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I dont think the actual hit was from a streamer, but it was that 'letsgiveitaspin' guy that posted it on youtube.
So this seemingly once in a lifetime win was re-created by BTG themselves, and going by their history with creating wins it would not exactly surprise me if this was the same deal.
Weird how they did not re-create all the other 10.000x+ wins that the game is surely spitting out each year.
Hit is around 3:50.
It was a viewer of him that said they won that mega win. Kim then obtained the replay for him.
Seems to be a genuine 14,000x win, not something concocted by BTG.
Ok, fair enough. Yet still, a win reconstructed and popularized via a streamer, to the point where it's been near-enough memed ever since.
Doesn't negate the fact that in the intervening years across millions of spins, BTG haven't seen fit to replicate any wins of significance in a replay......because there haven't been any!
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Apologies my friend but the highlighted words do not and never will belong together in the same sentence
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How would anyone be able to tell the difference between a genuine win and something created by a BTG 'intern'?
Its not like i said there was any proof that the win was not genuine, just that it wouldnt surprise me if it turned out to be 'concocted' because of what they have done in the past.
Still think its pretty odd or even suspicious that no videos featuring wins of similar size (or even close) has shown up after that one video all those years ago.
Personally i would find it much less suspicious if it was some random person that uploaded a win that size and not a streamer being handed a video by BTG.
Why wouldn't it be genuine?
No more genuine then my 13,200x win on DHV, a game that I hardly play.
What are the odds of hitting such a win and add to that that it was captured on video and by a Casinomeister member? The odds must be astronomical.
Not everything is always a conspiracy
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I wonder what the odds are of hitting max ways in the bonus like the BTG guy said WAS possible?
Funnily enough nobody has ever seen it. Yet on games where it IS possible like WWTBAM and the mega pays version of bonanza along with a few others it’s been seen hundreds of times by all of us.
He was also on a stream ( I can’t remember which of his boyfriends it was) and said they’d had bigger than the recreated fabled 14,000X win. I wonder if that statement is also true?
Like his response saying scatters weren’t possible in the max Megaways which depending on what version you were playing at the time was also total bollox.
Along with the fake screenshots on queen of riches that a ‘rogue’ employee was posting near the games release.
It’s these reasons and more that people doubt things.
When you’ve talked shit before then people are not always inclined to believe you I’m afraid.
Funnily enough nobody has ever seen it. Yet on games where it IS possible like WWTBAM and the mega pays version of bonanza along with a few others it’s been seen hundreds of times by all of us.
He was also on a stream ( I can’t remember which of his boyfriends it was) and said they’d had bigger than the recreated fabled 14,000X win. I wonder if that statement is also true?
Like his response saying scatters weren’t possible in the max Megaways which depending on what version you were playing at the time was also total bollox.
Along with the fake screenshots on queen of riches that a ‘rogue’ employee was posting near the games release.
It’s these reasons and more that people doubt things.
When you’ve talked shit before then people are not always inclined to believe you I’m afraid.
Not everything's a conspiracy but not everything's squeaky- clean at all times either.
BTG have been caught bang to rights on numerous occasions, the sort of thing that erodes trust in a brand.
Never ones to miss a trick when it comes to shilling their product on any number of platforms, are we going to pretend that if any player - streamer or otherwise - were to get a record- breaking hit, that they wouldn't be aware of it in any capacity?
If records can be retrieved and gameplay rounds replicated, then they'd be all over it. I think we're past the point of believing BTG's antics to be fully genuine. This site's merely a small corner of the internet, and yet they've been caught foul numerous times.
It doesn't have to be 'conspiratorial' for them just to be outright scabby in their conduct, does it?
BTG have been caught bang to rights on numerous occasions, the sort of thing that erodes trust in a brand.
Never ones to miss a trick when it comes to shilling their product on any number of platforms, are we going to pretend that if any player - streamer or otherwise - were to get a record- breaking hit, that they wouldn't be aware of it in any capacity?
If records can be retrieved and gameplay rounds replicated, then they'd be all over it. I think we're past the point of believing BTG's antics to be fully genuine. This site's merely a small corner of the internet, and yet they've been caught foul numerous times.
It doesn't have to be 'conspiratorial' for them just to be outright scabby in their conduct, does it?
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Yes, the odds of hitting a win like yours on DHV must be astronomical, same goes for most wins in the 10.000x+ thread.
Ive even had a couple of them myself.
