32Red Slotsmeister Exclusive Tourney

[Nifty29]

EVERY wagering tournament is based on risking more than the prizes on offer, it has always been like this. If anything, the Slotsmeister is one of the best when compared to the others that also offer a £500 top prize, but score on total wager, rather than number of games played.

I just had to prove to the doubters that the existence of "stealth mode" is not simply the imaginings of my over inflated cranium, but an actual, if obscure, feature of how the Slotsmeister has always operated. It's actually easier due to the addition of a new feature in the scoring, that of only showing scores once the average bet has reached 0.10

Yes I get that, but I think you over-estimate how much the "doubters" really care either way whether you prove it or not. I certainly don't care at all....but hey, if it's vital to you personally, then have at it.

 

[wolfarch]

I was play tomb raider tournament and I leader now how much money give if I will win ?

can anyone say me ?

what is 3k 3day ?

 

[PCJACKPOT2008]

I finally get what "vinylweatherman" means with "stealth mode".

Again, it's not deliberate by me. I didn't even know about the leaderboard til just a few days ago. I'm not trying to hide my score in any way.

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

Quick update.

I'm pleased to say the bug where PC wasn't showing has now been fixed, we had to abbreviate his name though, I hope you don't mind PC.



Mimi26 you are also registered successfully and appearing on the leaderboard.

Cheers
Mark

 

[vinylweatherman]

Yes I get that, but I think you over-estimate how much the "doubters" really care either way whether you prove it or not. I certainly don't care at all....but hey, if it's vital to you personally, then have at it.

Yes, it is absolutely vital

I have struggled to prove my AWP system, and now MGS have chipped all the games yet again and I have had to recalibrate my system to the new patterns. They are paying out less now using the old systems, so by way of diversion I have taken on the Slotsmeister this month. I may even be driven to taking on an unlimited continue MPV

 

[vinylweatherman]

Quick update.

I'm pleased to say the bug where PC wasn't showing has now been fixed, we had to abbreviate his name though, I hope you don't mind PC.

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Mimi26 you are also registered successfully and appearing on the leaderboard.

Cheers
Mark

Was having too long a name the cause of the bug?


I also have a suggestion.

Although scores no longer show until the average bet has reached 0.10 (Stealth mode class 2), this allows for the current tactical ploy I have decided to demonstrate this month.

Rather than not showing, perhaps a score that doesn't qualify could be shown, but with a notation of "not qualified" next to it instead of the relevant prize, but in the position it would occupy.

For example, instead of

PCJACKPOT 92082 250
johnsteed 28657 150*
chris161 26474 125
randomiam 24652 100
Nate 23219 100
mippsaublue 21136 75
RUSTYROO 15112 50

It would show

vinylweatherman 1276223 not qualified
PCJACKPOT 92082 250
johnsteed 28657 150*
chris161 26474 125
randomiam 24652 100
Nate 23219 100
mippsaublue 21136 75
RUSTYROO 15112 50

 

[Nifty29]

Yes, it is absolutely vital

I have struggled to prove my AWP system, and now MGS have chipped all the games yet again and I have had to recalibrate my system to the new patterns. They are paying out less now using the old systems, so by way of diversion I have taken on the Slotsmeister this month. I may even be driven to taking on an unlimited continue MPV

LMAO

There's nothing to "take on". You just have to have the highest number of spins. OMG. There IS NO AWP SYSTEM.

It's a while seen we've seen that old "MGS have chipped the games" chestnut, so I guess it was overdue. The reality is that you had a very big win ONCE, and you've been trying to emulate it ever since without success....sound familiar? It should. It's what happens to EVERYONE that has a huge win i.e. they expect it to happen again and blame "RTP tampering" after years of trying to hit it again without success.

You're a recognized expert on the old fruities in the UK. Congratulations once again. However, AWPs like MGS are NOT fruities. You CANNOT beat them with any formula/strategy/system, and you are now seeing the reality that the losses will catch up with you over time. There is nothing to "recalibrate"....except perhaps your view of reality when it comes to slots and AWPs in particular.

Good luck with taking on the unlimited MPV. Again...no system etc...just who has the deepest pockets..and you've already told us many many times that it's you.

Sorry Mark...I just don't want newbs or the easily-led to think that slots/AWPs are in ANY way beatable or able to be manipulated to pay out more than they should. It's a gambler's fallacy in the same league as "individual RTP controls" and other nonsense.


EDIT: LOL. Just noticed you couldn't resist bragging about how many spins you had done.

 

[vinylweatherman]

LMAO

There's nothing to "take on". You just have to have the highest number of spins. OMG. There IS NO AWP SYSTEM.

