WTF is this and why in the world would they think I would be interested?

[chuchu59]

Note the XXXXX's directly under the heading of the first email. That's was my user name for the original Playin4Keeps.

AND the 1st email I got said that they had just merged information and that P4K was still in business? Next one says that this new forum is in now way connected to P4K or it's contests.

I am sorry but you can spray perfume on a pig and it's still a pig.

Damn it Annie. You are belittling the lovely pigs who I believe have more credibility than Jumpstars

 

[anniemac]

Dang it, Chu. I thought I edited that out before anyone saw it. Didn't want to be mean about pigs.

 

[Casinomeister]

Admin Warning and Comments

I know some of you are riled about this, but please do not use abusive language in anger. Thank you.

Also, there are to be no forum wars in this forum. These discussions always spiral down to a flame war - that's not what this forum is about.

But on the other hand - this has caught my eye:

From time to time P4K Gaming networks with other sites and we may share your E-mail address and User name from P4K Gaming data base to these sites if:

1.) We think members will benefit in receiving great promotions, Contests or Give Away's.

If you do not want your info shared please send an e-mail to support@p4ks.com on the day you register so we can attach a note to your account

That is such BS - I should start a new category in the rogue pit for "Ethically Challenged Portals". So when you sign up you are automatically opted in to a spam list - and give the right for p4k so sell your email address and user name? WTF?

 

[P4K Gaming]

No

No Brian that is not what it means, What it means is YES we will network with other sites to bringing the players more of an option. Members have that right to opt out just as a player is able to opt out of taking a bonus.

If we had of said, "P4K Gaming has the right to sell your email" then i would understand. Casinos network amongst each other, They share information. I have had my own details shared a number of times. Why can't forums.

The only thing that is shared between myself and Jamies site are username so they can login and email address. We do not hold any other information about our members by choice.

So far apart from Annie mac most of our members have visited Jamie from what he has said and have not complained.

If members are worried about this and don't want it done, I invite them to contact us to let us know and we will review in what we share.

If it comes to a SPAMMER, Then we have every right to share and network with others to prevent it happening.

Plain and simple, If you do not like our terms you do not have to sign up that is all I am saying. In respects to providing there details to Jamie, Alot of members know him and trust him. It's not like I made money off this or send the details to a known spammer, Then i would be liveried. believe it or not, I respect all our members.

In response to Annie mac claiming we transferred the database from YUKU Playin4keeps. I suggest you send a friendly e-mail to the OWNERS of YUKU and ask if this can be done, Because i am 300% sure you will be told board owners do not get access to YUKU database emails.

Here is there direct E-mail address if anyone would like to confirm this, We are not and never have claimed we are following the site on for Christine. We have always been upfront and honest about what we are doing at P4K Gaming and informed the members. here is the link to ask away at YUKU

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Annie Mac
Why dont you post your user name from our site and I will publicly post the date log when you joined. Its that simple!!! I will also delete your account from our mailing list as you clearly do not want to receive emails from us, I will also ASK Jamie to do the same.

Unless you know what you are talking about please refrain from making stupid allegations.

One more thing Annie Mac, If you bothered to notice Dolphsldy is once again working with us.

I apologize to brain for starting name calling and getting angry, But it is hard from my point of view trying to explain things as i am not that well educated like some of you.

I don' think there is much more reason to continue this original topic as we have had no complaints other than the ones in this thread about it.

But please leave Jamie out of this, He is 23 probably alot smarter than me, He does not deserve to be set upon from any of you that has issues with me.

 

[Casinomeister]

It's BrYan - not brain or brian.

No Brian that is not what it means, What it means is YES we will network with other sites to bringing the players more of an option. Members have that right to opt out just as a player is able to opt out of taking a bonus.

If we had of said, "P4K Gaming has the right to sell your email" then i would understand. Casinos network amongst each other, They share information. I have had my own details shared a number of times. Why can't forums...

Why can't forums? Two wrongs don't make a right, that's why.

When people sign up at your - or any forum - they should be assured that their private info is to remain private. Giving third party access (what you refer to as "networking") is wrong - no matter if it's your "agreement" policy or not. There is a difference between sending your members promos etc., from your mail server and giving the information out to others. This is covered in Business Ethics 101 - perhaps you need a brush up course?

