2, 5, 8, 14, 20, 26, 29 and 32 all came up before 11.
19 different numbers in a row.
No repeats.
Try that.
There is a sequence of 19 different numbers once every 620 spins on average.
Enzo, can you please specify how you've got that number?
Thanks!
Enzo,
How does your roulette work - Is it like a Slot Machine that conforms to a RTP or is it as Random as a live Table?
Nate
Randomness control is the feature which BetVoyager has.
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Hi Skiny,
I thought I'd run some math that might help you put things in perspective.
The odds for that are 80.3%
There is a sequence of 19 different numbers once every 620 spins on average.
Either your expectations or our roulette are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off.
Kind regards,
Enzo.
That's not 'randomness control' in the way it's being discussed here, that's just explaining how their RNG works and that it can be trusted to be random, and specifically that the number is determined before the bet is made, i.e. the table has no way of choosing a losing spin based on the numbers a player has chosen to bet on.
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EDIT - Just to clarify, I think some people are thinking of 'randomness control' as meaning the number choice is controlled or 'picked' in some way based on what the player is doing (which is where skiny is coming from), BetVoyager are explaining there that their randomness is entirely random.
If I thought this game was missing my number on purpose would I play it every single "all games" tournament, knowing that it's probably my best bet to get a big score? I already said in this thread I play this game every single day. This game has a lot more bad runs than it has good runs but I think the odds pretty much dictate that unless you cover almost the entire board. Unless someone says "The casino is cheating" I don't automatically assume they're saying the casino is cheating. I don't make assumptions based on statements people never made (Which is where Chopley is coming from.)
My original question was do people play this game for real? Do they play it for real the way I showed with this box play? Do they do this and have to sit through long bad runs?
I don't play roulette for real money because this way I play which does get me some real good scores sometimes in tournaments would be way too costly for me to sit and wait for them.
And just because people don't like when I point at something that is random but is obviously out of the ordinary, which I always find interesting doesn't mean I'm going to stop doing it.
What are my expectations?
I got 19 different numbers in a row. Anyone who plays roulette online or on a real table isn't going to see that many numbers in a row without at least one repeat very often. I program my own games that use random numbers. I've seen my own games do some pretty weird stuff sometimes but I know I didn't program them to cheat. I've said this before.... To you.
Every time you point out something out of the ordinary when it's in your favour everyone pats you on the back, if it's not in your favour they assume you're calling the casino a cheat. If I say I just rolled 45 dice so far and I've only seen one 5 at least one person, often more will come back with a statement like - it can happen, it doesn't mean the casino is cheating. Well, obviously it can happen. It just did. And pointing out the fact that it did doesn't mean anyone is cheating. If it meant that I'd be calling myself a cheater every time I point out one of my own games did something weird.
If I thought this game was missing my number on purpose would I play it every single "all games" tournament, knowing that it's probably my best bet to get a big score? I already said in this thread I play this game every single day. This game has a lot more bad runs than it has good runs but I think the odds pretty much dictate that unless you cover almost the entire board. Unless someone says "The casino is cheating" I don't automatically assume they're saying the casino is cheating. I don't make assumptions based on statements people never made (Which is where Chopley is coming from.)
My original question was do people play this game for real? Do they play it for real the way I showed with this box play? Do they do this and have to sit through long bad runs?
I don't play roulette for real money because this way I play which does get me some real good scores sometimes in tournaments would be way too costly for me to sit and wait for them.
And just because people don't like when I point at something that is random but is obviously out of the ordinary, which I always find interesting doesn't mean I'm going to stop doing it.
If you actual intent is to just point out "interesting" stuff in games, then why not just have a thread called "weird stuff that happens in games" or something?
I see where you're coming from skiny.
What I don't understand is why you present things that you find "interesting" in such a way that calls into question the fairness/randomness of the game (in this case 3Dice roulette), but doesn't explicitly state that you are actually doing so. I know what you're saying when you do this.....and you know I do because I do it at times myself when I don't want to outright call someone a whatever etc.
If you actual intent is to just point out "interesting" stuff in games, then why not just have a thread called "weird stuff that happens in games" or something? Instead of making a thread about a specific game at a specific casino, and quite obviously suggesting (I'n not the only one seeing this) that something is not right.
Enzo replied with the maths, which cannot lie. If you can dispute that with your own math to show that he is wrong and that his roulette is somehow operating "like a high variance slot", then have at it. Otherwise, why are you being so defensive regarding what Enzo stated?
I also note that you're asking real players if they have the same bad runs etc.....well, obviously they do. Otherwise, you would be suggesting that tourney/fun play is different to real play. Otherwise, I don't see the point of the question. If you don't think real play and fun play are the same, why not just say so? Or ask Enzo straight up? Or, even better, play for real with micro stakes and form your own opinion.
FTR, nobody is asking you to stop posting whatever you want. Only the mods can do that. By the same token, you must expect that others will dispute, challenge, support, agree or disagree etc etc with anything you post. If you just want to say whatever you like and delete the responses or opinions you don't like, then go and start a blog.
