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[nutnut]

View attachment 108192 Had this 1438X hit this afternoon helped by 4 ways of 5 diamonds at 13X which paid £520 alone. My best feature on bonza for a year.

nice hit, was playing at same time at £2 a spin..........*i can dream*

Thats todays "big" hit sorted, so i can take a break for tonight

 

[snorky510238]

I had a few “your internet connection is slow please reload” messages on DOA2 yesterday and the odd laggy spin on Bonanza but seemed fine today. Most of my issues were at Trada. Where have you been playing?

It doesn’t seem to matter where I play but VS is usually ok but has been the worst lately. Casumo has been awful since they revamped the site just for speed alone. The DOA2 was particularly bad at Slotsmillions. I can only assume it’s a Btg problem because I rarely get issues with other providers.

 

[nutnut]

I had a first before. bonus was shit.

But had 5 gaps on cascade and GOLD fell in 4 of those spaces. never in my life did i think gold can fall in without a letter showing on first spin of a cascade drop.

shame it paid feck all!

 

[snorky510238]

I've just caught up with this thread and I'm gutted that Redface has abandoned us

I have not touched Bonanza since my 4k x hit

Yes I thought he was going to enlighten us a bit for a minute. Not that I understood any of the programming jargon but he seemed to have gone to an awful lot of trouble with those posts if there was nothing in them worth discussing.

 

[mack341]

Yes I thought he was going to enlighten us a bit for a minute. Not that I understood any of the programming jargon but he seemed to have gone to an awful lot of trouble with those posts if there was nothing in them worth discussing.

I wish some posters hadn't tried to troll him and preemptively dismiss him, I think we might have learnt a bit more of the nitty gritty of how an actual slot program works. he mentioned something about jackpots being controlled in his first posts but never revisited that point

the code adapts to the players winnings, losses etc. is quite intriguing

It even states, when jackpot isn't available for a given session, because the criterias aren't met.

regarding the balance issue he was particularly interested in, does the server need to know your balance if prior to the result of the spin the game takes the price of the spin? I've noticed there's often a slight delay after pressing spin and the spin cost being deducted from your balance.

So it could be 1. server checks balance 2. server actions rng 3. stake cost removed from balance 4. result of rng displayed. If that is roughly the order maybe it doesn't need action (1) if it removes the cost of the spin first? (3)

[ You can tell I would've never have got me foot in the door of a computer programming lesson ]

 

[mack341]

Redphase, sir, can you keep us in the loop when, through any discussions with Trance via pms, you get to the point of understanding more and whether your initial concerns have subsided?

 

[RedPhase]

I wish some posters hadn't tried to troll him and preemptively dismiss him, I think we might have learnt a bit more of the nitty gritty of how an actual slot program works. he mentioned something about jackpots being controlled in his first posts but never revisited that point





regarding the balance issue he was particularly interested in, does the server need to know your balance if prior to the result of the spin the game takes the price of the spin? I've noticed there's often a slight delay before pressing spin and the spin cost being deducted from your balance.

So it could be 1. server checks balance 2. server actions rng 3. stake cost removed from balance 4. result of rng displayed. If that is roughly the order maybe it doesn't need action (1) if it removes the cost of the spin first? (3)

[ You can tell I would've never have got me foot in the door of a computer programming lesson ]

Pardon the absence, I've been busy with real life.

I am not out of the loop and have had splendid exchanges with @trancemonkey over Skype.

The status quo is, that most of my findings were based on clients side code, but server side research has presented itself as an opportunity as well and that's what I am currently spending my time on.

As of now, there is no way to point to a particular section, supporting my theories/claims, but questions arises the more it's being looked into.

Some discussions address the nature of RNG, is it truly RNG, when a certain RTP is promised and how does it achieve that.
Other discussions address the structure of code assembly ensuring the calculations are done across multiple servers for multiple game sessions.