It's a while seen we've seen that old "MGS have chipped the games" chestnut, so I guess it was overdue.

The reality is that you had a very big win ONCE

, and you've been trying to emulate it ever since without success....sound familiar? It should. It's what happens to EVERYONE that has a huge win i.e. they expect it to happen again and blame "RTP tampering" after years of trying to hit it again without success.

You're a recognized expert on the old fruities in the UK. Congratulations once again. However, AWPs like MGS are NOT fruities. You CANNOT beat them with any formula/strategy/system, and you are now seeing the reality that the losses will catch up with you over time. There is nothing to "recalibrate"....except perhaps your view of reality when it comes to slots and AWPs in particular.

Good luck with taking on the unlimited MPV. Again...no system etc...just who has the deepest pockets..and you've already told us many many times that it's you.

Sorry Mark...I just don't want newbs or the easily-led to think that slots/AWPs are in ANY way beatable or able to be manipulated to pay out more than they should. It's a gambler's fallacy in the same league as "individual RTP controls" and other nonsense.


EDIT: LOL. Just noticed you couldn't resist bragging about how many spins you had done.

Twice!

2006 (Treasure Ireland 52K)
2012 (Game On, Chavin it up, Ski Bunny 66K)

next biggie is due in 2018

I have recently noticed that AWPs now feature as a 25% weighted game at a soon to be accredited casino, so at least one operator is getting somewhat uncomfortable about this game category. If they were simply slots, there would be no need to give them a different class weighting.

MGS have intended these games to emulate as closely as possible the UK pub slot, and to do so accurately would require regular "chipping" of the games. This does not change RTP though, just the patterns and "tells" that players use to assess how "hot" or "dead" a particular AWP is.

 

[mimi26]

where is the leaderboard Thanks , I am making it my mission to be top

 

[vinylweatherman]

where is the leaderboard Thanks , I am making it my mission to be top

This is unwise.

I have already been slapped twice by the gauntlet of challenge this month, so a third slap is going to be counter productive.

However, you could take this as a direct gauntlet slap from me, and I am sure the likes of Nifty will be 110% behind your challenge being a success

Would Mark like to add any more fuel?

This could get interesting

 

[Nifty29]

where is the leaderboard Thanks , I am making it my mission to be top

Forget it mimi.

VWM will win this month, even if he has to sell his house to do it...just to prove a point to people who don't really care either way.

 

[mimi26]

This is unwise.

I have already been slapped twice by the gauntlet of challenge this month, so a third slap is going to be counter productive.

However, you could take this as a direct gauntlet slap from me, and I am sure the likes of Nifty will be 110% behind your challenge being a success

Would Mark like to add any more fuel?

This could get interesting

very interesting anyway where is the leaderboard I want to see how much catching up I have

 

[mimi26]

Forget it mimi.

VWM will win this month, even if he has to sell his house to do it...just to prove a point to people who don't really care either way.

I have 2 houses though, and a bunch of stuff to take the pawn shop

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

very interesting anyway where is the leaderboard I want to see how much catching up I have

The leaderboard can be found here: Link Outdated / Removed

Good luck.

 

[vinylweatherman]

I have 2 houses though, and a bunch of stuff to take the pawn shop

I have only the one, but it's in the Thames valley, so worth a fair bit.

I also have loads of junk that I could sell, but I also have my Microgaming AWP system, so sales of the above will not be necessary

I just hope you know what you are taking on here

There are many other months where I don't get gauntlet slapped, and where a score of less than a million spins will suffice.

You may even force sjn out into the open, even bigzedbud, then you will REALLY feel the heat

 

[vinylweatherman]

No sales are necessary.

Earlier today, I got the "tells" from the AWP "Treasure Ireland", the ones for a potential "megastreak", and I am only £600 in the hole on it. I got the ships off "shifta", and then followed a sequence of 777s and pints of pirate ale. It no longer shows "ships, parrots" as the tell since a rechip some years ago. The very next feature offered 50 winspins right away, before dying. This is tell number two. The machine then died, tell number three.

It's now 19:50 on the 6th August, so this has been officially notified BEFORE I hit any kind of streak. My winner screenshot to be posted when I finally trigger it will be timestamed so as to demonstrate that I haven't already made the win and am now just pretending it's still to come and inventing a story about seeing the predictive pattens beforehand.

If I don't post any screenshot, I was wrong, but I am STILL going to win the Slotsmeister this month

 

[vinylweatherman]

I can run more then five on my PC.

Not sure I will be going for it this month, I need to get back to playing poker and FTOPS (Full Tilt Series of Poker).

