888 casino and 3dice thoughts ?

[gid88]

Hi, just wondering what people think of 888 casino. I joined about a month ago and have been hitting pretty good wins (albeit on pretty big bets). Not sure if their jackpot slots are linked but they seem to go off quite regularly, never goes past 18k before someone hits it (whenever i login i always see it back at 8k). They seem to be a casino targeted at the high end gambler.

Their live casino is good if you have a good stream, i was shocked to see the number of big VIP gamblers playing BJ there, betting 5K a hand.

Anyway, so far they have been good in my eyes, would prefer a few more slot options. Have an issue with one outstanding payment, but other than that, I think a fairly worthwhile casino.

Comparing it to 3dice. Is this casino known to have low RTP ? 7K deposit went within 3 hours, so i asked for a life ban. Luckily won it back on 888 that same night. Every time I sign up a 3dice i always get sucked in with their great customer service (which is good, Enzo and Anna are very friendly), but their slots are really tight. Probably lost over 30K there in the past 6-12 months. Maybe just not a casino for semi-high rollers.

 

[rainmaker]

They are not known to have low RTP, but they are known to have high variance games. So you should probably have lowered your bets. It would indicate to me that you have betted too high if you have lost 7000 in 3hours on slots.

Anyway, good luck with your play

 

[Nifty29]

Hi, just wondering what people think of 888 casino. I joined about a month ago and have been hitting pretty good wins (albeit on pretty big bets). Not sure if their jackpot slots are linked but they seem to go off quite regularly, never goes past 18k before someone hits it (whenever i login i always see it back at 8k). They seem to be a casino targeted at the high end gambler.

Their live casino is good if you have a good stream, i was shocked to see the number of big VIP gamblers playing BJ there, betting 5K a hand.

Anyway, so far they have been good in my eyes, would prefer a few more slot options. Have an issue with one outstanding payment, but other than that, I think a fairly worthwhile casino.

Comparing it to 3dice. Is this casino known to have low RTP ? 7K deposit went within 3 hours, so i asked for a life ban. Luckily won it back on 888 that same night. Every time I sign up a 3dice i always get sucked in with their great customer service (which is good, Enzo and Anna are very friendly), but their slots are really tight. Probably lost over 30K there in the past 6-12 months. Maybe just not a casino for semi-high rollers.

When I went to download 888 it said I was in a region where casino games were not offered.

How were you able to create an account? Did you check with them to confirm Australians can play?

 

[mattsgame]

When I went to download 888 it said I was in a region where casino games were not offered.

How were you able to create an account? Did you check with them to confirm Australians can play?

I was also under this impression that 888 did not accept Australian players in there casino but they did for Poker. So would be interesting to hear how the OP signed up or if they get paid.


To answer the OP. TBH I would be sticking with 3Dice (out of the 2 you mentioned) and just lowering my bets a bit, there slots are high variance so when you do eventually hit its usually something nice. At least with 3Dice you know you will get paid and promptly, 888 casino has to much of a shady past for my liking.

Cheers
Matt

 

[Seventh777]

Regarding 3Dice, a breakdown... I have been gambling online for around 3 years and most of my play has been at MSG casinos including those UK brands that use MGS as well as other software (Sky Vegas, Virgin, Ladbroke`s etc), I have deposited at over 60 MGS casino`s and a select few I have regularly played at, in this time I have never had an actual jackpot and only ever hit 5 scatters once on - Break Da Bank Again (which bared hardly any significance whatsoever as it has no monetary value nor winnings multiplier just more free spins).

There are also a few other casinos I have used, out of these there is only one I have played at more than once----3Dice, I have made a few deposits here and nearly as many withdrawals, in my short time here I have hit this, which was my 1st ever 5 scatters....



And a week ago, this.....



Also, I have played in more free roll tournaments than I care to mention and apart from a recent win had never won once, at 3Dice however I have won around 5-8 and one I managed to make the w/r and have a nice withdrawal.

So in the nutshell, okay we have MGS and other software slots with their awesome jackpots and uber features, Wildstorm and £2430 for a .30p bet for eg, but, and it`s a big but, how many people have ever won one of these?, I can honestly say I must have wagered in excess of £1 million through TSII since it`s release, my deposits over the past year are well over 50k and most of that has been spent playing this slot and the best i`ve had is x3 wildstorms twice, I would virtually guarantee that the same money used playing any chosen 3Dice slot would have netted the big one .

