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I went back a few pages trying to catch up on this thread, and couldn't find out which withdrawal method you are using....but I am puzzled by what you said was in the PM sent to you by Nicolas.

Tracking your withdrawal closely? Why not just pay you? Has it really come to this? Do these casinos actually have staff closely scrutinizing withdrawals...making sure they are paid on the 9th or 10th business day and not a moment sooner....just because that is the stated timeframe? Do they look at the withdrawals each day and say...."nope, this is only Mr. X's 8th business day, lets wait another day" Wouldn't it be easier to just pay them as they come instead of "tracking them" down to the last possible moment?

I have asked for my withdrawal to be paid via QT/UMW. My "take" on Nicolas' comment was that due to the cashier system upgrade payments have taken longer to process. He has been intervening on my behalf to ensue that I am paid within the stated timeframe for their site which is 7-10 business days.

That's all I know at this point.

Diane
 
I'm a frequent depositor at BP and have followed this link since the cashier/cash-out issue occured (I was unable to withdraw, no time frame issue) and I wonder; have BP also been unable to directly contact their members to inform them during this period?
I have not received any explanations or excuses anyway, and still not. Yesterday I received the usual promo mail but nothing about it there either. I expected some sort of explanation and/or excuse, "we'll do everything to prevent this from happening" or something, but nothing but standard phrases. I also certainly expected at least some small free chip, but nope, you have to deposit first.
You can of course argue that chat is available for inquires, did that once, will be fixed in 12 hrs, took about 5 more days. IMO the obvious thing to do is to send e-mail to members, if not possible, do it ASAP.
It's a good thing Nicolas answers questions quite promptly here and yes I think he's nice too. Just wish some of that reasurring info could have reached me as member by e-mail at some point when possible.


Have a nice weekend guys and gals :cheers:

As a businesswoman myself ----- the proper thing to do (IMO) would have been to send an email blast to all their customers with pending withdrawals explaining pro-actively the problem at the site, their efforts to rectify, and then ongoing communicaiton as it dragged on much longer than expected. Nothing strikes fear and unease more quickly and causes panic than a site that stops communicating effectively with its customers. When their is a problem is when communication is at its utmost level of importance. You shouldn't just go dark and stop explaiining. Live chat has been useless since my personal withdrawal experience began. They can't access records (they say). They don't know what stage of the withdrawal approval process my request is in. They recommend me to send emails to [email protected] - but no one responds to those emails. I ask to speak to someone, no one is available.

While the results haven't materialized yet and it is now the 10th business day since I made my withdrawal request, Nicolas has responded to every PM I (and apparently others have sent). His follow up is excellent, but I still do not have my money.

Diane
 
I received this email from "Trisha" at BetPhoenix yesterday.........
It rankled me to receive an email blast promoting the great wave of daily promotions.........yet as pointed out earlier in this thread, no one was able to contact their player based (or willing to do it) when there were problems. Who will deposit their without an assurance and proven record of taking care of their open withdrawal requests that are dating back to as long ok as 12/31 for one posted and back to 1/16 in my personal situation.

Diane
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No Pay Assholes

I wait since 19th dec for payout! I had sent my documents on the same day. I have use a 900% Bonus on 100 $ deposit. Had won over 8000 $. Terms was max. 10x cashout. Allright over 7000 $ removed. But my 1000$ i had never received. I had no played jackpot slots or tablegames. From [email protected] comes no answer. Why set Casinomeister this assholes not on the blacklist? Sorry forn my bad english.
 
I wait since 19th dec for payout! I had sent my documents on the same day. I have use a 900% Bonus on 100 $ deposit. Had won over 8000 $. Terms was max. 10x cashout. Allright over 7000 $ removed. But my 1000$ i had never received. I had no played jackpot slots or tablegames. From [email protected] comes no answer. Why set Casinomeister this assholes not on the blacklist? Sorry forn my bad english.