Liar, Liar, pants on fire

I prefer to believe:-

PCJACKPOT2008


How many games is allowed to play at the same time? I think i've read five somewhere, is that correct?

If it's not I can make far more then the 250k points I got last month...

...and then there's the quickspin option.

Back to the grind!

 

[Nifty29]

No sales are necessary.

Earlier today, I got the "tells" from the AWP "Treasure Ireland", the ones for a potential "megastreak", and I am only £600 in the hole on it. I got the ships off "shifta", and then followed a sequence of 777s and pints of pirate ale. It no longer shows "ships, parrots" as the tell since a rechip some years ago. The very next feature offered 50 winspins right away, before dying. This is tell number two. The machine then died, tell number three.

It's now 19:50 on the 6th August, so this has been officially notified BEFORE I hit any kind of streak. My winner screenshot to be posted when I finally trigger it will be timestamed so as to demonstrate that I haven't already made the win and am now just pretending it's still to come and inventing a story about seeing the predictive pattens beforehand.

If I don't post any screenshot, I was wrong, but I am STILL going to win the Slotsmeister this month

Lets just say you're right and there IS a way to beat the AWPs (there isn't but anyway).

Do you REALLY think that you would be the ONLY one to have figured it out? There are APs that make a career out of finding loopholes and manipulation strategies....they would have been all over it like a cheap suit and MGS would have removed the games etc.

You explain away your subsequent losses by accusing MGS of altering the games, when in reality it is just the TRTP catching up with you. If it was anything else, you would be able to produce megastreaks at will.....and you can't.

The game will pay what it is going to pay. Nothing you do will alter that fact. You might claim to "see" a big pay coming, but you know you can't MAKE it happen. You're just like any other slot player....you try to pick up on whether a slot is "hot" and stick with it. It's actually quite possible, given your bet sizes and (so you keep telling us) huge bankroll, you may well have done better overall playing All Aces VP or some other high TRTP high variance slot.

Remember, your big hits were on big bets. I think the TI one was $10 or more IIRC, which makes it 6000xbet....a great win indeed, but I've seen bigger and I've had similar wins.....just on smaller stakes. It just looks like you're an "expert" etc because you bet big continually until you hit big I.e. no different to the bigwinpic guy in the playboy thread. Youve only achieved these twice in all these years, so whatever your system was, it has never worked.

I guarantee that if you gave someone else a huge or unlimited bankroll for several years, they would produce some similar wins,with absolutely no system at all.

 

[vinylweatherman]

Lets just say you're right and there IS a way to beat the AWPs (there isn't but anyway).

Do you REALLY think that you would be the ONLY one to have figured it out? There are APs that make a career out of finding loopholes and manipulation strategies....they would have been all over it like a cheap suit and MGS would have removed the games etc.

You explain away your subsequent losses by accusing MGS of altering the games, when in reality it is just the TRTP catching up with you. If it was anything else, you would be able to produce megastreaks at will.....and you can't.

The game will pay what it is going to pay. Nothing you do will alter that fact. You might claim to "see" a big pay coming, but you know you can't MAKE it happen. You're just like any other slot player....you try to pick up on whether a slot is "hot" and stick with it. It's actually quite possible, given your bet sizes and (so you keep telling us) huge bankroll, you may well have done better overall playing All Aces VP or some other high TRTP high variance slot.

Remember, your big hits were on big bets. I think the TI one was $10 or more IIRC, which makes it 6000xbet....a great win indeed, but I've seen bigger and I've had similar wins.....just on smaller stakes. It just looks like you're an "expert" etc because you bet big continually until you hit big I.e. no different to the bigwinpic guy in the playboy thread. Youve only achieved these twice in all these years, so whatever your system was, it has never worked.

I guarantee that if you gave someone else a huge or unlimited bankroll for several years, they would produce some similar wins,with absolutely no system at all.

However, I am predicting a big win before it has happened, and based on the past events or "tells", rather than the theory that if I pump enough through it I will get a big hit by chance.

Having observed the right tells, I CAN do it "on demand".

This is not about doing it from scratch, it's seeing the patterns and being able to predict that a slot is about to pay a significant sum. This is not normally possible on the regular Vegas/Aussie style games, no matter what strange sequences are observed. With these, it is down to putting enough spins in to make the rare big hit more probable as the number of attempts increases.

 

[Nifty29]

However, I am predicting a big win before it has happened, and based on the past events or "tells", rather than the theory that if I pump enough through it I will get a big hit by chance.

Having observed the right tells, I CAN do it "on demand".