The difference is of course that those wins happened even with the odds being astronomical, but Bonanza have not produced anything even close to the 14.000x win despite having had much more manpower working on it.
Like i said i do think its a bit odd that what is seemingly the only 10.000x+ win in Bonanza history was created by BTG and handed to a streamer that went on to create free pr/hype for the game.
Of course knowing about their 'intern' shenanigans and that they are not above this sort of stuff adds fuel to the fire for me , but everyone is free to believe what they want.
Not everything is always a conspiracy, but the Bonanza big win mystery have many of the right components to be one.
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What happened to the “amazing” 3-Dice?
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Sorry, just read this. I've been busy.
I'm not including retriggers in that.
As we stand since 23/12/22.
228,000 spins
528 features
5 scatters 39 times
6 scatters 10 times
5 scatters and +5 retrigger 3 times
24 +5 retriggers on 4 scatters
2 double +5 retriggers on 4 scatters
1 triple +5 retrigger on 4 scatters
Not had a seven scatter or a quadruple cart retrigger - whatever that gives you.
Like everything else on this slot, they tend to clump together, getting three of the above in four features is a fairly regular occurrence.
Short of me screenshotting everything you'll just have to take my word for it. I can assure you I'm not lying or trying to impress anyone.
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It would be interesting to know what the average of those bonuses was and if they were all at the same Casino, which one?
It can’t possibly be Videoslots or Unibet. They run the 86% rtp version, that has never been discovered by the “auditors”.
They have to be among two of the worst Casinos going. Scum, both of them!
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That’s a 6 scatter trigger every 22,800 spins!!!
I’ve had 8 in about 2 million spins. So that’s roughly 1 in 225,000!!!
Some people are just born lucky!!
Snorky you ought to try paddy powers!! There is something seriously wrong with that game!!
I’ve nudged them again about but my figures. I’m still awaiting what is surely a very basic request.
I’ve had 8 in about 2 million spins. So that’s roughly 1 in 225,000!!!
Some people are just born lucky!!
Snorky you ought to try paddy powers!! There is something seriously wrong with that game!!
I’ve nudged them again about but my figures. I’m still awaiting what is surely a very basic request.
Why would casinos be forthcoming in handing you a stick with which to beat them with?
Any casino that claims it is incapable of understanding what RTP is, never mind pull a user's RTP off their records, ought not to even be operational.
And yet, combing through play logs to requisition potential winnings, or casinos tiptoeing around UKGC mandates is second nature to them!
Bonanza's erratic enough as it is, but you don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to see how slots behave differently at different sites. All the more reason why I'd happily accept Bonanza underperforms greatly at certain sites compared to others.
I think seeing different-varianced versions of the same games isn't a new phenomenon, and I can say with confidence that the 'less generous versions' at certain casinos definitely have a 50% chance of being true to their advertised RTP. Even when playing like different games altogether
Any casino that claims it is incapable of understanding what RTP is, never mind pull a user's RTP off their records, ought not to even be operational.
And yet, combing through play logs to requisition potential winnings, or casinos tiptoeing around UKGC mandates is second nature to them!
Bonanza's erratic enough as it is, but you don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to see how slots behave differently at different sites. All the more reason why I'd happily accept Bonanza underperforms greatly at certain sites compared to others.
I think seeing different-varianced versions of the same games isn't a new phenomenon, and I can say with confidence that the 'less generous versions' at certain casinos definitely have a 50% chance of being true to their advertised RTP. Even when playing like different games altogether
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I played at many, many places but never Paddy or Billy Hill. I have requested my rtp from many Casinos in the past and yes, some take a while but can’t remember one taking more than a week.
They’re probably trying to find a way to blag you and look authentic at the same time.
There’s no way I can possibly post all my screenshots but I absolutely guarantee if all my gameplay was recorded, a 5 year old would spot how the game has been murdered. It’s not even close to the game it used to be.
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My Bonanza screenshot contribution to this thread 
I can't say whether the game is good or bad as just a few minutes ago, I bought around 15 bonuses on Sugar Rush.
Only one chucked a 180x. The rest were complete shite, some even paid less than 5x.
On Bonanza, i bought 4 bonuses for 90 EUR each. Two of them gave re-triggers, but both paid under 100x in total anyway. The above win was the best.
Then switched to White Rabbit and bought 3 bonuses, and all 3 paid over 100x, one even 500x.
At least this managed to get some money back from that Sugar Rush.
