Biggest win with one spin at N1 Casino by Roshtein

[Playford7]

Sick? Sick?? You getting down with the modern lingo now old chap!

Haha he will be saying ‘innit’ next

 

[Playford7]

Well that begs even more questions, perhaps the most pertinent one being why would any casino allow someone to take a profit such as that on top of affiliate earnings.

Also, that type of betting is not setting a realistic picture of slots play to anyone. No casual player is going to get those terms.

It’s frankly as dodgy as hell. Not to mention beyond in bad taste regarding responsible gambling. Shameful tbh

 

[sueyh]

I trust homerbert, just I'm not sure 2600 x bet size win deserves it's own thread.

 

[Playford7]

I trust homerbert, just I'm not sure 2600 x bet size win deserves it's own thread.

This clown doesn’t deserve his own thread. Never mind the pointless win.
I find this more offensive than anything posted on CM ever.
It’s beyond immoral

 

[Scott1baird]

Not realistic unless they are trying to pull the big boys in, by that I mean the proper players the billionaires who can do this without bonuses. That's why they promote him, what's a few hundred thousand a day lose to an oil tycoon? Nothing that's what. That's where the big money comes in, if I ran a casino I would hire four or five roshtiens to promote it. Hate him or like him he gets the JOB done. And it is a job.

 

[PaaskeDenmark]

I actually do like this guy Rohstein and dont find him as bad as many thinks.

I had the same opinions when I first lurked at a couple of streams and really disliked him but after seeing his ups and downs also losing. Also saw he had some mental problems etc he was open about it and talked about it.

Then I actually started like him and watched many streams. (mostly because i find him funny not so much because I trust 100% or support everything he does)

He is actually a really funny guy and makes hilarious scenes with his background and green screen can't take that away from him.

Also, he does speak loudly about being careful and don't make big bets like me etc. But yes I agree it's not responsible at all.

To post a promotion post like this advertising oh look how great we had a big winner is disgusting marketing. No wonder you had a big winner when he smashes through millions on slots weekly or monthly.

I hope this news story has not been posted many places, as it's very bad with such high stakes and should be banned by Gambling commission UKGC.

And it is wrong by all means someone doing €50 winning that amount is only going to cause more gambling addictive problems for vulnerable people thinking they can do the same ( BUT i know this is exactly what you hope for lure more people in this way sadly enough)

 

[Mr_Slot5]

Not realistic unless they are trying to pull the big boys in, by that I mean the proper players the billionaires who can do this without bonuses. That's why they promote him, what's a few hundred thousand a day lose to an oil tycoon? Nothing that's what. That's where the big money comes in, if I ran a casino I would hire four or five roshtiens to promote it. Hate him or like him he gets the JOB done. And it is a job.

Yes, but how many oil tycoons are going to be sat watching Twitch all day? In essence he's using a sledgehammer to crack a nut. A big proportion of his twitch viewers will be vulnerable people; people with no job, mental issues such as anxiety and depression etc.

I know the Twitch demographic well. I'm a moderator on several channels and often see talk in chat and people private messaging me saying slots have ruined them.

I guess at the end of the day it's an ethical choice you make and for the vast majority, the money talks the loudest.

 

[mack341]

just watched that video now, it was pretty bad, playing slots is meant to be a bit of harmless fun

There was a big release of pent up anger, and I guess relief, in the shouting. Then manic laughter He said something about 'three hours' but I couldn't quite make it out, maybe he'd been playing high stakes for 3 hours or even just that mahjong slot game?

I'm gonna say I think he's pushing himself to the edge and being used by the casinos, if as Paaske states he's discussed his mental problems on stream, I have to question even more the wisdom of such high stake gambling. I don't want to see anyone out of a job or being stopped from doing something they enjoy, but I do think at some point common sense and moderation have got to come in before things go too far...

 

[mack341]

just watched that video now, it was pretty bad, playing slots is meant to be a bit of harmless fun

There was a big release of pent up anger, and I guess relief, in the shouting. Then manic laughter He said something about 'three hours' but I couldn't quite make it out, maybe he'd been playing high stakes for 3 hours or even just that mahjong slot game?

I'm gonna say I think he's pushing himself to the edge and being used by the casinos, if as Paaske states he's discussed his mental problems on stream, I have to question even more the wisdom of such high stake gambling. I don't want to see anyone out of a job or being stopped from doing something they enjoy, but I do think at some point common sense and moderation have got to come in before things go too far...