Well, not sure the phrase "a--holes" helps you much, but I understand your trustration. Have you tried more civil communication with their site or sending a PM to Nicolas?

Live chat told me that using [email protected] might get you a response sooner that using "payouts". You can give that a try.

Bad english or not (and your's isn't that hard to understand -- name calling doesn't make them want to help you much. Right now you need their cooperation until we all get past this mess.

FWIW.
Diane
 
Clearly, BP is in some kind of trouble. Has ANYONE PAB'ed? ....

Bryan, slow payment issue for you here... How are these members to proceed?

Nate

Officially - consistent with their terms, I won't be "slow" pay until tonight. This is business day #10 for me.

Also let Bryan, Max and the guys have their time at their get together this week in London, then someone who has been wating longer than me, can do the PAB or review that impacts a site's status on CM. IMO

Diane
 
As a businesswoman myself ----- the proper thing to do (IMO) would have been to send an email blast to all their customers with pending withdrawals explaining pro-actively the problem at the site, their efforts to rectify, and then ongoing communicaiton as it dragged on much longer than expected. Nothing strikes fear and unease more quickly and causes panic than a site that stops communicating effectively with its customers. When their is a problem is when communication is at its utmost level of importance. You shouldn't just go dark and stop explaiining. Live chat has been useless since my personal withdrawal experience began. They can't access records (they say). They don't know what stage of the withdrawal approval process my request is in. They recommend me to send emails to [email protected] - but no one responds to those emails. I ask to speak to someone, no one is available.

While the results haven't materialized yet and it is now the 10th business day since I made my withdrawal request, Nicolas has responded to every PM I (and apparently others have sent). His follow up is excellent, but I still do not have my money.

Diane

This is so true!
We've seen this with Rushmore lately, and Lock a while ago, all of a sudden there's a total lack in communication.
Just a simple mass email would do miracles.
It would also relieve the strain on the CS reps, livechat, those poor people who now have to take all the heat.
 
Update = Still no payout from BetPhoenix

Today is business day #10 since my request for withdrawal was made on 1/16

Nicolas indicated he was working closely to ensure I was paid before the due date. Unfortunately for me, that didn't happen.

I sent an email to Nicolas again last evening and one to "Sam" also. Haven't heard back from either since last night.

I called the listed phone number for BetPhoenix and asked to speak with someone in the Payouts department a few minutes ago and was told that "Sam" is the only one who handles these and that today was his day off. I was told to call him tomorrow Saturday after 2pm Eastern. I questioned whether payouts would be processed on a Saturday and woman answering phone said yes - but they have been backed up due to their "system upgrade".

Her final comment was "my best advice is to just call back tomorrow after 2pm and ask to speak with Sam."

So unless I hear from Nicolas or Sam before then, that's what I plan to do.

FWIW

Diane
 
Go Diane!!!

I love your proactiveness and 'can do' attitude :thumbsup:.

Us Brits would just stand in an orderly queue and wait to get shafted :D.

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Thanks, but I suspect other prolly think I am just a crazy lady with too much time on her hands. I also believe though in holding my ground when I know I am right. Sooner or later people come around -- or at least the good people do.

I *am* tenacious, that's for sure. I still don't think I am going to get "shafted" but I do believe staying on top of it daily until resolved is going to get me the best results. Right or wrong, I figured others here would want to know how this turned out as well.

We all need to stick together and share this stuff.

Diane
 
The sad fact is, whilst some go out of their way to highlight how 'helpful' the reps here have been, that NONE of it has resulted in ANYONE being paid any QUICKER if AT ALL.

The reality is that all Nicolas has been doing is giving you a running commentary on the 'screwing over' process.

Everyone is going to be paid when BP is good and ready and this has not, and will not,change .

I also think it's absolutely disgraceful that they are sending out 'all the issues are fixed' emails along with bonus offers to attract deposits.

Here's a thought Nicolas - forget about accepting money from players and START PAYING THEM!!
 
