America getting harder on CC

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Well another casino bit the dust with having trouble with CC transactions, first Inetbet now Clubworld! Atleast with me anyway. All of a sudden my CC transactions are being declined and I'm asked to try another method...here's the thing using another method would cause me to have to pay MORE in deposit fee and than withdrawal fee (taking in both ends) and to me I would rather just take a trip to casino than pay all those fees! So I guess it's quits for me until they can find a way around our bondage gov't! :mad:
 
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Yea the game is nearly up. A few die hards are left. But that will soon come to an end. Once the Republicans take full swing. I've been reading where Betonsoft casinos checks are bouncing now. The writing is on the wall. Online casinos have made billions off the American people. At what point is enough is enough?
 
Yea the game is nearly up. A few die hards are left. But that will soon come to an end. Once the Republicans take full swing. I've been reading where Betonsoft casinos checks are bouncing now. The writing is on the wall. Online casinos have made billions off the American people. At what point is enough is enough?

What ever happened to Barney Frank he was supposed to fight this ban on gambling for US citizens two yrs ago he promised to have it overturned and with all the Democrats in control for 1 1/2 yrs you would think he would have done it! ..another lying politician...go figure!
 
Oh it's not just credit cards, it's everything depositing period.
Apparently banks are being harder on eWallets progressively as time goes. They realize the game is basically over for now. Hey at least I've switched back to my B&M for now. Getting those nice $100 cash back coupons I can use twice a month. Getting 2 free steakhouse dinners for 2. Free room, the whole nine yards for dropping money into a casino. Versus the old style free bonus everything month with a max cashout of like $100 to $200. Something you really can't wire out of any casino anyways to actually enjoy.
Until the fees for playing online and the hoops a guy has to jump through to just play. Have settled down, I think like a few others I"m done trying to figure out who can take my debit card directly and who can't.
I really honestly can't wait til someone actually comes into the US when it's available and actually makes it more affordable to play here.
 
Goodmorning all...well now to make matters worse I wake up this morning check my bank account online and see that my deposit from Clubworld that WAS DECLINED yesterday was taken out of my bank account anyway and I never got to play it! I just got out of chat with CW informing them and they said they will turn it over to cashier and have to get back to me in email soooo, hopefully they will credit my account..I copied and pasted the transaction in my bank account to them proving what happened so they really have nothing else BUT to credit me..I would think! Will let everyone know what happens..in the mean timeI suggest EVERYONE that has had a declined cc CHECK their bank account to make sure it didn't go through anyway! :eek2:
 
Just make sure they aren't going to make you wait the "5-7 business" days to return your money to you. I've read where some players are going through this, the casinos are treating these screwups as withdrawals. Years ago, before I found CM, I had gone through this with a rogue casino.. then it took almost a month for them to return my money. Good luck!
 
It could be your bank gave them authorization, yet somehow the processor saw it as a decline. Therefore there might be a very good chance your transaction won't be processed anyways. I've had this happen before where my deposit was declined, yet money was taken out of my bank. Took me almost 2 weeks to get my money back. Not because of the casinos fault, but it took my bank the 2 weeks to release the hold on the money.
Sorry it happened, but I have 2 cents betting that there probably going to tell you the processor got a decline versus an approval. Therefore you'll probably have to wait and ride out the authorization hold time you bank has set forth.
The best they might do is give you a small free chip for the inconvience for having your money tied up for so long.
 
Wow I am shocked to see all this trouble depositing :( I just made one 5 minutes ago with no problems, and had a bank wire hit this morning once again with no problems. I refuse to use 3rd parties to deposit. If that day ever comes, I will end online gaming and stick to B & M.
 
Wow I am shocked to see all this trouble depositing :( I just made one 5 minutes ago with no problems, and had a bank wire hit this morning once again with no problems. I refuse to use 3rd parties to deposit. If that day ever comes, I will end online gaming and stick to B & M.

My NS MasterCard doesn't work anywhere any more. Anybody getting a prepaid card to work?
 
