Youtube banning slot streaming

[lockinlove]

If streamers are offered fake money to stream by casinos that are accredited here that is dreadful. If there is any proof of this that can be passed to a mod maybe?

sure if they want it but I dont think its against any rules. I have a few screenshot emails kicking around somewhere where they offer it to the streamer and blatantly say "We understand you dont want to play with test money but for streamers this is very common on twitch and the industry. i would say from experience the majority are playing with casino money" This was the response after the streamer asked for reload bonuses to advertise them. Through out the email they suggested he play with fake money. I think a handful of the emails I had sent to me are from at least a couple accredited casinos here.

Leovegas admitted to it in a thread around here. But then stated that they dont do it anymore But I think you knew about that. If I recall you were posting in the thread about them allowing casinorobot to fake stream.

Slotsmillion rep said its common or something like that and they have been approached but refused it and actually dont really allow people on twitch to advertise their brand because of it. And wont name, names.

i have no problem if people play with fake money. I would actually suggest it so they dont lose money but just be honest about it is all. Preying on others to get ahead really bothers me.

 

[mack341]

Not really. Even with a bonus ive seen streamers lose thousands in a month. The casino is just helping them get more play time which in turn gives them both more advertising before going broke too fast

I understand some of the streamers make a loss but effectively the loss would be greater [and I think realistic] without the 'indirect funding' from the casino in the form of several deposit match bonuses. The streamer would have to practice responsible gambling, if say with the extra bonuses they can afford to stream 4 hours a day at £4 stake, with a normal amount of bonuses they would have to drop to 3hrs at £2 stake. And they would still be able to do high stakes from time to time.

The 'advertising' is probably the grey area for youtube, in essence they've become a free advertising platform for casinos [slots etc] via the streamers. Maybe they don't mind this and the streams have been halted temporarily for some other reason, it did happen before and then the streams came back.

 

[trancemonkey]

There is a reason why there are age restrictions. Because science and studies suggest the ages they are set at is when a human matures and their decision making is at its most mature. You may as well take away alcohol, smoking, weed and everything else if it hasnt nothing to do with being grown up. And force everyone to be robots instead of allowing them to use their brain.

Is there a study showing at what age people voting for Trump are making the right decisions?

Sorry - i couldn't resist!

 

[mack341]

I can see both sides here - from a slotter's point of view it's ridiculous a player can sit playing on a stream with no incentive other than to basically demonstrate slots for the purpose of advertising. Then again the advertising industry routinely uses fakery and replacement in the very ads you watch every day - that glass of cold orange juice with condensation on the outside - simply a wax model for example. As long as the product advertised is what is actually delivered to the customer, the means of advertising it and its representation aren't necessarily illegal or disingenuous but in fact routine. The young couple driving the convertible car in an Audi ad, seemingly blazing through the countryside with wind in their hair, in fact on a rolling road behind a wind machine, yet this in no way depicts something that wouldn't be possible with the product in question. So from a legal standpoint, does a sponsored fake streamer demonstrate anything that would NOT be possible for a new customer playing real cash?

I think some on here don't understand the world of advertising. Yes, I think it's bloody stupid but illegal or rogue? Unfortunately no I'd say.

Dunover I've been searching through every comment under your videos for the 'Ron M' rhino hit link, I must be missing something as I can't see it anywhere, any pointers?

 

[DavidShush]

I agree the slots are realistic, though some of the streamers do seem to regularly hit big while othes don't. If you compare the bandit's hit rate [the bandit doesn't stream but compiles highlights of his sessions 3 or 4 times a week] with nickslots, jimbocasino and rocknrolla, he rarely gets a good win and has to try and get a recovery using the reel king gamble feature.

Bandit rarely gets a good win? I suggest viewing all his videos and doing the maths with regards to all his deposits and wins/losses. For the past few MONTHS his videos go like this : Deposit £1000, lose £1000, deposit another £1000, win £3000+. That's it. Sometimes it's a crazy gamble on games like Reel King where he seems to always get near the top of the ladder, other times he'll tilt on something like Danger High Voltage and get an amazing bonus feature.

Either he's the luckiest guy playing slots or something else is going on. He seems decent so I'm not sure. But I know that after watching all his videos his sessions are the complete opposite of mine 99% of the time. How can that be?

