 

[goatwack]

To all the seasoned hard headed veterans who dont believe playing with bonus money makes any difference.
Last night I was given a "Free" bonus no deposit required, the amount of bonuses triggered was unbelievable.

What amazes me more is the way the games played including bonanza.

How can it be that if games are "random" that when on a bonus the gameplay changes so much?

I have been online gambling since 2003, the industry sure got wiser, as did technology.

I've noticed this a helluva lot when playing with bonuses over the years, on many, many games. It's uncanny

 

[Chipkin9]

According to Videoslots' excellent new RTP tracker I'm at about 81% on this game, though I don't play it there as often as say Leo Vegas.

81% may as well be 21% though with the ever- AWOL bonus rounds on it. I may as well be playing Starburst then.

I find it incredible that the bonuses can go missing for so long, so often. With a projected 460 spin ratio it beggars belief how it's almost always over 1000 spins.

Spare a thought for Danger HV though. Got 71% on that with next to no free spins. Utterly devoid of meaning

The thing is...There's a 50-50% chance of getting a bonus either before or after 450 spins.

So if you have 4500 spins, you should see 10 bonus rounds. Of course you are going to see the very odd time where you won't see a bonus within this amount. It's the equivalent of say going 1500 spins without a bonus on DoA.

It's also the equivalent of spinning red ten times in a row on Roulette (When you bet Black).

I've gone 9,000 spins without a bonus on this game. That's 20 bonus rounds I should have had. That is the exact same odds as missing that black and hitting a red 20 times in a row. What are the odds on that?

Now factor this in with the fact that not only once have I gone 9000 spins without a bonus round, but three times. The odds on that? Must be astronomical.

Add to this that it is happening every single today to at least hundreds of people and that tells you all you need to know. 450 spins an average bonus my hole!

 

[gtpaul]

9000 spins...............
Jeez I only ever play the game on £5 / £10 / £20 spins.

I have had a lucky escape.

 

[CC07]

 

[gtpaul]

Top,
Hope it didnt cost too much.

I used to play small stakes but as I got braver upped the stakes.
It was working well until recently when it has sucked it all back and some extra for good measure.

Now I make deposits of between £500 / £1000 per session.

It has worked well for me betting on the higher stakes until recently.
The game is now out to pasture, while I consider its future.

The lord giveth, the lord taketh.

 

[CC07]

It was just a £10 deposit. I always stick to small deposits and small stakes so I never feel too disappointed if I lose

 

[gtpaul]

Yes, best way to go.

As I said I started the same way and built up a large balance then upped the stakes.

Maybe a good strategy now is try and get a bonus on a 20p stake, then "up" the stake to maybe £5 / £10 if the bankroll can support it!

As usually (not always) Ive found the next bonus is not too far away.

My usual pattern is to restart the game straight after the bonus has finished, sometimes drops back in again pretty quickly.
Maybe just tinfoil or a different server start point.

GL

 

[goatwack]

It's a war of attrition with this slot. The most I've built up is 4-500 off a tenner deposit. Out came the big bets (60p) because I'd worked so hard to get there, I didn't fancy losing it again

I don't think I could ever brave £5 bets, even on £500. The game has gone on insane dry streaks, where I've lost a couple of hundred even on 20p bets. It takes some balls to bet anything higher than a quid on this

 

[gtpaul]

I hear you.
I only upped my stakes because I coudnt lose on it, It went on a hot streak for weeks.
I built up a massive balance, and well its all gone back.

I did manage to buy a quad bike and some new equipment for the cafe before I finally busted.
I should of walked when over £8k up, or at least when the losing run started, but you never really know what pattern is happening.

After checking my logs Im still ahead overall on the slots (still mainly to BTG)

Will just cut back my expenditure now.

GL

 

[Smithyy]

Not sure if anyone would care for this, but I thought I would share anyway - if nothing else, just to share my own experiences in terms of what % of the bonuses actually pay well!

So I've been playing Bonanza pretty solidly for around 5 months - have put hundreds of thousands of spins through. Decided to begin keeping track of my bonuses a few months ago. So that's what I've listed below - it's most of them, although there have been times I've forgotten, but this should give a good indication of just how rare big hits really are!

(Of course, on the left is stake, on the right is what the bonus paid.)