This is not about doing it from scratch, it's seeing the patterns and being able to predict that a slot is about to pay a significant sum. This is not normally possible on the regular Vegas/Aussie style games, no matter what strange sequences are observed. With these, it is down to putting enough spins in to make the rare big hit more probable as the number of attempts increases.

The point is...you can NOT do it on demand. You THINK you see patterns that suggest a pay is imminen, causing you to play on and on. I've seen you admit before you've "seen the signs" but it hasn't "popped", so that proves your system is a bunch of baloney. The GAME decides when it pays out.....not YOU...hence, it is no different to anyone else playing it or any other slot.

If you found a way to force it to pay out when it doesn't want to....then you DO have a way to beat them. You don't. You cannot manipulate the payout in any fashion at all. If you could, then there is NO way any casino would have them. NO WAY.

You see, unless your "tells" produce a megastreak EVERY time, then its just pure luck, like anyone else "feeling" a slot is about to "pop". Your system etc doesn't hold true if it only works sometimes...and you've admitted it doesn't (remember six bomb?).

You're seriously deluding yourself if you think these things are "doable" like the old fruities. Its just not the case.

 

[PCJACKPOT2008]

Liar, Liar, pants on fire

I prefer to believe:-

You saying you were going to win it this month gave me motivation.

 

[Nifty29]

Quick question for Mark

Have the AWPs been "chipped" etc, and when? VWM states it as fact, but nobody has ever produced any proof, nor has any rep ever confirmed it.

Surely revealing such information wouldn't harm 32Red or MGS. In fact, if it happened players should have been told.

IMO, its just like saying "I haven't won big on that slot since I hit that monster ages ago..
They've lowered the RTP!!" I.e. its just the house edge catching up. However, unlike some, I'm happy to be proven incorrect and acknowledge such.

 

[vinylweatherman]

Quick question for Mark

Have the AWPs been "chipped" etc, and when? VWM states it as fact, but nobody has ever produced any proof, nor has any rep ever confirmed it.

Surely revealing such information wouldn't harm 32Red or MGS. In fact, if it happened players should have been told.

IMO, its just like saying "I haven't won big on that slot since I hit that monster ages ago..
They've lowered the RTP!!" I.e. its just the house edge catching up. However, unlike some, I'm happy to be proven incorrect and acknowledge such.

One thing that can be proven 100% is that two AWP games were removed, and never came back, even though the problem was supposed to take a few weeks to fix. Why have the majority of MGS casinos vetoed the return of Treasure Ireland and the Gee Gees, to the Viper client after they were fixed by MGS? Casino Rewards never removed them to start with, and Fortune Lounge took them back when fixed.

It seems very odd that so many MGS operators have decided not to have these two games back, even though the others that had the same fault came back once MGS had declared them fit for purpose.

The fault in question was that the games did not correctly track balances when played in the tabbed lobby, although they were removed a couple of months before the tabbed lobby was implemented.

If MGS was unable to fix this tracking, I would have expected the games to remain absent from ALL Viper clients.

Such an oddity seems counter to the idea that there is absolutely zero chance of the games being vulnerable to any kind of system or strategy.

Where they have returned, the distribution of wins has altered. As these are not entirely random games, this would point to them having been "chipped" at some stage.

 

[Nifty29]

One thing that can be proven 100% is that two AWP games were removed, and never came back, even though the problem was supposed to take a few weeks to fix. Why have the majority of MGS casinos vetoed the return of Treasure Ireland and the Gee Gees, to the Viper client after they were fixed by MGS? Casino Rewards never removed them to start with, and Fortune Lounge took them back when fixed.

It seems very odd that so many MGS operators have decided not to have these two games back, even though the others that had the same fault came back once MGS had declared them fit for purpose.

The fault in question was that the games did not correctly track balances when played in the tabbed lobby, although they were removed a couple of months before the tabbed lobby was implemented.

If MGS was unable to fix this tracking, I would have expected the games to remain absent from ALL Viper clients.

Such an oddity seems counter to the idea that there is absolutely zero chance of the games being vulnerable to any kind of system or strategy.

Where they have returned, the distribution of wins has altered. As these are not entirely random games, this would point to them having been "chipped" at some stage.

A couple of AWPs were removed for a while, and not every casino took them back (almost all the ones I play have...and lots of flash ones too).

Everything else is....as per....supposition and opinion based on one fact.

You (and I) have NO idea why they were removed. You (and I) have no idea whether the "distribution" has changed. You have presented NO evidence at all EVER....its just your opinion based on the fact you haven't been able to reproduce your gigajiggadigga win from 1974 or whenever (when in fact it is because its one of those VERY rare wins).

You're the scientist. Show us your data Commander.