 

[mack341]

Bandit rarely gets a good win? I suggest viewing all his videos and doing the maths with regards to all his deposits and wins/losses. For the past few MONTHS his videos go like this : Deposit £1000, lose £1000, deposit another £1000, win £3000+. That's it. Sometimes it's a crazy gamble on games like Reel King where he seems to always get near the top of the ladder, other times he'll tilt on something like Danger High Voltage and get an amazing bonus feature.

Either he's the luckiest guy playing slots or something else is going on. He seems decent so I'm not sure. But I know that after watching all his videos his sessions are the complete opposite of mine 99% of the time. How can that be?

yeah he has had some decent wins on dhv, extra chilli and white rabbit but all at highish stakes though and two of those he can repeat buy the feature if need be. [he did win on that tiki tumble game as well the other day.] He has got to the top on the reel king gamble feature but most people never risk their big wins to do that so you can't really tell if he is more lucky there than anyone else who plays reel king, and also I don't know what the odds are of each gamble. I know he doesn't do as well with the card gambles where you choose red/black or the suit.

just looking at his channel and he has done 54 streams this year so far, depositing at least £1,000 in each, many times he redeposits to make it £2,000 +, he generally starts playing at £2 stake and then raises when the session is not going well. For the amount of money and time he's spent I would have expected him to have some more wins especially when you compare him to nick, jimbo, rocknrolla etc..

However I think they tend to change games more often, whereas bandit's videos are a bonus compilation and so once he chooses a game to play he stays with it longer, 150+ spins, to try and get the bonus for the viewers to see. So if the game is playing badly, taking ages to bonus with a lowish rtp, it will decimate his balance even at £2. I think he should maybe do 50 spins and then switch game and just show a bit more footage of the normal spins [like dunover does], its impossible to regularly make a 45 min video of bonus rounds unless you are super lucky.

 

[dunover]

Dunover I've been searching through every comment under your videos for the 'Ron M' rhino hit link, I must be missing something as I can't see it anywhere, any pointers?

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It's been posted in winner screenshots

 

[mack341]

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Thanks Dunover for this, what a hit, As you have said the x3 makes all the difference. Your rhino observation that after a 4 scatter bonus it tends to give another bonus within 50 spins came good for me again this week as I got a consecutive four scatter, but then I thought will I get another bonus after this 4 scatter as well and it did within 20 spins but it was just a BOG. It has given me a couple of 300x wins this week so I think the html version is not too bad after all.

 

[dunover]

Thanks Dunover for this, what a hit, As you have said the x3 makes all the difference. Your rhino observation that after a 4 scatter bonus it tends to give another bonus within 50 spins came good for me again this week as I got a consecutive four scatter, but then I thought will I get another bonus after this 4 scatter as well and it did within 20 spins but it was just a BOG. It has given me a couple of 300x wins this week so I think the html version is not too bad after all.

I think Ron M (one of my subs on YT who won it!) said it was the old non-html5 version at Videoslots?

 

[mack341]

I think Ron M (one of my subs on YT who won it!) said it was the old non-html5 version at Videoslots?

oh I saw the SG logo and thought it was the new version, maybe its the mobile version or something. I just wish SG would sort themselves out and reintroduce auto spin on their games, I played monopoly movers today and its not a bad game but even for a 5p win you have to move your mouse pointer from the spin button to click the screen to get it to move on, its torture playing even 30 spins on it.

 

[Deeplay]

The Bandits slot channel just had a take downon YT. Was about to watch his latest vid went to grab a drink and the channel was gone

"This account has been terminated due to multiple or severe violations of YouTube's policy against spam, deceptive practices and misleading content or other Terms of Service violations."

Shame as he was one of the few I did watch! Loved his videos which were all high lights of bonus rounds, he always pushed responsible gambling, never tried to entice people to deposit anywhere and did some mental give aways and prize draws, which I think may have actually got him banned in the end ironically as it was linked to gambling. Shame to see him go but seems like YT are going all out to rid themselves of all gambling related material.

No one is live streaming through YT either now, not that I watch live streams and most of the streamers are a total pain in the backside with the inflated hyped up responses to a win. Casino Daddy and Roshtein being the most annoying of the lot so I would not miss them and the fake videos. Nick slots also gone. But the Bandit like Dunover is one of the good guys with content worth watching. Sorry to see him booted.

