Betat/Slotty Vegas ownership questions

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mac72

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Guess I’m another “of the lucky ones” never had any issue whatsoever with them , top outfit
 

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Never had a issue myself. As a player I'd happily recommend them, also great VIP program.
 

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Do I believe that they are owned even partly by the Vulkan/MaxBet/non-genuine games group? No. There were several factors that indicated that this may have been the case - some public, some not so. But these were address in a fairly thorough manner during private conversations and after significant investigation logical reasons were given for the connections that had been drawn that did not involve sale to a group involved in the distribution of fake games.

It is with a hefty amount of disappointment that I have to roll back on the above statement.

Throughout this very extended dialogue, the NRR reps have contested that their new company name - Max Ent Limited - was just coincidentally close to the MaxBet name and where this had aligned with other factors that indicated any connection between the properties associated with VulkanBet and the NRR properties this was also simply coincidence. Plausible explanations were given for those potential coincidences.

I have been contacted by someone who directed me to this:

VulkanBet-Max-Entertainment.jpg



So now we have a situation where the NRR company changed name to "Max Ent Limited" and before the close of the year Vulkan Bet change their ownership details to "Max Entertainment Limited".

While there is a very slight difference in the names being used, in my opinion it is beyond coincidence at this juncture to conclude that VulkanBet just happen to have chosen a very similar company name to switch to. Beyond that though, it seems that Max Ent Limited regularly refer to themselves as "Max Entertainment":

Max-Entertainment-company-page.jpg



And this one show the LinkedIn page of our main contact with this group throughout this conversation:


aff-manager-max-entertainment.jpg


I'm sure many here can work out who the above is likely to be, but I don't like identifying individuals in association with this type of thing (they are after all usually just employees doing what they're paid to do to earn a living) and the purpose of the above is to show the 'Max Entertainment' branding being used. As such I've removed the photo and name.

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Even in the best possible case scenario - that being that in the time between my previous conversations with the company reps and now, the former NRR Entertaiment has acquired VulkanBet (and what a spectacularly poor decision that would have been given what had already happened, going a long way towards validating the very things they claimed to be false) - imo there's no way this has all come to pass in the time between then and now with no-one in the know back when those conversations occurred.

I simply don't believe in coincidences this large and as such my conclusion has to be that those people I've spoken to have been dishonest in their communications and have worked to specifically cover-up the fact that these groups are in fact connected. This is all my opinion and I leave it open to the readers of the forum to reach their own conclusions based on what I've posted.

We will be dropping the former NRR properties immediately following this post.

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My friend, that is, you want to say that they are associated with Vulkan casino that does not have a license, and just foolish reputation.
A nightmare.!
 

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Thanks for the info, this will be extremely helpful to me personally.

Any reason why on Slotty Vegas they show Danger High Voltage in their main page picture yet the game is not available on their site? Do they actually have a licence with BTG? @Big Time Gaming
 

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Seems like they are a bad bunch after all. :puke:

Good that all of us here at CM have already closed our accounts at Betat and Slotty Vegas. :thumbsup:
 

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Seems like they are a bad bunch after all. :puke:

Good that all of us here at CM have already closed our accounts at Betat and Slotty Vegas. :thumbsup:
Don’t include “all” of us please as “all” of us haven’t I personally have a very good relationship with the people who work there and have done for many years. I’m unsure of the ownership but I don’t really care , if it did I couldn’t stay at most hotels in London , eat out in many places and in my country buy fuel at half the filling stations etc etc etc. If you actually think that you KNOW who owns most things your badly mistaken there’s usually someone behind someone behind someone
 

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Don’t include “all” of us please as “all” of us haven’t I personally have a very good relationship with the people who work there and have done for many years. I’m unsure of the ownership but I don’t really care , if it did I couldn’t stay at most hotels in London , eat out in many places and in my country buy fuel at half the filling stations etc etc etc. If you actually think that you KNOW who owns most things your badly mistaken there’s usually someone behind someone behind someone

We all make up our own minds about who we trust and where we want to play, so that's fine.

I do hope you understand though that neither The Pogg or Casinomeister can look the other way when this kind of information comes up. They can't just focus on making money and have fun, but need to watch out who they are doing business with, and to try and keep this industry as honest as possible.
We owe them a lot for all they have done and still do:thumbsup:
 

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We all make up our own minds about who we trust and where we want to play, so that's fine.

I do hope you understand though that neither The Pogg or Casinomeister can look the other way when this kind of information comes up. They can't just focus on making money and have fun, but need to watch out who they are doing business with, and to try and keep this industry as honest as possible.
We owe them a lot for all they have done and still do:thumbsup:
That’s why I said “for me personally” each to his own. I’m only interested in who runs it and if I find them trustworthy , shareholders/owners don’t run any business and have no right to its their management team and that’s what I’m interested in and in relation to betat/slotty I can’t fault them. Many accredited casinos here are PLC’s ,try working out who owns the shares in them
 

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That’s why I said “for me personally” each to his own. I’m only interested in who runs it and if I find them trustworthy , shareholders/owners don’t run any business and have no right to its their management team and that’s what I’m interested in and in relation to betat/slotty I can’t fault them. Many accredited casinos here are PLC’s ,try working out who owns the shares in them

I understand you, and I would have agreed since I'm normally the one who can trust a casino if I like the rep :)

In this case though I wouldn't since those who run it are well aware who the owners are and have been from the beginning. I just hope they keep on treating you and other customers as they should be treated, and that the ownership won't effect that too much.
 

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I understand you, and I would have agreed since I'm normally the one who can trust a casino if I like the rep :)

In this case though I wouldn't since those who run it are well aware who the owners are and have been from the beginning. I just hope they keep on treating you and other customers as they should be treated, and that the ownership won't effect that too much.
That is a very brave statement to make of someone else’s knowledge of the ownership of the company they work for. I was a director of a reputable uk company for 14 years I had an idea who owned it but to this day I couldn’t tell you for sure and in a position like that the only answer is “I don’t know” anything else gets you into trouble as you’d be stating something as fact when you don’t know it to be so
 

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Who are this Vulkanbet company? Is there anything on here about them?
Scorched soft, fake gaminator and other pitfalls. There is nothing about them here, but there are plenty of articles on the Internet, and they are not positive in part, trust me.
 

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That is a very brave statement to make of someone else’s knowledge of the ownership of the company they work for. I was a director of a reputable uk company for 14 years I had an idea who owned it but to this day I couldn’t tell you for sure and in a position like that the only answer is “I don’t know” anything else gets you into trouble as you’d be stating something as fact when you don’t know it to be so

I'm too old to be worried about if it gets me into trouble or not :)
 

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Scorched soft, fake gaminator and other pitfalls. There is nothing about them here, but there are plenty of articles on the Internet, and they are not positive in part, trust me.

Thanks

On Slotty Vegas they have 2 BTG slots, they are slightly different in setup to one on say Casumo or a reputable company. Could they also be copied? I found it strange that they had a restricted number of BTG, Play n Go and other slots...
 

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Think you’ve completely misinterpreted that ,the point being made was how can someone who holds a management position in betat/slotty tell you who owns it they may not know just the same as everyone posting on here difference being if they state something that isn’t true THEY can get into trouble
I'm too old to be worried about if it gets me into trouble or not :)[/QUOTE
 

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Think you’ve completely misinterpreted that ,the point being made was how can someone who holds a management position in betat/slotty tell you who owns it they may not know just the same as everyone posting on here difference being if they state something that isn’t true THEY can get into trouble
I'm too old to be worried about if it gets me into trouble or not :)[/QUOTE
 

mac72

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Think you’ve completely misinterpreted that ,the point being made was how can someone who holds a management position in betat/slotty tell you who owns it they may not know just the same as everyone posting on here difference being if they state something that isn’t true THEY can get into trouble
I'm too old to be worried about if it gets me into trouble or not :)[/QUOTE
 

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Think you’ve completely misinterpreted that ,the point being made was how can someone who holds a management position in betat/slotty tell you who owns it they may not know just the same as everyone posting on here difference being if they state something that isn’t true THEY can get into trouble

I think, from reading @ThePOGG post it appears that they went out of their way to deny it was certain owners. That is a sign of dishonesty when everything else points to the fact that they are being untruthful
 

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Think you’ve completely misinterpreted that ,the point being made was how can someone who holds a management position in betat/slotty tell you who owns it they may not know just the same as everyone posting on here difference being if they state something that isn’t true THEY can get into trouble

I think we can let that go. I wrote what I did and you believe what you want anyway so it really doesn't matter :)
 
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