£2 - £32.50
£2 - £147
£2 - 32.90
£2 - £89.50
£2 - £38.50
£2 - £139
£2 - £283
£2 - £258
£2 - £716
£2 - £260
£5 - £120
£2 - £70
£2 - £231
£2 - £237
£1 - £138
£1 - £67
£1 - £78
£0.80 - £23
£1 - £32.50
£1 - £65
£0.80 - £565
£2 - £25
£1 - £84
£2 - £48
£2 - £217
£2 - £183
£2 - £171
£2 - £155
£1 - £30
£2 - 119
£2 - £145
£2 - £56
£2 - £244
£2 - £660
£4 - £321
£4 - £1,040
£4 - £1,805
£5 - £739
£5 - £233
£5 - £181
£5 - £57
£0.80 - £47
£0.80 - £40
£1 - £201
£2 - £89
£1 - £17
£1 - £56
£1 - £33
£1 - £27
£2 - £128
£1 - £37
£0.60 - £14
£0.80 - £88
£0.80 - £142
£2 - £101
£1 - £12
£1 - £176
£2 - £321
£2 - £71

Just a record pretty much all bonuses since I started noting them down - thought it may be interesting to some!

 

[gtpaul]

A good summary,

As with most bonuses they are all predetermined.
The server / software has already calculated what your going to get (hence why you can save it and play it later like the streamers do)

GL

 

[nikantw]

The thing is...There's a 50-50% chance of getting a bonus either before or after 450 spins.

Not 50-50.

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When we determine the probability of two independent events we multiply the probability of the first event by the probability of the second event.
In this case the event is the same, no feature, with probability of 449/450. The probability of 2 spins without getting a feature is (449/450) x (449/450).
So the probability of N spins without getting a feature is (449/450)^N.

For 450 spins it is 36.75%
For 1500 spins it is 3.55%
For 9000 spins it is 2/1,000,000,000

 

[snorky510238]

Top,
Hope it didnt cost too much.

I used to play small stakes but as I got braver upped the stakes.
It was working well until recently when it has sucked it all back and some extra for good measure.

Now I make deposits of between £500 / £1000 per session.

It has worked well for me betting on the higher stakes until recently.
The game is now out to pasture, while I consider its future.

The lord giveth, the lord taketh.

Trouble with the Lord.He always taketh more than he giveth.He's like that.

 

[Chipkin9]

Not 50-50.

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When we determine the probability of two independent events we multiply the probability of the first event by the probability of the second event.
In this case the event is the same, no feature, with probability of 449/450. The probability of 2 spins without getting a feature is (449/450) x (449/450).
So the probability of N spins without getting a feature is (449/450)^N.

For 450 spins it is 36.75%
For 1500 spins it is 3.55%
For 9000 spins it is 2/1,000,000,000

Yea I understand...I was just keeping it as simple as I could based on a yes or no

Thanks for the link btw.

I don't know what this operator is though or how to apply it ^

 

[nikantw]

Yea I understand...I was just keeping it as simple as I could based on a yes or no

Thanks for the link btw.

I don't know what this operator is though or how to apply it ^

x^y or x power y

It is actually this

for p = 1/450 k=0 and n=N
but I wanted to keep it simple

 

[goatwack]

It is actually this

View attachment 89904

for p = 1/450 k=0 and n=N
but I wanted to keep it simple

Oh my god I used to hate Algebra. Thanks for the flashback

 

[Chipkin9]

x^y or x power y

It is actually this

View attachment 89904

for p = 1/450 k=0 and n=N
but I wanted to keep it simple

I was thinking it was to the power of. Which is where you multiply say to the power of 10; you do 2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2.

I'll look into it later, as I wanted to relearn this since I've long forgotten it.

 

[nikantw]

I was thinking it was to the power of. Which is where you multiply say to the power of 10; you do 2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2.

I'll look into it later, as I wanted to relearn this since I've long forgotten it.

Yes that's it. A pic from win10 scientific calculator

 

[CC07]

Old Attachment (Invalid) After my earlier £148 Bonanza win at VS today, I thought i’d try again to see if I could be as lucky with a wee £5 deposit at Sky Vegas.

Eh, that would be a no then

 

[greylady]

It tracks you, knew you had already had your piece of the cake and was like , you are not having that again

 

[CC07]

It tracks you, knew you had already had your piece of the cake and was like , you are not having that again

It certainly feels like it! 10p is definitely the lowest I’ve ever had from 12 bonus spins.

 

[pinnit2014]

It certainly feels like it! 10p is definitely the lowest I’ve ever had from 12 bonus spins.

Try zero from 12 on a fiver.

Then you’ll experience true, unadulterated pain

Before you wake the neighbours shouting ‘you rigged piece of @@@@‘

 

[Gaz237]

Not sure if anyone would care for this, but I thought I would share anyway - if nothing else, just to share my own experiences in terms of what % of the bonuses actually pay well!

So I've been playing Bonanza pretty solidly for around 5 months - have put hundreds of thousands of spins through. Decided to begin keeping track of my bonuses a few months ago. So that's what I've listed below - it's most of them, although there have been times I've forgotten, but this should give a good indication of just how rare big hits really are!