Some advice...Go back to 3Dice and get to know the slots via tournaments, and try again .

P.S.

Go take a wander through the screenshot section, see how many from 3Dice are there and think to yourself that 3Dice is a standalone unique one off casino, whereas there are 1000`s of players using the various other software providers whom have posted screenies.

 

[Nifty29]

I was also under this impression that 888 did not accept Australian players in there casino but they did for Poker. So would be interesting to hear how the OP signed up or if they get paid.


To answer the OP. TBH I would be sticking with 3Dice (out of the 2 you mentioned) and just lowering my bets a bit, there slots are high variance so when you do eventually hit its usually something nice. At least with 3Dice you know you will get paid and promptly, 888 casino has to much of a shady past for my liking.

Cheers
Matt

Yes there is something going on there. I hope the player isn't pulling a fast one.

When Rachel gets back I will ask her.

 

[gid88]

Yes there is something going on there. I hope the player isn't pulling a fast one.

When Rachel gets back I will ask her.

I'm actually based in Asia (travel constantly through the region), but use an Australian CC to deposit. They were quite strict on the verification process and even called me on the Asian cell number I gave them to confirm my identity. I had no troubles depositing and receiving cash outs (bar one that's being looked into). Their cash out has an AUD option, so I assume they would take Aussie players.

As for 3dice, the RTP's on even their medium variance games I feel are low. After depositing and losing initial 4K playing a mixture of high and medium variance I chatted with one of their reps who informed me I should try hitting big on the medium variance (they have no low variance games . 3K later playing ONLY the medium variance, was back to zero with very minimal feature hits and very low feature wins. Oh well, maybe it's just me that has no luck at 3dice.

I'm not an affiliate of any casino, just a regular player giving an opinion.

 

[gid88]

Yes there is something going on there. I hope the player isn't pulling a fast one.

When Rachel gets back I will ask her.

A fast one ? not sure what the implication is there. I've ever only pulled a fast one on TIV and that was just due to insider knowledge. AND they deserved it !!

 

[gid88]

Regarding 3Dice, a breakdown... I have been gambling online for around 3 years and most of my play has been at MSG casinos including those UK brands that use MGS as well as other software (Sky Vegas, Virgin, Ladbroke`s etc), I have deposited at over 60 MGS casino`s and a select few I have regularly played at, in this time I have never had an actual jackpot and only ever hit 5 scatters once on - Break Da Bank Again (which bared hardly any significance whatsoever as it has no monetary value nor winnings multiplier just more free spins).

There are also a few other casinos I have used, out of these there is only one I have played at more than once----3Dice, I have made a few deposits here and nearly as many withdrawals, in my short time here I have hit this, which was my 1st ever 5 scatters....

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And a week ago, this.....

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Also, I have played in more free roll tournaments than I care to mention and apart from a recent win had never won once, at 3Dice however I have won around 5-8 and one I managed to make the w/r and have a nice withdrawal.

So in the nutshell, okay we have MGS and other software slots with their awesome jackpots and uber features, Wildstorm and £2430 for a .30p bet for eg, but, and it`s a big but, how many people have ever won one of these?, I can honestly say I must have wagered in excess of £1 million through TSII since it`s release, my deposits over the past year are well over 50k and most of that has been spent playing this slot and the best i`ve had is x3 wildstorms twice, I would virtually guarantee that the same money used playing any chosen 3Dice slot would have netted the big one .

Some advice...Go back to 3Dice and get to know the slots via tournaments, and try again .

P.S.

Go take a wander through the screenshot section, see how many from 3Dice are there and think to yourself that 3Dice is a standalone unique one off casino, whereas there are 1000`s of players using the various other software providers whom have posted screenies.

I'm of the opinion that the variance on the slots during tournament play might be different to cash play.

 

[Nifty29]

I'm of the opinion that the variance on the slots during tournament play might be different to cash play.

You're entitled to your opinion, but you are wrong.

What "fast one" did you pull on TIV? What kind of "insider knowledge" could you have that could help you? I'm fascinated.

My understanding is that they don't accept Australian residents/citizens in the casino. If this applies to you, I would be careful as they may decide not to pay you on those grounds.

 

[gid88]

You're entitled to your opinion, but you are wrong.