The sad fact is, whilst some go out of their way to highlight how 'helpful' the reps here have been, that NONE of it has resulted in ANYONE being paid any QUICKER if AT ALL.

The reality is that all Nicolas has been doing is giving you a running commentary on the 'screwing over' process.

Everyone is going to be paid when BP is good and ready and this has not, and will not,change .

I also think it's absolutely disgraceful that they are sending out 'all the issues are fixed' emails along with bonus offers to attract deposits.

Here's a thought Nicolas - forget about accepting money from players and START PAYING THEM!!
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Nifty -
You are being awfully "strong" on this topic for someone who I don't think has been personally harmed by BetPhoenix . As a BetPhoenix customer, I haven't hit "outrage" yet - but I am anxious to talk to Sam tomorrow.

Buyer beware is a constant for all of us who game online. I am sure you are trying to just reinforce that but you are hammering awfully hard.

Let's let it play out, ok? I will keep posting each step of the way until either I get paid or totally screwed. But right now, I am still planning to get paid.

Diane
 
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Nifty -
You are being awfully "strong" on this topic for someone who I don't think has been personally harmed by BetPhoenix . As a BetPhoenix customer, I haven't hit "outrage" yet - but I am anxious to talk to Sam tomorrow.

Buyer beware is a constant for all of us who game online. I am sure you are trying to just reinforce that but you are hammering awfully hard.

Let's let it play out, ok? I will keep posting each step of the way until either I get paid or totally screwed. But right now, I am still planning to get paid.

Diane

...and herein lies the problem.

You will get what you settle for - not what you deserve. There are far better casinos who also have nice managers who pay quickly.

You've waited 10 business days and still not been paid.

Make no mistake Diane - you've already been screwed.

I'm interested when ANYONE gets screwed by a casino, and so should you.
 
The sad fact is, whilst some go out of their way to highlight how 'helpful' the reps here have been, that NONE of it has resulted in ANYONE being paid any QUICKER if AT ALL.

The reality is that all Nicolas has been doing is giving you a running commentary on the 'screwing over' process.

Everyone is going to be paid when BP is good and ready and this has not, and will not,change .

I also think it's absolutely disgraceful that they are sending out 'all the issues are fixed' emails along with bonus offers to attract deposits.

Here's a thought Nicolas - forget about accepting money from players and START PAYING THEM!!

Did anyone receive an "all issues are fixed e-mail"? "We are back up" was all I got, or maybe that's what you were referring to? I'm just curious.
 
Did anyone receive an "all issues are fixed e-mail"? "We are back up" was all I got, or maybe that's what you were referring to? I'm just curious.

Yup that's the one - the impression I got was that everything was back on track ' , which it clearly is not.

I'll tell you one thing - I'll wager that BP don't keep their sportsbook customers waiting 7-10 business days.
 
Update = Still no payout from BetPhoenix

Today is business day #10 since my request for withdrawal was made on 1/16

Nicolas indicated he was working closely to ensure I was paid before the due date. Unfortunately for me, that didn't happen.

I sent an email to Nicolas again last evening and one to "Sam" also. Haven't heard back from either since last night.

I called the listed phone number for BetPhoenix and asked to speak with someone in the Payouts department a few minutes ago and was told that "Sam" is the only one who handles these and that today was his day off. I was told to call him tomorrow Saturday after 2pm Eastern. I questioned whether payouts would be processed on a Saturday and woman answering phone said yes - but they have been backed up due to their "system upgrade".

Her final comment was "my best advice is to just call back tomorrow after 2pm and ask to speak with Sam."

So unless I hear from Nicolas or Sam before then, that's what I plan to do.

FWIW

Diane

So they just have ONE person who processes payouts...and today was his day off....with probably hundreds 100s of pissed off customers getting angrier by the moment waiting for their payouts.