It could be your bank gave them authorization, yet somehow the processor saw it as a decline. Therefore there might be a very good chance your transaction won't be processed anyways. I've had this happen before where my deposit was declined, yet money was taken out of my bank. Took me almost 2 weeks to get my money back. Not because of the casinos fault, but it took my bank the 2 weeks to release the hold on the money.
Sorry it happened, but I have 2 cents betting that there probably going to tell you the processor got a decline versus an approval. Therefore you'll probably have to wait and ride out the authorization hold time you bank has set forth.
The best they might do is give you a small free chip for the inconvience for having your money tied up for so long.


GM all, well I just got an email from CW and here's what they said..

Hi Lisa,

Thank you for contacting customer support,

I have double checked with cashier regarding the transaction ID number 4546713.

Cashier has told me this charge should drop back into your account within 24 hours if you are still having problems please feel free to get back to us.

If you have any further questions please don’t hesitate to get back to us as we are here 24/7.

Kind Regards,

Alex

Customer Support
ClubWorldCasinos


Seem's CW is doing their best to get things taken care of fast and I appreciate it, hopefully I will see the money in bank account tomorrow! Although, i'm not sure why CW didn't just credit my account and let me play it since it already went through, wouldn't that have been easier?
 
Wow I am shocked to see all this trouble depositing :( I just made one 5 minutes ago with no problems, and had a bank wire hit this morning once again with no problems. I refuse to use 3rd parties to deposit. If that day ever comes, I will end online gaming and stick to B & M.

Curious, what bank you have and what cc type your using? You can tell me in email if you don't want it on board. ;)
 
Curious, what bank you have and what cc type your using? You can tell me in email if you don't want it on board. ;)

Hes playing at VT casinos who are miscoding the transactions to force them through.........or he was.....I think most RTG's still miscode as well....a little hit and miss though.

I got my new Regions debit card the other day. When you call to activate it said "if you will be using this card for international transactions please press #1. I did and I was told by the automated voice that I had to sign an affadavit to use my debit card for international transactions....:eek::eek: ummm how about NO
 
Hes playing at VT casinos who are miscoding the transactions to force them through.........or he was.....I think most RTG's still miscode as well....a little hit and miss though.

I got my new Regions debit card the other day. When you call to activate it said "if you will be using this card for international transactions please press #1. I did and I was told by the automated voice that I had to sign an affadavit to use my debit card for international transactions....:eek::eek: ummm how about NO

So, what about the MILLIONS of Americans who have no idea about online gambling, don't do it, never have, never will; BUT who often use their card on holiday abroad, or when using services like eBay, or just general internet shopping. They are going to say WTF is all this about, and may give their banks a hard time. It is going to look like a ban has been imposed on ALL international transactions, and Americans are going to wonder why the sudden and DRACONIAN restriction on spending their money abroad.

Those who DO play online, well, they know the game, and are hardly going to ADMIT this to their bank, much less sign a legal document.

I bet the "top brass" in many companies use their cards overseas on their many business trips. I bet they aren't going to be happy when the banks start asking them all to sign these affadavit forms - they are going to take exception to the prying into their business affairs, and company execs do NOT "just sign legal documents", they have them looked over by company lawyers, who check whether they will be used against them by their enemies, or land them in trouble years in the future.

Members of Congress probably use their cards abroad, are they going to be "let off". This alone might create a media scandal of "one law for us, another for them".

Well, the banks DID protest that enforcement would create more problems than the issue itself, but the Treasury didn't listen.
 
All I can say is......

[/QUOTE]I got my new Regions debit card the other day. When you call to activate it said "if you will be using this card for international transactions please press #1. I did and I was told by the automated voice that I had to sign an affadavit to use my debit card for international transactions....:eek::eek: ummm how about NO[/QUOTE]

WOW!:eek: Unbelievable!

