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...but maybe the affiliates and watchdogs could have been more pro-active.
How so?
What could Affiliates or watchdogs have done better, in your opinion?
...but maybe the affiliates and watchdogs could have been more pro-active.
I said "maybe" and not sure my opinion is necessarily relevant or has even been given a great deal of thought so feel free to disregard....I will say that at least CM has said time and time again that US players play at their own risk (often and still ignored) specifically pursuant to payments and other issues. I realize this is a warning as far as I know specific to US players only and not specifically to Bodog but a relevant warning nonetheless...Furthermore, since Sept.30,2006 I never for one saw a flashing Bodog banner at the CM site. Other than that, I am not sure CM could do much else....Does the same hold true for some other well known watchdogs, affiliates,etc.(The Wizard of Odds) sites?(re: banner ads-maybe they were only intended for non-US players)...............like I said I really have not given your question enough thought.How so?
What could Affiliates or watchdogs have done better, in your opinion?
One of my primary pointsCM can hold its head up high.
Not so Major Wager, EOG, and Sportsbook Review, where I am banned for saying pretty much the same sort of stuff in this thread.
Major Wager and EOG both run Bodog banners. Still do, even when you'd have to be wilfully blind to believe Bodog has any kind of a future now. SBR continues to rate Bodog as an "A" even though it has been bouncing cheques and takes a month or more to get your money back to you when you request it.
CM can hold its head up high.
Not so Major Wager, EOG, and Sportsbook Review, where I am banned for saying pretty much the same sort of stuff in this thread.
Major Wager and EOG both run Bodog banners. Still do, even when you'd have to be wilfully blind to believe Bodog has any kind of a future now. SBR continues to rate Bodog as an "A" even though it has been bouncing cheques and takes a month or more to get your money back to you when you request it.
My take:
Bodog will not just disappear because of a lawsuit, even if it was for $30 squidrillion. You don't get to their status without being smart. I'm sure "Newbodog" isn't just a temporary getaround. If a lawsuit closes down a company of that size, it can follow several paths, just one being to declare bankruptcy and start over ( with a new name ). Damaged of course, but not dead.
Clearly that will upset some people, but that's the way it is - every successful company treads on toes and has detractors. If they have infringed a patent like they alledgedly have, I would like to see them quite rightly slapped down for that, but still there, as they are one of the few RTGs who seem to treat their players properly.
Paddy: while your posts are interesting, why on earth would you want to go round all these forums saying the same thing over and over? I don't get that. You say it isn't, but it does come over like you have a grudge.
Some, such as your good self, seem to take what he says as the truth. I hope that is a mistake you stop making very soon.
... my real name is Paddy Roberts and I stand 100% behind what I say....
Not quite what I said or implied. I'm not bothered about how well they do, how much money they make, or how many players they have. All I know is that as a player they treat you pretty well.
Neither do I assume they will survive the lawsuit - they may or may not. What I am implying is that even if they don't, they will probably be back under another guise, whether that is as "Newbodog" or another brand I have no idea. I believe an old dog can learn new tricks
I realize you clearly state "My take" and respectfully understood.......... Markets analysts were stating the same as you do in your bolded quote just a few days before the complete collapse of ENRON, WORLDCOM,ADELPHIA,ETC. which were all driven basically overnight to the grave once the rampant fraud became exposed to the public. Humm, Calvin may know a little something about securities fraud. Just fodder for thought, ultimately time(and me thinks US) will determine the final outcome.......Well duh,NASHMy take:
Bodog will not just disappear because of a lawsuit, even if it was for $30 squidrillion. You don't get to their status without being smart. I'm sure "Newbodog" isn't just a temporary getaround. If a lawsuit closes down a company of that size, it can follow several paths, just one being to declare bankruptcy and start over ( with a new name ). Damaged of course, but not dead.
Clearly that will upset some people, but that's the way it is - every successful company treads on toes and has detractors. If they have infringed a patent like they alledgedly have, I would like to see them quite rightly slapped down for that, but still there, as they are one of the few RTGs who seem to treat their players properly.
Paddy: while your posts are interesting, why on earth would you want to go round all these forums saying the same thing over and over? I don't get that. You say it isn't, but it does come over like you have a grudge.
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P.S. You can 'fix' that page if anything is erroneous
Good read, fwiw, I think it should be noted that the article in the above link was dated April 2007..........also, fwiw,I found the Carruthers/BoS story included in the article intriguing..............but most importantly could not help but click on the Titans-Jaguars game linkHere's another perspective on the Bloc BC article on Calvin Ayre and the troubles Bodog is facing.