(Of course, on the left is stake, on the right is what the bonus paid.)

£2 - £32.50
£2 - £147
£2 - 32.90
£2 - £89.50
£2 - £38.50
£2 - £139
£2 - £283
£2 - £258
£2 - £716
£2 - £260
£5 - £120
£2 - £70
£2 - £231
£2 - £237
£1 - £138
£1 - £67
£1 - £78
£0.80 - £23
£1 - £32.50
£1 - £65
£0.80 - £565
£2 - £25
£1 - £84
£2 - £48
£2 - £217
£2 - £183
£2 - £171
£2 - £155
£1 - £30
£2 - 119
£2 - £145
£2 - £56
£2 - £244
£2 - £660
£4 - £321
£4 - £1,040
£4 - £1,805
£5 - £739
£5 - £233
£5 - £181
£5 - £57
£0.80 - £47
£0.80 - £40
£1 - £201
£2 - £89
£1 - £17
£1 - £56
£1 - £33
£1 - £27
£2 - £128
£1 - £37
£0.60 - £14
£0.80 - £88
£0.80 - £142
£2 - £101
£1 - £12
£1 - £176
£2 - £321
£2 - £71

Just a record pretty much all bonuses since I started noting them down - thought it may be interesting to some!

Those results are pretty good , compared to a lot of other peoples

 

[nutnut]

If i had bonuses that good id never complain, mine would read 90% under £5

 

[goatwack]

What is.....'bonus' ??

 

[slotmaster]

New record of ways hit! 180 way's of 10's for like 150x win in base game. On the flip side GOL GOL GOL DAY.

 

[greylady]

This actually tells you a story about Bonanza, last 30 sessions and only 3 x it managed to hit it's RTP or above - it's as good as saying you have not got a hope in hell of winning

55.64%
65.52%
73.64%
79.95%
86.15%
79.76%
96.07%
42.95%
49.80%
70.74%
50.97%
76.79%
45.22%
62.55%
62.27%
78.74%
115.23%
180.23%
32.86%
85.17%
29.02%
71.35%
32.50%
63.77%
84.28%
56.94%
64.67%
36.25%

 

[nutnut]

This actually tells you a story about Bonanza, last 30 sessions and only 3 x it managed to hit it's RTP or above - it's as good as saying you have not got a hope in hell of winning

55.64%
65.52%
73.64%
79.95%
86.15%
79.76%
96.07%
42.95%
49.80%
70.74%
50.97%
76.79%
45.22%
62.55%
62.27%
78.74%
115.23%
180.23%
32.86%
85.17%
29.02%
71.35%
32.50%
63.77%
84.28%
56.94%
64.67%
36.25%

Think I worked out why we always lose, it's Slotmaster nicking all our wins.

Case solved!

 

[slotmaster]

Think I worked out why we always lose, it's Slotmaster nicking all our wins.

Case solved!

HAHA I was thinking of you yesterday and was going to thank you for filling up the slot for me. . It was base game wins today, No gold in sight for many many spins now like you guy's and actually I find it's what grey lady posted, You have a good session or two then it's awful. Tonight it was frustrating on all slots as like all bonus rounds were crap and I played er down tonight.

 

[mina1929]

I have been only betting 20c and 40c lately with deposits of 30,50, 70, 100 and no bonus

I win and lose, lose again and win again eventually. I still love the game though.

I will be back Bonanza so better watch out

 

[deadoralive23]

After reading this thread i played this game for 3-4 hours.
No feature
-£150
Absolute shite

 

[Harry_BKK]

I can't complain, TBH. Especially, since I played rather often with $4 - $10 bets.

What is interesting are the big drops in RTP. Right after a spike it returns on average to the expected RTP within a week and that every time....hmmm...tinfoil hat coming?

 

[pinnit2014]

Royal panda last night was a flurry of Gold - around 7 in 500 spins (sorry for those who meant that they’d to go 3k to compensate for that - oh no, did I just reference compensating? ) All on a quid, all but one gave more than x30.

But threw in a 250 x

It was probably jealous that I was having it off with it’s poorer cousin last night.

 

[pinnit2014]

And Wow and Behold - literally 5 minutes after the above post came a 1435 at VS this time

- flurry of aces, needed two reels of them and it gave.

 

[jackanory2279]

yer bonanza has gone dead cold for me.. 1000 soins last night without a feature and i cant remember the last time i had 100X feature base game pays better then feature atm. i had a 400X...queen of riches and starquest are 2 of the worst paying slots in history. literally 200 deadspins everytime i play them