 

[vinylweatherman]

A couple of AWPs were removed for a while, and not every casino took them back (almost all the ones I play have...and lots of flash ones too).

Everything else is....as per....supposition and opinion based on one fact.

You (and I) have NO idea why they were removed. You (and I) have no idea whether the "distribution" has changed. You have presented NO evidence at all EVER....its just your opinion based on the fact you haven't been able to reproduce your gigajiggadigga win from 1974 or whenever (when in fact it is because its one of those VERY rare wins).

You're the scientist. Show us your data Commander.

I do know why they were subject to recall by MGS initially, an operator told me at the meister meeting. When it comes to why some casinos didn't take them back, no one is prepared to comment. I have been promised an answer by a number of accredited casinos, but it seems someone higher up blocks the release of this information.

It is also a highly unusual stance for the operator of a Viper client, as once they have decided what games to offer, they tend to stay on offer until MGS themselves pull them across the board. there have been a few other games pulled after release due to a fault, but they came back, and at ALL Viper casinos.

It may be circumstantial, but it is powerful evidence that some operators got the jitters about these two particular games coming back, whereas others didn't have any worries, and had them back as a matter of routine.

 

[PaaskeDenmark]

Hi PaaskeDKnowUK,

Nice idea, but I'm afraid on play at 32Red contributes to the leaderboard.

Mark

Thanks Mark

Could you check your PM's Mark please? Sent you back on Monday but not heard back from you?

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

Thanks Mark

Could you check your PM's Mark please? Sent you back on Monday but not heard back from you?

Got them mate, just a bit busy at the moment. I'll get back to you ASAP.

 

[ChillBill]

TI always saw this monthly tourney as "a bit of fun" that allows members to compete in a friendly way to win a few bucks. Personally, the idea that someone would deliberately "hide" their spin count to win a (normally) $250 tournament top prize goes against the "spirit" of the whole thing.

I see your point and it's a valid one. Though what's bias here isn't necessarily the players but the Tournament itself. The more money you have to bet is clearly an advantage, that with a fast PC and your ahead already.

Maybe to make it fair for everyone, that's low rollers and high rollers, stage two tournaments. Both having a set spin bet, one for low rollers and one for high rollers. The top 10 winners from these two rounds are entered into two separate freerolls. The top three winners in each, win a specific dollar prize. The prizes in each would be aligned to those who are low rolling and those who were high rolling.

Didn't spend much time thinking that out. So it's likely flawed somewhere but least it's an idea

 

[PaaskeDenmark]

Got them mate, just a bit busy at the moment. I'll get back to you ASAP.

Sorry to rush I can imagine you are a busy man. I would not like to live in your inbox

Thanks Mark

 

[PaaskeDenmark]

I see your point and it's a valid one. Though what's bias here isn't necessarily the players but the Tournament itself. The more money you have to bet is clearly an advantage, that with a fast PC and your ahead already.

Maybe to make it fair for everyone, that's low rollers and high rollers, stage two tournaments. Both having a set spin bet, one for low rollers and one for high rollers. The top 10 winners from these two rounds are entered into two separate freerolls. The top three winners in each, win a specific dollar prize. The prizes in each would be aligned to those who are low rolling and those who were high rolling.

Didn't spend much time thinking that out. So it's likely flawed somewhere but least it's an idea

Sounds okay actually. BUT might be to complicated to actually work out.

My idea would to have lot more random spots giving more players chance of winning. Best thing would be running it as who gets best result over certain amount of spins (average x win) Like the have at many NetEnt casinos. Where its not the size or amount of bets that matters. This way would be fair to everyone.

For me it just seems insane when winners here have like 1 millions spins I don't see any sportsmanship for a fun tournament it's just pure greed.

 

[PaaskeDenmark]

I did not want to read all pages through again. Do I get this right?

As average spin has to be 0.10 (why not just make it 0.09).

Does that mean if I make 1 million spins at 5 line slot like this 1,000,000 X 0,05 = 50,000. Then I make 1,000,000 x 0,15 = 150,000
So not sure why I am using those kind of calculations LOL but to do it short means my "average" wagering is now 0,10 right?

And does that mean I will then get 2 millions spins / points registered?

I don't see how it's actually fair. As the most speculate players / members could just roll on lowest amount available notice how everyone is doing on scoreboard and then "invest" their cash in end to make higher average bets to reach the 0,10 threshold....

I think ONLY when average bet is reached then spins should count ETC when you are at 0,10 average. Or just make it minimum 0,09 bets or 0,15 (no use of average) Hope all this makes sense?

No matter what I am not really keen of a tournament like this. It's great of Mark and 32RED with all the great prizes and so on. But the rules

 

[vinylweatherman]

I did not want to read all pages through again. Do I get this right?

