Rogue Announcement Affpower Casinos - ripped off NetEnt Games

[Keith Addy]

yes atlantic have pulled netent as well.
asked why

We have been provided with proof that the games are genuine.
They were taken down until the completion of the inquiry and they will be back up in a short time.

 

[FeC]

Hello Keith (and hello all, just opened a presentation thread. Thanks Casinomeister for the acceptance!),

can I ask what kind of proofs you saw, please?
I tried to ask them but they pulled me out from Skype... lol

P.s.: Triomphe, Game Tech N.V. (related to AffPower and Conan LTD), same story. Fake games, not only by NetEnt.

 

[FeC]

They were taken down until the completion of the inquiry and they will be back up in a short time.

Ah, I see...
Then, they used hosts like:

netent-static.casinomodyle.com
netent-static.casinomodulle.com

...the next host will be?

 

[jetset]

I think these folks are probably feeling more than just the pressure from NetEnt (I honestly doubt that Curacao is doing very much - they rarely do), but the story has been appearing on several more newsletters and publications across the Web, spreading the word on the questionable use of fake NetEnt games.

 

[Keith Addy]

Hello Keith (and hello all, just opened a presentation thread. Thanks Casinomeister for the acceptance!),

can I ask what kind of proofs you saw, please?
I tried to ask them but they pulled me out from Skype... lol

P.s.: Triomphe, Game Tech N.V. (related to AffPower and Conan LTD), same story. Fake games, not only by NetEnt.

I never saw any proof. The site itself has updated their games albeit different suppliers it looks like a desperate move.
I am only gutted as i have lost a lot on that site and trying to redeem my money back.
I think i have been affected by the scam directly because i had a ridiculous win spin session in thousands and it crashed half way through.
What makes me sick is that they say they contacted netent about the bug but obviously they didnt.
gutted .

 

[Casinomeister]

I never saw any proof. The site itself has updated their games albeit different suppliers it looks like a desperate move.
I am only gutted as i have lost a lot on that site and trying to redeem my money back.
I think i have been affected by the scam directly because i had a ridiculous win spin session in thousands and it crashed half way through.
What makes me sick is that they say they contacted netent about the bug but obviously they didnt.
gutted .

These people need to be drummed out of the business. Scandalous - and it damages everyone in this industry. Players, affiliates, honest casino operations - everyone.

 

[FeC]

These people need to be drummed out of the business. Scandalous - and it damages everyone in this industry. Players, affiliates, honest casino operations - everyone.

We started a "teach and warn campaign" on our blog. Just published an article where we point on how much dangerous is to play in dodgy casinos and their fake games.
Soon a short handy guide on how to catch fake games and fake casinos will be live soon.

I'm doing as much as I can, tweets, FB posts, posts on industry forums. BTW, I see few reactions on this matter... CM, LCB, OCreviewer (Webzcas) and few others reacted...

 

[Webzcas]

I have blacklisted AffPower - which can be found here:

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Now to create individual blacklist pages for their casinos.

 

[Casinomeister]

I have blacklisted AffPower - which can be found here:

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Now to create individual blacklist pages for their casinos.

I sense your frustration there. I feel your pain.

By the way - still no comment from the licensing agency

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. And no comment from the affiliate manager at Affpower.

This is absolutely despicable the way this has been handled. The licensing jurisdiction should have never let this happen. This underscores the incompetency of this agency that is supposed to be protecting players.

 

[Webzcas]

I have been sent this to one of my Facebook Pages today

 

[Casinomeister]

I have been sent this to one of my Facebook Pages today

FFS!!

 

[FeC]

Same here, but on May 5th I got this:



I replied back on May 10th.



Silly guys

 

[Casinomeister]

 

[Webzcas]

Looks like at least one shill for Affpower has turned up on AGD.

Apparently we will be having to say sorry for casting Affpower to the kerb soon.

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[Casinomeister]

Looks like at least one shill for Affpower has turned up on AGD.

Apparently we will be having to say sorry for casting Affpower to the kerb soon.

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Yeah, right.

I am in direct contact with NetEnt, and they stated that these were not their servers. These games were being run by the casino without any licensing agreement. They were pirated, and that's a fact.

NetEnt as well as Novomatic deal with these issues of pirated software on a regular basis, so I don't think that they plan to put out a press release each time this happens. That's just a waste of time. What they do do is take whatever measures possible to have the particular casino shut the games off. And as most people have noticed, the pirated NetEnt games have disappeared. From what I know, the Curacao egaming licensor has told the casinos to remove the games, or that their license would be revoked <gasp - oh no! >. But who knows how long these casinos were able to run these games?

I have given Affpower several opportunities to make a public statement, so far nothing. Not a peep. The ball is in their court. In my opinion, they can either deny all of this (implausible) or just admit that they got caught.

Further, that person stated that 85% of the online gaming business is in Israel - I think he meant to say that 85% of the rogue activity is coming out of Israel.

Anyway, Affpower is welcome to be part of the conversation. I'd like to hear from them their explanation - truthful with no nonsense.

I would also like to hear what plans are being made to refund the deposits of players who played these games. I guess we'll wait and see.

But then, I may be wrong and will have to apologize for all of this.

 

[brianmon]

What about the games other than NetEnt and Novomatic?

If they're all fake, it's a little ironic that they'd copy the 'Casinomeister' slot, lol

 

[dunover]

Yeah, right.

I am in direct contact with NetEnt, and they stated that these were not their servers. These games were being run by the casino without any licensing agreement. They were pirated, and that's a fact.

NetEnt as well as Novomatic deal with these issues of pirated software on a regular basis, so I don't think that they plan to put out a press release each time this happens. That's just a waste of time. What they do do is take whatever measures possible to have the particular casino shut the games off. And as most people have noticed, the pirated NetEnt games have disappeared. From what I know, the Curacao egaming licensor has told the casinos to remove the games, or that their license would be revoked <gasp - oh no! >. But who knows how long these casinos were able to run these games?

I have given Affpower several opportunities to make a public statement, so far nothing. Not a peep. The ball is in their court. In my opinion, they can either deny all of this (implausible) or just admit that they got caught.

Further, that person stated that 85% of the online gaming business is in Israel - I think he meant to say that 85% of the rogue activity is coming out of Israel.

Anyway, Affpower is welcome to be part of the conversation. I'd like to hear from them their explanation - truthful with no nonsense.

I would also like to hear what plans are being made to refund the deposits of players who played these games. I guess we'll wait and see.

But then, I may be wrong and will have to apologize for all of this.

There is another angle to possibly attack here - these scum need money, which in turn needs means of transfer to the scum. Is there any way of demonstrating to the various payment wallets, card companies etc. that their services are being used to facilitate the purchase of stolen/fraudulent products??
Cut the blood supply off, and the tumour or parasite dies. It's simple - if it can be done. If a trusted medium such as CM had access to a 'hotline' with these payment services, the parasite would die before it can suck its second drop of blood.

 

[benmooe]

All of these fake netent servers all seem to be loading their games off of ssl.apipay4p.com:2053

Their SSL is shared with domains play777gaming.biz, casinomodyle.com, apigames.info and casinomodules.com

Tech Name: Tatiana Moraru
Tech Organization:
Tech Street: Hincesty 23
Tech City: hincesti
Tech State/Province: Attika
Tech Postal Code: 16561
Tech Country: GR
Tech Phone: +30.23453876

List of domain names registered by scorpios_ath@hotmail.com
Domain Name Create Date Registrar
myslot.biz 2015-02-19 (registration services) whois.godaddy.com
vegas7games.biz 2014-12-22 (registration services) whois.godaddy.com
casinovr.biz 2016-01-24 (registration services) whois.godaddy.com
videobet.biz 2016-04-26 (registration services) whois.godaddy.com
apigames.info 2015-05-09 godaddy.com, llc (r171-lrms)
myslot.info 2015-02-19 godaddy.com, llc (r171-lrms)

A lot of the other domains have domain privacy enabled and they hide the web server behind cloudflare so i can't be more investigative unfortunately.

 

[Casinomeister]

Well, several more days have gone by without a peep from Affpower - nor Curacao-egaming.

And of all the forums they should be members of, they chose not to be members here. Eh?

We have probably the most balanced approach - we have knowledge, experience, and tact. The perfect place to debate all of this is here at Casinomeister, and we don't have their input or perspective in order to put this to rest. How disappointing.

 

[Biti]

They'll be at AAC. If a debate makes sense. They will deny it anway, like they always deny everything. For sure they have their affiliate managers instructed very well what to say. Just like very conference. And those affiliate managers acting the innocent guys, while they're working knowing and willing for this group.

I really wonder why they're still tolerated at conferences. They're damaging this business so much.

 

[Casinomeister]

They'll be at AAC. If a debate makes sense. They will deny it anway, like they always deny everything. For sure they have their affiliate managers instructed very well what to say. Just like very conference. And those affiliate managers acting the innocent guys, while they're working knowing and willing for this group.

I really wonder why they're still tolerated at conferences. They're damaging this business so much.

They'll be wandering the floor I'm sure, but they won't have a booth. There is nothing to debate, the games were stolen and it's been proven. The only thing they can come up with is that they are coming from a parallel universe where the games weren't stolen.

 

[Captain Chaos]

They'll be wandering the floor I'm sure, but they won't have a booth. There is nothing to debate, the games were stolen and it's been proven. The only thing they can come up with is that they are coming from a parallel universe where the games weren't stolen.

Or claim they were just borrowing them and the silly sausages at NetEnt forgot!

 

[Casinomeister]

Or claim they were just borrowing them and the silly sausages at NetEnt forgot!

I'm in direct contact with the silly sausages. There was nothing to forget.

 

[spintee]

Abit concerning, Just had an email and they used my full name?

 

[Biti]

I got that spam too more than five times a day.