This would be a far better idea, and in fact could actually make for a fun and interesting read, just a basic 'Something weird happened to me today' thread and we can all chip in.
I reckon that over time it would develop into an interesting repository as to the crazy things genuinely random numbers can do sometimes.
What are my expectations?
I got 19 different numbers in a row. Anyone who plays roulette online or on a real table isn't going to see that many numbers in a row without at least one repeat very often.
I program my own games that use random numbers. I've seen my own games do some pretty weird stuff sometimes but I know I didn't program them to cheat. I've said this before.... To you.
Every time you point out something out of the ordinary when it's in your favour everyone pats you on the back, if it's not in your favour they assume you're calling the casino a cheat. If I say I just rolled 45 dice so far and I've only seen one 5 at least one person, often more will come back with a statement like - it can happen, it doesn't mean the casino is cheating. Well, obviously it can happen. It just did. And pointing out the fact that it did doesn't mean anyone is cheating. If it meant that I'd be calling myself a cheater every time I point out one of my own games did something weird.
If I thought this game was missing my number on purpose would I play it every single "all games" tournament, knowing that it's probably my best bet to get a big score? I already said in this thread I play this game every single day. This game has a lot more bad runs than it has good runs but I think the odds pretty much dictate that unless you cover almost the entire board. Unless someone says "The casino is cheating" I don't automatically assume they're saying the casino is cheating. I don't make assumptions based on statements people never made (Which is where Chopley is coming from.)
My original question was do people play this game for real? Do they play it for real the way I showed with this box play? Do they do this and have to sit through long bad runs?
I don't play roulette for real money because this way I play which does get me some real good scores sometimes in tournaments would be way too costly for me to sit and wait for them.
And just because people don't like when I point at something that is random but is obviously out of the ordinary, which I always find interesting doesn't mean I'm going to stop doing it.
mmm... okay .. let me try to keep this simple.
yes they will. The math is above - anyone will see that often even.
I play this game every day. I don't see it often. I see repeating numbers almost every single time I play. It's rare I see even one board of 15 numbers without at least one repeat. most of the time there are several.
ok - so you're trying to get a message across. you post what you think says 'A'.
_everyone_ who reads it however reads 'B'.
Clearly you need to rethink your communication strategies cause - quod erat demonstrandum - everyone reads your posts as under the belt punches and insinuations of unfairness at the address of 3Dice.
I'm happy to give you a couple of pointers tho -
- try to provide more context when you post. the more context around a statement - the less room there is for different interpretations.
- Don't be shy to actually say what you mean - you can still do the witty and funny version - just start out with the literal one - again to avoid misinterpretation.
- Dare to ask yourself - lets not call it what you did wrong - but rather what you could've done different to make sure people understand what you mean. It sometimes looks like you just get angry and defensive without ever asking that question.
and Skiny, please take this post serious. I'm not trying to be sarcastic - I'm deadly serious here - it can't be fun for you to have what you say be interpreted differently from what you mean all the time. This is exactly what needs to change for your chat-ban at 3Dice to be lifted to. I'm totally prepared to believe that you have no bad intentions - but please please believe me when I tell you that that is NOT what it sounds like when people read what you write. not at all.
And please don't walk in the trap you've been in before. This is not something personal - you are an intelligent person - you can figure this out. Nifty, Chopley, my staff and me - we have nothing against you - its not you - its just the way you say the things you say. And it wouldn't even need a lot of changes to go from the current interpretation to one where everyone thinks you're funny and witty.
Good luck.
Enzo
Well I honestly don't know what your point is skiny, are you trying to say that 3Dice Roulette plays 'suspiciously' out of the ordinary in tournament play and you want to know if it does the same in real play, or are you saying that it just does 'weird but acceptable' things within the bounds of expected variation in a random game?
I see where you're coming from skiny.
What I don't understand is why you present things that you find "interesting" in such a way that calls into question the fairness/randomness of the game (in this case 3Dice roulette), but doesn't explicitly state that you are actually doing so. I know what you're saying when you do this.....and you know I do because I do it at times myself when I don't want to outright call someone a whatever etc.
ok - so you're trying to get a message across. you post what you think says 'A'.
_everyone_ who reads it however reads 'B'.
Enzo
Skiny, these three comments show that the point you were trying to make was not clear. None of these individuals have a problem with you but all were trying to understand what the real message/meaning/action you want taking etc etc you are trying to convey is. I don't know for sure either. Sorry. Not trying to be awkward just saying.
Skiny, these three comments show that the point you were trying to make was not clear. None of these individuals have a problem with you but all were trying to understand what the real message/meaning/action you want taking etc etc you are trying to convey is. I don't know for sure either. Sorry. Not trying to be awkward just saying.
TY m'love. I will try that today, usually I bet on 17 and around it.
How about I just circle the chair counter-clockwise, spin around a few times and just click?
Lol, i dont suggest 2 because its lucky, but because it pays the most in the game
I still play this game once a day.
I finally hit more than the corner of my 25% of the board after a week or so.
Then I didn't hit any of the 25% of the board for the next 25 spins. Zero comes pretty quick sometimes no matter what your balance is.