As average spin has to be 0.10 (why not just make it 0.09).

Does that mean if I make 1 million spins at 5 line slot like this 1,000,000 X 0,05 = 50,000. Then I make 1,000,000 x 0,15 = 150,000
So not sure why I am using those kind of calculations LOL but to do it short means my "average" wagering is now 0,10 right?

And does that mean I will then get 2 millions spins / points registered?

I don't see how it's actually fair. As the most speculate players / members could just roll on lowest amount available notice how everyone is doing on scoreboard and then "invest" their cash in end to make higher average bets to reach the 0,10 threshold....

I think ONLY when average bet is reached then spins should count ETC when you are at 0,10 average. Or just make it minimum 0,09 bets or 0,15 (no use of average) Hope all this makes sense?

No matter what I am not really keen of a tournament like this. It's great of Mark and 32RED with all the great prizes and so on. But the rules

I think the 3Dice one works like this, only spins at 0.10 or more counting.

32Red originally thought it fairer to count spins rather than amount wagered, and with a relatively simple scoring system of 1 point for a spin, and 1 extra point if the spin produced a payout.

A more involved scoring system might rebalance the tournament towards the casual player. Perhaps a tiered score for a win based on the amount as a multiple of the stake, or even extra points for playing a variety of different slots (as opposed to racking up loads of spins on a few).

 

[ChillBill]

For me it just seems insane when winners here have like 1 millions spins I don't see any sportsmanship for a fun tournament it's just pure greed.

Aiming for 1mil + in spins, I really doubt is fueled by greed, when the top prize is only $250. Sure this month is $500. Still it's not huge amount of cash. Crunch the numbers and you'll burn a lot more than $250 or even $500 to get 1mil spins. For some peeps it's not about the money at stake but the motivation (for whatever reason) to be 1'st.

 

[mimi26]

No sales are necessary.

Earlier today, I got the "tells" from the AWP "Treasure Ireland", the ones for a potential "megastreak", and I am only £600 in the hole on it. I got the ships off "shifta", and then followed a sequence of 777s and pints of pirate ale. It no longer shows "ships, parrots" as the tell since a rechip some years ago. The very next feature offered 50 winspins right away, before dying. This is tell number two. The machine then died, tell number three.

It's now 19:50 on the 6th August, so this has been officially notified BEFORE I hit any kind of streak. My winner screenshot to be posted when I finally trigger it will be timestamed so as to demonstrate that I haven't already made the win and am now just pretending it's still to come and inventing a story about seeing the predictive pattens beforehand.

If I don't post any screenshot, I was wrong, but I am STILL going to win the Slotsmeister this month

Thames valley nice , no tbh I dont play or spend much at 32red so I will lucky to make it at the bottom of the leaderboard ,

 

[PCJACKPOT2008]

My name isn't showing in the leaderboard again (and I haven't played at 32red in three days).

 

[Jasminebed]

What if all the spots were starred spots, and no one knows what they won until the month is over?

Keep the 10 cent average, and there's still the need to be in the top 32? Minimum prize would be $10 (same as now), some spots might only get an extra 5, another an extra hundred or two.

Same money, different distribution.

You could even break it up into tiers, with first through fifth being higher to begin with.

Or leave it just as it is. I'll never make the top of the heap, but I appreciate playing it every month.

 

[vinylweatherman]

What if all the spots were starred spots, and no one knows what they won until the month is over?

Keep the 10 cent average, and there's still the need to be in the top 32? Minimum prize would be $10 (same as now), some spots might only get an extra 5, another an extra hundred or two.

Same money, different distribution.

You could even break it up into tiers, with first through fifth being higher to begin with.

Or leave it just as it is. I'll never make the top of the heap, but I appreciate playing it every month.

A variation of this idea may be better still. Have a few starred spots, but have them pay bigger prizes than being first. The Slotsmeister would then be all about tactics, rather than piling on the spins. The aim would be to hold a certain position and defend it from others. Low rollers would be on a more equal footing than high rollers, and could profit more from holding, say, position 28, than making a million spins and coming first.

 

[Nifty29]

A variation of this idea may be better still. Have a few starred spots, but have them pay bigger prizes than being first. The Slotsmeister would then be all about tactics, rather than piling on the spins. The aim would be to hold a certain position and defend it from others. Low rollers would be on a more equal footing than high rollers, and could profit more from holding, say, position 28, than making a million spins and coming first.

Here's an extra kick to the whole idea...