What "fast one" did you pull on TIV? What kind of "insider knowledge" could you have that could help you? I'm fascinated.

My understanding is that they don't accept Australian residents/citizens in the casino. If this applies to you, I would be careful as they may decide not to pay you on those grounds.

You're entitled to yours as well. But you are wrong. Just be happy in your world that you're right, I'll be happy in mine that I am

I won't disclose what happened at TIV. They know, I know, we'll leave it at that.

I've deposited and cashed out successfully at 888. But i guess in your mind I'm wrong about that ? Intrigued.....

 

[gloria460]

You're entitled to your opinion, but you are wrong.

What "fast one" did you pull on TIV? What kind of "insider knowledge" could you have that could help you? I'm fascinated.

My understanding is that they don't accept Australian residents/citizens in the casino. If this applies to you, I would be careful as they may decide not to pay you on those grounds.

Nifty you were knee deep in that thread...has old age got the best of you?...lol anyways Max posted a link as I had forgot to. That thread was one of the reasons that white labels are not recommended and Max and Bryan sided with gid88.

 

[3Dice]

Hi Gid88,

First off, I'm fully aware of the fact that my position renders idle any and all opinions I may have as to whether or not 3Dice would be a good place for you or anyone to play at. But I know you weren't born yesterday so perhaps I can add something productive to the discussion in the form of some numbers.

First off, 3Dice publishes live updating RTP data (which is quite unique if I'm not mistaking) which can be found on the 3Dice zeitgeist from our home page or from the slots menu. Not only rtp data but a heap of other facts and stats are posted there, including recent wins, screenshots and payout data.

Regarding your own personal play there's two things I can easily note. First off, yes you had bad luck - but with that the second point one would have to note is you did play high-risk .. less than 5k games in total keeps the range of possible outcomes very high - which includes both mud and gold - and unfortunately its been mostly mud for you.

I regret that - as a casino operator you can go out of your way - and work - to provide exceptional service, inventive games and unrivaled payouts - but alas you can never pick luck. And from a player's point of view - its only when you hit a good big hit that you even get to see the fast payouts or the great service (where you can notice its not just lip service to get you to deposit). A player that starts off with bad luck simply doesn't get to see all of that.

I'm not so naive to think that 3Dice's offering would be exceptional enough to overcome that (well not in public anyway ) - and at the end of the day you need to play where you feel comfortable - At some point you might feel like giving 3dice another shot and when you do you can still count on that service being there. Untill then, remember, you can't pick when you'll get lucky - but you can pick where.

Respectfully,

Enzo

 

[H1_Roller]

Hi Gid88,

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Respectfully,

Enzo

:notworthy

Well said.

 

[gid88]

Hi Gid88,

First off, I'm fully aware of the fact that my position renders idle any and all opinions I may have as to whether or not 3Dice would be a good place for you or anyone to play at. But I know you weren't born yesterday so perhaps I can add something productive to the discussion in the form of some numbers.

First off, 3Dice publishes live updating RTP data (which is quite unique if I'm not mistaking) which can be found on the 3Dice zeitgeist from our home page or from the slots menu. Not only rtp data but a heap of other facts and stats are posted there, including recent wins, screenshots and payout data.

Regarding your own personal play there's two things I can easily note. First off, yes you had bad luck - but with that the second point one would have to note is you did play high-risk .. less than 5k games in total keeps the range of possible outcomes very high - which includes both mud and gold - and unfortunately its been mostly mud for you.

I regret that - as a casino operator you can go out of your way - and work - to provide exceptional service, inventive games and unrivaled payouts - but alas you can never pick luck. And from a player's point of view - its only when you hit a good big hit that you even get to see the fast payouts or the great service (where you can notice its not just lip service to get you to deposit). A player that starts off with bad luck simply doesn't get to see all of that.

I'm not so naive to think that 3Dice's offering would be exceptional enough to overcome that (well not in public anyway ) - and at the end of the day you need to play where you feel comfortable - At some point you might feel like giving 3dice another shot and when you do you can still count on that service being there. Untill then, remember, you can't pick when you'll get lucky - but you can pick where.