I can't say whether the game is good or bad as just a few minutes ago, I bought around 15 bonuses on Sugar Rush.
Only one chucked a 180x. The rest were complete shite, some even paid less than 5x.
On Bonanza, i bought 4 bonuses for 90 EUR each. Two of them gave re-triggers, but both paid under 100x in total anyway. The above win was the best.
Then switched to White Rabbit and bought 3 bonuses, and all 3 paid over 100x, one even 500x.
At least this managed to get some money back from that Sugar Rush.
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Yeas tbf it’s getting on my nerves that they won’t send it to me. But here is something I can do myself.
Now I’m not dumb enough to play slots on sites that are anything but max rtp. So the screenshot below would be 99% Bonanza play as most of their other providers maths models are on 94% or lower.
There would be a touch of millionaire and danger but noting of any note.
It doesn’t let you change the dates on the right to go back any more than 6 months. If I select say the last year the figures don’t change.
Now with the use of a calculator I can see that based on an average of 30p stake because I mainly play 20/40p we can deduce that I’ve done around 84,550 spins in that last 6 month period on paddy. Getting a return of 89.76% which is actually a little more than I thought but still a fair bit down on where I should be.
Somewhere along those 6 months I’ve missed out on £1,585 worth of wins.
Now playing the kind of stakes I do it’s hard to see where that will ever come back.
Included in the returns is also the free £5 bonus which the they give you every week. Which altho barely adding much will actually make the stats slightly worse.
As soon as I get my full figures they will be posted. I’m happy to be proved wrong but I very much doubt I will.
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It'll even out and gravitate towards RTP, but given that 'achieving RTP' means finishing up down, even if you hit a relatively solid period of correction, you'll still be down at the end of it, and as your total spin count increases, your total expected overall loss will be higher - so to 'win' some of your heavier than expected losses back, you also have to lose more. (A cynical person might suggest the house always wins!)
As the conclusion of the film Wargames taught us -
A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
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Sorry snorks, but again I can’t really agree with you on the bonanza versus Videoslots angle, my stats since dec last year to start of august ok only 20,000 odd spins but clearly not as bad for everyone as you claim, it’s about time you accepted that slots dont revolve around just one player ( eg you ) There will always be people running hot and cold you seem to have forgotten you ran hot for a long time while many of us at the time were running like you are now. Play any slot long enough your going to see the best and worst it can offer with everything in between.
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Another point that many people don’t comment on much either is unless you play 99+% of your play at the same stake, game variance and RTP can vary greatly either way, and very much skew your results long or short term.
In other words it’s not all about the amount of game rounds you have played but the stakes you have played them at.
In other words it’s not all about the amount of game rounds you have played but the stakes you have played them at.
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As u may know or not know I’m not a cynic and a rigged brigade member I just mention paddy as it consistently plays like garbage for me.
I can take a bad run and I can take bad luck, but when it constantly plays below the expected how long can u take it before you think what’s going on here???
That 80,000 odd spins is nowhere near the total amount I’ve done at that site but the pattern of play has always been bad throughout??
Why keep returning some would say? Well the answer is I haven’t in recent times. But I did previously because just like you I was confident I was getting unlucky and just running so bad it was beyond a joke. But the punishment became unbearable and I let go.
I’ll await my full figures before going further into debate but in all my years of playing I’ve never known a game to play so continuously crap over such a long period of time.
I played fruit machines full time for 15 yrs and have been punting away on line for about 7 yrs. so I haven’t just done a ton deposit and started moaning cos I didn’t get a feature!!
And yes we know the house always wins ffs.
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Completely agree with this. A Spawny win on a stake raise or likewise a dead spell on a stake raise can skew figures.
My only decent win on paddy was when I was so balls deep in without a feature I raised to either 80 or a quid. Can’t remember which, spawned a feature which paid just shy of a 1000x.
Which ironically makes my figures even worse.
But the amount of times I’ve gone 300-400x to see a feature on that site is far greater than anywhere else. Pretty damn regular for long periods in fact. It’s not the base game it’s as tho you’re playing with half the fucking scatters available. When getting a tease feels like an achievement you know your in a world of trouble and it happens far to often there IMO.
It’s why Dazzas vids tilt that absolute shit out of me.
Nothing revelatory about some sites playing worse than others I suppose. We've all seen it, on any number of favourite slots etc
This is why players would go to the sites where their favourite games played best, despite being informed that games play the same across the board, at least in the good old days eh!