What if the prizes for each position were drawn randomly AFTER the tourney had finished. i.e. have the same structure as now, but the $250 prize might go to 1st, or 29th or 14th etc. OR...maybe add a $50 bonus for first regardless as well, so there is still SOME point to trying to be top dog.

How interesting would THAT be??

 

[BIGZEDBUD]

Me thinks I will let all you kidlets fight this out this month.

I am the only one ever had 1.5 million spins in a month and Mark btw, doubled the prizes that month after the fact of me reaching over 1 mil.

VWM has threatened a few times to take that down. I know for a fact, he can. I surmise that a score of nearly 3 mil is possible

I am now going into "stealth mode"....LOL

I got myself a new i7

 

[PCJACKPOT2008]

Guess the "stealth mode" worked. I lost alot of money chasing what I thought was the first place. Well done!

 

[vinylweatherman]

Guess the "stealth mode" worked. I lost alot of money chasing what I thought was the first place. Well done!

I was getting worried I had miscalculated, and I would fail, much to the delight of Nifty.

I have been betting £5 or £10 a spin for a while now to catch up and average 0.10 per spin.

I can still be caught though

 

[Nifty29]

I was getting worried I had miscalculated, and I would fail, much to the delight of Nifty.

I have been betting £5 or £10 a spin for a while now to catch up and average 0.10 per spin.

I can still be caught though

What would I be "delighted" about...??

The whole thing is incredibly childish and silly IMO. It's the kind of thing one would expect in a "maths race" in Primary School.

The fact you're spending hours "winning" what is most likely a "loss" or an incredibly small profit says a lot about the way you think.

I don't give a toss if you win or lose. I'm always happy when someone wins, but these "pissing contests" (excuse the phrase but it's the most apt) that you seem to revel in (e.g. slotmeister, tourneys, AWP "predictions", fastest PC, etc) just make me laugh and think "WTF?"

One thing it DOES highlight....that the slotsmeister has become just another high-roller wagering contest where the average punter has almost no chance of winning anything reasonable. I would be interested to hear if there are people entering and winning bigger prizes that do NOT specifically run 4 or 5 slots at once just to get the numbers up, but rather just play as they normally do.

 

[mimi26]

What would I be "delighted" about...??

The whole thing is incredibly childish and silly IMO. It's the kind of thing one would expect in a "maths race" in Primary School.

The fact you're spending hours "winning" what is most likely a "loss" or an incredibly small profit says a lot about the way you think.

I don't give a toss if you win or lose. I'm always happy when someone wins, but these "pissing contests" (excuse the phrase but it's the most apt) that you seem to revel in (e.g. slotmeister, tourneys, AWP "predictions", fastest PC, etc) just make me laugh and think "WTF?"

One thing it DOES highlight....that the slotsmeister has become just another high-roller wagering contest where the average punter has almost no chance of winning anything reasonable. I would be interested to hear if there are people entering and winning bigger prizes that do NOT specifically run 4 or 5 slots at once just to get the numbers up, but rather just play as they normally do.

I would consider myself an average player at 32red, I only ever bet 45p per spin at the most 90p. I have been on the leaderboard since joining, ok at the bottom part but I still appear, so IMO you dont have to be a big spender to get a place on there. I place most of my money at Ladbrokes because the rewards are more generous for VIPs there.


Edited to add I never play more than one slot at a time EVER I would get too confused

 

[aceking123]

What would I be "delighted" about...??

The whole thing is incredibly childish and silly IMO. It's the kind of thing one would expect in a "maths race" in Primary School.

The fact you're spending hours "winning" what is most likely a "loss" or an incredibly small profit says a lot about the way you think.

I don't give a toss if you win or lose. I'm always happy when someone wins, but these "pissing contests" (excuse the phrase but it's the most apt) that you seem to revel in (e.g. slotmeister, tourneys, AWP "predictions", fastest PC, etc) just make me laugh and think "WTF?"

One thing it DOES highlight....that the slotsmeister has become just another high-roller wagering contest where the average punter has almost no chance of winning anything reasonable. I would be interested to hear if there are people entering and winning bigger prizes that do NOT specifically run 4 or 5 slots at once just to get the numbers up, but rather just play as they normally do.

come on nifty whos rattled your cage today? its just a bit of fun & banter no harm done m8

 

[vinylweatherman]

What would I be "delighted" about...??

The whole thing is incredibly childish and silly IMO. It's the kind of thing one would expect in a "maths race" in Primary School.

The fact you're spending hours "winning" what is most likely a "loss" or an incredibly small profit says a lot about the way you think.

I don't give a toss if you win or lose. I'm always happy when someone wins, but these "pissing contests" (excuse the phrase but it's the most apt) that you seem to revel in (e.g. slotmeister, tourneys, AWP "predictions", fastest PC, etc) just make me laugh and think "WTF?"