 

[mack341]

The Bandits slot channel just had a take downon YT. Was about to watch his latest vid when to grab a drink and the channel was gone

"This account has been terminated due to multiple or severe violations of YouTube's policy against spam, deceptive practices and misleading content or other Terms of Service violations."

Shame as he was one of the few I did watch! Loved his videos which were all high lights of bonus rounds, he always pushed responsible gambling, never tried to entice people to deposit anywhere and did some mental give aways and prize draws, which I think may have actually got him banned in the end ironically as it was linked to gambling. Shame to see him go but seems like YT are going all out to rid themselves of all gambling related material.

No one is live streaming through YT either now, not that I watch live streams and most of the streamers are a total pain in the backside with the inflated hyped up responses to a win. Casino Daddy and Roshtein being the most annoying of the lot so I would not miss them and the fake videos. Nick slots also gone. But the Bandit like Dunover is one of the good guys with content worth watching. Sorry to see him booted.

I wish youtube would tell people what's what, I may have had an issue with some of nickslots imagery over emphasing the wins etc.. but still he should be given an explanation. CasinoDaddy is livestreaming as we speak.
bandit going will piss me off a fair bit, and to me videos on twitch don't feel the the same.

 

[goatwack]

So Bandit was banned for essentially high shilling and 'enticing' people to donate in the hope of attaining some prizes then I take it?

Less about protecting children from the evils of slotting then

 

[Deeplay]

I wish youtube would tell people what's what, I may have had an issue with some of nickslots imagery over emphasing the wins etc.. but still he should be given an explanation. CasinoDaddy is livestreaming as we speak.
bandit going will piss me off a fair bit, and to me videos on twitch don't feel the the same.

Right didnt know casino daddy was back up not that I watch them as they seem like a right bunch of pricks. Thing is Youtube dont really have to explain anything they are just too big. Are a law unto themselves ... in the end I can see them banning all gambling content - at least in some regions ... like the UK with its ever increasing strict criteria for gambling adverts ...

 

[Deeplay]

So Bandit was banned for essentially high shilling and 'enticing' people to donate in the hope of attaining some prizes then I take it?

Less about protecting children from the evils of slotting then

I honestly never saw him or heard him ask for donations. But maybe I missed something who knows I just watched the vids as i liked his style. He didnt seem over the top on pushing casinos .. but who knows. Fucked up though as I was looking forward to watching more of his ladder gambles ... he had some insane wins on those.

 

[xxshepxx]

TheBandit and dunover will be a miss. The rest...not so much.

They will all be back sooner or later. Earning money for YouTube & casinos. YouTube just want a piece of the pie.

 

[k6kaysix]

From what I've heard there are just a bunch of people going round and mass reporting all gambling/streamer videos as spam and that is what causes the strikes and channel loss, may be wrong though. They can appeal but they're small fish in the YouTube pond anyway, if they had 3 million subscribers maybe but 30,000 is a drop in the ocean sadly.

One thing for sure their affiliation revenue will be massively impacted by the loss of a YouTube route, Twitch doesn't seem to have the same appeal (and the 'Casino' category is full of spam too). Probably why none of them can also be bothered in just creating their own video streaming service, not that many people would view it other than the regulars.

If a channel is terminated does that mean they lose the messages and things too? Some are in a bit of a panic as they do their giveaways based on things such as YouTube usernames and comments!

 

[interlog]

From what I've heard there are just a bunch of people going round and mass reporting all gambling/streamer videos as spam and that is what causes the strikes and channel loss, may be wrong though. They can appeal but they're small fish in the YouTube pond anyway, if they had 3 million subscribers maybe but 30,000 is a drop in the ocean sadly.

One thing for sure their affiliation revenue will be massively impacted by the loss of a YouTube route, Twitch doesn't seem to have the same appeal (and the 'Casino' category is full of spam too). Probably why none of them can also be bothered in just creating their own video streaming service, not that many people would view it other than the regulars.

If a channel is terminated does that mean they lose the messages and things too? Some are in a bit of a panic as they do their giveaways based on things such as YouTube usernames and comments!

Channels have been banned and then unbanned. When they were unbanned, everything was back to how it was. So no loss of videos, comments etc.

 

[mcgameboy]

So Bandit was banned for essentially high shilling and 'enticing' people to donate in the hope of attaining some prizes then I take it?

Less about protecting children from the evils of slotting then

He was banned because someone wanted him banned mate.

