I'd hazard a guess that a lot of the bonus bans that members complain about come after multiple or large withdrawals from non-deposit / free spin bonuses; I've only ever really accepted welcome offers where WR's are seem manageable or non deposit bonuses and FS's. I only take up subsequent bonuses if they're WR's are xB only (purely for extra playtime) or the second chance type ones...
That's not entirely the case. There's been quite a few here who have bonus banned for merely doing well on only the welcome bonuses.
I myself have even got bonus banned by a casino despite NOT being in profit at that casino. Sometimes you can be bonus banned simply for taking bonuses "too often", even if you are not winning from them. There's definitely a certain level of hypocrisy on the part of some casinos - they are happy to let you take the bonuses, but they aren't so happy to see you beating them. And then they unleash the ban hammer on you as some form of spiteful punishment for daring to win.
With regards to experienced slot players are you talking streamers? It's just personally I never really see high rollers taking bonuses with any silly WR's - although how would you know unless you asked? - but I imagine they'd shop around their VIP reps for the best rewards available in the first instance and low wager bonuses next!?
Not at all. Streaming is still a relatively new thing and I know very little about it, especially stuff like what bonuses the steamers get. If it wasn't for the various streaming-related threads, I'd know diddly squat about it. From what little I do know, it would seem that the streamers seem to be able to get a good deal from the casinos they promote. The kind of deal that us "ordinary folk" would never see.
What I was talking about was players like myself (6 years and counting) and Jono (at least 13 years(?) and counting), people who have been slotting long before streaming was even an idea in someone's head. Jono (and I don't think he would object to me saying this) takes bonuses almost all the time and he has never made any secret of it and the reasons why he does so....he has a budget, he has to stick to it and therefore he has to shop around for the best deal. I can fully respect that, because I was just the same when I started out. But now that I have a bigger budget to play with, I can afford to be a lot less fussy than I used to be.
I tend to agree that the majority of bonus t's and c's take the piss though, we want to relax (until we clench our bum cheeks anyway :laugh ) not read Japanese for a bloody hour - although I will if necessary. I won't be burnt twice
Yeah they can be a bit of a piss take. I know myself I have seen some bonuses which look good on the surface. Then you read the t's and c's and if it's not a max cashout rule, then it's ambiguous language. Next thing I know, that bonus just became less attractive than the sight of an elephant taking a massive dump. There are times when I see a bonus that looks good and I don't take it up, simply because I know it is going to involve spending an hour reading a load of gobbledygook. But if I want to take a bonus badly enough, I will always do my due diligence, no matter how much a PITA it is. I can't think of anything worse than winning big, only to find it's all for nothing, because you couldn't be arsed reading a few t's and c's for 5 minutes. That would be a seriously bitter pill to swallow.
I asked if you meant streamers as they would, I imagine, receive many more no wager bonuses, or at least much more attractive wagering reqs/t's and c's attached than your average Joe Bloggs does - maybe I'm wrong'. But, Hell I'm tempted to take it up myself to find out...
They more than likely do. Although there may well be some which are tied into depositing levels, amounts wagered in a set period, being at a certain level, tier or status etc.
Ps - where do I find these +EV bonuses...!? Genuinely....
If only I knew lol. But just for one example, having watched dunover's vids over the years, he has mentioned at the start of some of his videos getting some loyalty bonuses that were +EV and explaining why they were +EV. I'm assuming that Sky Vegas was among the places where he has had some of those +EV bonuses. Again though, I think the vast majority of them were loyalty-based. So I know they exist. I just haven't been the one getting them lol.