You know, if this was MY business, and a crucial part of MY business was in trouble, then I would be working round the clock trying to get things fixed and in order....not taking a day off.

For everyone here waiting for withdrawals from Bet Phoenix, you can see where their priorities lie.

I am embarassed to say I deposited here at one time.
 
...and herein lies the problem.

You will get what you settle for - not what you deserve. There are far better casinos who also have nice managers who pay quickly.

You've waited 10 business days and still not been paid.

Make no mistake Diane - you've already been screwed.

I'm interested when ANYONE gets screwed by a casino, and so should you.
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This is BetPhoenix's first and only problem with ME.

I made a poor choice of casino. Screwed is too strong of a word -- its your word,not mine. Yes, I am disappointed and discouraged. I plan to get the y full $848 owed me. Of that $150 was my own money, the rest was winnings. But I expect to get paid and will do all I can to stay the course and not give up.

I am interested in sharing my experiences, but I am not going to take responsibility for everyone else. I am no justice vigilante. I am sharing my experiences and others can decide what to do. I am not going to tell people what to do, but will share all info gathered for them to make their own choice. Just like I made my own choice.

Don't use me as your soapbox. While I appreciate your concern, you are taking this is to a level far beyond Diane.

I care too about others here on this forum, but I do it by sharing factual experiences and data -- not making inflamatory statements while the jury is still out.

Maybe you think jury has rendered decision and trial is over, execution of guilty completed -- but I am not there yet.

Let everyone reach their own conclusion with the facts and timelines I continue to provide.

Diane
 
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This is BetPhoenix's first and only problem with ME.

Fair enough, but they have a history with others.

I made a poor choice of casino. Screwed is too strong of a word -- its your word,not mine. Yes, I am disappointed and discouraged. I plan to get the y full $848 owed me. Of that $150 was my own money, the rest was winnings. But I expect to get paid and will do all I can to stay the course and not give up.

Yes that word was mine - and it is very apt. You should be paid the full amount and we all agree on that point....and you are right not to give up. :)

I am interested in sharing my experiences, but I am not going to take responsibility for everyone else. I am no justice vigilante. I am sharing my experiences and others can decide what to do. I am not going to tell people what to do, but will share all info gathered for them to make their own choice. Just like I made my own choice.

Don't use me as your soapbox. While I appreciate your concern, you are taking this is to a level far beyond Diane.

I care too about others here on this forum, but I do it by sharing factual experiences and data -- not making inflamatory statements while the jury is still out.

Maybe you think jury has rendered decision and trial is over, execution of guilty completed -- but I am not there yet.

Let everyone reach their own conclusion with the facts and timelines I continue to provide.

Diane

I can sense some aggression here....and it is not warranted. I have not attacked you AT ALL. In fact, I'm on your side 100% as is everyone else (except the casino of course). You are directing your frustration etc at the wrong target.

How am I using you as a soapbox? Mentioning what you posted (publicly) and using it as an example is hardly 'using' you for anything. I have to say I'm really disappointed with that comment, as I am with the 'justice vigilante' label.

As far as taking the issue 'beyond Diane' - well of course I am, the issue is way more than about you personally - it's about players waiting weeks and weeks to be paid what it legitimately theirs, with no explanation provided apart from 'technical difficulties'. It's about a casino that is happy to take your money instantly, but pay you when they 'get around to it'.

It's about a casino that states 7-10 business days as it's standard cashout timeframe....which is shocking to say the least....but they don't even abide by that - and do you know why they have these cashout terms?? They have them because people accept them.

You are obviously not happy and quite concerned about the cashout timeframes. You posted on an almost daily basis about whether or not you were paid, and you emailed Nicolas several times - even though the stated timeframe of 10 business days had not even passed. Why would you do that if you weren't worried yourself? Hell, I would be considering others have been waiting weeks.