One thing it DOES highlight....that the slotsmeister has become just another high-roller wagering contest where the average punter has almost no chance of winning anything reasonable. I would be interested to hear if there are people entering and winning bigger prizes that do NOT specifically run 4 or 5 slots at once just to get the numbers up, but rather just play as they normally do.

It's very hard to design a contest where a high roller does not have a significant advantage.

However, it was tried before in the Slotsmeister by having the top few prizes inverted, making 6th place (I think) the top prize.

I don't play every month now, just one or two times a year, so it's rare to see me on the leaderboard.

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

Ladies/Gents,

I've just realised that it's the 1st of the month and (I think) for the first time since this competition started I'm not going to be able to credit the prizes. I'm travelling at the moment and actually thought I was able to do so without my laptop for once - how wrong!

Apologies for the delay, I am flying home late tonight so should be able to sort them out tomorrow, sorry guys.

Mark

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

Hi Guys,

Thanks for your patience, here are the results from last month:

Position - ForumID - Points - Prize
1 - vinylweatherman - 577431 - 500
2 - b3b44 - 180859 - 150 Plus 75 Bonus
3 - PCJACKPOT - 146217 - 125
4 - sjn - 130114 - 100
5 - plasticnote - 107609 - 100
6 - leetarded - 90866 - 75
7 - johnsteed - 89110 - 50
8 - RUSTYROO - 88358 - 50
9 - chris161 - 82592 - 50
10 - scopolamine - 77638 - 50 Plus 32 Bonus
11 - sattty - 74437 - 50
12 - mippsaublue - 62847 - 32
13 - Nate - 62041 - 32
14 - bosjack - 59333 - 32
15 - pianoman - 49571 - 32
16 - DeBeuker - 46565 - 32
17 - lowdwnsteve - 42416 - 25
18 - flyer187 - 40819 - 25
19 - sukilo - 40505 - 25
20 - maxwall - 38201 - 25 Plus 50 Bonus
21 - sparkles - 38167 - 20
22 - datch - 36912 - 20
23 - sjonnny - 36547 - 20
24 - osloking - 34324 - 20
25 - Tirilej - 33738 - 20
26 - andi - 32232 - 15
27 - randomiam - 31568 - 15
28 - poisonfish - 31030 - 15
29 - shanetospin - 30053 - 15
30 - mimi26 - 29326 - 10 Plus 32 Bonus
31 - Takkaone - 28567 - 10
32 - DepositSpinLose - 28540 - 10

Prizes will be in shortly.

Thanks
Mark

 

[mimi26]

great stuff, I landed on a bonus too , is it 5 x WR for the bonus also?

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

great stuff, I landed on a bonus too , is it 5 x WR for the bonus also?

Sure is, prize should be in now.

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

September Results

Hi Guys!

Wow, 1st October already, where did the first 9 months go!

We have ourselves a new winner for September, welcome to the Slotsmeister Winners List b3b44! :notworthy

Here is the full leaderboard...

Position - ForumID - Points - Prize
1 - b3b44 - 313853 - 250
2 - RUSTYROO - 240771 - 150 plus 50 Bonus
3 - paulcr - 173980 - 125
4 - plasticnote - 161282 - 100
5 - sjn - 153900 - 100
6 - ronnieswpuff - 96581 - 75
7 - shanetospin - 72047 - 50
8 - pianoman - 62299 - 50
9 - bosjack - 60420 - 50
10 - incrediblestuff - 53310 - 50 plus 25 Bonus
11 - bubba1961 - 46821 - 50
12 - Brockie - 43608 - 32
13 - sattty - 41823 - 32
14 - scopolamine - 41771 - 32
15 - andi - 37608 - 32
16 - leetarded - 36989 - 32
17 - LaHutti - 36497 - 25
18 - chris161 - 35426 - 25
19 - PCJACKPOT - 33861 - 25
20 - mimi26 - 33399 - 25 plus 32 Bonus
21 - poisonfish - 32990 - 20
22 - lowdwnsteve - 32026 - 20
23 - bubbleg - 31282 - 20
24 - DeBeuker - 30696 - 20
25 - osloking - 30551 - 20
26 - Nate - 29457 - 15
27 - phil009 - 28575 - 15
28 - sparkles - 28377 - 15
29 - maaster - 28147 - 15
30 - purpletin - 23843 - 10 plus 32 Bonus
31 - sheymus1 - 23255 - 10
32 - kavaman - 22998 - 10

Thanks for playing guys, good luck this month!

Mark