The snowball effect will soon begin as a result of this nonsense. Millions of Americans (non-gamblers) use their CCs for purchases/excursions over seas. Financial institutions will bleed money as a result of trying to enforce this rule. Who will pay the highest price, financially? Us, the consumer. OY!

Christine
 
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Curious, what bank you have and what cc type your using? You can tell me in email if you don't want it on board. ;)

My bank and cc company i sent u a private message, as for my casinos, they are Riverbelle and English Harbour. I am done with EH though, they charge for withdraws, ridiculous.
 
So in other words like I said in my previous post the charge didn't go through. There just guessing your charge should drop back into you acount tomorrow because they never plan on using the authorization. Yet I would call your bank and find out how long they hold transactions. If they hold it longer than a week, I would ask how one could get the hold released. Especially if it's for a rather large sum. If it's only for a small sum then the bank might just tell you wait til the authorization time expires.
For most banks this could be as little as 24 hours up to 30 days. It just varies on how long the bank is willing to hold your money to see if the merchant settles. The merchant has already told you there not going to take the money, so now you just gotta find out how long they hold onto it.
GM all, well I just got an email from CW and here's what they said..

Hi Lisa,

Thank you for contacting customer support,

I have double checked with cashier regarding the transaction ID number 4546713.

Cashier has told me this charge should drop back into your account within 24 hours if you are still having problems please feel free to get back to us.

If you have any further questions please don’t hesitate to get back to us as we are here 24/7.

Kind Regards,

Alex

Customer Support
ClubWorldCasinos


Seem's CW is doing their best to get things taken care of fast and I appreciate it, hopefully I will see the money in bank account tomorrow! Although, i'm not sure why CW didn't just credit my account and let me play it since it already went through, wouldn't that have been easier?
 
So in other words like I said in my previous post the charge didn't go through. There just guessing your charge should drop back into you acount tomorrow because they never plan on using the authorization. Yet I would call your bank and find out how long they hold transactions. If they hold it longer than a week, I would ask how one could get the hold released. Especially if it's for a rather large sum. If it's only for a small sum then the bank might just tell you wait til the authorization time expires.
For most banks this could be as little as 24 hours up to 30 days. It just varies on how long the bank is willing to hold your money to see if the merchant settles. The merchant has already told you there not going to take the money, so now you just gotta find out how long they hold onto it.

This is so confusing to me absolutely ridiculous what we have to go through to spend our OWN money the way we choose! I will wait a few days if money is not in account I will first call CW and than the bank. Thanks for all the info cheetahwind! :)
 
Essentially to give you the simple side of credit / debit cards.

First when a merchant swipes the card there asking the bank whether theres money to the transaction. Also called an authorization or an approval number.
This will then automatically show up in most online banking as a pending transaction now these days.
Lots of hotels and car rental places use these types of transactions frequently to see if you have the money available to cover incidentals. Such as phone calls, restaurant meals, damages to the car etc etc.
Then eventually when the merchant is ready to take the money, they do as a settlement to your bank. Then the bank will release the money to the merchant and then it will no longer show as pending or sometimes will show as settled.
Sometimes in the previous scenarios explained. That extra money taken would then be released because they said they wouldn't use it.
But here's where the above gets sticky.
Sometimes if you pay for everything with cash. Sometimes they'll never seek to settle the transaction.
So this is where sometimes the transaction will hang. Where they won't settle it or actually ask for the money.
If you know the merchant isn't going to ask for the money then sometimes you can ask the merchant to fax the bank to release the money early. In the case of online gaming more than likely they won't do that because then they'd more than likely have to reveal the true nature of the transaction.
So really then what you have to wait for is a authorization expiration. Which for most banks I've seen is 10 business days. I have seen some last for up to 30 days. I would be first calling your bank to ask how long they put these authorization holds on for. They might give you a varied explanation but that way you know what to expect.
This is so confusing to me absolutely ridiculous what we have to go through to spend our OWN money the way we choose! I will wait a few days if money is not in account I will first call CW and than the bank. Thanks for all the info cheetahwind! :)
 

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