My point? Well, all the stuff you posted here was obviously your own experience along with some data (not being paid after 10 bus days is data it's not an opinion), and I assume you did this to assist others who might be in the same boat or thinking of depositing at BP in the future. No problem. It is exactly what I'm doing - sharing my experiences of online gaming in general and what constitutes a trustworthy and sound operation.

You don't have to take my advice or agree with anything I say. I post here to make it clear to anyone who might be new to the industry or haven't played anywhere else except BP that this is not the way things should be done and that there are much better places to play.

You seem to like bonuses which is great. If you want to take the 200% or 900% bonuses or whatever, then you have to accept that it might take several weeks to be paid. You know that now, even if you didn't before. So, if you deposit again you know that's how it rolls. BP are not going to change their policies while players keep going back and supporting the present ones.

Finally, everything I have said is based on nothing but the facts. The huge delays, the empty promises, the unanswered emails, the lack of communication and the inability to fix an issue with their cashier inside of 5 days (just to name a few). I'm not making any of this up, you have stated it yourself - I am just putting 2 and 2 together and getting 4. You are interested mainly in your own situation and getting paid, and thats understandable.....but nothing I say or do is going to get in the way so I will continue to call it as I see it - and you can sit it out and wait, as that is your choice.

I'm not your enemy Diane. I get really angry when I see players getting treated like dirt, and, whether you like it or not, you are. I'm supporting you - please don't take it as anything else :)
 
I agree with Nifty. This situation is now way out of hand and approaching rogue in my estimation. Any casino that treats their customer base as not worthy of fulfilling its obligations is rogue in my eyes and unfortunatly BP is doing exactly that. 5 days to fix a cashier error? over 10 days to pay legitimate withdrawals? Managers taking days off willy nilly when their casino is in strife? Not good.
I did like betphoenix once over, i had a nice cashout from there which ill admit took a week and that was bad enough but this was months ago and it doesnt look as if things have improved. Quite the reverse, its going massively downhill from the looks of things. Wide berth for me now for this casino until it can prove it can act in an integral and professional manner.
 
I can sense some aggression here....and it is not warranted. I have not attacked you AT ALL. In fact, I'm on your side 100% as is everyone else (except the casino of course). You are directing your frustration etc at the wrong target.

How am I using you as a soapbox? Mentioning what you posted (publicly) and using it as an example is hardly 'using' you for anything. I have to say I'm really disappointed with that comment, as I am with the 'justice vigilante' label.

As far as taking the issue 'beyond Diane' - well of course I am, the issue is way more than about you personally - it's about players waiting weeks and weeks to be paid what it legitimately theirs, with no explanation provided apart from 'technical difficulties'. It's about a casino that is happy to take your money instantly, but pay you when they 'get around to it'.

It's about a casino that states 7-10 business days as it's standard cashout timeframe....which is shocking to say the least....but they don't even abide by that - and do you know why they have these cashout terms?? They have them because people accept them.

You are obviously not happy and quite concerned about the cashout timeframes. You posted on an almost daily basis about whether or not you were paid, and you emailed Nicolas several times - even though the stated timeframe of 10 business days had not even passed. Why would you do that if you weren't worried yourself? Hell, I would be considering others have been waiting weeks.

My point? Well, all the stuff you posted here was obviously your own experience along with some data (not being paid after 10 bus days is data it's not an opinion), and I assume you did this to assist others who might be in the same boat or thinking of depositing at BP in the future. No problem. It is exactly what I'm doing - sharing my experiences of online gaming in general and what constitutes a trustworthy and sound operation.

You don't have to take my advice or agree with anything I say. I post here to make it clear to anyone who might be new to the industry or haven't played anywhere else except BP that this is not the way things should be done and that there are much better places to play.

You seem to like bonuses which is great. If you want to take the 200% or 900% bonuses or whatever, then you have to accept that it might take several weeks to be paid. You know that now, even if you didn't before. So, if you deposit again you know that's how it rolls. BP are not going to change their policies while players keep going back and supporting the present ones.