I will admit I am a fan of the Bandit and I do follow his channel. I have seen no evidence of him asking for or taking donations.

To be honest, I think he is one of the more trustworthy channels out there.
He does take the responsible gambling thing very seriously. He will mention Gamban (which he has on his own site), and frequently preaches
to his viewers "only spend what you can afford" during his vids. He also has Gamstop and Gamcare on his Gamban page.

He also doesn't try to hide or gloss over the bad side of gambling. Many of his vids end in bustouts, sometimes more than one in the same video.
He also doesn't take bonuses (plenty of YT channels out there are owned by players/streamers who take bonuses that the regular punter like you and I would NEVER get offered in our lifetime).

I honestly find it a disgrace that he gets banned while people like NickSlots, CasinoDaddy, CasinoTest24 and Roshtein do not. Their vids are just pure clickbait.

 

[Borgie]

He was banned because someone wanted him banned mate.

I will admit I am a fan of the Bandit and I do follow his channel. I have seen no evidence of him asking for or taking donations.

To be honest, I think he is one of the more trustworthy channels out there.
He does take the responsible gambling thing very seriously. He will mention Gamban (which he has on his own site), and frequently preaches
to his viewers "only spend what you can afford" during his vids. He also has Gamstop and Gamcare on his Gamban page.

He also doesn't try to hide or gloss over the bad side of gambling. Many of his vids end in bustouts, sometimes more than one in the same video.
He also doesn't take bonuses (plenty of YT channels out there are owned by players/streamers who take bonuses that the regular punter like you and I would NEVER get offered in our lifetime).

I honestly find it a disgrace that he gets banned while people like NickSlots, CasinoDaddy, CasinoTest24 and Roshtein do not. Their vids are just pure clickbait.

Nickslots you tube is banned. Its supposed to be a permanent ban . He's appealing it as his argument is either everyone should be banned or nobody. Casinodaddy keep losing their channel and then getting it back. Roshstein is on a 3 month ban at present. (Praise be) Casinotest are disbanded and do not stream anymore. There are others who have lost and regained channel. They only put videos in now as streaming seems to get you banned quicker. Who knows what's going on and why.

 

[Balthazar]

I liked the Bandit's videos and I'm genuinely upset. Hopefully it's not the result of the f̶u̶c̶k̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶m̶o̶r̶o̶n̶s̶ fine folks who spam the YT comments with lies and conspiracies about streamers.

 

[Deeplay]

He was banned because someone wanted him banned mate.

I will admit I am a fan of the Bandit and I do follow his channel. I have seen no evidence of him asking for or taking donations.

To be honest, I think he is one of the more trustworthy channels out there.
He does take the responsible gambling thing very seriously. He will mention Gamban (which he has on his own site), and frequently preaches
to his viewers "only spend what you can afford" during his vids. He also has Gamstop and Gamcare on his Gamban page.

He also doesn't try to hide or gloss over the bad side of gambling. Many of his vids end in bustouts, sometimes more than one in the same video.
He also doesn't take bonuses (plenty of YT channels out there are owned by players/streamers who take bonuses that the regular punter like you and I would NEVER get offered in our lifetime).

I honestly find it a disgrace that he gets banned while people like NickSlots, CasinoDaddy, CasinoTest24 and Roshtein do not. Their vids are just pure clickbait.

True about the clickbait and its channels like Roshtein and the casinodaddy nobs who have probably got the other legit slot channels on the radar. I hope bandit does get his back. He never live streamed and it was only ever highlights and not some anal
3 hour stream of inflated reactions and self serving ego boosts.

 

[Webzcas]

TheBandit and dunover will be a miss. The rest...not so much.

They will all be back sooner or later. Earning money for YouTube & casinos. YouTube just want a piece of the pie.

Dunover Slots is up.

 

[dunover]

Dunover Slots is up.

Yes, never been taken down as I'm not a streamer. I think the poster was predicting doom for the channel before it happens. I have noticed they've added an advice box to my channel when I upload now though and since then I have been careful about links. I can add my site fastpayingcasinos as much as I like as that is vetted and approved by YT and linked to the channel.

 

[Deeplay]

Hi my post was about The Bandit only and his YT take down not dunovers ... just to clarify

 

[dunover]

Hi my post was about The Bandit only and his YT take down not dunovers ... just to clarify

Yeah, I was referring to the xxxxshtep above.

