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3Dice Roulette.

Discussion in 'The Attic' started by skiny, Nov 17, 2012.

    Nov 17, 2012
  1. skiny

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    3Dice Roulette.: roulette.jpg,Nov 17, 2012

    This is how I often play these roulette tournaments. If my balance is high enough I'll max out my bet by playing the sides of the center number as well as the corners. It's always different variations of this style of bet.

    I don't play roulette anywhere but at 3Dice and only in tournament mode.

    I started out with the same style of bet on number 11. A center hit on 11 would pay pretty good.

    2, 5, 8, 14, 20, 26, 29 and 32 all came up before 11.

    After 11 finally did come up I played the same style of bet on 2. This is almost 25% of the board. After about 15 spins of the wheel that paid nothing I gave up on 2 and moved to 14. This is even closer to 25% of the board. 10 spins of the wheel later again managed to miss all 9 numbers I had covered.

    Once in a while I have a really good run in roulette. Most of the time it plays basically like this. When people play this game for real do they play almost 25% of the board and hit? Does it really hit that 25% that rarely? This is just tournament play so it doesn't really matter but if I was playing for real and the ball was just basically landing everywhere I don't put my chips I wouldn't be very happy after a while. lol

    Sometimes I think it's just a really high variance slot game.
     
  2. Nov 17, 2012
  3. Brooklyn

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    I still don't know how people get crazy high scores.

    shaky has $50k. I am lucky to get $675.

    EDIT:

    I think it has a lot to do with me not knowing how to play. ;)
     
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  4. Nov 17, 2012
  5. Nifty29

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    Come on skiny.

    You've been around long enough.

    You can't make even remotely accurate assessments of the randomness of a game based on ~30-40 spins. In fact, it is silly.

    The odds of one number hitting are 37-1. If you take 10 numbers, chances are ONE of them will hit every 3.7 spins.

    Even based on your tiny sample, there is nothing at all unusual going on.
     
  6. Nov 18, 2012
  7. skiny

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    I got 50k in one hour once.... about $100 less than first place. lol

    30 or 40 spins would be one game. I play this game almost every day, every week, every month.

    I play 9 numbers following your logic that should be almost 1 in 4 spins. Good luck with that. lol

    Maybe it's better that I crap out 95% of the time in tournament mode. Maybe that's how I suddenly get some ridiculously high score of 40 or 50k in an hour.

    I was just wondering how people played this game for real. Do they do the box play like I do? Do they actually get frequent hits playing like that? Like every 4th, 5th or even 7th spin on average? Obviously you're not going to hit one of your numbers every 4th spin but I'm talking about on average over the long haul. The only time anyone ever talks about roulette is when they bring up some silly betting system that apparently is able to make the game no longer random because it hits with a regular frequency.

    By the way, I don't care who you are. If you surround any number and it hits every single center line number except yours, you're still going to shake your head. :p
     
  8. Nov 18, 2012
  9. rockycatt

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    if i play that game /when i play that game its only going to be a few spins and if i'm not up i wont chase that one
     
  10. Nov 18, 2012
  11. skiny

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    For real money or tournament/fun mode?
     
  12. Nov 18, 2012
  13. hokiepoker

    hokiepoker Original Online Champ PABnononaccred

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    Oh yes he can



    Been there done that... won many many roulette tournies... I box and spin..... sometimes the right number just keeps coming up.... I don't know why.. and I won't speculate on how algorythims work....LOL!!!!
     
  14. Nov 18, 2012
  15. rockycatt

    rockycatt meistercatt CAG MM

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    that statement was regarding real $$, on turny's i usually load up around the two and let it rip but ive never won a roulette turny
     
  16. Nov 18, 2012
  17. Nifty29

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    Thing is, you need to get a run of your numbers to be a winner of anything decent.

    So, since players do win some handsome sums, it means that these runs must happen.

    Conversely, the opposite must also happen.

    The odds on each spin are 9-1 the way you play of hitting a number. Assuming you bet $10 on each, you need to get better than 1 in 9 to have a chance at making a profit.

