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steveh35

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So BTG are you saying you could have infinite mulitpliers surely there must be some limit to the mulitplier you can't seriously be saying if you kept getting a win you could have a million x multiplier. There must be some limit to what you can win if it is genuinely unlimited will BTG/casino payout on a million x multipliers of diamonds if the freak event occured?
 

Jono777

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Rare I do RAGE over slots these days, normally just a gentle "Oh, piss off!" upon bust and on to other things...

However, after several losing sessions and no 'L' never mind the D, this piece of filth (almost wanna use the 'C' word here) turns me from mild mannered Mr M into screaming raving lunatic!!! - FUCK OFF Bonanza!

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nikantw

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So BTG are you saying you could have infinite mulitpliers surely there must be some limit to the mulitplier you can't seriously be saying if you kept getting a win you could have a million x multiplier. There must be some limit to what you can win if it is genuinely unlimited will BTG/casino payout on a million x multipliers of diamonds if the freak event occured?
Let me explain.....
No new information. He will never say the odds as long as he doesn't have to. That is it. The chance for a 5000x win is smaller than in Donuts (that is what he meant with "Donuts has bigger potential").
The chance for a 5000x in Bonanza is probably the same with the chance to win the 5,000,000 Mega Moolah jackpot.

Any win over 15000x is outside of the RTP calculation. It doesn't effect it. Do you understand what that means?
It means there is super super small chance for that (like Trump becoming the Pope).
But it also gives creative freedom to the programmer to postpone such events far in the future (exactly because it doesn't effect the RTP).
That last one is just a theory of mine, but I don't see any other way a casino would be protected from such a crazy win.
If you are BTG and a casino asks you "is there a chance for a freak win in the first day?" you can't just say "yes but it is small". But you can say "don't worry, it won't happen before you have made enough money to pay for it 10 times". ;)
 

TimArmstrong

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Rare I do RAGE over slots these days, normally just a gentle "Oh, piss off!" upon bust and on to other things...

However, after several losing sessions and no 'L' never mind the D, this piece of filth (almost wanna use the 'C' word here) turns me from mild mannered Mr M into screaming raving lunatic!!! - FUCK OFF Bonanza!

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I had this yesterday... same stakes, even got extra spins. Paid 1.50 eur. F. Off.
 

nutnut

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Thought give it a bash today, usual happened quick losses down 30 but chucked 10 into ladbrokes got 12 and 17 spins got to 100 thought play down to 80 and hit load of red diamonds weird thing was, was only first 4 reels covered in diamonds yet it paid this...
 

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nutnut

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Cashed out 400 last night but best thing is I'm over being hooked. Week off was best thing ever.

Now if i play I chuck 10 or 20 and if busy turn off and if I do win like last night it makes me stop even quicker as I know chance of repeating wins is zero. Since I drop in and out every few days it feels more random. Rather than playing it daily for hours realising what a filthy slot it is
 

mack341

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Cashed out 400 last night but best thing is I'm over being hooked. Week off was best thing ever.

Now if i play I chuck 10 or 20 and if busy turn off and if I do win like last night it makes me stop even quicker as I know chance of repeating wins is zero. Since I drop in and out every few days it feels more random. Rather than playing it daily for hours realising what a filthy slot it is
I was going to say this the other day, having played it less for the last month, I was able to tell more easily if it was playing badly and I had better results. I found if you play it everyday you lose your bearings, it is a very 'intensely addictive' slot so I think the safest and most enjoyable way of playing it is in short doses and maybe only once or twice a week.

Plus if your ahead with a good win, it is easier to have a little go now and then and leave, but when I was thousands down I had the urge to chase my losses on it [playing on after getting a reasonable bonus only for bonanza to take it straight back]. And with a game that has a bonus frequency of 1 in 450, that's not a wise idea.
 
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goatwack

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Makes me wince how much I've lost on the likes of Bonanza recently, having taken a step back and looking at it objectively (coupled with a two-month slot banishment) I'd much rather focus on my first love, namely video games/ computing than spend £100 chasing some mythical D, only to be rogered with a substandard bonus round :cool:

I love the game of course, but it sucks you in where losing on it becomes normalized. That is BTG's biggest strength I feel, although playing it long enough will inevitably end with the player either out of pocket or fed up with it!

I daren't calculate how much I'm quids- in by not playing it for what seems an eternity :laugh:
 

mack341

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Makes me wince how much I've lost on the likes of Bonanza recently, having taken a step back and looking at it objectively (coupled with a two-month slot banishment) I'd much rather focus on my first love, namely video games/ computing than spend £100 chasing some mythical D, only to be rogered with a substandard bonus round :cool:

I love the game of course, but it sucks you in where losing on it becomes normalized. That is BTG's biggest strength I feel, although playing it long enough will inevitably end with the player either out of pocket or fed up with it!

I daren't calculate how much I'm quids- in by not playing it for what seems an eternity :laugh:
me too, I'm battening down the hatches with my slot play, going to restrict myself for about 5 months. I could have had a new top of the range pc rather than the 4gig ram, dual core intel I'm still using.

In the future when I come back to slots I might up the stake level but reduce the number or length of sessions, low rolling for hours you can lose a substantial amount of money while at the same time never really having much of a chance of increasing your balance.

I might go back to an idea of doing say 50 spins at minimum and then increasing the stake, did this on book of ra once and I got a 500x win not long after raising my stake to 80p [an unheard of level of risk for me normally]
 
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nutnut

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lost 40 tonight but m happy as i walked away. had zillions GOL with massive cascade drops and not one bonus. in past id lose 200/300 chasing the bonus that wont come but walked away.
 

nikantw

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It is time for the final verdict on the question: What is the potential of Bonanza?

Some if not most think it has jackpot-like potential, but that is not true.
Officially best and only answer was "your chance of a huge win is the same as Donald Trump becoming the next Pope".

Mathematically it is proven that any wins over 14000x are so rare that they have no real impact on the RTP.
All casinos have been reassured by BTG that a monster win will never happen (I wonder how they can make sure of that).

Blueprint uses the same math on its Megaways and is more honest about it with a cap on 5000x win. This means that in Bonanza also any wins over 5000x are extremely rare.
Latest BTG interview: "Donuts has bigger potential than Bonanza".

After all that it is safe to say that the true potential of Bonanza is only 5000x.

If you are looking for something bigger you should play another slot.
Enough is enough with the half-truths and the vague misleading statements. UKGC and MGA should force them to tell the truth about the odds for a specific win.
At least we should provide that info here at CM. If BTG wants they can say what the odds are for a specific win over 5000x. No more vague misleading statements or jokes.
Or I could be wrong by 100%.
VS has the cap on Diamond Mine at 2,500x bet win! That means, the chance for any win over 2,500x is so small that it doesn't affect the RTP, otherwise what VS does would be illegal.
Now it is probably safe to assume Diamond Mine has the same math with Bonanza. That would mean that the true potential of Bonanza is only 2,500x.

Unless VS is accidentally doing something illegal.
 

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