Given all we know about various RTP models being in use, I would not shit the bed if told that casinos had been using differing versions before it even became a 'thing'. I'd wager this practice went under the radar unbeknownst to players, for many, many years prior.
I think avid devotees to any one game can spot these disparities after extended play, just like I'd see Mr Smith's version of DOA play markedly different to Leo Vegas', way back when.
I don't need to sink £££thousands into a version of an oft-played favourite to prove myself wrong, and continue the futility, no matter how much people wish to chide my contrary experience, but there it is. Unless of course they'd bankroll those sessions for me!
As regards Bonanza, I surprisingly enough had the best and most fruitfully compact sessions at White Asshat casinos, whereby they all appeared to be most forthcoming, even across their various skins. Won't dogpile VS, but Bonanza play there was as mid as they come (whilst enjoying favourable returns on other favourites though, I like to think).
For real hijinks though I'd put forward Sun Bingo's 'interpretation' of the game. That's one force-field you're gonna have real fun on
This is why players would go to the sites where their favourite games played best, despite being informed that games play the same across the board, at least in the good old days eh!
Given all we know about various RTP models being in use, I would not shit the bed if told that casinos had been using differing versions before it even became a 'thing'. I'd wager this practice went under the radar unbeknownst to players, for many, many years prior.
I think avid devotees to any one game can spot these disparities after extended play, just like I'd see Mr Smith's version of DOA play markedly different to Leo Vegas', way back when.
I don't need to sink £££thousands into a version of an oft-played favourite to prove myself wrong, and continue the futility, no matter how much people wish to chide my contrary experience, but there it is. Unless of course they'd bankroll those sessions for me!
As regards Bonanza, I surprisingly enough had the best and most fruitfully compact sessions at White Asshat casinos, whereby they all appeared to be most forthcoming, even across their various skins. Won't dogpile VS, but Bonanza play there was as mid as they come (whilst enjoying favourable returns on other favourites though, I like to think).
For real hijinks though I'd put forward Sun Bingo's 'interpretation' of the game. That's one force-field you're gonna have real fun on
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oh absolutely this was / is the case, as will land based there has always been different “profiles” of the same game. Land based is split into single site, arcade and bingo to better fit the players in those environments.
Online however it’s more down to some casinos wanting less liability on a popular game for example, yet can have the exact same RTP.
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Yes, exactly this. I can take losing and all the rest of it but as you say, when your continually depositing thousands of pounds and getting the sessions from hell 90% of the time, it wouldn’t be normal to not question it.
I played the game for 5 years solid, 3 or 4 hours, virtually every single day. At a rough guess (remember that is a hell of a lot of play), I would say, I had 3 or 4 sessions per week where I would hit 6-10 bonuses and god knows how many with 3 or 4 bonuses. I am not saying, I was winning all the time because I deposited a lot but I was making 4 or 5 withdrawals a week of anything between £100-£600 and occasionally more.
Then, in the next two years, I never had a single session where I hit more than 4 bonuses and withdrew more than £300 about 15 times in total.
That is not coincidence or good luck and bad luck. That is the result of a game that has been totally destroyed and gimped to hell.
I have asked VS to post my deposits versus withdrawals (lifetime) and they refuse to do so because of some bs about data protection. How does that breach data protection? my username isn’t my real name, it would include no personal details and they have my full permission.
No, the reason they won’t do it is because it would be blatantly obvious how their site is running and how I have been getting f***ed over. If you don’t believe me, fair enough. If you don’t like me, I couldn’t give a shite but one thing I am not, is a liar.
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In this situation, I am always accused of the spin sample not being large enough or being selective with the months I cover so that has to work both ways. As @ChopleyIOM would say. Your lifetime rtp is probably within 1 or 2%. Just out of interest, is it?
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Not common knowledge that though, is it? Undoubtedly is the case though but extremely underhanded and immoral.
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Done a few million spins at paddys sister site on a ceartiin poplar game with 1 line, when it were max rtp. Was the only site it consistently played shiit at, running like no other, consistently taking hundreds of hours longer gaps to reproduce wins over 400x . playing for thousads of hours on penny stakes over a few years .
Not suprised to read that post, pmk. Like yourself, played fruits all my life and online over ten years, making money. As a result, I'm a noticer too.
I really wanted to get my rtp for this ass raping, since nowhere else played like that and ive sessioned that game more than most, lol. No suprise that they refused to provide my personal rtp, like paddys for pmk.
