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Not a fan of Robin Hood, but I'll play a bit and go back and poke a bit each time in case one day I'm low. Fruit Shop sucks bum. Beach has paid me quite well though.
Devil's Delight has eaten my balance far more than it's rewarded it.
Devil's Delight has eaten my balance far more than it's rewarded it.
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'Robbin' the Hood' is a crap slot. I have lost lots on there and will not play that Slot again. It takes forever to get all those bags sometimes and you win 5 coins at the end.
I must admit I play beach on occasion.. It has dished out a few smallish wins (100x and under)... I have not played fruitshop.
Thief is not good IMPO - I mostly play DOA, Disco Spins (Recently) and Evolution. I dabble a bit on Wild Turkey but that can go into suck mode often.
Reel Steel and Starburst are another 2 money suckers I ENJOY but lose 99% of the time on...
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I must admit I play beach on occasion.. It has dished out a few smallish wins (100x and under)... I have not played fruitshop.
Thief is not good IMPO - I mostly play DOA, Disco Spins (Recently) and Evolution. I dabble a bit on Wild Turkey but that can go into suck mode often.
Reel Steel and Starburst are another 2 money suckers I ENJOY but lose 99% of the time on...
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I tried several times to like it but I just can't. It's another one of those NetEnt slots with a "you can't win" feeling attached to it. I don't know what's the deal. Same with Evolution, Elements, Frankenstein...
There's a little something with a lot of NetEnt slots that I don't like but can't really put words on it.
Robin hood can be quite enterntaining with a 100xbet or even with 50xbet bankroll. Big wins are really really hard to get wit it. Best one I have gotten so far is 80xbet and I have played it quite a lot 
. Freespins pay muc too often really bad, something like 2xbet is nothing extraordinary with it.
. Freespins pay muc too often really bad, something like 2xbet is nothing extraordinary with it.
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Robin Hood is quite entertaining at times but far from my favorite slot. Starburst is what I play the most of the NetEnt ones.
Yes ive also noticed thief, frankenstein,Devils Delight and Elements also has that "you cant win big" feel to them. Ive been lucky on Muse and Wild Turkey tough, Gotten over 1000x bet in freespinns on both of them on pretty high stakes. But especially Fruit shop is eeeeeeextreeeemley cheap. I dont understand why they would program a slot that way? Its not appealing, and its not entertaining when you cant win at all.
Just played Robin Hood yesterday aswell at 1 Euro pr spinn. It took 150 of my balance before i got the bonus round that paid a whopping 5 euros !!!
Just played Robin Hood yesterday aswell at 1 Euro pr spinn. It took 150 of my balance before i got the bonus round that paid a whopping 5 euros !!!
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I think they are remarkably similar in play to MG slots. Playing Wild Rockets/ JatB, Frankenstein/DoA is like playing TSII IR and BDBA in respect of the freespins rounds. You go ages without getting them then you get a cluster of freespins rounds. The result of these is similar too. You get 2 or 3 with 5-20x stake then the better one, which pays 50-200x stake. Then you revert to mediocrity again. I just think they're smoother and better on the eye.
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They are the Kind of Slots you need to go a few hundred spins to get back your bankroll. Disco Spins needs about 200 x your bet as a starter. I usually hit the FS quite quickly and 100x Stake is common. It's more of a Bankroll booster. It doesn't suck you down quickly either.
Evolution is OK.. but a bit tougher to get past the 100x bet mark. It also takes a few 100 spins.
Now Elements is a different ball game. It is FULL of meaningless 5 - 10 x wins and you need about 500 spins to see something... My hits always came after a prolonged session. It just takes too damn long to see a result IMPO ... I think the paytable is too cluttered with crappy wins.. Then again, its common on Netent. My biggest win is close to 400x stake on it.
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Couldn't agree more
Their are far to many tiny wins. I have a feeling those small wins amount to the RTP listed on many of their slots as big wins (cash-out worthy) seem far to rare.
I was meant to play Netent last night but given my recent sessions I decided to give that a skip and opted for the pub instead. I had a decent win fairly quickly at the pub
I maintain that WMS slots are probably the best paying out there because they seem to pay more decent-big wins more often.
Majority of the net ent releases the past 3 years or so are disappointments. Yes, they mostly look great and sound great, and some of them are actually a lot of fun to play. But the payouts... oh man. You really need to drag any decent wins out of them. Long and tedious process and often surprisingly costly, despite of the purported 97+% RTPs on some of them.
Another pet peeve of mine is the poor pays in regular spins. So few of the new slots have any good wins on the paytable unless you get a free spins or bonus round and then then have some special thing happen there. What you WILL get is alot of tiny wins that may or may not keep you going for a good while, but also frustrate you in the process. In other words, net ent needs more high variance alternatives. I'll gladly accept a high number of poorly paying free spins rounds for the chance of getting a big hit any time, on any spin.
Lately I find myself going back to Reel Steal more and more. Fans of BDBA will know why.