Respectfully,

Enzo

I appreciate that reply Enzo, again...i was purely expressing an opinion, perhaps not necessarily a fact (well the fact is I did lose alot of $$). This was just my "opnion" of my play at your casino. If we can't have a forum to state our opinions and how we feel about casinos that each of us play at...then what's the point of having a forum discussion ? And of course, you have a right of reply to any thread where your casino is mentioned.

My "opinion" is that your casino is unlucky for me, especially over the past 6-9 months that i've been playing there. I've lost alot and not won much after depositing a fair amount of $$. Obviously there are players out there that may have had a better experience.

Like i said. In my "opinion" i think your casino absolutley deserves its awards for customer service, but in terms on returns compared to other casinos I have played at, its been one of the worse for me...again just stating my experiences, and my experineces have led me to "feel" that your rtp's are low even on the medium variance slots.

Nothing wrong with expressing my experience is there ?

cheers.

 

[Nifty29]

I appreciate that reply Enzo, again...i was purely expressing an opinion, perhaps not necessarily a fact (well the fact is I did lose alot of $$). This was just my "opnion" of my play at your casino. If we can't have a forum to state our opinions and how we feel about casinos that each of us play at...then what's the point of having a forum discussion ? And of course, you have a right of reply to any thread where your casino is mentioned.

My "opinion" is that your casino is unlucky for me, especially over the past 6-9 months that i've been playing there. I've lost alot and not won much after depositing a fair amount of $$. Obviously there are players out there that may have had a better experience.

Like i said. In my "opinion" i think your casino absolutley deserves its awards for customer service, but in terms on returns compared to other casinos I have played at, its been one of the worse for me...again just stating my experiences, and my experineces have led me to "feel" that your rtp's are low even on the medium variance slots.

Nothing wrong with expressing my experience is there ?

cheers.

Just accept that you're wrong. The evidence is right there.

There's nothing wrong with expressing an opinion, but when it involves accusing an operator of cheating or dishonesty (and you did do that) then you should be prepared to come up with better reasons than "I lost".

Considering you've had less than 5000 spins, its laughable that you could even begin to make accusations....oops I mean express opinions...like that.

 

[mattsgame]

You're entitled to your opinion, but you are wrong.

What "fast one" did you pull on TIV? What kind of "insider knowledge" could you have that could help you? I'm fascinated.

My understanding is that they don't accept Australian residents/citizens in the casino. If this applies to you, I would be careful as they may decide not to pay you on those grounds.

I think the OP maybe referring to this.

TIV 80k

I'm lost, still trying to see the 'fast one'.
Maybe the OP can explain a bit more on what they mean.
Because to 'pull a fast one' would mean he was not entirely honest before,
or are we just talking about because you won 80k?

 

[milemaster]

Oops

Wrong thread

 

[gid88]

Just accept that you're wrong. The evidence is right there.

There's nothing wrong with expressing an opinion, but when it involves accusing an operator of cheating or dishonesty (and you did do that) then you should be prepared to come up with better reasons than "I lost".

Considering you've had less than 5000 spins, its laughable that you could even begin to make accusations....oops I mean express opinions...like that.

Not sure what evidence you are referring to ??

I never accused the operator of cheating or being dishonest, that's tantamount to libel on your part. I simply expressed that I felt in my "opinion" their RTP's weren't that great compared to my play at 888 casino.

Laughable ? it's laughable that you seemingly want to turn people's open comments and discussions into your own interpretation of what they are saying..which is wrong and disrespectful.

Can I ask, are you an affiliate of 3dice ?

 

[gid88]

I think the OP maybe referring to this.

TIV 80k

I'm lost, still trying to see the 'fast one'.
Maybe the OP can explain a bit more on what they mean.
Because to 'pull a fast one' would mean he was not entirely honest before,
or are we just talking about because you won 80k?

I'm lost too, still trying to figure out what Nifty was referring to - pulling a fast one wrt my comments on 3dice. My PAB with TIV through CM was closed off, however subsequent events occurred where I financially benefitted. I've been completely honest wrt to my comments and posts and expressing (for the benefit of Nifty), my "OPINIONS".

Are opinions allowed on this forum ? Nifty, what do you think ? you ever expressed an opinion ? or is everything you say pure fact - i'm thinking youre thinking the latter.

 

[Cleveland]

:eat:

 

[Nifty29]

Not sure what evidence you are referring to ??

I never accused the operator of cheating or being dishonest, that's tantamount to libel on your part. I simply expressed that I felt in my "opinion" their RTP's weren't that great compared to my play at 888 casino.

