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1605.50$ profit playing 1$ BJ in 20 cessions

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What a great website you have here!! :eek: I love it!

So much infos, suggestions, guidelines, people that've been there, done that, so we don't need to experience it all ourselves. Gonna help me (and everybody) skip alot of mistakes. Wonderful!

First I'm French Canadian. So sometimes you're gonna have to interpret what I'm trying to say. If it really don't make sense, just wave me :what:, and I'll do my best to reformulate. :thumbsup:

For a little more about myself, your gonna have to go to my profile, you'll have a better idea of what kind of person I am. For a start, I'm a poker dealer, and I was a card counter at blackjack for the time we had an edge in my hometown casino (Montral), before they messed-up all the variances (dealer hit on soft17, 8 decks cut at 50%... :axeman:, no need to say more).

Now, I only play blackjack at online casino. And with 20 cessions, you can see that I am a newbie! But, you have to know that I have read 3 gambling books (mainly about blackjack), I bought 3 blackjack programs and I've made thousand of simulations (with the programs, or with a pen and pencils). I've done all this for a year and a half before even playing 1$. And I've done the same thing 7 years ago before playing in a real casino. Back then, I've bought 7 gambling books (with crazy stupid system! haha! All of 'em which isn't good at all, but that's another story). And to add to all of this, of course, all the forum, blog, website that I could put my hands on, hours and hours, days, weeks and months of reading before investing even 1$ at a casino table.

Now, about the title of this thread, well, that's where I am now. With all my research, lectures, simulations, I've come to try a system (I know, all the math wizard are going to tell me that there's no possible system that can beat the odds, and mathematicly, you are right!), in which I need to invest 700 unity (so for me it's 700$) playing 1$ at a time, increasing my bet at some point, playing the perfect basic strategy, never ever ever deviate from it.

So outta 20 cessions, I've had 20 winning cessions (for a minimum of 50$ per cession) 0 losing cession, and the more I had to risk outta my investment was around 450$. I also must have played around 400 to 600 hands per cessions (didn't know precisely, cause I didn't count them, but must be close to 5 hands per minutes.) And I was playing at crappy site like UltimateBet (and we all know what they have done in 2008) and at PartyGaming. So not really good casino for a player who's looking for a great edge. So I wonder what I can do with a good casino.

By the way, I know this is not really a good sample (around 10 000 hands), so I'll let keep in touch, for further result!


Keep up the good work everybody! You are making of this site a real tool for real gamblers!



archimede22
 
Cession 21

Hi again my fellow gamblers!

Here's the news.

First, I change my bankroll from PartyGaming to 1Spin, which is a sister site of DublinBet and JEBet, from VueTec. I made the switch because of the website of aka23 (beatingbonuses). Thanks aka23! Your website is amazing!

I also have two thumbs up to give to 1Spin. When I register, before depositing my money, I look and read everything on the website. At one place, it was written that the min bet at the blackjack tables was 1$ to 300$, and on the screenshot of the table, it was written 5$ to 300$. So I send an e-mail to the support of 1Spin, asking them what was the limit, and they told me it was 1$ to 300$, so I deposit my money. But when I opened the blackjack table for the first time, there were no 1$-300$ table. So I send another e-mail to the support, starting to steem up a little bit, informing them about the situation, well, less than 24 hours later, I receive there response which was saying :

"Hello Mathieu,
Our Apologies.
The BlackJack and MultiHand BlackJack games on 1spin.com have now been set at $1 minimums."

So a good ending!

Now. About my 21st cession, it's another succes : 105$ profit, in 3H20, and 1029 BlackJack hands. So the total result are now :



21 cessions;
21 winning cessions;
0 losing cession;
1710.50$ profit.




See y'all!!




archimede22
 
No point in it

I can understand your scepticism. But I'm not trying to sell something here. I'm just happy to share a succes (for now) experience I have, with people that have the same interest as me.

I know a lot of gamblers have the tendency to lie about their winnings, but you have to believe me on this one : not my type. And there is not point in doing so anyway. I have no advantage or interest. If I just want some attention, believe me, I would not give myself so much trouble. I'll go with something a lot simpler than register into a gambling forum, creating a story, with numbers, stats, be careful not to made mistake in my lies... come on...

And the day my first losing cession will come, it'll be just one more statistic to me, it'll have to add "1" in my losing cession section. Nothing more nothing less. It'll have to substract 700$ to my profit, and that'll be it, I'll just keep on going from then on.

But for now, I did not create a story, or exagerate one, I'm just telling you where I am right now. That's it.

And let alone the fact that you've been playing blackjack for 15 years doesn't mean much from what I know of you, which is nothing (I really mean no offence. Don't forget, I'm french, so sometime when I have something to say, it does not come the right way, but if you keep on reading, I think you'll understand what I mean). But, what does mean something is the path in which you or your entourage have made their way toward those years. Me neither I have never seen anybody have 21 winning cessions at blackjack, or at any other gambling games. But I have never seen either anybody play blackjack the way I do. Or study as much as I have in any particular discipline, with as much as dicsipline as I have.

At 11 (14 years from now) I had calculate all the odds of every game of Loto-Quebec (the legal provider of lotery in Quebec and Canada), Banco 10 numbers 9/10 8/10... 9/9,..., 6/49, Super7... . I knew every odds of every games! At 11! With a pen, a few papers, and a calculator. So I know that the odds probably can't wait to catch me here. But I'm an optimistic, so I'll keep on hoping that the math will forget about me. Which is what is happening right now (knock on wood).

But, for now, I have 21 winning cessions in a row, and outta 21 (never lose cause I have start with that cessions) 1710.50U$D net profit, from 3 casino (UltimateBet, PartyGaming and 1SPIN). With a betting system that for now work freaking good! And the perfect basic strategy for the specific table (from aka23 website :thumbsup:).

But thanks for your comment!

I hope it have clear a little bit things up.



archimede22
 
From what you posted, your sessions are not long. And realistically it is one long session, with breaks.

Another player might play one session and achieve your current win.

I wish you continued success. Judicial use of bonuses will give you an edge, but I caution you on the flat betting, or you might be accused of "bot" play. Perfect play with stable bets is what bots do (they are meant to play to minimize losses). This is an excuse that many casinos will use to deny winnings.

I am not accusing you of being a bot or using one, but be careful some casino does not accuse you of such.
 
hi

o.k i got to smile at ur reply to winbig:) it was imo very funny i know u did,nt mean for it to sound that way. but something in the way u worded it made me smile. but i would listen to what jasminebed posted caz when i read ur post that is one of the frist thing that popped into my mind was everyone would think bot use. and if it crossies our minds then it will sooner or later cross the minds of the casinos and u might not get paid. i have seen it happen so much on this site. so be careful and have fun and i hope u keep making money.
 
o.k i got to smile at ur reply to winbig:) it was imo very funny i know u did,nt mean for it to sound that way. but something in the way u worded it made me smile. but i would listen to what jasminebed posted caz when i read ur post that is one of the frist thing that popped into my mind was everyone would think bot use. and if it crossies our minds then it will sooner or later cross the minds of the casinos and u might not get paid. i have seen it happen so much on this site. so be careful and have fun and i hope u keep making money.

Every hand of blackjack is completely random. Previous hands don't say anything about future hands. Apart from card counting, there are 0 applicable systems (you are probably using some sort of Martingale system)
 
Thx guys!

Hey thx everybody for the commentaries.

First, Jasminebed is right about the fact that what I'm doing is like "one verry long session". All in all, I've played for 35 hours, so no big deal here. 35 hours spread on 21 sessions.

About the flat betting, maybe my earlier post wasn't clear enough, but this is not what I am doing. For example, on my last session, I wagered for 3 828$ outta 1029 hands. So my average on that session was 3.72$/bet. At one point in that session, I bet 26$, 25 times in a row. And before that, 25$ 5 times, 22$... So no flat betting, and certainly no bot! I know nothing about this anyway, extect that it's a thing that you program to play for you...

It's RL85 that is the closer on this one (no big secret here), any good system have to derive from the Martingale. But the thing with the matingale, at a 1$ 300$ table (in an example with no spit, double or surrender, just to keep thing simple) you can only play your system 9 losing hands in a row, after that your done. And that would have occur twice in my last session, one sequence of 11 lost in a row, and one of 12.

(By the way, I totally agree with what you say RL85, but as I said in my earlier post : "But I'm an optimistic, so I'll keep on hoping that the math will forget about me. Which is what is happening right now (knock on wood).")