And lastly some applications of math functions, that on the surface serves to support reel weighting and multiple reel sets, seem purposefully situational, to the degree of it being difficult to dismiss, whether or not, it could impact outcomes equally if the algorithm seeds and starting points were identical with each application load and or spin.

 

[RedPhase]

Redphase, sir, can you keep us in the loop when, through any discussions with Trance via pms, you get to the point of understanding more and whether your initial concerns have subsided?

I most certainly will. None of the replies on here, have been interpreted as willfully mean or trolling, and I have to agree with everyone, asking questions, that it IS important to be absolutely certain on the science of this. That is a fair approach, and albeit, the conversation is interesting to have in general, I would like to dedicate my time to also add more "meat" and concise data to it.

 

[mack341]

Pardon the absence, I've been busy with real life.

I am not out of the loop and have had splendid exchanges with @trancemonkey over Skype.

The status quo is, that most of my findings were based on clients side code, but server side research has presented itself as an opportunity as well and that's what I am currently spending my time on.

As of now, there is no way to point to a particular section, supporting my theories/claims, but questions arises the more it's being looked into.

Some discussions address the nature of RNG, is it truly RNG, when a certain RTP is promised and how does it achieve that.
Other discussions address the structure of code assembly ensuring the calculations are done across multiple servers for multiple game sessions.

And lastly some applications of math functions, that on the surface serves to support reel weighting and multiple reel sets, seem purposefully situational, to the degree of it being difficult to dismiss, whether or not, it could impact outcomes equally if the algorithm seeds and starting points were identical with each application load and or spin.

Ah cool man pleased about this, and no worries about the time; we might not understand everything but if we get to improve our knowledge a bit it'll still be worth it, and with your programming/computer coding expertise and knowledge you can discuss things with Trance at a deeper level than we can

 

[nutnut]

well if it is a compensated slot, bonanza owes me a lot. Can someone remind BGT my compensation is overly due.

I love how casinos send you 100% deposit offers on accounts with deposit limit in set knowing you can't take the offer. I.E Hellocasino sent me 100% offer but have to deposit £100 or more, my daily limit is set at £50. How is this responsible gambling urging a player to change his deposit limits for 1 off promo.

 

[goatwack]

well if it is a compensated slot, bonanza owes me a lot. Can someone remind BGT my compensation is overly due.

I love how casinos send you 100% deposit offers on accounts with deposit limit in set knowing you can't take the offer. I.E Hellocasino sent me 100% offer but have to deposit £100 or more, my daily limit is set at £50. How is this responsible gambling urging a player to change his deposit limits for 1 off promo.

Now I know you've lost your marbles. No casino sends 100% offers

 

[nutnut]

Now I know you've lost your marbles. No casino sends 100% offers

They do when you have lost as much as me funny thing is while back when i made a few back to back withdrawals they stopped sending me anything for a long time. Then after I went on bad run they now turned back up. Vultures!

Im so sick of gambling im one or two more deposits from stopping for a while. I know I have said this before, but their always IS a breaking point in which you will only accept so much losing on the bounce. Not even just bonanza I have dabbled on others and I accept long term you will be down, but one can only lose so much on the trot before they spit it away.

my deposits are back down to £20/£50 and £1/£2 only stakes. but no play time, no cash outs, no bonuses. I need some excitement back!

 

[snorky510238]

Catching a slot red hot seems almost impossible nowadays. The best you can hope for is one decent hit and run.

The days of going on crazy winning streaks have gone, for me anyway. There are just so many dreadful bonus rounds to wade through in the slender hope you hit one good one.

There is something I can’t get away from in bonus rounds and I don’t think using multiple reel strips has anything to do with it and that is that within the first couple of spins the tone is set for round. Obviously even though I have been told different it seems predetermined.

Unless say there are 10 different reel strips Bonanza picks from when you trigger the bonus. 5 being utter trash, 3 paying up to x100, 1 paying up to x1,000 and 1 paying unlimited. (example only).

From what I am starting to understand this would qualify as random. Beats me how but then the simple fact they can use weighted and multiple reels and call it random defies the principle meaning of the word.

I mean where do they draw the line (obviously they don’t but hypothetically). The reels could be (and surely are stacked)to make that dream win all but impossible. Yet it’s deemed ‘fair’ to not have to tell players the true odds. I just don’t get that.

 

[brianmon]

Catching a slot red hot seems almost impossible nowadays. The best you can hope for is one decent hit and run.

The days of going on crazy winning streaks have gone, for me anyway. There are just so many dreadful bonus rounds to wade through in the slender hope you hit one good one.

There is something I can’t get away from in bonus rounds and I don’t think using multiple reel strips has anything to do with it and that is that within the first couple of spins the tone is set for round. Obviously even though I have been told different it seems predetermined.

Unless say there are 10 different reel strips Bonanza picks from when you trigger the bonus. 5 being utter trash, 3 paying up to x100, 1 paying up to x1,000 and 1 paying unlimited. (example only).

From what I am starting to understand this would qualify as random. Beats me how but then the simple fact they can use weighted and multiple reels and call it random defies the principle meaning of the word.

I mean where do they draw the line (obviously they don’t but hypothetically). The reels could be (and surely are stacked)to make that dream win all but impossible. Yet it’s deemed ‘fair’ to not have to tell players the true odds. I just don’t get that.

They won't even say what the biggest win they had was, while testing it.

 

[johnnymcc1966]

Nice Bonanza win today

 

[nutnut]

Tonight's session was so bad I got one bonus which was x12.

So that's me on a mini break.

Too sum up how shit my luck is I accidentally deposited 540 when i meant to do 40. Obv withdrawn the difference but that was a cue for me.

 

[sufferinsilence]

540 could've gone 8 quid spins

 

[nutnut]

540 could've gone 8 quid spins

Honestly a small devil in me was tempted and reality of days and days of deposits gone in minutes and worse run ever made me see sense.

I defo think less people are playing and slots become tight when they do as everyone with brain cell has switched to DOA

 

[paul7388]

Still do not get the fascination of Bonanza.

Yeah it is a good slot and i like the gameplay and it can be exciting.

But people keep playing it for these big wins that are not going to come. Okay there are shots here where people have won 4 grand on a £4 spin. But on other slots that would have been so much more.

DOA2 has totally wiped out Bonanzas best win several times in a couple of days . Jammin Jar's , Genie Jackpot's Megaways and a few others have provided well over what Bonanza has produced yet it has been out years.

Even yesterday i hit a 4680x stake win on Fruit Blox. Okay it was only a 10p stake as it was one free spin i had from WH that i was not even going to spin. But i won't complain about £468 for nothing lol. But how many wins of over 4000x have been posted here on Bonanza even on minimum bet.

Yet here we are 409 pages in and still people are saying how bad Bonanza is yet all are still playing it. It should be becoming clear by now if you want a once in a lifetime hit then this is not the slot to pick.

 

[mack341]

Tonight's session was so bad I got one bonus which was x12.

So that's me on a mini break.

Too sum up how shit my luck is I accidentally deposited 540 when i meant to do 40. Obv withdrawn the difference but that was a cue for me.

sounds like you were starting to suffer from the wallet destroying disease bonanzaritis, but you've just managed to nip it in the bud

 

[mack341]

Still do not get the fascination of Bonanza.

Yeah it is a good slot and i like the gameplay and it can be exciting.

But people keep playing it for these big wins that are not going to come. Okay there are shots here where people have won 4 grand on a £4 spin. But on other slots that would have been so much more.

DOA2 has totally wiped out Bonanzas best win several times in a couple of days . Jammin Jar's , Genie Jackpot's Megaways and a few others have provided well over what Bonanza has produced yet it has been out years.