I wanted to edit my own post above to say 'past mental health problems' rather than imply ongoing problems. [ I think an episode of depression or anxiety does leave you though more vulnerable to it returning.]

Just looked at Roshtein's twitch channel, some very long video stream lengths of 9 hrs, 11hrs, 12hrs, but also some shorter ones 3-6 hrs.
I suppose this could depend on how much wagering he's attempting to complete.

I had a look at the 12hr stream, quite a lot of $10 spins and he had 4 games on the go all at once doing a bonus hunt, this lasted 6 hours and then he played single games after that for the last 6 hrs. I don't think anybody could do more than this without somehow harming their health, plus reading and replying to a live chat feed. I counted 11 streams in the last 22 days

If this pattern is consistent over most of a working year, that is a enormous amount of high stakes gambling.

 

[sufferinsilence]

All fine and dandy but I've tried this game, on a more reasonable 40c stake, and I didn't have a single "big win"-animation in over an hour of play. How does one even get 2500x

 

[ESCJAMIE]

Well I got a 250x from 10p spin winning £25 earlier Not the kind of money as this but still lol

 

[nutnut]

Really are we suppose to be tempted ANOTHER streamer hitting a big win at 50 a spin.

I dont care how much money you have but betting stoke stakes is sick and frankly disgusting.

One casino I'll never touch, responsible gambling? Lol

 

[SlotGrinder]

His reactions seem so fake . He's the only streamer who has to make you follow and wait 30 minutes before posting and then will instaban you if you mention anything about it being fake money
One time he closed his stream because literally everyone was spamming his stream asking for deposits/withdrawals to be shown and he couldn't . Back in the days where all his "highstakes play" was on multilotto - a casino wit virtually no providers and no reputation and a casino well known for approaching other streamers with offers of fake money accounts in exchange for affiliate earnings lololol
He was 100% fake
If he now somehow manages to play on real money after faking it for years then tbh I don't care . He still seems fake to me and even if I had 100% proof he was legit I'd still think he was a scumbag for being a faker for so long
Not only that I find him boring and annoying too . Stop shouting ffs

 

[Mr_Slot5]

The thing is, at the beginning it's damn hard (and mega costly) to stream slots play... Unless you're happy to grind 20p and 40p stakes. Unfortunately bigger stakes attract more viewers and so for some streamers, I guess they realised initial 'fake money' play would be more economically viable. They'd be correct- build up your affiliate income without any liability to your own finances. A no brainer financially but massively ethically questionable. This way there's also less liability for the casino because they don't have to pay out winnings as often as they would on a generous +EV bonus.

Once enough affiliate income rolls in, you can do as you please. The thing is once you've set the stakes so high initially, you can't then fall back to £5 bets.

As I said in an earlier post, you make a decision early on, the ethical way or the lucrative way.

 

[bamberfishcake]

Just watched this video before reading comments and think my 5 year old acts better when she lies to me. I see straight through that as well. Mannequin Skywalker would have done a better job. Looks to me like he's thinking 'damn, wish this was mine' while he's grinning through his teeth.

If it is true though, good luck to him.

 

[EkJR]

Guy must be smashing a few lines of gear a day as well. Some of his "fans" are fucking brainwashed lunatics as well. The guy is the definition of irresponsible gambling, a beacon for it. That's why casinos like N1 and They Who Shalt Not Be Named S Vegas like him

 

[EkJR]

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Sweet Jesus...Is this the new way to con people into losing their money?

 

[EkJR]

Hey guys

Predictable reaction for such a thread

Okie, I just want to step in and confirm:

1) Roshtein do not play with fake money (he make deposits with our bonuses, yes, but it not fake money and it was never a case for N1 casino(no idea about other brands, I can confirm only with ours)).

2) Winnings legit and it is regular practice that Roshtein win something and withdraw it.

You can continue any holywar, it's up to you folks

Br,

V.

Ah well, that's that cleared up then! He is obviously not a fake because the rep for the casino group says so, I'm won over.....

 

[SpinUk]

I once did some sums. Based on 5 hrs play, 5 days a week at £20 a spin, a 96% RTP game would give an average yearly loss in the 100s of thousands (and that's at £20 stake). Sure, bonuses can offset this somewhat but still...