Laughable ? it's laughable that you seemingly want to turn people's open comments and discussions into your own interpretation of what they are saying..which is wrong and disrespectful.

Can I ask, are you an affiliate of 3dice ?

Libel. Oh god stop it my abs are killing me. Lol

You "opined" that their tourney rtp was set higher than real play, and that their rtps for real play are lower than other casinos. The casino insists otherwise, and has provided evidence. Hence, you are inferring/ stating that they are lying and being dishonest.

You say I "accused" you of something that wasn't true.....which is exactly what YOU did to 3dice. So when I say it, it is libel, but when you say it, it is an opinion. LOL. Typical MO of those who don't know what they're talking about.

If you had said "well I've won more or lost less at 888 than 3dice" or "my results have been better at Xx casino than 3dice" or even "I like Xx casino better than 3dice".....well that's completely different. However, what you did was make sweeping statements about 3dice as a whole and how they operate, for which you should provide evidence (your own rtp over 5k spins isn't evidence) or be prepared to be called out for not knowing what you're talking about......which I did.

Am I an affiliate for 3dice? Well that's for me to know and you to find out.....suffice it to say, I must admit in the name of honesty that I have been paid by them in the past. It is irrelevant IMO.

 

[Nifty29]

I think the OP maybe referring to this.

TIV 80k

I'm lost, still trying to see the 'fast one'.
Maybe the OP can explain a bit more on what they mean.
Because to 'pull a fast one' would mean he was not entirely honest before,
or are we just talking about because you won 80k?

He obviously did something dishonest (let's face it he is a known chargebacker) or he would just tell US what happened.

I have to say that after what I went through with TIV I won't be shedding any tears, but IMO two wrongs don't make a right either.

 

[gid88]

Libel. Oh god stop it my abs are killing me. Lol.i

You "opined" that their tourney rtp was set higher than real play, and that their rtps for real play are lower than other casinos. The casino insists otherwise, and has provided evidence. Hence, you are inferring/ stating that they are lying and being dishonest.

You say I "accused" you of something that wasn't true.....which is exactly what YOU did to 3dice. So when I say it, it is libel, but when you say it, it is an opinion. LOL. Typical MO of those who don't know what they're talking about.

If you had said "well I've won more or lost less at 888 than 3dice" or "my results have been better at Xx casino than 3dice" or even "I like Xx casino better than 3dice".....well that's completely different. However, what you did was make sweeping statements about 3dice as a whole and how they operate, for which you should provide evidence (your own rtp over 5k spins isn't evidence) or be prepared to be called out for not knowing what you're talking about......which I did.

Am I an affiliate for 3dice? Well that's for me to know and you to find out.....

Sheeesh...."sweeping statements" ?? I think you're reading posts through you're affiliated 3dice glasses/contacts/beer googles. As to "make sweeping statements about 3dice as a whole and how they operate", my abs are laughing at your ab.

I had an opinion and the 3dice rep responded. That's awesome and what this whole forum is about. Open discussion. Your defense of 3dice when someone expresses an experience (which may be in the negative)...bordering on sickening.

I simply stated my experience at both casinos, which i believe is what this forum is for (or so i thought). I'm presuming that you are definitely a 3dice affiliate, so will take your comments on 3dice with a grain of salt...

Would be nice to see if CM could introduce a function showing those members that have affiliations with casinos - transperancy would be great and memebers could come here without being swayed by others who have strong affiliations and then reply to posts when their casino receives a negative experience post.

BTW, what "fast one" were you talking about ?? still can't figure that one out.

 

[gid88]

He obviously did something dishonest (let's face it he is a known chargebacker) or he would just tell US what happened.

I have to say that after what I went through with TIV I won't be shedding any tears, but IMO two wrongs don't make a right either.

A known chargebacker doing something dishonest ? hmmmmm, that's wrong, had you read the TIV post completely. As to my subsequent financial gain from TIV, that's for me to know and you to find out

Trying to ruin my name on these posts with false accusations ? Sad.

But i expect nothing less from your comments.

Here's a comment so that your heart rate can go back to 150 as opposed to 180.

I just love 3dice. Their casino is awesome. I recommend all members sign up asap, fo through Nifty, he needs the cash.

Nifty - do I get a thank you...haha.