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Unfortunately, it appears to concentrate more on the author of the Bloc BC article than the Lewis patent issue and does not directly address many of the factual claims made by "Paddy" regarding the impact of the 1st Technologies' case against Bodog.
That would have made an interesting alternative perspective, and "tit-for-tat" exchanges on a personal level are rarely palatable or constructive.
Bodog still seems to be maintaining silence on this issue, which could be a serious error of judgement. Perhaps their lawyers are talking to Dr. Lewis's lawyers - that appears to be one option for settling this issue.
Good read, fwiw, I think it should be noted that the article in the above link was dated April 2007..........also, fwiw,I found the Carruthers/BoS story included in the article intriguing..............but most importantly could not help but click on the Titans-Jaguars game link
Not exactly sure how to take this, maybe our points are the same, with mine being the timelime of Jensen's article precedes the domain issue timeline relative to forum postings. If nothing else, that seems to lend some creditibility to your views and knowledge of the past and present Ayre/NewBodog,jmo.........Of course, some can and will also reasonably argue the timeline means nothing. I hope I understood your prior post and vice-versa on my prior post.And, fwiw, I've been trying to track down point-spreads and this Thomas Jensen dick ever since that article to serve him with a libel suit, but he seems to be very hard to pinpoint.
Fortunately, he just libelled another guy a few days ago and that guy has the money to find him, so maybe it'll all work out.
Not exactly sure how to take this, maybe our points are the same, with mine being the timelime of Jensen's article precedes the domain issue timeline relative to forum postings. If nothing else, that seems to lend some creditibility to your views and knowledge of the past and present Ayre/NewBodog,jmo.........Of course, some can and will also reasonably argue the timeline means nothing. I hope I understood your prior post and vice-versa on my prior post.
Very insightful read from Bill's Poker Blog.Bodog / NewBodog Is Just The Beginning
August 30, 2007 @ 7:22 am Filed under Poker, Poker News, Online Poker, Is Online Poker Legal?
"I may do a more in-depth post at some point in the future but I think the thing many people are missing in all this Bodog/NewBodog mess is that this is an interesting legal tactic that will likely be used again in the future. 1st Technology LLC sued to have Bodogs domain names rendered useless. Many people have speculated that is because they used a US based registrar. Im guessing that those people are wrong.
It doesnt matter if Bodog used ENOM, GoDaddy or some Costa Rican based registrar because the people who handle domain name disputes are the folks at ICANN. Its not even a .com thing since ICANN basically has some sort of control over every top level domain (TLD) in use on the internet.
ICANN is a difficult to describe entity since they are technically a non-profit corporation but they act on behalf of the US government to handle tasks previously performed by the federal government. They basically renew their contract with the US Dept. of Commerce for the rights to manage the worlds internet traffic.
Now, if the implications of this havent started to settle in let me draw up a scenario for you. Louisiana sues XYZPoker.com for $100 million in unpaid tax revenue. XYZPoker.com who is located in some gambling friendly jurisdiction either refuses to submit itself to the court or tries to defend itself and loses. Either they cough up the $100 million or Louisiana can go to ICANN and demand that they turn off all domains owned by XYZPoker.com as a form of payment and to prevent any further violation of tax laws.
How about this; US DOJ points a finger at UB and says that they are in violation of the UIGEA and files against them. They convict UB of violations of the UIGEA and get a court order for ICANN to turn off all known UB owned domains.
Starting to see the picture"
Once again, that's quite a tailspin!
@ Paddy.
I posted that link because it was relevant to your allegations against Ayre and Bodog and represents an alternative perspective, which imo is rarely a bad thing, especially when emotions are running high and personal attacks of this intensity are being launched.
As I wrote in my post, I think it would have been more interesting and informative had the ad hominem attacks been kept to a minimum and the facts of the 1st Technologies case examined in more detail. In this latter respect I think your post did the better job, although the enmity toward Ayre was distracting.
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"The violation relates to the Method for the production and transmission of enhanced multimedia information.
"An optimization method is disclosed that enhances the interactivity of multimedia information. The optimization method includes separating a multimedia information into primary and secondary layers and enhancing that information in the primary layers such that the perceived psychographic information quality is improved. This method has the advantage of providing compression and/or transmission algorithms to maximize enhancement of the multimedia information."
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