 

[Webzcas]

Yes, never been taken down as I'm not a streamer. I think the poster was predicting doom for the channel before it happens. I have noticed they've added an advice box to my channel when I upload now though and since then I have been careful about links. I can add my site fastpayingcasinos as much as I like as that is vetted and approved by YT and linked to the channel.

Yep, I believe they are going after channels which have affiliate links everywhere, within the video content and the description.

 

[DavidShush]

I watched some of the Bandits videos but he would ban anyone who wasn't kissing his ass. When someone constantly does gambles and comes out on top more often than not, you have to wonder if something is a miss as it's not really the typical result to be expected from playing these games. There do need to be some winners, but is it realistic that the same winner has a profitable session 9 out of 10 times? 8 Out of 10 times? 7?

I haven't been through every video adding up deposits and withdrawals/losses but I'm reasonably sure he's in profit going by some of the huge wins he had, and the rare times he would lose his deposit and then some.

If I see someone winning too much I can't help but wonder if anything is going on as it's just a constant encouragement to gamble, and often in the case of Bandit, tilt, then win all your money back and then some. It's a dangerous example to those who will try to emulate that experience for themselves, and there will be some. This is why simply putting a warning about gambling in your video doesn't quite cut out the next hour+ of influencing people to spunk their money on slots.

Saying that I hope his channel gets back up soon but I think YouTube need to do more to keep material like that away from users who try to avoid that content popping up in their recommendations and what not.

 

[goatwack]

He was banned because someone wanted him banned mate.

I will admit I am a fan of the Bandit and I do follow his channel. I have seen no evidence of him asking for or taking donations.

To be honest, I think he is one of the more trustworthy channels out there.
He does take the responsible gambling thing very seriously. He will mention Gamban (which he has on his own site), and frequently preaches
to his viewers "only spend what you can afford" during his vids. He also has Gamstop and Gamcare on his Gamban page.

He also doesn't try to hide or gloss over the bad side of gambling. Many of his vids end in bustouts, sometimes more than one in the same video.
He also doesn't take bonuses (plenty of YT channels out there are owned by players/streamers who take bonuses that the regular punter like you and I would NEVER get offered in our lifetime).

I honestly find it a disgrace that he gets banned while people like NickSlots, CasinoDaddy, CasinoTest24 and Roshtein do not. Their vids are just pure clickbait.

He may be one of the good guys, I don't watch streamers so can't confirm or deny. I will say that yanking his channel away is seemingly under false pretences, with all the reasons cited.

I think YouTube will just use these loose interpretations to purge gambling content from their platform, so it doesn't matter how it's achieved, the end result is the same. We don't even know if they're being 'reported' anyway, these channels have survived for years and now everyone is up in arms about it, yeah right

Much like YT weeding out anything that doesn't fit into their narrative by labelling it 'extremist' or 'far right' material, that's been going on for a while now. 1984 is here everyone, enjoy!

So again it is less about protecting children from gambling it seems. I'd imagine YT will be a husk of a platform before long, it's not like content providers can't find other sites to monetize on

 

[dunover]

He may be one of the good guys, I don't watch streamers so can't confirm or deny. I will say that yanking his channel away is seemingly under false pretences, with all the reasons cited.

I think YouTube will just use these loose interpretations to purge gambling content from their platform, so it doesn't matter how it's achieved, the end result is the same. We don't even know if they're being 'reported' anyway, these channels have survived for years and now everyone is up in arms about, yeah right

Much like YT weeding out anything that doesn't fit into their narrative by labelling it 'extremist' or 'far right' material, that's been going on for a while now. 1984 is here everyone, enjoy!

So again it is less about protecting children from gambling it seems. I'd imagine YT will be a husk of a platform before long, it's not like content providers can't find other sites to monetize on

Great idea! I'm ordering my uniform as we speak, for my new slots channels "Goebbels' Gambles". Horst Wessel music in the background and the cat with a small rune on its collar. Yes.

 

[ed skull murphy]

Great idea! I'm ordering my uniform as we speak, for my new slots channels "Goebbels' Gambles". Horst Wessel music in the background and the cat with a small rune on its collar. Yes.

You'd do better if you chose Mao Tse Tung.