Finally, everything I have said is based on nothing but the facts. The huge delays, the empty promises, the unanswered emails, the lack of communication and the inability to fix an issue with their cashier inside of 5 days (just to name a few). I'm not making any of this up, you have stated it yourself - I am just putting 2 and 2 together and getting 4. You are interested mainly in your own situation and getting paid, and thats understandable.....but nothing I say or do is going to get in the way so I will continue to call it as I see it - and you can sit it out and wait, as that is your choice.

I'm not your enemy Diane. I get really angry when I see players getting treated like dirt, and, whether you like it or not, you are. I'm supporting you - please don't take it as anything else :)

Nifty --- sometimes I go overboard and write diatribes. Not aggession on my part, certainly not towards you, not at all. I *KNOW* you are pulling for me and on my side. I do appreciate it although it may not have come off that way. You are just more passionate and animated on this than I feel right now. You write it the way you feel is most appropriate and so do I.

I am more of the newspaper reporter on the topic of BetPhoenix and you are writing the editorial column. We both contribute. I am reporting as things occur (or don't occur) and keeping people posted. This is my first experience and while there are no results so far from his efforts (as you have rightly continued to point out) at least he is still communicating.

My regular updates (and I will post again after I reach out to "Sam" after his 2pm Eastern arrival at work today) will continue until I get paid. I am not letting it go. Maybe I have enough playing time under my belt online now that I don't "worry" or get all emotionally wrapped up any more. I track it closely (withdrawals, deposits, transfers, etc tightly compared to the past) and stay on top of it ---)

Sites that deserve my business and treat me with respect will get it in future. I do like bonuses, but have become more selective in terms of where I will choose to play with or without bonus. I check the Rogue/Accredited list every time - but many times, a particular site with a bonus may not be listed. Then I check the forum for past reports and go to KasinoKing's site or others for more information.

Thanks for looking out for me and others. It is appreciated although it didn't come off that way in my last post.

Diane
 
Well first of all I would like to say that I feel your anguish Diane. I think it is awesome that you are handling it so well. It seems that others are more upset than you are, and you are the one dealing with the situation. :o

I am not making excuses for them because in reality it is a bad situation. While it may be ridiculous that it takes so long for you to be paid, I know you will get paid soon. Nicolas does need to get together with the team at Bet Phoenix, and improve things quickly before it's too late. However, this casino still has great potential if they do start to change things for the better IMO.

They have the best rep in the business, and I am certain that all players owed monies will receive them. Nicolas does his best to take care of the players, and although things are going wrong for BP, he has always made sure they are happy to the best of his abilities.

To each their own, if you don't want to play there anymore, I don't blame you. BUT If you aren't outraged, certainly others shouldn't be especially if they don't play there. I do realize that players are upset, and they have every right to be, but it's way harsh IMO.

Also, at the forum I moderate Nicolas has ALWAYS been available for any issue, and has stepped up to take care of what other casinos failed to. I am positive that with just a little more time, and patience from players, Bet Phoenix will be a good casino.

Go easy on me. :rolleyes:
 
Diane was paid today

For all of you supporters and bystanders wondering how my situation was being handled. My saga is over.

I am pleased to report that a short while ago, the $848 pending withdrawal from BetPhoenix was deposited into my QT account. It was for the correct amount after the bonus was removed.

Yesterday was the 10th business day, so it was later than their stated withdrawal timeframes, but money appeared today. So I don't know if at BetPhoenix the weekends are considered business days, but transactions occurred today.

I did also speak with "Sam" who was most pleasant on the phone. He indicated that their goal is to pay out within 4-5 business days but that it is an ongoing challenge. I thanked him for his assistance.

Their timeframe for payouts is non-competitive with most of the accredited US-facing sites. But I did get paid. Future decisions on where to play are always influenced by credibility of payouts and timelines experienced. I will certainly factor this experience into my data banks.

