50 free spins at aspinalls = 0, NOTHING, NADA

Miss_Token

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Today, for october 12, i receive 50 free spins at aspinalls casino.
I play 50 free spins and i WON 0
No 5 bucks, no 1 bucks, no 0,50 cents, CERO

I talk with a chat representativa and she says:

Abigail: Welcome! It is great to have you with us. I am here to help you with anything you might need assistance with! :)
Me: hi abigail
Me: i receive 50 free spins at avalon today
Me: and i won 0
Abigail: Hi XXX
Me: in 50 free spins :(
Me: its normal?
Me: 0!! as you can see in my account
Abigail: XXX, the free spins that are credited to your account offer you the same chances of winning as when you would deposit.
Me: ok...so its normal lol
Abigail: It is a rare occurrence, however it does happen
Me: well, nothing to do. Can you send me this conversation to my account please...??
Abigail: you are able to copy the chat, as I will will be placing a notification on your account with this chat
Me: ok. I want to close my account please
Me: and never receive promos again to my email ;)
Abigail: One moment please.

Of course, i close my account. Im lucky to not was playing my own money.
What do you think?




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Bit of a P.O. I know but it happens, I imagine there is some sort of wagering requirement for any amount won on the free spins so it is unlikely they cheated you. Random is as random does. But I'm sure someone who knows will tell you if they are rogue or not.
 
Bit of a P.O. I know but it happens, I imagine there is some sort of wagering requirement for any amount won on the free spins so it is unlikely they cheated you. Random is as random does. But I'm sure someone who knows will tell you if they are rogue or not.

I know that there is a chance to this to happen, for me is just bad luck, im not worried about it is random or not, it was no my money. I just think is funny and i want to show you guys :)
 
What do I think?

I think that almost every one of your posts are complaining about not winning, and many of them with free money.

The casino gave you free spins - free - and you didnt win anything. It sucks, but you are not out of pocket as a result so I dont see what the all the bitching and moaning is about. Believe me, you are by no means the first to win nothing on free spins, and particularly on Avalon.

If this is a reason for closing a casino account then I reckon you have until about Christmas time before you run out of casinos to play at.

It is clear from your previous postings that losing makes you angry/upset, so maybe it is time to give gambling a rest? IMO when it gets to the stage where it is no longer enjoyable it becomes pointless.
 
What do I think?

I think that almost every one of your posts are complaining about not winning, and many of them with free money.

The casino gave you free spins - free - and you didnt win anything. It sucks, but you are not out of pocket as a result so I dont see what the all the bitching and moaning is about. Believe me, you are by no means the first to win nothing on free spins, and particularly on Avalon.

If this is a reason for closing a casino account then I reckon you have until about Christmas time before you run out of casinos to play at.

It is clear from your previous postings that losing makes you angry/upset, so maybe it is time to give gambling a rest? IMO when it gets to the stage where it is no longer enjoyable it becomes pointless.


OMG nifty, im here not to to complain, im just show you people something and ask for opinion. I dont believe you took this so seriusly...its just a post.
Im not angry, this was not my money, and i dont understeand why you are so angry, talkig about my last post...

I was laughing when this happen and i come here to show you, thats all.

I suppose you are not in a good mood today, for me this was another sesion in a online casino, a bad one, but thats all. What´s really bad its you been so unpleasant with me, telling me that i need to stop gambling.

For your records i have lost a lot more that 50 free spins at 20ctv, thats not the problem. Sometime i have won a lot too. I KNOW WHAT GAMBLING IS, i dont need you to tell me what i need to post or not.
BYE!
 
OMG nifty, im here not to to complain, im just show you people something and ask for opinion. I dont believe you took this so seriusly...its just a post.
Im not angry, this was not my money, and i dont understeand why you are so angry, talkig about my last post...

I was laughing when this happen and i come here to show you, thats all.

I suppose you are not in a good mood today, for me this was another sesion in a online casino, a bad one, but thats all. What´s really bad its you been so unpleasant with me, telling me that i need to stop gambling.