In my system, starting a new sequence, after losing 9 hands more that I've won (ex. : 9L/0W, 12L/3W, 24L/15W...), things get a little bit complicated, but let just say that I can have a losing sequence up to 35 lost in a row, and then get a winning sequence of 6 more win than lost. Don't know if it's clear, but it doesn't really matter for now.

So my system have nothing magic, but the strength of it is that it lengthen the more possible the non losing streak (by being able to accept 35 more lost than win in the same sequence, and then winning 6 more time than lost).

And I'm playing at a casino which have +0.07% (reference from aka23 website) edge for the player. So in the long run, I hope this will play for something.

One last thing, thx kauphy for your post. I didn't necessarily meant to make people laugh, but if it can make people at least smile, that's a pretty good thing. No offence to nobody by the way. But in a community of many thousand people, we should be careful into what we say. Or at least the way we say it.

Take care everybody. Just about to start session number 22. Keep in touch!!


archimede22



P.S. to moderator : I'm pretty sure my post might not be in the good section. Feel free to move it if you think it can go someplace else.
 
Just realize I'm not the first one about this :


This just seems fishy to me.

I've been playing blackjack for over 15 years, and I've NEVER seen anyone go more than a handful of non-losing sessions, let alone 21.

Here's another one :

first post, already names a casino and how much they won?
hmmmm fishy

Here's the anwser to that :

Don't worry - we tend to get a little bit cynical when new posters come in naming casinos because there are so many crappy spammers out there who come by just to promote their junk websites with no respect for the forum, it's owner or members. No offence intended. I'd like to see more members give posters the benefit of the doubt when links aren't used personally, or it could alienate decent folks ;)
:)


And I would like insist on that part :

I'd like to see more members give posters the benefit of the doubt when links aren't used personally, or it could alienate decent folks ;)
:)
 
Just realize I'm not the first one about this :




Here's another one :



Here's the anwser to that :




And I would like insist on that part :



:rolleyes:

Why push the subject? Simmo made his point, and we've all been able to read it (those that are reading this thread, anyways.)

So, why not just let sleeping dogs lie? ...and not bring other people into it, that have no idea that they're being quoted, and out of context at that?

If you're looking to start a fight, go elsewhere. This'll be my first and only post on this subject.
 
I have no objection to the posts. Everyone's entitled to a lucky streak now and then - but I will reaffirm that there is NO such thing as a winning system at blackjack, unless you call quitting every time you get ahead a system.

Be aware, however, that posts like this certainly may seem dubious to people - and if we moderators get dubious, we may choose to close the thread or edit posts.

In the meantime - carry on winning while you can! :)
 
My apologies

I want to say sorry to winbig.

Didn't mean to get this situation that far. But I felt kidda attact and vulnerable to the situation. But you are right. If you want it to end there, than I'm done, and again, I'm sorry.

I also want to give an apology to jerrylee as well. My objectif was not to include him in my situation and put him out of context, but to point out the reaction of a moderator about that situation which was pretty similar to mine.

Finaly, I want to thank spearmaster. You are also right about the fact that there is NO winning system (from a betting system with no cards counting) at BlackJack. And you where talking about being ahead in a system, well I sure am, cause when I'll have my lost, it will be of 700$ (probably a little less) and I'm already more than 1800$ in net profit. So I can't be a loser from this system, cause as soon as I'll have my first lost, I'll stop that system, and go looking for a better one! ;) Even tho there's no winning system. But I'm a little bit stupid on that one. I can't stop being optimistic... Simple-minded me... :what:

See y'all!


archimede22
 
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Hey welcome to the forum dude.

I am glad about your blackjack success.

I have been flat-betting using basic strategy for some time now. Overall I am a loser, not a huge loser, but flat-betting with basic strategy I find over the long term definately results in a loss. However the loss isn't a big deal, and I just enjoy playing the game. Some sessions I end up ahead, and others I end up behind... but it keeps me entertained when I can't do much else, and means my casino credits last longer than they would do, if I used a betting system.

It does bother me if flat-betting is going to start being equated with bot play. This is very bad, and I don't think casinos should start telling people how they should bet, it kills the element of free choice, fun and comfort. Yes they might make more money from people making stupid erratic bets, but in the long term they will lose out, as old players will leave and stop playing their games if they don't like the terms and aren't allowed to bet how they like. There can only be so many new players, and the resource will eventually run dry, and even less new players now there is a world-wide credit crunch. I really don't want to be made to feel like a criminal just because I flat-bet. That's just bullshit.

I feel comfortable just flat-betting and tend to go into my own little bubble a bit like meditation when I'm playing like this, doing this I can make my casino credits last long enough for me to feel like I've had a decent game and to satisfy the addiction and be entertained. And it saves me a fortune and makes my family happy, cause I'm not creating financial ruin.

I don't like to raise my bets... raising bets I find generally results in a big loss and a short play session, which makes you feel crappy after, and is no fun. I often get caught out by those long losing streaks, which seem to happen a lot more often than you think they will. I have tried every system under the sun and ended up in debt because of them. I wish I had never read them. And as result I no longer raise my bets... if casinos are going to start telling me I am like a criminal for wanting to play like this, then that's sad and evil.

Basic strategy on it's own won't make you a long term winner. I don't think any strategy will work with online blackjack. You can't count cards cause the deck is shuffled after every hand, which isn't necessary a bad thing as this is supposed to help basic strategy players if the deck is continuosly shuffled, just is bad for card counters.

You will generally lose with basic strategy but not a lot, only a small amount, but this is over a long period of time where all your winning and losing sessions balance out to paint a big picture. My picture generally tends to have a minus in there... but not as big a minus as it would be if I played using a stupid system that just makes you lose faster.

If you play basic strategy without mistakes overall you maybe just lose what it would cost you to go down the pub. Depending on your bet size, if you bet $5-$10 a hand maybe you lose the equivalent of many nights out down the pub...

However this is just my experience, doesn't necessarily reflect everyone elses. In my opinion, it seems the only way to really make money with online blackjack is to find a casino which offers a decent bonus and allows 100% weighting in the wagering requirements, otherwise beating online blackjack in my opinion is impossible and you should just play for fun and use basic strategy to minimize your losses. I have just learnt to look at it as something I like to do, blackjack has become like a drug, and every now and then I have to feed my addiction, if I flatbet following basic strategy it means it won't cost me my house...

I would love to play in a live casino, but sadly I am not very mobile due to progressive disability, so am restricted to playing online, I really don't think it is possible to beat any online game, except maybe poker if you are very skilled.

However recently, I have started getting into the blackjack tournaments on microgaming and find I enjoy these a lot. It has caused me to reinstall microgaming on my machine and to become my favourite software again. The blackjack tournaments are ace. They have free ones and cheap sit and gos at $2 a buy-in. I am at the moment making a little profit at these, this will probably change, but maybe this is the way to go now for making money at online blackjack? Especially now that bonuses tend to either exclude blackjack from the wagering requirements or give them a 5-10% weighting. Making it near impossible to make money with blackjack playing for bonuses.

Maybe tournaments are the way forward. Casinos aren't going to accuse you of bot-play, bonus abuse, or ban you. As the money you win is in a pot, and the casino has already taken their cut... sounds like it could be a win-win situation for blackjack players and casinos...

Even if you don't win, it is still enjoyable playing against other players instead of a computer, and doesn't cost you a fortune, if you just play the free ones it doesn't cost you anything.

This has become another lengthy post... sorry I am having trouble sleeping due to new medication.

Anyway I hope you continue to win and I hope this blurb of mine will help you in some small way... good luck and may the force be with you.
 
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:)

Hey thx funky!

Appreciate your post and your generous sharing.

I'm glad to see that people are able to know themself enough to realize they may have some kind of problem with gambling, and find a logical and healthy way to reduce, minimise and even erradicate the problem. Seems to be your case and I admire that. It's refreshing to hear my friend.

But it suck that flat betting is an issue. Didn't even know that one. :what: Do the casinos have something in written in their terms and conditions section? Or they just give a hard time to people that seems to abuse their bonuses? Sorry to be that dumd on this one... (I know someone point it out earlier in my thread, but didn't realize it was that serious...)

Anyway, I really which you the best for your online gambling (by the way, I don't if you know, so I'm just pointing it out, but some online casino offer real live dealer, so may be a more enjoyable option for your physical condition).

By the time I'll get my long enough losing streak so I'll have a losing session, it might be a good option to look into BlackJack Tournament. Thanks for that.

And the best of luck to you!


archimede22
 
:(

It had to happen at some point...

700$ lost in 1H00

So, total results :


24 sessions;
23 winning sessions;
1 losing session;
40H20;
1205.50$ profit.


Gonna need to find something else now... :Read:




Take care now everybody


archimede22
 

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