Another pet peeve of mine is the poor pays in regular spins. So few of the new slots have any good wins on the paytable unless you get a free spins or bonus round and then then have some special thing happen there. What you WILL get is alot of tiny wins that may or may not keep you going for a good while, but also frustrate you in the process. In other words, net ent needs more high variance alternatives. I'll gladly accept a high number of poorly paying free spins rounds for the chance of getting a big hit any time, on any spin.
Lately I find myself going back to Reel Steal more and more. Fans of BDBA will know why.
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I played Robin Hood quite a lot when it first came out - I liked it & had some good wins on it (below).
These days I only play it at one casino (Betsson) because I don't have any saved money-bags at any other casino and it REALLY SUCKS having to start from scratch. (How NetEnt can justify having a slot run on a lower RTP for the first few 100 spins is beyond me!)
Anyway, difficult to say exactly how much x bet this win is, cos I vary my bets and the free-spins are at the average value when you get the bags, but I have it recorded as x230 (Final result was €275 @ 6c/line average)
This one was actually in NORMAL spins when the "Blue Guy" kept landing in the right place on reel 1!
(Bet x244)
Beach is a low variance slot IMO, and I've only had over x100 once (and that was NOT from free-spins!):
Just looking through the screenshots on my main computer (bearing in mind I sometimes play on other computers and that I play some NetEnt slots a LOT more than others) these are the ones I have the most x100+ shots from:
Evolution x7
Frankenstein x6
Gonzo x6
Groovy 60s x8
Jack & the Beanstalk x8
Jack Hammer 1 x9
Jack Hammer 2 x3
Someone mentioned Thief? Hadn't played it since it first came out, but had a go last night for some reason; €150 down the tubes in 300+ spins with NO free-spins at all... HAS to be the most aptly named NetEnt slot if nothing else!
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This is the core problem with Netent's output, I've flagged it up before and specifically with regards to Elements.
WMS slots will have a single 100x win on the paytable, whereas a Netent slot like Elements will have twenty 5x stake wins on the paytable - the overall RTP is the same but the WMS slot delivers more decent wins at the expense of the rubbish that Netent slots keep kicking out.
That said, I have a soft spot for Beach and Evolution, and I don't have a problem with a good chunk of the RTP being tied up in bonus rounds, any player of video slots should always ensure his bankroll safely 'buys' him a bonus round or two.
Thief and Wild Rockets are OK too, although I haven't been tempted to go back and play with real cash for Thief, I think Wild Rockets was the most recent Netent release I played for in real.
The other issue I have with Netent (and MG) is the song and dance they go through for tiny little wins. Pointless animations and music and all the rest of it, Elements in non-quickspin mode is quite staggeringly tedious.
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100% agreed. most time/most netent slots will kill your bankroll slowly. and chance of winning some decent is too low.
PS: reel steal is not the same to BDBA, it has the similar payable but behaving totally different.
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I've done well with Robin Hood at least once while low-rolling, about $40 from a penny a line bet. It's too early for me to do the math on that, but I do remember thinking "Why oh why wasn't I betting higher?"
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I couldn't agree more... You cannot compare the two. Reel Steel is a balance guzzler ... I have played a few 1000 spins and I'm yet to even hit over 100x Bet.
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Vice versa for me with DoA. Not once have I hit the fabled five wilds in free spins on DoA, yet I've had many amazing hits on Reel Steal
Horses for courses!
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Ditto....
My 3 favourite slots: Starburst, DoA and Reel Steal and the ones that suck me dry
My 3 favourite slots: Starburst, DoA and Reel Steal and the ones that suck me dry
Could you share your thoughts on the behaviour differences? I noticed that you're more likely to get 100x to 200x stake during the free spins on reel steal than on bdba.
Also, according to be pay table alone, BDBA's variance would be a bit higher.
Do the money bags "expire" like the sin spins on devil's delight? If they do then that's unacceptable, and one has to wonder if the extra RTP "expires" as well.
It's one of those inexplicable things, just like the Untamed series on MG. Your spin TRTP is clearly not the same if you've got 3 wilds accumulated on all reels than if you have a brand new game.
I said it before and I'll say it again: these slots have to be compensated in order to work. The "collecting" system goes against true randomness whereas you have to have the exact same chance to win any single amount on every single spin.
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Vice versa for me with DoA. Not once have I hit the fabled five wilds in free spins on DoA, yet I've had many amazing hits on Reel Steal
I had you in mind when I made that post - I KNEW You would come to the Reel Steels rescue
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My Crap Net ent slots list - the worst in first few positions( First 6 positions are jackpots type slots then probably have poor RTP in regular play - anyway - not recommended .this slots
-Geisha Wonders
-Icy Wonders
-Tiki Wonders
-Super Lucky Frog
-Fishy Fortune
- Arabian Night
-king of chicago
-Boom Brothers
-Fortune Teller
-Tales of Krakow
-Geisha Wonders
-Icy Wonders
-Tiki Wonders
-Super Lucky Frog
-Fishy Fortune
- Arabian Night
-king of chicago
-Boom Brothers
-Fortune Teller
-Tales of Krakow
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In general i find all netEnt slots to be tough and hard to get feature. I am actually surprised to read that some people win a lot at netEnd (mostly Scandinavians 
) so i seriously think they have different RPT based on your county or something lol.
I never play hundreds of spins to wait for a bonus round on any software. Usually on MG and RTG they come relatively fast or i move on, i guess NetEnd does not suit my play style then.
The only one i love and that gives me lots of bonuses is DOA, the rest i try to avoid now.
) so i seriously think they have different RPT based on your county or something lol.I never play hundreds of spins to wait for a bonus round on any software. Usually on MG and RTG they come relatively fast or i move on, i guess NetEnd does not suit my play style then.
The only one i love and that gives me lots of bonuses is DOA, the rest i try to avoid now.
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Yes, but they stay put for a whole YEAR, not the 48hrs or whatever Devils Delight & Relic Raiders do.
I was going to play Robin Hood at Casino Euro a few days ago - but then found it was more than a year since my last time...
I disagree - I don't think they are compensated. (Can't prove it - otherwise I would!)
I've played them a reasonable amount and I've seen not difference in behaviour / payouts before I've collected any/many icons to afterwards. And I don't see why they would have to be compensated anyway - the lower RTP at the start is just something you have to accept before you start playing the game. Same as accepting that RTG slots have a cap on your maximum possible win on any spin.
I don't think any of the slots have a statement in their rules or paytables which say "you have the exact same chance to win any single amount on every single spin". If they did, you would be right and they would HAVE to be compensated.
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It is funny how mileage may vary with these things. Imo, RS and BDBA are at least in the same general ballpark variance-wise and behaviour-wise. In my experience, the biggest difference between these two is that you cannot get a total zero in free spins with RS because the triggering bet gives 4xbet as the base, unlike in BDBA which gives you nothing. Both can give a good mauling when in a bad mood, but I have had better hits in RS so far. Horses for courses and so forth, indeed.
But that's the very definition of true randomness when it comes to slot machines KK, and it's a law in every serious gambling jurisdiction.
Wizard of Odds describes it as "Every spin is random and independent of all past spins" (
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), which means the same thing. This cannot be achieved on Untamed, Devil's Delight or Robin Hood as your spins are clearly dependent of the previous spins, which means that the slot is compensated (ie: the outcome is affected by the previous plays).
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Yes, but "Random and Independent" is NOT the same as saying "you have the exact same chance to win any single amount on every single spin".
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Yes it is. Independent means that each spin must be treated as if the machine was brand new and was just powered up. If things change along the way then the outcome becomes dependent of what happened in the previous spins.
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In general i find all netEnt slots to be tough and hard to get feature. I am actually surprised to read that some people win a lot at netEnd (mostly Scandinavians
I never play hundreds of spins to wait for a bonus round on any software. Usually on MG and RTG they come relatively fast or i move on, i guess NetEnd does not suit my play style then.
The only one i love and that gives me lots of bonuses is DOA, the rest i try to avoid now.
I have the exact feeling about this... I have even felt the slight differences when I played in Euro and USD.
However, just as I said, it is a feeling...
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thief is horrible... played it bout 10 times, never saw a feature...
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Crime scene surley sucks.
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Yes, but that doesn't mean the spins are not Random or Independent. There are quite a few slots where you have to "save up" something to get a certain bonus or feature. None of them would have been approved to go live if your definition was true.
Anyway, whenever someone starts talking about how bad a slot is - I just HAVE to go and play it... and look what I just hit!
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Nice hit KK,
I was just playing this myself.. I had 3 money bags in 4 chests, 2 in the last one.. I landed the 10 free spins and got £0.04p in return for my £70 or £80 I put in... I love Robin Hood - Not!.. lol
I was just playing this myself.. I had 3 money bags in 4 chests, 2 in the last one.. I landed the 10 free spins and got £0.04p in return for my £70 or £80 I put in... I love Robin Hood - Not!.. lol
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Yeah, that's the BIG problem with this slot; In normal spins it's quite low variance and I find my money can last quite a long time. But getting the free-spins takes forever and then it usually pays jack-shite!
e.g. That session last night must have taken about 200 spins to get the last money bag I needed - then the free spins paid about €10 when my average bet size was €0.11/line; i.e. about bet x5
It's AGES since I last had a decent result from the free-spins...
KK
The RTP is dependent of what happened previously (as you admitted before with Robin Hood), which is the definition of a compensated game (ie: the more you play, the higher you can win.).
My definition is true. No if's. Try to find a land based slot where you have to "collect things" and the more you get, the higher the RTP. You won't find any because it's against the law pretty much everywhere (except in UK pubs it seems, where compensated crap is allowed).
This means that the AWP's aren't the only online games that are compensated, and I'm highly disappointed by this.
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