For your records i have lost a lot more that 50 free spins at 20ctv, thats not the problem. Sometime i have won a lot too. I KNOW WHAT GAMBLING IS, i dont need you to tell me what i need to post or not.
BYE!

It is obvious that you were complaining. If you weren't, why go post your live chat and close your account??? It makes no sense to close one's casino account if one doesn't have a complaint/issue. I mean, if it was just funny and you were just mucking around why publicly name the casino etc?

I am not being unpleasant. You asked what I thought and I told you, based on your post and your previous posts. I didnt personally attack you or put you down, I stated that most of your posts are complaints about losing - I didnt make it up, go read your previous posts.

The reason I made the remark about giving gambling a rest is that it concerns me when I see a member get upset about these things (i.e.losing from free spins etc ), as it usually indicates that member might not be enjoying their gaming and that seems to end badly more often than not. I certainly didnt mean to offend you or suggest you have a problem, it was just friendly advice from one member to another.
 
It is obvious that you were complaining. If you weren't, why go post your live chat and close your account??? It makes no sense to close one's casino account if one doesn't have a complaint/issue. I mean, if it was just funny and you were just mucking around why publicly name the casino etc?

I am not being unpleasant. You asked what I thought and I told you, based on your post and your previous posts. I didnt personally attack you or put you down, I stated that most of your posts are complaints about losing - I didnt make it up, go read your previous posts.

The reason I made the remark about giving gambling a rest is that it concerns me when I see a member get upset about these things (i.e.losing from free spins etc ), as it usually indicates that member might not be enjoying their gaming and that seems to end badly more often than not. I certainly didnt mean to offend you or suggest you have a problem, it was just friendly advice from one member to another.

Ok, i show the name of the casino. Maybe thats wrong. BUT IF YOUR READ carefully you can see that i always be nice with support, and i have never say nothing bad about the casino.

Of course i complain in a lots of post, the things at online casino are not good (and there are many members who complain about their poor performance) i dont know why you came here and say that things to me... :what::what:

If any time i need to make a REALLY COMPLAIN i will make a PAB. I close my account because i didnt care about that casino, i never play there, they give me free spins, i didnt won anything, i ask for close my account... i was very respectful with support.
But, its your opinion and really, i dont want to fight with you, this was a funny thing for me...50 free spins and 0 won its funny or not? :eek2:
 
To look on the plus side as the free spins would be 1 coin at 20 lines maybe if you had then played at your normal rate you might have won something as the odds of going much more without a win must be slim.

It is annoying to get a low amount with free spins and down right maddening to get nothing but it would also be annoying to get a feature or a big win on spin 50 at £$0.20 a go when my next spin might be at £$2.00.

I do think personally Avalon has gone Thunderstruck/Ladies Night way maybe they realised that the free spin feature was costing them too much.
 
Bad luck, but Avalon sucks most of the time.

Right after I read this, I loaded up a casino that gave me 15 spins on Dolphin Coast, not sure I've ever had that good of a run when spins were given to me. It can definitely go either way, most of the time I've only gotten a few bucks.
 
Im lucky to not was playing my own money.

What do you think?

Hi - Miss Token :)

It is frustrating to get ZERO on Avalon from 50 Spins.... To be honest, i have never seen that from many years of playing online. To clarify, you didnt even get ONE 3 of a kind or even a 2 of a kind?

What do I think?

I think that almost every one of your posts are complaining about not winning, and many of them with free money.

The casino gave you free spins - free - and you didnt win anything. It sucks, but you are not out of pocket as a result so I dont see what the all the bitching and moaning is about. Believe me, you are by no means the first to win nothing on free spins, and particularly on Avalon.

If this is a reason for closing a casino account then I reckon you have until about Christmas time before you run out of casinos to play at.

It is clear from your previous postings that losing makes you angry/upset, so maybe it is time to give gambling a rest? IMO when it gets to the stage where it is no longer enjoyable it becomes pointless.

I think the OP was looking for a positive response and not an attack. Whilst you may not view it as such, your post comes across as arrogant and rude.

Nate
 
50 dead spins in a row:eek: is extreme, that its exactly your 50 free spins is even more extreme.
I play the 32RED daily, which is also 50 spins, and I've never seen anyone hit ZERO with all coins used.
And its a habit of me to check the lowest scores too after the tourney ended.
Lowest I've ever seen was 1440 coins, lowest I've ever got was 1860.

Knowing Avalon, these low scores are usually built up by 2oak crowns/treasure chests and 3oak/4oak low paying symbols.
Hardly any winning spins, but you'll always get between 10-20 PAYING spins.

I'd love to know the odds of not hitting one single paying spin fifty times in a row on a game that pays for several 2oak, has wilds, pays for 2 scatters and has 20 winlines.
A million to one?
I think thats on the high side...it might be alot less.

So I think it was definately worth a post.
I hope your luck turns for the better, positive thing, it cannot possibly get worse!;)
 
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I was thinking the exact same thing about the 32Red tourney being 50 spins.

I've never had a score close to 0, and I've played that tournament many hundreds of times... and also often check the lowest scores. Based on what I've seen, if the OP truly didn't win a penny, I'm guessing it would be something be that would happen around 1 in 100,000 or even 1-in 1,000,000+ times.
 
Hi - Miss Token :)

It is frustrating to get ZERO on Avalon from 50 Spins.... To be honest, i have never seen that from many years of playing online. To clarify, you didnt even get ONE 3 of a kind or even a 2 of a kind?



I think the OP was looking for a positive response and not an attack. Whilst you may not view it as such, your post comes across as arrogant and rude.

Nate

Actually, the op asked what I think, and I told them. I must have missed the part about positive replies only required.

Of course the result they got from the spins was awful, but at the end of the day they were free so nobody has lost anything. I don't think there was any point posting the live chat to show they closed their account, apart from showing they were behaving unreasonably. What did the op think the rep was going to do.... give them another 50 spins? Sorry, but this is one of the reasons a lot of live chat reps are so rude and dismissive.....dealing with players whining all the time.

Sorry if it comes across rude, but if you are going to whinge all the time then you have to expect that not everyone is going to agree with you. If one isn't prepared for contrary points of view, one shouldnt post in a public forum.
 
I'd love to know the odds of not hitting one single paying spin fifty times in a row on a game that pays for several 2oak, has wilds, pays for 2 scatters and has 20 winlines.
A million to one?
I think thats on the high side...it might be alot less.
My guess would be MUCH higher - nearing impossible!
I've been playing slots near-enough daily for 5 years and find it hard to imagine what the odds of 50 win-less spins are on ANY game... :eek:

I think I've got the reel layouts for Avalon somewhere - anyone want to volunteer to work it out?

KK
 
Actually, the op asked what I think, and I told them. I must have missed the part about positive replies only required.

Of course the result they got from the spins was awful, but at the end of the day they were free so nobody has lost anything. I don't think there was any point posting the live chat to show they closed their account, apart from showing they were behaving unreasonably. What did the op think the rep was going to do.... give them another 50 spins? Sorry, but this is one of the reasons a lot of live chat reps are so rude and dismissive.....dealing with players whining all the time.

Sorry if it comes across rude, but if you are going to whinge all the time then you have to expect that not everyone is going to agree with you. If one isn't prepared for contrary points of view, one shouldnt post in a public forum.

Point made... Point taken...

Costs us nothing to be humble when we do things. The world already lacks humility...

{/DERAIL}

KK - I also cannot picture 50 blank spins... I've played Avalon LOTS and fail to visualise this specific scenario...
 
50 dead spins in a row:eek: is extreme, that its exactly your 50 free spins is even more extreme.
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I'd love to know the odds of not hitting one single paying spin fifty times in a row on a game that pays for several 2oak, has wilds, pays for 2 scatters and has 20 winlines.
A million to one?
I think thats on the high side...it might be alot less.

So I think it was definately worth a post.
I hope your luck turns for the better, positive thing, it cannot possibly get worse!;)

This is true - to find the silver lining here, if you believe MG gives player a fair game, then it shows that players can also win really big - that is, 50 paying spins out of 50 spins.
 
Hi everyone. I dont want nothing more that comment this especific situation.