    I would wager that if you used an online RNG....just a simple number picker....and programmed it for 37 numbers and did 1000 draws using your usual numbers as theoretical bets, you would see good runs and bad runs. Make it 10,000 and you would see even more. The larger the sample, the more the results gravitate towards the true odds.

    When you can show via evidence that things happen in online roulette that don't/cannot happen on a real table, then I'm all ears.

    Why don't you try out 32 reds live roulette for a test run?

    Better still, ask 3dice for your roulette history.

    It's better than calling "rigged", which is what you are suggesting, based on "the numbers hit all around the numbers I choose".
     
  18. Nov 18, 2012
  19. skiny

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    Well, not really. A corner hit pays almost 2x total bet if you bet even on all 5 numbers. A side pays almost 4x and the center pays all 4 corners plus a single number. So how often you have to hit depends on which of the 9 numbers come up. Even if you hit a side every time you still need better than 1 in 4. If betting on 25% of the board only required that you need to hit 1 in 4 the casino would have no edge.

    I'm more than happy to have you in every thread I'm involved in but nobody is actually asking you to listen.

    I wouldn't play roulette for real money. lol

    Rigged would mean it's also rigged to give me 50k in an hour once in a while.
     
  20. Nov 18, 2012
  21. dionysus

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    I've gotten up over 100k from 5k in roulette alone, though I don't think the game was weighted toward me in any way
     
  22. Nov 18, 2012
  23. skiny

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    100k must be some sort of record. I've seen over 60k and had well over 50k myself.

    I think I got over 50k in Sic Bo once. That was nuts.
     
  24. Nov 18, 2012
  25. dionysus

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    I've seen 100k a couple times thinking how the hell does that happen? I just had a good run of 2s and surrounding numbers
     
  26. Nov 18, 2012
  27. skiny

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    A really good run, a max win is under 8k. lol
     
  28. Nov 18, 2012
  29. dionysus

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    Well just 2 wins early in brings my balance up around 15k plus leaving me some room to hit a few more combined with smaller wins. I've only done it once and maybe once around 80 k
     
  30. Nov 18, 2012
  31. Nifty29

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    "I'm more than happy to have you in every thread I'm involved in but nobody is actually asking you to listen."

    Very mature of you skiny.....saying "don't listen then" when a valid point is raised.

    Here's an even better one:

    "If you don't want others to challenge your erroneous statements, don't post them in a public forum"
     
  32. Nov 18, 2012
  33. SlotMonster

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    Casinos should really start implementing randomness control. In this case all complaints about RNG and games being "tough" and "greedy" will quickly die IMO.
     
  34. Nov 18, 2012
  35. Nifty29

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    If anyone is interested, here is a link to an RNG that can generate roulette results for you.

    I've done a few sessions of 100 spins and it is very interesting to see just how true randomness can produce weird results.

    Try it for yourself! Get a roulette table on screen and place pseudo bets and see how you would end up after 100, 500, 1000 etc spins.

    You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
  36. Nov 18, 2012
  37. skiny

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    lol That made me grin.

    What was your valid point? I posted where I bet and where the ball landed. Basically it sucked. It does this quite often and then it does the opposite and you win a ton. I asked if this is how this game plays out for people who play it for real money.

    You were the only person who came back and basically said, stop calling the casino a cheater. I'm not going to listen unless you have evidence. My response was - so don't listen.

    And it's true. I enjoy your input most of the time. Just not the times where you play casino integrity advocate when it's really not necessary.

    By the way, you do know what erroneous means, right? I don't post false statements. Accusing me of that is a little insulting.
     
  38. Nov 18, 2012
  39. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

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    i play a little roulette at 3 dice find it pretty fair tbh you have good & bad swings , the only thing i would like them to add on it is the neighbours bets , but enzo seems not too willing to do so , so maybe enough people dont play it , i tend to stick with same numbers as always but thats the way i play it, ive hit 4 numbers on the trot cant seem to hit higher than that but working on it.
     

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