 

[P4K Gaming]

I agree with you 99% apart from,

If this be the case not to display or share, What gives any site the right to share a spammers details? As you said 2 wrongs don't make a right.

Sharing a spammers info although I know we all hate them is wrong, Anyone could say oh "This person is a spammer and share"

I am not causing an argument, It is just the way i look at things from my end.

Because you have raised a valid point,

I will be removing those terms once i figure out how. I was not the one who put it in there and need to figure with the software i am using on how to do this.

I am still learning how to do things within this software we are using.

Sorry about the third post,

Annie Mac i think i have tracked down your account and if it is yours, You joined P4K Gaming on our NEW site on June 10th 2008

Would you be willing to provide your username so we can remove you and clear this little issue up? The username we have on file for your I.P the username starts with "D" and Ends in "T" is this you??

Sorry, because you have made a claim against us, I would like it cleared up if this is possible. I only think that is fair considering. Once we confirm your account it will be removed and no further e-mails will be sent to your email.

 

[AussieDave]

At the P4K site, Wayne describes Jaime as his "partner", and not business partner. I'm assuming he means "significant other". However, I would not be surprised if Jaime is in fact ALSO Wayne's business partner.

Yes Jamie is Wayne's boyfriend.

Instead of adding another post to this thread.

I wanted to add this just so everyone is 100% in the loop.

On the 28'th of June 2009 Jaxon from Jet Set Marketing posted to the webmaster forum here on CM this:
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/scam-artists-www-p4ks-com.31968/ About being scammed by P4K Gaming.

On the 2'nd July 2009 P4K Gaming attempts to discredit me over at the GPWA with this thread:

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An obvious reaction from my posts to the "scam-artists-www-p4ks-com" thread here.

Now SEVEN DAYS later we're confronted with another of Wayne's dubious business actions.

I'm sure if anyone else had been busted this many times in such a short period of time, they'd still be running for the hills in shame.

But not Wayne because it's just business as usual for him. And has been like this ever since he entered the industry in 2001.


Cheers
T

 

[P4K Gaming]

What Ever

Yes Jamie is Wayne's boyfriend.

Instead of adding another post to this thread.

I wanted to add this just so everyone is 100% in the loop.

On the 28'th of June 2009 Jaxon from Jet Set Marketing posted to the webmaster forum here on CM this:
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/scam-artists-www-p4ks-com.31968/ About being scammed by P4K Gaming.

On the 2'nd July 2009 P4K Gaming attempts to discredit me over at the GPWA with this thread:

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An obvious reaction from my posts to the "scam-artists-www-p4ks-com" thread here.

Now SEVEN DAYS later we're confronted with another of Wayne's dubious business actions.

I'm sure if anyone else had been busted this many times in such a short period of time, they'd still be running for the hills in shame.

But not Wayne because it's just business as usual for him. And has been like this ever since he entered the industry in 2001.


Cheers
T

Yea what ever Trezz or should i say Doug, What ever tickles your fancy!!!

oh and your comment, That most will run from the hills, Yes you are right if it was as bad as you are all saying, Jet Set Marketing are happy enough to work out a deal. Regardless of your opinions. Did you mention we are still going to promote there casinos too. No one is denying that was a business deal that turned sour.

You seem to try and make out that I have run off, Because I haven't. And your right we will continue business as usual. Promoting good casinos and making our members happy.

Like Bryan has asked, he does not want Forum bashing and I am going to be one who respects that, Because if it happened on my site that member would no longer be there. Trezz what you are doing is merely just shit stirring, People are capable of looking up threads. If you think we are so bad as you say, WHY is it casino just tell me to ignore people like you. And these comments are from very reputable casinos.

 

[AussieDave]

Oh I should have added...

GENERAL SURGEONS WARNING

Newsflash

It's come to our attention that a number of people have come into indirect contact with a dubious, dodgy, scamming casino gaming con artist. If you are one of these people we strong advice that you visit your General Practitioner and immediately commence a course of antibiotics.


Cheers
T

 

[P4K Gaming]

lol

CLAP CLAP

So is Annie Mac going to do what i have requested? I personally think its only fair since she is the one that started this thread.??

 

[Casinomeister]

Admin Warning

Last warning folks - no more berating. Either leave the personal jabs out or have the forum locked.

Your choice.

 

[swampwitch]

Wayne/Jumpstar/P4K Gaming has issued an apology to his members for sharing the data base. Kind of late, but at least he did it. He could have dug in and kept up the pretense that sharing his members' info was a good thing.

 

[AussieDave]

oh and your comment, That most will run from the hills, Yes you are right if it was as bad as you are all saying

Sheesh I'd surmise anyone would consider the way you've chosen to conducted your online businesses since 2001 as being BAD.

You have a sartorial track record for scamming people. That's not opinion...That's a FACT.

Hell don't take my word for it though...in your opinion I'm just a bias hard a## with an axe to grind

I'm sure some of these well respected and trusted folk can enlighten us on your past also:

GreedyGirl
Kwblue (affiliate guard dog)
Bonustreak (affiliate guard dog)

That's all I've got to say on this topic and thread.

Edit: we've ascertained that Jumpstarss and P4K Gaming are one in the same. But both accounts have posted to this thread



Cheers
T

 

[P4K Gaming]

Interesting

I am over this. I will wait to hear from Annie Mac, As she is the one that started this thread if she is not willing to post her user name or email and cannot PM me,

Then there is my proof, Why would someone want to hide the fact after they stated something.?

I am prepared to post a physical screen shot if allowed to prove that She signed up at our NEW site. So Annie Mac please provide the email address in which you received the emails in your thread please.

It is only fair we clear this up since you have accused us of Taken a database from the Old Yuku site.

Not that hard to ascertain i am the same person and I am not hiding the fact. Man o man this is not an attack on your personally, but some people really need to get into the real world.!!!

The reason i have to use my P4K Gaming one, Is due to my Jumpstar account being disabled, Or i would have used Jumpstar, Either one is me which most would have gathered......lol

 

[Casinomeister]

Just another admin note:

(I really ought to be doing other things besides this)

Jumpstar has been merged into P4K Gaming since it's the same guy.

Please note forum rule 1.9

1.9 - Do not register an account fraudulently. Fraudulent accounts are defined as accounts created specifically to flame others (hiding behind a mask of anonymity), or accounts opened primarily to spam the board or to act as shills. Do not register more than one account in the forum. Additional accounts will be deemed as bogus, and you may find yourself out on the sidewalk lying on your back staring at the stars.

If you find yourself wanting a fresh start because your account has been pounded back into the stone ages via negative reps, please ask before opening a new one. Thanks!

BTW - your jumpstar account was in the "less than Zero" user group. Less than zero is not the "fun side" of Casinomeisterland if you know what I mean:
Old URL

 

[jas2587]

Funny I have seen you on several boards an you are 1 of the most foul mouthed indaviduals I have ever seen

you like to use this line as an excuse to get outta a bind people dont believe it tho ya know you need a new one

"""""I apologize to brain for starting name calling and getting angry, But it is hard from my point of view trying to explain things as i am not that well educated like some of you"""""""""

As far as Annie is concered we Believe her lighten up when she gets ready to post her info she might an she might not cause it probably is a TRUST issue with YOU

are you saying they locked the "Jumpstar" account hmmm posing as a person named Jamie when in fact you are Wayno

so if that is the case then does that make "YOU" the owner of the new site that has all ""P4K Gaming one""" user names an emails

just passing them around hmmmm

Cindy

 

[P4K Gaming]

What

Funny I have seen you on several boards an you are 1 of the most foul mouthed indaviduals I have ever seen

you like to use this line as an excuse to get outta a bind people dont believe it tho ya know you need a new one

"""""I apologize to brain for starting name calling and getting angry, But it is hard from my point of view trying to explain things as i am not that well educated like some of you"""""""""

As far as Annie is concered we Believe her lighten up when she gets ready to post her info she might an she might not cause it probably is a TRUST issue with YOU

are you saying they locked the "Jumpstar" account hmmm posing as a person named Jamie when in fact you are Wayno

so if that is the case then does that make "YOU" the owner of the new site that has all ""P4K Gaming one""" user names an emails

just passing them around hmmmm

Cindy

What on earth are you on about, Your post didn't make sense,

Jumpstar is me and my account so is P4K Gaming. Jamie doesn't even a member on this site and i dont blame him if he never becomes one.

Sorry Bryan, Now that I understand your terms they will be followed

If she wants her email account removed and user name then she would have to provide that to us. There is no other way to get rid of that account from my site or Jamies.

I think if you are going to accuse someone of something, you should provide stuff to prove that Accusation. Just because you may be a mod or respected person doesn't make them always right. I would like to clarify the date she signed up at our site, Because i know for a fact she did. And her email that it came to so i can remove it, Or she will be getting more emails. Going by our hosting company's terms, She must provide these details so we can remove or any complaints will be invalid.

I would like her to also contact Yuku since she made this accusation so she can see for herself we cannot transfer the members database from YUKU.

 

[anniemac]

OK, Wayne. I will finish what I started. I joined the old original Playin4Keeps when you and DolphsLady were running it. Then you changed it to P4K and my info went with you. Then Gamblers Paradise but I never bothered with that. I don't know how many years ago that was but if Bryan will check my start date here, it was before that.

Annie Mac i think i have tracked down your account and if it is yours, You joined P4K Gaming on our NEW site on June 10th 2008

Would you be willing to provide your username so we can remove you and clear this little issue up? The username we have on file for your I.P the username starts with "D" and Ends in "T" is this you??

I have never had any other user name than what I originally signed up with and if you will read the email I received from GambleStop you will see that it doesn't 'start with a D and end with a T'.

rosyred1029,

We are just writing to let you all know you have now been merged over to Jamies site
that he is creating. Please use your P4K Login details.

Jamie is arranging alot of new things for everyone and already has the arcade up.

Please support Jamie as this is his first attempt at running a forum.

P4K is still open for business as normal, but now you have the benefit of both sites.
We are not merging simply giving the members more of an option to play at.

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This came to my email that does not include this particular name so my old user name, password and email address was given to the Gamblestop mod.

As for not answering your posts immediately, I was asleep. Anything else you want me to answer?

 

[anniemac]

Just to further clarify, besides the Meister, there are a few members here who know my real name, Robwin for one, and they can verify that my name does not 'start with a D and end with a T' either.

And Wayne, just read your post as Sucks and didn't appreciate being called a liar over there either. Bad form.

 

[P4K Gaming]

Screen Shot

Here is a screen shot from your account at P4K Gaming and the date you joined. Based on the user name above.

I have now delete your account and asked Jamie to do the same. I have blocked out your I.P Address and start of your E-mail to protect your privacy.

ALSO i advise anyone to contact YUKU to confirm that a person is un-able to copy a database from there software.

I have found a number of accounts under your I.P Address, I have deleted the one you mentioned here, But if you have signed up under another name then it is out of my control to what email you receive.


Annie Mac
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[jas2587]

Wayne/Jumpstar/P4K Gaming has issued an apology to his members for sharing the data base. Kind of late, but at least he did it. He could have dug in and kept up the pretense that sharing his members' info was a good thing.

Swampy even tho IT issued a apology doesnt mean he will quit sharing I hardly doubt he will at all bet he is selling that list like hotcakes

Cindy

 

[anniemac]

I certainly appreciate your removal of my information from your websites. That should put an end to any more interaction between the two of us.

If the personal information that you posted makes you feel vindicated, then so be it. I am done with you and all your forums. You took the member list with you when you changed sites and you know it. So join dates have no meaning but if it makes you feel better then knock yourself out.

 

[bb28]

Gotta put my 2 cents in. I don't think anyone with half a brain would believe that the two websites are completely separate and anyone with any info at all of the dirty dealings throughout the years will stay far, far away. Too bad that there are always a new batch of clueless newbies somewhere out there.

 

[anniemac]

I thought I was through but I owe Wayne a sort of apology. I did a little digging, old computers are great. I found my old info from the original Playing4Keeps site and the email from Wayne when they moved. Now, take it for what it's worth.

 

[P4K Gaming]

I thought I was through but I owe Wayne a sort of apology. I did a little digging, old computers are great. I found my old info from the original Playing4Keeps site and the email from Wayne when they moved. Now, take it for what it's worth.

Thank you Annie Mac,