Limitless 50% bonuses on a high variance games would see him in massive profit, regardless of wagering.

Thats why I refuse to belive he is allowed to keep all his winnings with no cap as well as receiving his affiliate income.

 

[trancemonkey]

As someone who spends many threads defending the industry, I personally hate stuff like this. It is soooo irresponsible. It encourages high stakes gambling at levels only 0.001% of population of the world could even get close to.

Yes, I've seen people in the US stream higher stake wins live in casinos, but at least we know they aren't getting bonuses and kick-backs and God knows what. Even Nick slots is getting higher and higher with bets...

The UKGC will come after these eventually, mark my words. And they will likely over legislate and ruin it for everyone else...

 

[trancemonkey]

Guy must be smashing a few lines of gear a day as well. Some of his "fans" are fucking brainwashed lunatics as well. The guy is the definition of irresponsible gambling, a beacon for it. That's why casinos like N1 and They Who Shalt Not Be Named S Vegas like him

I reckon he does a line every 10 spins looking at him play!

 

[Casinomeister]

As someone who spends many threads defending the industry, I personally hate stuff like this. It is soooo irresponsible. It encourages high stakes gambling at levels only 0.001% of population of the world could even get close to.

Yes, I've seen people in the US stream higher stake wins live in casinos, but at least we know they aren't getting bonuses and kick-backs and God knows what. Even Nick slots is getting higher and higher with bets...

The UKGC will come after these eventually, mark my words. And they will likely over legislate and ruin it for everyone else...

Yeah - welcome to the 5 quid max bet on any game. Thanks to streamers like this - loads of folks may try the same sort of stunt and end up in an article by The Guardian. I give it about a year before this shit bites the casinos that endorse this in the ass.

 

[Casinomeister]

It's a new generation of gamblers now. Years ago no one would have even thought that people would want to watch some person play. But I guess that's the way it is now. No country for old men.

I am skeptical about the amount of viewers though. I have a good feeling what traffic is like in the online gaming industry. It seems to be a bit out of proportion to what is real. I know Twitch is primarily focused on video gamers - many of whom are under 18. Is this channel limited to certain age groups? If not, the folks at the Guardian would go ape shit over that.

 

[smart_croatia]

It's a new generation of gamblers now. Years ago no one would have even thought that people would want to watch some person play. But I guess that's the way it is now. No country for old men.

I am skeptical about the amount of viewers though. I have a good feeling what traffic is like in the online gaming industry. It seems to be a bit out of proportion to what is real. I know Twitch is primarily focused on video gamers - many of whom are under 18. Is this channel limited to certain age groups? If not, the folks at the Guardian would go ape shit over that.

90% of casino streamers have age control info where it says this stream is for 18+ years and you need to click ok and that is it you are good to watch

 

[trancemonkey]

Yeah - welcome to the 5 quid max bet on any game. Thanks to streamers like this - loads of folks may try the same sort of stunt and end up in an article by The Guardian. I give it about a year before this shit bites the casinos that endorse this in the ass.

This whole thing reminds me of the FOBT issues... the industry COULD have reduced the max stake to 20 quid themselves and ikely stopped the UKGC coming after them. A voluntary 80% reduction would have got good press, and barely hurt them. And now look what happened.

Online casinos NEED the high rollers... the majority of money comes from them. But if they continue to be visually irresponsible by endorsing people like Roshstein, and openly promoting him, they will absolutely come down on them.

If people want to stream at silly bets, there is very little that can be done to stop them, but they should NOT be affiliated with anyone betting over 5 or 10 pounds (or euros). It is just asking for trouble.

If they don't learn from the bookies mistakes in the UK, they will suffer badly.

There is just no reason to bet that high. . people will still watch streamers on 2 quid because they like watching gambling.

And to be honest, for N1 and @ladyhammer to come on and defend this kind of reckless play is shocking. Roshstein is CLEARLY not im control of his gambling... he has allegedly been bankrupt once before. But even if that is not true, the levels of gambling he displays are wholly irresponsible and for a casino to advertise £50 stakes is asking for trouble.

Self regulate guys, or you will have gambling commissions overreact at some point and your businesses will be dead.

Edit: Corrected casino rep user name... sorry Homerbert