 

[goatwack]

Great idea! I'm ordering my uniform as we speak, for my new slots channels "Goebbels' Gambles". Horst Wessel music in the background and the cat with a small rune on its collar. Yes.

Don't forget to add some of that Herr Flick magic

 

[interlog]

It certainly is, in my opinion, a group of people that are targeting all affiliate produced content on Youtube. A bunch of people that did their tits in gambling and are seeking blame other than on the person that looks at them in the mirror. Another reason is that there is an element of jealousy in play. They see streamers / video producers gambling a lot, something that they wish they could do themselves but are not able to do. They see people making a living out of a hobby (gambling) and wish it was them.

I stopped streaming and producing videos for a while now, partially because I was getting fed up with the nasty messages and violent threats.

It was only a matter of time before the Bandit was going to be targeted. He is a popular video producer but that isn't the point. Popularity doesn't come into it as far as these people are concerned. They want all affiliation banned on Youtube.

 

[Borgie]

It certainly is, in my opinion, a group of people that are targeting all affiliate produced content on Youtube. A bunch of people that did their tits in gambling and are seeking blame other than on the person that looks at them in the mirror. Another reason is that there is an element of jealousy in play. They see streamers / video producers gambling a lot, something that they wish they could do themselves but are not able to do.

I stopped streaming and producing videos for a while now, partially because I was getting fed up with the nasty messages and violent threats.

It was only a matter of time before the Bandit was going to be targeted. He is a popular video producer but that isn't the point. Popularity doesn't come into it as far as these people are concerned. They want all affiliation banned on Youtube.

What could they report on though that gets them banned? Surely they can't just report that they are an affiliate and that gets them banned?

 

[eizei]

What could they report on though that gets them banned? Surely they can't just report that they are an affiliate and that gets them banned?

Just from watching youtube content from non-gambling creators it seems apparent that you can get banned at least temporarily on youtube for various unreasonable things such as getting spam reported for no real valid reason. Of course I have no idea if that's what's happening here but I think it's plausible. Pretty much all youtube comment sections on any slot related videos are incredibly toxic and filled with people who simply can't fathom how slots, casinos or affiliates work and gleefully spout their incorrect information and conspiracy theories as facts. These same people doing anything they can to hurt the slot channels wouldn't surprise me one bit.

 

[goatwack]

I think YT's policy right now is shoot first, ask questions later

I can't imagine there's suddenly more objection to gambling content than before, they're simply purging anything related to it.

Seems that anyone can report anything at the drop of a hat, rack up enough complaints and au revoir. Not to mention their 'Appeal' system is likely quite slow I'd imagine.....

I also think a lot is done out of spite as mentioned, YT won't have the time or inclination to verify every grievance, as long as the end result is the same

 

[sufferinsilence]

Content creators will just move on to different platforms. Youtube ultimately shoots in their own foot that way.

 

[ed skull murphy]

Content creators will just move on to different platforms. Youtube ultimately shoots in their own foot that way.

I'm not so sure, I think YT must feel pretty confident of their position, and they are really just a front for the 'global state', with unlimited cash behind them.

But then again so are the BBC and CNN etc, and people are turning away from them in droves, or at least I hope they are.

 

[goatwack]

I'm not so sure, I think YT must feel pretty confident of their position, and they are really just a front for the 'global state', with unlimited cash behind them.

But then again so are the BBC and CNN etc, and people are turning away from them in droves, or at least I hope they are.

The BBC don't like to let go, just the other day for some ungodly reason we'd fallen behind with the TV License (strange, given it's by DD) by £2.50, and out come the threatening letters, bolded red font and everything

Sorry about that. Can't be missing crucial highlights like the Eastenders Omnibus now, can we?

 

[ed skull murphy]

The BBC don't like to let go, just the other day for some ungodly reason we'd fallen behind with the TV License (strange, given it's by DD) by £2.50, and out come the threatening letters, bolded red font and everything

Sorry about that. Can't be missing crucial highlights like the Eastenders Omnibus now, can we?

I got a threatening letter from them, so I phoned up to tell them that I haven't watched television in many years, and the woman threatened me down the phone, about what would happen if they caught me watching it.

I just remained silent and gritted my teeth because I couldn't be arsed, but it made me angry. No other state agency would dare talk to people like that.

If i'd been in a more playful mood I might have teased her about the detector vans with the fake radar scanner on the roof, do you remember them 'scary' adverts?

I've found one: