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Anyone else feeling ripped off at slotastic?

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Rusty

Banned User - repetitive flaming
Joined
Jul 23, 2006
Location
Manchester UK
Any other players at slotastic here?
I praised them for their verification policy but judging by my play so far they have their slots set super tight.

25 free spins on TallyHo and not one 3 of a kind?
Ronin no better than 5x bet?
Wok&roll chef free spins with extra wild x5bet?

I have not even managed a free spin round on cleo after god knows how many spins and every slot is the same - super tight.

Anyone else feeling ripped off here by low RTP or am I just suffering one of my anomalous/normal losing streaks?
 
i've closed now my accounts on slotastic and Jackpot Capital because i have really the same feeling, that there have something changed and since their bonuses have now a 30x WR there are much better RTG casinos out there with bettr bonus offers :)
 
For me, Jackpot vcapital always been tight and I have stopped playing there. I have only used the free 50$ that i gor at slotastic and they were gone so fast that I was shocked.
Those 2 casinos are not for me =)
 
Marie2473 said:
For me, Jackpot vcapital always been tight and I have stopped playing there. I have only used the free 50$ that i gor at slotastic and they were gone so fast that I was shocked.
Those 2 casinos are not for me =)
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How did people get $50? I've never seen this promo or code.
 
Yes I had the same at Jackpot capital too but will always give a new RTG that is not rogue a try.
You always get streaks at every RTG but having your first 3 sessions all go the same way with ridiculously poor features every time kind of dampens the enthusiasm.
Some RTG's seem to play differently than others in that they will be extremely tight but every now and again go on silly winning streaks to compensate - not sure I am willing to try and verify that theory at this Casino though. :o
 
they are really tight casinos...

I had a jackpot capital account, but closed it because it was really tight for me. I went to live chat and the operator does not try to stay as a customer (I was gold, I made over a thousand dollars in deposits in a couple of months).
It was very disappointing because I had heard good things about capital jackpot, but I felt very bad when the operator said: "ok, bye, your account is closed, nothing else). I suppose the RTG casinos are all very tight.

:eek2:
 
Miss_Token said:
I had a jackpot capital account, but closed it because it was really tight for me. I went to live chat and the operator does not try to stay as a customer (I was gold, I made over a thousand dollars in deposits in a couple of months).
It was very disappointing because I had heard good things about capital jackpot, but I felt very bad when the operator said: "ok, bye, your account is closed, nothing else). I suppose the RTG casinos are all very tight.

:eek2:
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That is so rude! I got the same exact treatment when I closed my Jackpot Capital acct, which further lets me know I did the right thing! And I will not even attempt to download SLOTASTIC!
 
I like Jackpot Capital better that Slotastic but both seem to be money takers in the past couple of months imo.I used to be able to deposit 10 to 15.00 there and have a grand time and even cashout some, i hope this isnt going to be a trend as i do like JPC just dont care for the other at all................laurie
 
lauriejim said:
I like Jackpot Capital better that Slotastic but both seem to be money takers in the past couple of months imo.I used to be able to deposit 10 to 15.00 there and have a grand time and even cashout some, i hope this isnt going to be a trend as i do like JPC just dont care for the other at all................laurie
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Jackpot Capital has been real bad for me too. I deposit 100.00 at a time and I used to at least have some fun. The past two months have been so bad I have just about quit making deposits there. Keep hoping things will change sometime soon.

Michelle
 
I found some no deposit coupons and all of them said they had already been redeemed. I have never played there in my life. I would like to try it before I deposit real money there.
 
Jackpot Capital/slotastic have been really tight for me too. Their free chips are a joke - 60x wr!!! on a ND chip. it seems like all the casinos are excessively tight now to me. maybe once in a while a decent win, but that's after spending far more than that to get said win.
 
Well just gave them another chance low rolling and a few hundred spins without the sniff of a feature or winning at all.
Rebrand required for this dump.
Craptastic, tightest slots on the net.
I'm off elsewhere for my RTG kicks.
 
Jackpot Capital is one of the two RTGs I will play at, but they do go through spells of damned-near featureless and pennie payouts. I've lost some money to them as well, but in all fairness, I have to say I have also had a few very nice wins. Those wins were paid quickly and sweetly. I'll give a good bit back during the dry spells, but there is a limit and when it's reached, I avoid their ass for a while.
 
Does this sound right?

So I tried out Slotastic because is was accredited here. Made the playthrough and withdrew. All docs have been approved. I get this e-mail this morning:

Thank you for your patience regarding your withdrawal and Congratulations on your winnings!

Kindly note that the earliest withdrawals will be processed 7 days after your last eWalletXpress deposit was made. Your last deposit was made on Oct 1st, 2010.

Should you require any further information or assistance, please feel free to contact us at the below-mentioned telephone numbers and/or e-mail address.

Enjoy playing in the casino!

Yours Sincerely,

Kristy
Casino Support

Toll Free: 800-571-7009
Regular number: 678-349-0095
Fax number: 678-349-0096

Now, when you deposit with EwalletXpress, the funds have to be in your account. They don't credit you. SO why do I have to wait a week to get my winnings? Just doesn't sound right to me.

Any thoughts?

LH
 
missmichelle said:
Jackpot Capital has been real bad for me too. I deposit 100.00 at a time and I used to at least have some fun. The past two months have been so bad I have just about quit making deposits there. Keep hoping things will change sometime soon.

Michelle
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I deposit 100.00 at a time and have hit nothing in at least the last 10 deposits..No bonus rounds, etc...I think I will also close my account.

I would like to keep one RTG, any suggestions.

I have tried High Noon many times and just as tight...
 
I have not played at slotastic so i cannot comment on them. However I can comment on jackpot capital. I lost tons in the beginning when I first started playing at jackpot capital and was very upset i started playing there. The only reason i started there is because of the good comments on this site. i have recently had some decent withdrawals but every time I have won has been off a deposit bonus. If I just deposit and don't take up any deposit I have lost very quickly every single time. Even though the I have to clear around 3000-4500 playthrough on my bonus, I have cleared the bonus 3 times in a row now and have cashed out 300.00 for a 50.00 deposit 3 times in a row. I am still down roughly 500-1000 on jackpot capital, but they pay out so fast that I don't even care if they are tight, because I know if i win i will get paid. I recently had bodog screw me out of 300.00 and they wouldn't pay me. I also had lucky creek screw me out of 200.00 which they would not pay. I am currently waiting for 80 bucks from silver oak which I doubt I will get and also 400.00 from grand Eagle which they claim has been wired to my bank and I have not seen a penny yet.

Play where you know you will be paid and just because a site seems to be paying out good, isn't always a good sign, especially if they won't pay. you want a loose RTg site go to silver oak, but if you win you might never get your money. i will let you know if they pay me out, but I was winning nonstop on silveroak and couldn't believe how easy it was to hit bonus rounds. I have been doing good on jackpot Capital lately and have had lot's of bonus games on a lot of different slot machines. They seem tight sometimes, but i know if i win i get paid.

Cheers
 
question about "tightened RTG slots"

I have a question for those of you who claim that certain RTG casinos "tighten their slots." Can you tell me how you believe this mechanism works? I don't doubt that it may be true, but I am wondering how it happens.

I know of only two ways to "tighten slots." They are to lower the payouts or to change the outcomes so that fewer winning combinations, especially those involving bonus rounds or wilds. The former is easily determined by looking at the paytables. I have not seen any differences in paytables for RTGs, has anyone else?

The second way I believe involves affecting the stream of symbols (outcomes) that are sent by the third party (RTG) to the player. This would mean that RTG sells different RTP packages (not via changing the payouts) to casinos and that the probability of say getting a bonus round under one package is different than getting a bonus round under another package. Does anyone know if this is the case? Can anyone working for RTG confirm this? If it is done in secret, then that would require that no disguntled employee from RTG or any one of the casinos would ever make this public? In my opinion this would be very difficult to keep quiet.

Personally, I have always trusted RTG software (I don't trust proprietary softwares in many cases) but that does not mean that I am accurate. I am just trying to understand how the casino would "tighten the reels" and if this is likely or even possible.

Thanks in advance for any information you can share with me on this matter. I've read so much about "tightened reels" and reduced RTP that I am very interested in understanding how this is done.
 
LHofsdal said:
So I tried out Slotastic because is was accredited here. Made the playthrough and withdrew. All docs have been approved. I get this e-mail this morning:

Thank you for your patience regarding your withdrawal and Congratulations on your winnings!

Kindly note that the earliest withdrawals will be processed 7 days after your last eWalletXpress deposit was made. Your last deposit was made on Oct 1st, 2010.

Should you require any further information or assistance, please feel free to contact us at the below-mentioned telephone numbers and/or e-mail address.

Enjoy playing in the casino!

Yours Sincerely,

Kristy
Casino Support

Toll Free: 800-571-7009
Regular number: 678-349-0095
Fax number: 678-349-0096

Now, when you deposit with EwalletXpress, the funds have to be in your account. They don't credit you. SO why do I have to wait a week to get my winnings? Just doesn't sound right to me.

Any thoughts?

LH
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Hi LHofsdal,

Congratulations on your win and thank you for your patronage.

eWalletXpress does allow users instant funding from their checking account, such funds are available to be transferred to the casino account instantly, without having fully cleared through the banking system.

Since we as the casino have to cover non-clearance, we have to ensure all funds have been cleared fully before we send winnings back.

Clearing cycles differ between financial institutions and the processors involved, but we have found 7 days to be the maximum time frame we have seen so far, hence this waiting period.

Thank you for your understanding!

Kind regards,
Yasmeen :)
 
Jackpot Capital said:
Hi LHofsdal,

Congratulations on your win and thank you for your patronage.

eWalletXpress does allow users instant funding from their checking account, such funds are available to be transferred to the casino account instantly, without having fully cleared through the banking system.

Since we as the casino have to cover non-clearance, we have to ensure all funds have been cleared fully before we send winnings back.

Clearing cycles differ between financial institutions and the processors involved, but we have found 7 days to be the maximum time frame we have seen so far, hence this waiting period.

Thank you for your understanding!

Kind regards,
Yasmeen :)
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Ah, so it is not down to how long it ACTUALLY takes, but a fixed limit YOU have imposed based on this never having been exceeded before.

Many players have pointed out that it does NOT take 7 days for their particular deposit to "clear", and have thus considered this 7 days as being there so you can sit on the withdrawal for a couple of extra days and earn interest. This is just what the BANKS are up to with this "clearing cycle", they CAN clear overnight, but they use the extra few days to deposit these "clearing funds" on overnight deposit. This gives them large sums of money having their flow through the system interrupted for no reason other than that it allows the bank to earn a few days worth of interest, which goes 100% towards their income (the customer gets 0% of it).

Banks here in the UK are being forced to give up this "nice little earner", but they are doing so as SLOWLY as they can get away with.
 
I am not sure why they are so interested in my bank, because you can not deposit at a casino using ewalletexpress unless the funds are there. In my case, there was no bank involved. The money is in my account from previous winnings. So, to wait for checks to clear "my bank" is not the case here.

I just received an e-mail stating the my processing time will start on 10/8 because I made my deposit on 10/1. So I have to wait 7 days before they will process it.

But I did some checking this morning and so far out of the 14 different casinos I check this is the only group that requires you wait the 7 days. I had won over 7000 last week using deposits from ewalletexpress at another group, and the money was in my account withing 24 hours. There was not a waiting period.

Now that I know this, I highly doubt I will be depositing with this group again.

LH
 
LHofsdal said:
I am not sure why they are so interested in my bank, because you can not deposit at a casino using ewalletexpress unless the funds are there. In my case, there was no bank involved. The money is in my account from previous winnings. So, to wait for checks to clear "my bank" is not the case here.
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I didn't understand this either when Box24 did this to me until someone here explained it. Basically, the casino can't tell whether there are actual cash funds that have cleared sitting in your EWE account, or you if did a instant deposit and those funds have to clear. If it was a instant deposit and funds don't clear from your checking account, the casino is on the hook for it, not EWE.

Seven days is what Box24 told me which I thought was a bit long. It was only the first deposit though, no extended waits from then on.
 
LHofsdal said:
So I tried out Slotastic because is was accredited here. Made the playthrough and withdrew. All docs have been approved. I get this e-mail this morning:

Thank you for your patience regarding your withdrawal and Congratulations on your winnings!

Kindly note that the earliest withdrawals will be processed 7 days after your last eWalletXpress deposit was made. Your last deposit was made on Oct 1st, 2010.

Should you require any further information or assistance, please feel free to contact us at the below-mentioned telephone numbers and/or e-mail address.

Enjoy playing in the casino!

Yours Sincerely,

Kristy
Casino Support

Toll Free: 800-571-7009
Regular number: 678-349-0095
Fax number: 678-349-0096

Now, when you deposit with EwalletXpress, the funds have to be in your account. They don't credit you. SO why do I have to wait a week to get my winnings? Just doesn't sound right to me.

Any thoughts?

LH
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I closed my EWX account awhile ago because they were doing a bunch of stupid stuff, but Ray had the same issue with instadebit when he was using them - the deposit was available to play right away but the casino can't process a cashout until instadebit receives the funds from your bank or CC (a couple of days) then verifies it and sends the confirmation to the casino (a few more days) and then the casino has to verify it as well.

I assume it's because if you do an deposit and then go spend the money from your bank (or do a chargeback) before instadebit can get their hands on it, then it would be like the casino paid out on a deposit that was never actually made.
 
Its very hard to evaluate how tight the slots are in a particular casino because they are mostly high variance. I mostly get much more playtime in other casinos than in any RTG. With turbo play you drop like a rock even when lowrolling. I made two small deposits in two RTG casinos today and think I will give them a break for some time.

Cheers

Balky
 

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