I hope the rest of you waiting for payouts receive your money shortly. I can tell you that "Sam" is in the payouts office right now if anyone wants to call and check on the status of their withdrawals.

Thanks to all who encouraged and added input throughout this process. It was most appreciated.

Diane
 
Glad you got paid today, Diane. Let's hope that the ones that have been waiting since December got paid today too.

I wish.
I received an email from support stating the cashier people would contact me regarding a moneygram payment. Same day they finally paid Diane.
Not a peep.
 
I wish.
I received an email from support stating the cashier people would contact me regarding a moneygram payment. Same day they finally paid Diane.
Not a peep.

Snoddy - have you tried calling them and asking to speak with someone in payouts? I was told that Sam typically is in the office after 2-3 pm Eastern most days.

Sometimes picking up the phone can be more effective than multiple emails that seem to get overlooked.

Just a thought.

Diane
 

? Have you sent recent PM or emailed Nicolas ?

? Have you sent PM or email to [email protected]?

? Have you tried calling Sam after 3pm Eastern?

The combination of those and waiting 10 business days got me paid.

I am neither advocating or dissing BetPhoenix just sharing what it took for me to be paid in full. You have to be tenacious. (which I come by naturally)

Good luck,
Diane
 
? Have you sent recent PM or emailed Nicolas ?

? Have you sent PM or email to [email protected]?

? Have you tried calling Sam after 3pm Eastern?

The combination of those and waiting 10 business days got me paid.

I am neither advocating or dissing BetPhoenix just sharing what it took for me to be paid in full. You have to be tenacious. (which I come by naturally)

Good luck,
Diane

Receive Money now (from Betmania:confused:).

But now "This account was excluded from this Promotion. Please call customer service for more information on coupon availability"

Ok Betphoenix dont like winners. :cool:

However... Thank Nicolas. :)
 
Well at least the past payment issue is behind you.

Now that's settled you can decide what you want to do going forward.....
Review your choices and just have fun. Stick to the accredited list and you shouldn't have this frustration again.

Diane
 
Not so well formulated question I guess :) I will rephrase that.
Does anyone here still have payment issues?
I never had, but I'd greatly appreciate if you tell, don't know whether to deposit there again or not.

:cheers:

Emme
 
Not so well formulated question I guess :) I will rephrase that.
Does anyone here still have payment issues?
I never had, but I'd greatly appreciate if you tell, don't know whether to deposit there again or not.

:cheers:

Emme

My first deposit became a withdrawal and waited 12 days. I was reluctant but I ended up depositing $54 last Sat and ran it up to over $1300 so made a cashout of $702. Today is the 7th business day. I like playing there but the waiting is really annoying. If CWC would get their act together with the minimum bet thing I would try them again but I seem to only win at Bet Phoenix...go figure.
 
Not so well formulated question I guess :) I will rephrase that.
Does anyone here still have payment issues?
I never had, but I'd greatly appreciate if you tell, don't know whether to deposit there again or not.

:cheers:

Emme

Well you can see from the last post that you will have to wait around 2weeks to be paid if you win. If you're happy with that then go for it, but be aware there is nothing anyone can do to help you if there are even longer delays (which seems to be the norm with this place

Personally I would avoid them like the plague and stick with accredited casinos. If you want somewhere that pays in 24 hours or less no exceptions then you can't go past Inetbet.

Good luck :)
 
My first deposit became a withdrawal and waited 12 days. I was reluctant but I ended up depositing $54 last Sat and ran it up to over $1300 so made a cashout of $702. Today is the 7th business day. I like playing there but the waiting is really annoying. If CWC would get their act together with the minimum bet thing I would try them again but I seem to only win at Bet Phoenix...go figure.


Thanks :) When i started playing there 7-8 months ago I was paid in 4-5 days with Moneybookers. I guess you can't expect that for now.
 
