Anyone had a payout from Stay Lucky Casino?

Worried

Dormant Account
Joined
Dec 11, 2019
Location
Uk
They are new and I can’t find any positive stories about them :-(
They appear to be owned by Tall Mountain, which seemingly makes it more unlikely I’ll ever see my money. They’re also not listed on askgamblers.com

Anyone have any info about them?
 
There are countless threads on Casinomeister in recent weeks where players have complained about withdrawals from sister sites in this group.

Which country are you playing/deposited from?
 
2nd thread you made and both from casino's who won't pay you... while you admitted to being self-excluded on UK casino's. I'd be worried about my gambling issues instead and stop signing up anywhere!
Thanks. That’s really helpful... as if I hadn’t considered that...
 
I'm sure others will chip in with their views on Casinomir, perhaps more strongly then myself but it is a web site that is designed solely to target UK players who have gambling problems and on GAMSTOP.

Just out of interest, what method of payment did you use to deposit at Stay Lucky?
 
I'm sure others will chip in with their views on Casinomir, perhaps more strongly then myself but it is a web site that is designed solely to target UK players who have gambling problems and on GAMSTOP.

Just out of interest, what method of payment did you use to deposit at Stay Lucky?
Oh. Well, they got me, and I’m their target audience :-(

sigh

debit card.
 
Well, I would immediately cancel your debit card as your details have been compromised. There was a thread a while back where I tested these scam sites and within weeks there were declined transactions from all over the place. Carpet shops, virtual banks, gift shops etc.

I understand your frustration with gambling, please get support and install a blocking utility to restrict access where possible.
 
Well, I would immediately cancel your debit card as your details have been compromised. There was a thread a while back where I tested these scam sites and within weeks there were declined transactions from all over the place. Carpet shops, virtual banks, gift shops etc.

I understand your frustration with gambling, please get support and install a blocking utility to restrict access where possible.
If I cancel my debit card, and in the unlikely event THEY do pay out, Will the payment be rejected? I’m very worried because I sent them all my ID as well :-(
Feel very stupid at the moment. Sigh
 
All refunds will be credited to a lost/comprised debit card in the UK. Worse case scenario, you will have to call the bank for them to manually add it to your account from the retainer they have.

What you don't want is the casino (or anyone else they may have sold your details on to) stealing any monies from your account or using overdraft facilities. There are threads elsewhere I've seen where they have left players with a massive overdraft to pay back.

Data protection at any of these clip joints is unknown, do they follow basic procedures, GDPR etc - no one knows for sure. Many of the payment pages are not even SSL.
 
How do they get away with it? They’ve got games on there from big companies like NetEnt,etc. Why wouldn’t these companies do more to protect players?
 
They get away with it very easily. In most cases they buy counterfeit games from the dark web (Play'n Go, NetEnt packs sell from $200) and as they have no licence or pay tax there is very little cost. That is why over the past few weeks, you are seeing several new casinos every week. Once they get a bad name, they open another one.

To run a legit casino these days in a regulated market, you are talking serious money. That is why so many licensed casinos are closing, it is no longer profitable with increased overheads, tax and UKGC interference. 2019 has seen 43 known brands close, a number that is likely to climb further next year.

To top it off, these scam casinos offer affiliates 50-70% commission so you can see why an increasing number of sites are listing them.

Pure evil, simple.
 
That’s all very grim :-(

do they ever pay? Surely it’s in their interests to give some money back so people keep using their sites?
 
Yes the site pays small amounts out, if they know you will put more back in.

But as soon as you actually win a decent amount, you will see nothing.
 
That’s all very grim :-(

do they ever pay? Surely it’s in their interests to give some money back so people keep using their sites?

It's all very carefully micromanaged - they will never pay big wins to players who make a first deposit of say 50 and win 10k.

If you make a few small deposits and lose, they will pay small amounts out as long as you are behind overall, this stops when you win big or any amount significantly over your combined deposits. It's basically a confidence trick.

The fact you may get dodgy-looking transactions on your card has little or nothing to do with bank fraud - it looks like it, but it's simply routing of payments through third parties in order to disguise the fact they are illegal unlicensed gambling transactions which may be prohibited or liable to later chargebacks. It provides a layer or two of separation between the illegal gambling transaction which card providers in your country may block otherwise, or are likely to block in future when the regulators get onto the issue.

They then launder the criminal profits and sometimes open legitimate-looking operations on the back of them by pulling the wool over the eyes of the MGA or UKGC or whichever.
 
It's all very carefully micromanaged - they will never pay big wins to players who make a first deposit of say 50 and win 10k.

If you make a few small deposits and lose, they will pay small amounts out as long as you are behind overall, this stops when you win big or any amount significantly over your combined deposits. It's basically a confidence trick.

The fact you may get dodgy-looking transactions on your card has little or nothing to do with bank fraud - it looks like it, but it's simply routing of payments through third parties in order to disguise the fact they are illegal unlicensed gambling transactions which may be prohibited or liable to later chargebacks. It provides a layer or two of separation between the illegal gambling transaction which card providers in your country may block otherwise, or are likely to block in future when the regulators get onto the issue.

They then launder the criminal profits and sometimes open legitimate-looking operations on the back of them by pulling the wool over the eyes of the MGA or UKGC or whichever.


I’m definitely under the amount I deposited! Fingers crossed I’ll get something back.
Thanks for explaining it. It’s so sad they prey on people like this :-(
 

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