When it happens, i went to support not to ask for a free chip, i came there just to ask "'IS THAT NORMAL"? . When the answer was yes, i close my account there. Why? because im a player for about 8 years, 2 in online casinos and have never seem 50 deads spins in a row. If that is normal in that casino, so i dont want to spend any money there, just simple as that.
I reapeat: I didnt won nothing, not even 1 scaters. Of course this need to be show in a post....!!!


I think im very lucky: this never happen, so maybe the luck turns back and give a big jackpot (1 in 1000000000000 odds) :cool:

Thanks everyone for your post.
 
I know nothing about that game (can't play there), but it looks like it's 20 lines. Fifty spins, no wins = sucks. Just shows you what can happen.:(

I've probably seen some winning screenshots but don't recall.
 
Today, for october 12, i receive 50 free spins at aspinalls casino.
I play 50 free spins and i WON 0
No 5 bucks, no 1 bucks, no 0,50 cents, CERO


Of course, i close my account. Im lucky to not was playing my own money.
What do you think?
It is a strange event. Avalon never paid out for me well either, along with the other top Microgaming slots, so I am not surprised the payout was bad, but I wouldn't have expected it to be that bad. I think it is the best that you closed that account, because you didn't loose much by choosing not playing there. There are casinos with much better payout that offer more fun while playing.

Anyway this is a very good example to understand how Microgaming can afford to offer that much free spins. A few months ago I received 100 free spins in one of their casinos, I think alltogether I won 10-20$, I don't remember exactly how much, but it was a video slot with all lines active. It is kind of ridiculous. And it had happened before in several other cases as well. By now I understood that no matter how much free spins you get, very likely you won't win much, becuse the slot will be very tight when playing. I don't say it's not worth trying, because it is free money, but in spite of the big numbers you shouldn't expect much.
 
Thank you all for your comments.
I closed my account at the casino because I do not think that this result can be random. But for me it was just a minor incident, though he had never seen such a bad result.
I know that this casino is accredited and I know that what happened to me is part of the possibilities, so I will pass. It is a pleasure to receive your views.

Just for the records: i do have good things to say about 3dice or kerching casino... so please dont think that i am a grumpy girl, lol.


I would like to hear from a representative of microgaming ...
 
My guess would be MUCH higher - nearing impossible!
I've been playing slots near-enough daily for 5 years and find it hard to imagine what the odds of 50 win-less spins are on ANY game... :eek:

I think I've got the reel layouts for Avalon somewhere - anyone want to volunteer to work it out?

KK

With 'alot less' I meant that it might be a billion to one.
I'm keeping stats now from the 32RED tourneys, ever since Nedplay and Golden lounge joined I have 3 entries every day.
So far (6 tourneys) the avarage is 23 paying spins against 27 dead spins.
So thats almost 50/50.
The lowest I got was 19 paying spins, the highest 29.

Does anyone know what the odds are of hitting black (or red) 50 times in a row on roulette?
We could get a rough idea of the odds.

KK, I'd love to calculate the odds according to the reelstrip layouts, but I have no idea how to do that.
 
The lowest I got was 19 paying spins, the highest 29.

Does anyone know what the odds are of hitting black (or red) 50 times in a row on roulette?
We could get a rough idea of the odds.

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If there was no Green 0, an just red and black, it would be one in

Scientific Notation
1.125899907 x 10 to the 15th

Regular number:
1125899907000000

one quadrillion ,one hundred twenty five trillion ,eight hundred ninety nine billion ,nine hundred seven million.

It will never happen
 
With 'alot less' I meant that it might be a billion to one.
I'm keeping stats now from the 32RED tourneys, ever since Nedplay and Golden lounge joined I have 3 entries every day.
So far (6 tourneys) the avarage is 23 paying spins against 27 dead spins.
So thats almost 50/50.
The lowest I got was 19 paying spins, the highest 29.

Does anyone know what the odds are of hitting black (or red) 50 times in a row on roulette?
We could get a rough idea of the odds.

KK, I'd love to calculate the odds according to the reelstrip layouts, but I have no idea how to do that.

So, if 50 spins in a row with no winnigs if imposible.... why this happen to me?? do you thing this is like some kind of cheat?
 

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