Now, if i want the freebies back, such as fridays spin 15-75 tiimes till your either kys or your win total finally reaches at least 10p, I've gotta play the game on 94 %. Yeah, well, fuck you. No.
Not suprised to read that post, pmk. Like yourself, played fruits all my life and online over ten years, making money. As a result, I'm a noticer too.
I really wanted to get my rtp for this ass raping, since nowhere else played like that and ive sessioned that game more than most, lol. No suprise that they refused to provide my personal rtp, like paddys for pmk.
Now, if i want the freebies back, such as fridays spin 15-75 tiimes till your either kys or your win total finally reaches at least 10p, I've gotta play the game on 94 %. Yeah, well, fuck you. No.
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last time I got it to work I was at 99.7% lifetime RTP but crashes when I try and go back further? That’s why I got the stats from as far back as it would work till couple of weeks ago or so. Eg dec 2022 to aug 23
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Yeah, I have tried to go back further than 6 months and it won’t have it.
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Small spin sample but it does let me pull back my 'all time' Bonanza stats. Even with the loss earlier in the year I'm still comfortably over target.
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That’d be your 800 odd x the first time you played it!! Us regular morons that played it had to wait 2 years and 500,000 spins for a hit like that!!
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Had al bit strange and rare sessions on Bonanza..
All 12 dead spins.. Lovely bonus
And First time shit load of diamonds on 117k megaways paid x800
All 12 dead spins.. Lovely bonus
And First time shit load of diamonds on 117k megaways paid x800
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Big Time Gaming look set to release Bonanza Falls in a few month's time. Max win 94,000X.
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Is this real??
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The 94,000x certainly isn’t.
More chance of a raise on an actual 2p pusher.
More chance of a raise on an actual 2p pusher.
At least BTG are finally being honest about this game, even with the typo.
Even managed to chuck a little humour in there with the 94,000x, a mere 80,000x more than anything verifiable!
Bonanza Fails is going to be a smash-hit sensation among the streaming troupe, mark my words
Even managed to chuck a little humour in there with the 94,000x, a mere 80,000x more than anything verifiable!
Bonanza Fails is going to be a smash-hit sensation among the streaming troupe, mark my words
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BTG and honest, in the same sentence. Hmm!
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Defo not same game as the original as this screen shot proves…..
I’m having a proper run at the moment….had a ton of bonuses this week, been putting in £100 and cashing out £2-£300 everyday. Having a spin this evening and hit over 1600x….full screen of greens on a x9 multi paid 1400x. Finished up on a 27 multi.
upped to £2 and a few spins later a 200x bonus drops in….2 retriggers in the bonus too, but a lot of dead spins….awesome session! Will stick a couple of pics up later!
upped to £2 and a few spins later a 200x bonus drops in….2 retriggers in the bonus too, but a lot of dead spins….awesome session! Will stick a couple of pics up later!
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Feast or famine on that site for me - same as Quinn Bet.
I ran so bad on Boyles at the start of the year they were sending through 100 FS at a quid each (no WR)
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Hahaha, I used to play quinbet but hit me with a sow for about 1k deposits.Feast or famine on that site for me - same as Quinn Bet.
I ran so bad on Boyles at the start of the year they were sending through 100 FS at a quid each (no WR)
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NOT RIGGED!
RIGGED!
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It's all so confusing.
So the latest Bonanza news, after 850 pages and seven years, is that sometimes people win on it and sometimes people lose on it, but overall it runs with a house edge of 4% so in the end you're going to lose as a mathematical certainty, especially since it's incapable of delivering the sort of massive win that can pull back a massive deficit, DOA2 style.
I think the crux of it is that this thread has prevailed after 850 pages and seven years because people like to share their experiences on it, whether good or bad. Chiding them as to them calling the game rigged or not rigged is pointless, as it pertains to their session on any given day.
I'd also like to believe most are aware that the game has a house edge when playing it, although if recent feedback is anything to go by, Evolution have seemingly nerfed the base game, apparent to seasoned players, in favour of making it top-heavy towards an (already) underwhelming bonus feature.
In regards to the bonus, it is capable of the DOA-esque hits, though often after already being somewhat in the hole - the game's greatest gift. I don't think anyone's ever claimed any special treatment off Bonanza, I think most are aware of its nature. Perhaps the thread ought to be forked on your say-so?