Even yesterday i hit a 4680x stake win on Fruit Blox. Okay it was only a 10p stake as it was one free spin i had from WH that i was not even going to spin. But i won't complain about £468 for nothing lol. But how many wins of over 4000x have been posted here on Bonanza even on minimum bet.

Yet here we are 409 pages in and still people are saying how bad Bonanza is yet all are still playing it. It should be becoming clear by now if you want a once in a lifetime hit then this is not the slot to pick.

That was an amazing win with one spin, I do that WH prize wheel and normally curse it when it lands on the 1 free spin, feels like a w.hill insult designed to troll players, but you had the last laugh with that one

 

[paul7388]

That was an amazing win with one spin, I do that WH prize wheel and normally curse it when it lands on the 1 free spin, feels like a w.hill insult designed to troll players, but you had the last laugh with that one

Lol did you see my screenshot then.

Yeah some days I don't even bother playing the 1 spin.

Best bit was i was up at like half 5 on Saturday morning. Gave up trying to sleep. Then decided i would put football bets on early and went on WH to deposit. Spun vegas wheel and went not 1 spin on Fruit Blox again lol. Then went sod it will play the spin before i deposit. Then rest is history couldn't believe 1 spin would pay so much. Had good wins on freebies before but never as much as £468 on one 10p spin.

 

[mack341]

Lol did you see my screenshot then.

Yeah some days I don't even bother playing the 1 spin.

Best bit was i was up at like half 5 on Saturday morning. Gave up trying to sleep. Then decided i would put football bets on early and went on WH to deposit. Spun vegas wheel and went not 1 spin on Fruit Blox again lol. Then went sod it will play the spin before i deposit. Then rest is history couldn't believe 1 spin would pay so much. Had good wins on freebies before but never as much as £468 on one 10p spin.

yeah I did yesterday night I think I was logged out, and it was way past my bedtime to post a reply and you just mentioning it jolted my memory. I think it's the game choice that's a bugger too, I played the wheel the same night and got 5 free spins and chose the ninja game got a big fat zilch, if only I'd gone with fruit blox, it sounds like a game that'll never pay 4000x, just shows you can't tell with red tiger games. I keep thinking if I choose the same slot every time to use the free spins on, I might get lucky yet

 

[paul7388]

yeah I did yesterday night I think I was logged out, and it was way past my bedtime to post a reply and you just mentioning it jolted my memory. I think it's the game choice that's a bugger too, I played the wheel the same night and got 5 free spins and chose the ninja game got a big fat zilch, if only I'd gone with fruit blox, it sounds like a game that'll never pay 4000x, just shows you can't tell with red tiger games. I keep thinking if I choose the same slot every time to use the free spins on, I might get lucky yet

Never even knew i could choose game lol. If i did i would never pick Fruit Blox.

Played it a few times before for real money but never won much. But i saw the potential in that spin. Could potentially pay well more.

The free spins i got triggered with 4 spins. Normally that pays nothing. But first spin i got retrigger and gave another 18 spins. Also turns another symbol wild. Got another retrigger so by that time 3 symbols were wild. So could imagine what it would pay like if another couple of wild symbols.

One spin alone had loads of wilds and paid about £250. But even after that win i probably won't play it again as don't like the game.

 

[snorky510238]

Agreed if you want the once in a lifetime hit there are other slots that are more likely to produce it. What you have to take into account is for all these big wins we see on HV slots there will be countless fruitless sessions for hundreds of people. Games like the original DOA have bonus rounds that occasionally pay the big one but there is very rarely anything in between it’s either x25 or less or a monster.

Bonanza has a far greater range so no the hits may not always be huge but it will pay a lot more around the x300 - x500 than a lot of other slots. Plus it has a very decent base game which makes it much more sustainable to play than most games.

Played it at 6 different casinos using the strategy I have mentioned often in this thread. I made 2 other deposits that lost.