Well you can see from the last post that you will have to wait around 2weeks to be paid if you win. If you're happy with that then go for it, but be aware there is nothing anyone can do to help you if there are even longer delays (which seems to be the norm with this place

Personally I would avoid them like the plague and stick with accredited casinos. If you want somewhere that pays in 24 hours or less no exceptions then you can't go past Inetbet.

Good luck :)

Thank you :) I usually stick with the accredited casinos. I mainly play the tournaments at BP and have been very lucky doing that. Don't think I would even consider depositing there anymore if it wasn't for that.
 
I played a couple of big sticky bonuses and had a bunch of good hits lowrolling on my favorite slots. Big WR and max cashout make the whole thing -EV, but with those bonuses you are guaranteed to have lots of playtime without risking a fortune and you can still win. I finally made a cashout and got paid after about a week. Cant complain concerning their responsiveness and the people in support are nice, but the entire withdrawal process is lasting too long. I am not used to wait that long for payments (playing at 3dice,32red, 365bet and Jackpot Capital). But all in all, I dont think that Betphoenix is a bad casino. If they manage to speed up the cashouts at least somewhat, it can be a nice and interesting place to play. I hope they succeed.

Balky
 
I played a couple of big sticky bonuses and had a bunch of good hits lowrolling on my favorite slots. Big WR and max cashout make the whole thing -EV, but with those bonuses you are guaranteed to have lots of playtime without risking a fortune and you can still win. I finally made a cashout and got paid after about a week. Cant complain concerning their responsiveness and the people in support are nice, but the entire withdrawal process is lasting too long. I am not used to wait that long for payments (playing at 3dice,32red, 365bet and Jackpot Capital). But all in all, I dont think that Betphoenix is a bad casino. If they manage to speed up the cashouts at least somewhat, it can be a nice and interesting place to play. I hope they succeed.

Balky

I disagree. I won $7-8k last May, and still haven't been paid in full from that. The first payment was quick, but since then it's been a joke. I've contacted Nicolas twice through PM, and the first time it resulted in a payment, but I have not been paid anything in 3 months now.

BetPhoenix haven't responded to emails in months either, and live chat never works (suspect I'm chat banned).

Filed a complaint with CDS today, so let's see how that goes.

If you play there, make sure you don't win more than what will be paid in one installment. They don't like bigger winners.
 
I disagree. I won $7-8k last May, and still haven't been paid in full from that. The first payment was quick, but since then it's been a joke. I've contacted Nicolas twice through PM, and the first time it resulted in a payment, but I have not been paid anything in 3 months now.

BetPhoenix haven't responded to emails in months either, and live chat never works (suspect I'm chat banned).

Filed a complaint with CDS today, so let's see how that goes.

If you play there, make sure you don't win more than what will be paid in one installment. They don't like bigger winners.

WOW.

Did you PAB?

You should at least let Max know in case a warning needs to be issued.

This kind of thing SCREAMS 'underfunded' and members should SERIOUSLY consider avoiding them based on this issue and the recent month long delays.

Sorry Nicolas . You're a nice guy but that don't mean a hill o' beans when everything else about the place is rogue.
 
I disagree. I won $7-8k last May, and still haven't been paid in full from that. The first payment was quick, but since then it's been a joke. I've contacted Nicolas twice through PM, and the first time it resulted in a payment, but I have not been paid anything in 3 months now.

BetPhoenix haven't responded to emails in months either, and live chat never works (suspect I'm chat banned).

Filed a complaint with CDS today, so let's see how that goes.

If you play there, make sure you don't win more than what will be paid in one installment. They don't like bigger winners.

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: I say a big ol eff to that....but thanks for telling us maybe Max will see this and investigate despite the used PAB.
 
Wow! I've received some pretty big bonus offers lately and now I understand why. They pretty much lost my business and I haven't deposited there for quite awhile now. There is just not much integrity in gaming for players from the USA these days. Lately, I've just been going to landbased casinos mostly. I've tried Bodog a couple times.
 
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